Some Midweek Cup Notes

by Mark on December 4

Most of us have a soft spot for the Carling Cup after it soaked up Ronaldo’s suspension – sadly, it normally generates little interest from fantasy managers. It was Quarter-Final week and yet again the Premiership bosses involved shuffled their packs. Meanwhile, City played out a sleepy, meaningless UEFA Cup Group game at Eastlands on Wednesday.

Was there anything worth taking from all the midweek action then? Maybe. The four-goal nudge from Tevez to Ferguson could present us with a new view on United’s selection policy up front. Meanwhile, Darren Bent’s winner at Watford reminded us that there was a reason behind November’s transfer bandwagon after all. Here’s the notes…

Starting on Tuesday night and there was little to be gleaned from Wenger’s lineup which saw them defeated at Burnley. None of his eleven that night are likely to get shirts against Wigan at the weekend. Indeed, the fact that Bendtner started up front at least offers reassurance that neither Van Persie or Adebayor will be rested at the weekend.

Pulis rested a couple in Stokes surprising home defeat to Derby. Abdoulaye and Amdy Faye both dropped to the bench with Sonko and Cresswell coming in. Olofinjana also returned for Soares in midfield while Simonsen got a start in goal. Little of note there then.

Moving on to Wednesday night, and Ferguson made ten changes for the Carling tie with Blackburn – the most significant being the return of Neville to the defence and a start for Tevez up front. Anderson and Giggs also came into the midfield.

It seems unlikely that too many of this side will take the field against Sunderland this weekend. Rafael could keep the right back role, while Tevez will surely push for a start having manufactured the win with a superb display and four of United’s five goals. Ferguson has acknowledged that Tevez’s form has clearly made his job more difficult and with managerless and beleaguered Sunderland at Old Trafford at the weekend, Tevez looks set for another start.

Rooney would seem favourite to step down, although in many ways, Berbatov deserves to be player dropped given his recent contributions, which have been full of nice touch flurries but little else. One goal, no assists and no FPL bonus in the last four tells the tale in fantasy terms. Ferguson’s decision with his lineup against Sunderland could be a turning point then when it comes to Berbatov’s status in the United lineup. To this point, he has appeared untouchable. One to watch.

Paul Ince put out a strong side at Old Trafford but was hampered by Andrews being cup-tied and Simpson ineligible against United as part of his loan agreement. That meant that Emerton moved to right back, with Ooijer shifting to central defence. Olsson returned from suspension to take the left back spot, which saw Warnock move into his midfield role and actually played just behind Santa Cruz with Derbyshire deployed wide right. Another interesting positional development in Warnock’s season.

McCarthy
was dropped to the bench but did come on in the second half to replace Emerton. His two goals were little more than consolation on the night but should see him restored to the starting lineup at the weekend against Liverpool.

Spurs progressed to the semis with a workmanlike display at Watford. Redknapp welcomed back Jenas to his midfield after he recovered from a toe injury. Lennon shifted to the right to allow Bentley to be rested to the bench – that meant that O’Hara came into the left midfield role. Huddlestone dropped to the bench, while King got to rest his knee with Dawson coming in alongside Woodgate. Campbell was given another run-out with Pavlyuchenko up front but disappointed and was replaced by Bent just after the hour mark.

A couple of things to note from this one. Lennon sparkled in phases – he continues to show the kind of form that suggests some decent fantasy returns. He could yet provide a worthy alternative to Bentley who is still struggling to contribute – he makes a decent differential too. The other point to note is that Pavlyuchenko took the Tottenham penalty for their equaliser – that could cast doubt over whether Bent would take spot-kicks when partnering the Russian in attack.

Regardless, Bent’s winning goal last night clearly demonstrated that he still has the confidence in him to bring in the points. That would have pleased the many who invested in him several weeks ago off the back of his European hat-trick and his double at Eastlands. Campbell’s ineffectual appearance in last night’s game surely means that the Pavlyuchenko/Bent partnership is under little threat right now, unless Harry switches formation with the return of Modric.

Moving into Europe and Wednesday’s UEFA Cup match at Eastlands was a stroll for both sides with City and PSG already through to the knockout rounds. City’s lineup against PSG saw Robinho, Wright-Phillips and Richards all miss out with knocks. All three will now be doubts for City’s trip to Fulham so we’ll have to monitor for further news on them going into the weekend. Right now however, I would say that their absence was a mere precaution on Hughes’ part. Jo’s recall up front could threaten Benjani’s start at the Cottage, although he looked woefully short of confidence again and was eventually replaced just after the hour mark.

Despite the training match feel evident in this game, City still managed to pick up another injury. Elano is set to be out for at least a couple of weeks after picking up a groin injury in last night’s game. That’s not too significant for us fantasy managers – he’s failed to feature on the radar in recent weeks with Hughes seemingly seeing him as a luxury player, to be rotated in and out of the side.

That’s about it for Tuesday and Wednesday’s action. I’ll try and bring you a round-up of Thursday’s UEFA Cup ties at some point – depending if I can keep the internet connection in my German hotel up and running.

{ 92 comments }

Ollie December 4 at 7:20 pm

What free transfer this week?

Reina, Schwarzer
Bosingwa, Carragher, Belhadj, Figueroa, Young
Lampard, Geovanni, Kuyt, Arteta, Delap
Robinho, Defoe, Agbonlahor

mitchos December 4 at 7:28 pm

Figueroa out maybe? Dont fancy him against Arsenal. Swap him for paintsil for one week, i fancy fulham for a cleany. Otherwise doesn’t look to shabby to me, sometimes tinkering is unnecessary…

Jeremy December 4 at 7:30 pm

You don’t have Ronaldo(c)…

Akers December 4 at 8:23 pm

I’d spend 4 points and get Ronaldo in.

Fran December 4 at 8:31 pm

Definitely agree Akers on getting Ronaldo in as captain as Sunderland should be conceding lots without a manager!

a bloke December 4 at 9:34 pm

yep, get ronaldo. Do one of; Marney in for Arteta, C.Cole for Robinho, Meite for Carragher

Akers December 4 at 9:38 pm

I’d personally dowgrade Agbonlahor. Don’t know exactly what you’d have to spend though.

Vermeer December 4 at 10:32 pm

Get in Archie, cheaper than Ronaldo but with better hair.

JWF December 4 at 7:20 pm

Think Harry will start Bent this weekend so hopefully he’ll find a bit of form. Having a tough time getting my front line settled so need Bent to cement his place.

Steve December 4 at 8:20 pm

A bloke at work asked me who i was having as captain at the weekend. I told him it would be Ronnie. “Duh, good one, he’s suspended for this weekend”. “oh yeah i replied”. Oh how i laughed as he walked away. I hope loads of people make this mistake. I can forsee him getting a hatful of points against a poor Sunderland team who are now without a manager.

Fran December 4 at 8:27 pm

Steve, your work mate was just pulling your leg so you don’t captain him. Anyway, the big news would be if the snow does not stop falling then how many games will be cancelled? Perhaps you can keep us informed Mark if this will be the case?

Marknlard December 4 at 11:16 pm

Mark has to be a meteorologist now, as well?

I might just send him my password and get him to pick my team…

the doctor December 4 at 8:22 pm

If Tevez starts this weekend I really don’t see how it can be at the cost of Rooney, he scored last time out and played really well overall, and is a known “spurter” when it comes to goalscoring. There is the height issue I suppose, I wonder is that Mark’s main thinking ? Just trying to convince myself really, have Rooney and was considering giving him the armband but may have to play it safe with Ronaldo…

Fran December 4 at 8:29 pm

Maybe Ronaldo or Berbatov could be rested? At least Fergie might cough up the 30M plus for Tevez now!

jeremybeadlesclaw December 4 at 8:30 pm

Same, Same at my work Steve. Great isn’t it. The more people who fall foul on this Ronaldo glitch the better.

Now back to more pressing issues – namely Zaki. Any news from his personal assistant?

Fran December 4 at 8:32 pm

I heard he should be playing this weekend from website comments here. Enjoy!

Granville December 4 at 10:31 pm

According to his website, Zaki’s in the squad to face Arsenal.

CK December 4 at 10:38 pm

Nice one Gran! Glad to hear Zaki is back

Feanor December 4 at 8:37 pm

I have to pick one out of Marney, Miller, Garrido and Delap to be my 11th starter. Marney and Miller are both at home to teams that aren’t great defensively, so I’m thinking it has to be one of them.

a bloke December 4 at 9:37 pm

marney, miller or delap. not a lot of difference there. never another defender.

the doctor December 4 at 8:38 pm

I’d go for Garrido personally, Fulham really lack a cutting edge, and he is on free kicks.

Croublade December 5 at 1:29 am

They may not be brilliant now, but they look real steady. City, on the other hand, look real fragile at the back, not to forget they’re poor on the road.

Cantona December 4 at 8:49 pm

Rooney will definately not be dropped, no way

He is a confidence player and that tap in against City IMHO will be the start of a hot spell for him, points aplenty

Hope Berbatov gets dropped, he needs to get in the box more often and stop droppin off in midfield (fair enough he creates chances but he was bought to score goals)

Akers December 4 at 8:56 pm

As it’s a home game against sunderland, wouldn’t it be great if SAF experimented with all 4 of them?

——–VDS——–
Raf–Rio–Vidic–Evra
–Carrick–Fletcher–
Rooney–Tevez–Rooney
——Berbatov——

the doctor December 4 at 9:06 pm

Personally I’d MUCH rather see Rooney and Tevez alternate as cover on the left flank than have that hairbrianed Nani running up and down it. Sadly I think we’ll only see the above formation if United are behind in a must win game or in the CL knockout phase.

Jono December 4 at 9:06 pm

What and not play the worlds #1 I seriously doubt it.

Akers December 4 at 9:09 pm

lol, I meant Rooney and Ronaldo, not 2 Rooney’s.

Jono December 4 at 9:14 pm

*shudders at the thought of two Rooneys on the same pitch* :)

Granville December 4 at 10:14 pm

Anyone remember this United team

1 Cantona
2 Cantona
3 Cantona
4 Cantona
5 Cantona
6 Cantona
7 Cantona
8 Cantona
9 Cantona
10 Cantona
11 Cantona

Chrissyboy December 4 at 10:19 pm

You forgot “12 Cantona” There are 12 Cantonas of Christmas!!

Timbo December 4 at 11:05 pm

Almost as good as:

1 Georgie Best
2 Georgie Best
3 Georgie Best
4 Georgie Best
5 Georgie Best
6 Georgie Best
7 Georgie Best
8 Georgie Best
9 Georgie Best
10 Georgie Best
11 Georgie Best

Fran December 4 at 11:47 pm

No Way!!! 11 George Bests, Ronaldos and Cantonas combine players is far better! One player fits that bill:
http://tabacula.blogspot.com/

Will anyone else score 60 goals a season again!?

MTC December 5 at 10:09 am

The two Rooneys. That would be a funny show to watch. Watching them trying to knock each other out and spitting their dummies at each other would bring the crowds rolling in from as far as Australia.

johannl December 4 at 9:07 pm

i think sit alex will play Team should be…

GK: VDS

RB: Rafael
CB: Ferdinand
CB: Vidic
LB: Evra

RM: Ronaldo
CM: Carrick
CM: Fletcher
LM: Park

CF: Rooney
CF: Berbatov

SUBS: PIG, Evans, Scholes, Giggs, Anderson, Nani, Tevez

Routine win, 4-0 Rooney, Ronaldo x2, Berbatov

Cantona December 4 at 9:35 pm

Hope he plays the formation akers suggested above, best on paper but clearly Sir alex knows better and that it won’t work, still……

——–VDS———-
–Raf-Rio-Vidic-Evra-
-Carrick–Fletcher–
Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez
—–Berbatov——-

Rooney in the hole where he’s best with tevez and Ronaldo supporting Berbatov left and right. Think Berba would get dizzy with the service!

Fran December 4 at 9:08 pm

What’s this tactically switch Akers – going back to the ‘busby babes’ pattern of the 1950’s? However you might have a point as Sunderland will not be too hard to push aside at Old Trafford. Would be great to see! What’s your view BTW, should Refael overtake Wes Brown and G Neville? Should we consider buying Rafael?

johannl December 4 at 9:12 pm

maybe just for short term while brown and neville is yes ,

Akers December 4 at 9:14 pm

Raf is classed as a MF, so no.

Jono December 4 at 9:17 pm

Yeah I was onto Rafael at RB a few games back but as an MF in fpl really not worth the meager return, Akers how likely is Anderson to be at risk of rotation, didn’t he get a couple assists the other night?

Akers December 4 at 9:26 pm

He was awesome last night. He is a huge rotation risk with Fletcher (and Scholes will get on the field for 20-30 mins a game for a while). Carrick and Park are safer bets.

the doctor December 4 at 9:08 pm

Cheers Cantona, I hope you’re right ! Do you like that Christmas song they sing about you at Old Trafford ? Very complex lyrics…

johannl December 4 at 9:15 pm

and just to think that they say that FABIO is the better one of the 2 twins ,

Croublade December 5 at 1:36 am

Johan, it’s possible that Fabio is the better of the two twins, but there’s many possibilities as to why he’s not playing. Perhaps he’s left-sided, and Evra > Neville / Brown, or Fabio’s “better” going forward but Rafael’s defensive strengths are more required, or maybe SAF just likes to rotate that RB spot to annoy fantasy managers.

Cantona December 4 at 9:31 pm

Im right, I know Im right

5 CANTONA’S!
4 CANTONA’S!
3 CANTONA’S
2 CANTONA’S
and an Eric Cantona!

smuggs December 4 at 8:51 pm

i have subbed rooney out for adebayor i do have ronaldo but i have made ade captain only have 682 points and are 117 behind leader need to gain points plus rooney has 4 yellows and game week 18 is a bitch now only have figs and ronnie for 18 to miss

the doctor December 4 at 9:04 pm

Yeah I will be taking Rooney out for the missed gameweek, that isn’t a problem. Having 14.6m Ronaldo on the bench for the missing GW is another matter altogether !

Billy Manchester December 4 at 9:08 pm

Ade has gotta be due a big haul, and this weekend is as good a time as any.

the doctor December 4 at 9:14 pm

I agree completely that Arsenal are due to rout someone, as I can’t afford Ade, I’m going to bring in Fabs for Kuyt in my midfield. And in the long run, Van Persie, but that’ll take a few weeks of tinkering.

Billy Manchester December 4 at 10:57 pm

If you’re looking into the beginning of next year you might want to consider Eduardo. He’ll be back some time in January, and will be dirt cheap and possibly worth a punt.

smuggs December 4 at 8:52 pm

my mini league leader that is,
has anyone gone with schwarzer over reina or is that daft

johannl December 4 at 9:01 pm

Hello

Myhill
Arbeloa Bosingwa Paintsil
Ronaldo A Young Marney Ireland Lampard
Agbonlahor Robinho

SUBS
Sidibe Schwarzer Dawson Meite

who do i play and who do i put on the bench

jeremybeadlesclaw December 4 at 9:03 pm

Definately get Schwarzer between the sticks for starters, Fulham are strong defensively at home.

johannl December 4 at 9:08 pm

thanks i will do so , but i have this feel that fullham will get a beating this weekend

Pierre Luigi Collina December 4 at 9:11 pm

Considering bringing in BERBA after GW18 for the long-haul because of good fixtures,2 double gameweeks and the fact that he scored 65% of his goals for spurs after chrimbo!
After seeing TEVEZ score four and not knowing what the situation will b regarding berba in 3 weeks,do people think he will start regualary and do well? Comments are much appreciated,its important!

Cantona December 4 at 9:38 pm

doesn’t look like he will start regularly and I dread the Jan transfer window as I can see him going if he doesn’t get many starts before then

should play against Sunderland though

johannl December 4 at 9:14 pm

tevez i think as a manutd fan will be used as a impact play , a replacement for ole

JC December 4 at 9:23 pm

Just wonderin does anyone have news on Gary O Neil for GW 16 cos he was injured for the last one…

Cantona December 4 at 9:40 pm

Notice Agbonlahor got subbed in the villa game, guessin it was a precaution for this weekend

Akers December 4 at 9:42 pm

No, he came ON as a sub. Barry and Laursen were both benched, so nothing to read into there.

Cantona December 4 at 9:52 pm

Yeah misread the live text thing cheers for clearing my mistake up haha

Fresh legs for the weekend, Laursen for captain hahaha jus kiddin

Ronaldo without a doubt

TJMoray December 4 at 10:00 pm

Barry played, no?

Akers December 4 at 10:04 pm

Aston Villa: Guzan, Gardner, Knight, Cuellar, Luke Young, Reo-Coker, Salifou, Osbourne, Ashley Young, Delfouneso, Harewood. Subs: Friedel, Laursen, Barry, Milner, Agbonlahor, Petrov, Clarke.

TJMoray December 4 at 10:10 pm

Only caught the second half so Barry must have been brought on.

AIG December 4 at 9:54 pm

I wish I had more money :) 107mil aint enough, I think the only striker who may be worthy of playing up front on his own in my team is Ade. At 11mil though I’d have to comprimise elsewhere.

I’m going with a 4-5-1 for the next few weeks, have brought in Defoe and the twat had better deliver :)

Of all the strikers I’d like to see Berba have a great 2nd half of the season, especially as he’ll be involved in two double gameweeks?

Chrissyboy December 4 at 10:05 pm

Makes you wonder what he’s like on the training ground, coz when he’s playing he spends most of his time walking or light jogging. When you compare the effort he puts in with that of others e.g. Rooney, Evra, Scholes he’s not even breaking sweat. I think that must get mildly annoying for some of his teammates on occasion.

As a result I can’t see him bagging that many points this season, certainly not goals at any rate, and would think that most of what he will get will be by way of assists. Also, he doesn’t like the cold weather!

bazman December 4 at 10:00 pm

I’m contemplating getting a ‘pool defender to swap for Evra over the next couple of games but which (outside of carragher) will get guarantee games each week?

Cantona December 4 at 10:03 pm

arbeloa

Pierre Luigi Collina December 4 at 10:03 pm

Arbeloa is nailed on mostly,but u never know im in the same position as you and im opting 2 bring in a.cole and have 3 chelsea defenders 4 ad next month,4 out of 5 clean sheets! EASY POINTS

Chrissyboy December 4 at 10:07 pm

He’s injured at the moment, but Aurelio was scoring well up to when he took a knock. He’s due back in about a week so might be worth a look then, but or the moment Arbster’s the one.

bazman December 4 at 10:08 pm

You are right when is Carvalho back?

Chrissyboy December 4 at 10:15 pm

Haven’t a scooby, but he’s proven injury prone this term so has to be viewed as a gamble if being considered for a sustained run in your team.

bazman December 4 at 10:20 pm

Got Bosingwa maybe I should go for the other flank as well and go for Cole. Might wait till next week on this one and look at my midfield.

Pierre Luigi Collina December 4 at 10:14 pm

Yore guess is as good a s mine mate,luking 4ward 2 getting him back because he is the best defender in the prem!

Sparky December 4 at 10:17 pm

Mark – about bloody time. Holidays in Germany? We’re sat around waiting for this stuff :)

Nick December 4 at 10:17 pm

i am getting really frustrated with Lampard and Bent these past few weeks. Bent just can’t play in a 4-4-2 and to play 4-5-1 Modric needs to return from injury. thinking of shipping him out for Defoe

Chrissyboy December 4 at 10:23 pm

Fixtures R favourable for Pompey, so go for it.

TJMoray December 4 at 10:34 pm

Simple question… who in your opinion is most likely to score more points this weekend King or Martins? Obviously your reasons are invaluable as always!

Fabtastic December 4 at 10:42 pm

In another twist to the Portsmouth saga, it was Belhadj’s turn to get subbed after 45mins with Traore playing the full 90mins. If I recall correcty the roles were reversed in Portsmouth last UEFA cup match? Look forward to your team news for the weekend Mark…

Billy Manchester December 4 at 11:00 pm

The Pompey situation is a right pain…

Nobody can work out who’s gonna be on the field, or for how long, but none of that matters when they’re unable to keep a clean sheet.

jms December 4 at 11:10 pm

Adams has said they need to play more defensive on the road. To me, that means that Pamarot will play left back and Belhadj will play left mid this weekend. I am transferring out Traore this week for Luke Young. Tired of trying to outguess Adams!

fixie December 4 at 11:02 pm

okay… I need a new player or two…

cech

turner carragher bosingwa

ronaldo lamps ireland delap geovanni

bent agbonlahor

( schwarzer, miller, meite, griffin )

who ?

man united def or liverpool def ? or kuyt ?

Stevey December 4 at 11:08 pm

It must be very boring just doing the Ronaldo (C) move every weekend. Your scoring basically working on how many goals he scores at the weeekend.

Many people in my league have not picked him, as it takes all skill out of the captaincy thing.

When you have people like me, making skilled decisions on captaincy every weekend, based on form, opponent, home/away, and 90% of the league just going Ronaldo (C). You must be ashamed, and highly bored

jms December 4 at 11:14 pm

I disagree. Those of us who have Ronaldo, Lampard, a top striker or two, and at least one big 3 defender still agonize over the captain’s choice. Ronaldo has not consistently been the highest scorer each week so far. It’s just that he is more likely than others to have more big games over the course of the season.

Marknlard December 4 at 11:17 pm

Out of interest, how many points does a skilled decision maker such as yourself have?

JWF December 4 at 11:27 pm

Not at all. You pick the best players for your team and Ron happens to be one of, if not the, best player in FPL. The idea that everyone blindly picks him as captain every week is nonsense. You only have to come on hear and read the debates that take place every week about who should be captain. The last two weeks I haven’t captained Ron (not the Kuyt did a whole lot better!) and I think it actually takes more skill (and balls) to have Ron in your team and decide NOT to captain him for the gameweeks that you think he may not produce the goods. As it happens this week I think he will so I will be returning the captains armband to him.

gormdubhgorm December 5 at 12:41 am

Re Reply by JWF on December 4, 2008 11:27 pm:
Ron happens to be one of, if not the, best player in FPL. The idea that everyone blindly picks him as captain every week is nonsense

Wrong fact is a lot of the top overall leaders picked ronaldo as catain blindly as soon as they got him check them if you dont believe me. A bit farcial tbh

MTC December 5 at 10:13 am

No

Seaweed December 4 at 11:52 pm

After a comment above I just had a look at Eduardo there, thinking he might be very cheap… 8.5 – not exactly! Also noticed that his net transfers for this week is +3!!! I’d love to know what goes through people’s heads sometimes!

The Mighty One December 5 at 12:20 am

What’s going through my head?

Well, honestly, Eric Cantona is my fave alltime player, so I am really digging all of the Cantona chatter around here!

But then surely what would be going through most of your heads is: How in the hell can a nice guy from the States, who actually enjoys football, adore a jackass like him?

I just remember the quality.

One

LoveMeThatCantona December 5 at 12:50 am

ooh ahh Cantona

Clive December 5 at 8:52 am

Guys, I need to bench either Ireland or Fellaini this week because of formation rules and I want Zaki in incase he plays.

Not dropping Lampard, Nasri, Kuyt, Bent or Defoe with the fixtures they have so must be Ireland or Fellaini. I’m leaning towards Ireland because of Fulhams home defensive record and Man City’s away one.

Any thoughts on this?

MTC December 5 at 10:16 am

No, None. Sorry.

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