Scout Report – Ivan Ramis
Filed under: Scout Reports - Posted by: Paul
Roberto Martinez dipped into the summer transfer market for the second time earlier this week by acquiring Ivan Ramis from Real Mallorca for an undisclosed fee. The 27-year-old centre-half follows Fraser Fyvie to the DW Stadium after knocking back the advances of West Ham and arrives at Wigan on a three-year contract:
The deal represents something of a coup for the Latics. Earlier in the week, the La Liga outfit had posted an article on their official website confirming they had agreed terms with the Hammers and the player was set for a medical but, according to Wigan chairman Dave Whelan, his manager is the man to thank for the about-turn:
It’s down to the influence of Roberto. The player doesn’t speak English and didn’t want to go to West Ham, who had already agreed a deal. But Roberto asked me to go out to Mallorca where I met their chairman and with the club in receivership, they accepted my offer and then I went to see the player.
The Statistics
Ramis began his career as a 17-year old in the Mallorca youth system back in 2001, where he scored three goals in 50 appearances before stepping up to the senior side in the 2004-05 season. Initially struggling to nail down a first-team role, he was farmed out to Real Valladolid in 2005-06, making 30 appearances for the second division side before returning to his parent club for the following campaign.
The centre-half continued to feature irregularly for the La Liga outfit before finally nailing down a regular spot in the first XI in 2009-10 and, while he has notched five times in the past couple of seasons, Ramis’ tendency to accrue cautions has been his stand-out statistic, with 16 bookings in his last two campaigns in the Spanish top-flight. Over his time at the club, he also attracted interest from Celtic and Sevilla and has represented his country at Under 19, 21 and 23 levels. Ramis featured a total of 164 times for Mallorca, finding the net on nine occasions.
The Prospects
A change of tactics after the mid-point of last season not only brought about a revival in Wigan’s fortunes, it has clearly affected Martinez’s thinking when it comes to player acquisitions this summer. The Latics started the previous campaign with a conventional back-four but the switch to a 3-4-2-1, with three centre-halves preferred at the back, means Martinez needs cover in the defensive area.
Bearing in mind Gary Caldwell and Maynor Figueroa missed just two league games between them all season, it’s likely that Ramis is vying with Antolin Alcaraz for that third spot at the back – his compatriot Piscu is also available, though failed to make much impact and featured just five times for the Latics in 2011/12. Ramis not only offers a real physical presence and strong aerial ability, his distribution from deep could also see him forge a way into Martinez’s first-team plans for the upcoming campaign.
In terms of expected cost across the Fantasy games, a Fantasy Premier League (FPL) starting price of 4.5 seems likely for Ramis- Figueroa has also been handed this initial valuation, however, and is certainly more nailed-on at the start of the new campaign. We can anticipate a cost of around the 5.0 mark Sky Sports game, considering the likes of Caldwell and Figueroa at 5.5 and 5.2 respectively.
When it comes to investing in a backline that returned just eight clean sheets last time round, however, Emmerson Boyce offers a far better solution than his defensive team mates. Granted, he is slightly more expensive than the majority of his Martinez’s defenders – 5.0 in FPL and 5.5 in the Sky Sports game – but his out-of-position role on the right of Wigan’s four-man midfield boosts his appeal considerably more and is likely to deter many Fantasy managers from investing in Ramis.
When assessing their prospects for the start of the season, it’s worth remembering that Wigan’s exploits towards the tail end of last term were arguably the finest example of looking at form over fixtures. While many wrote them off and expected them to drop into the Championship, the Latics racked up seven wins in their last nine, including triumphs over Newcastle, Arsenal, United and Liverpool, with Martinez’s new system going from strength to strength as the campaign came to a close.
The big question is whether Wigan will start where they left off. Certainly, home clashes with Stoke and Fulham in the first six Gameweeks will hold no fear, while a trip to Southampton could well be prosperous. With Chelsea, United and a visit to Sunderland also on their opening agenda, though, many Fantasy managers will be somewhat reluctant to go overboard in snapping up Wigan’s mid-price options, despite that stunning end to the previous season.
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Good, solid set-up. I like it a lot.
Personally, not being a pedant but would upgrade Pog to one of the usual 6m suspects for longevity, and downgrade Yaya to one of the usual 6.5m suspects. I think of Yaya like I do Ramires, steady but no spark. But that's just me.- 10 months, 18 days ago
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A. Hangeland and Cuellar
B. Hughes and Coloccini
Not sure if Hughes is a starter anymore.- 10 months, 18 days ago
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A.
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Best 4.5M goalkeeping rotation?
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Green/Davis for fixtures.
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Nzogbia Taraabt 5 mill Wigan mid. It's 2011 all over again!!!
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Funny how so many people are putting them in their team based on hype alone. Played crap all season. Stay away. For now at least
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A) Rooney + El Ahmadi + Begovic
B) Petric + Bale + Friedel- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Already have Torres (for DGW only) and Ivanovic. With Bale in midfield, I'm thinking I may aswell drop him for my third Chelsea player (Mata) then sacrifice the points in GW2 to trade Bale back in for Mata, along with Rooney for Torres (already planned and £2m in bank).
Surely Mata will make my points up for me (including the penalty) in two games over Bale?- 10 months, 18 days ago
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get Lampard
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I have Ivanovic , Lampard and Torres for the DGW . To avoid the hits I'm going with Rooney from the off instead of Aguero and to compensate for that I've Silva as my City cover. Will be replacing Lampard and Torres with Bale and Adebayor in GW2 and 3 . If this helps .. ?
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Makes sense, but too many changes to my team.
Ok, I'm thinking Frank for Bale GW1, then just lose the four points swapping them back - it will surely still pay off over Bale's points from GW1.- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Will Mata even play in the first few games? He's been playing all summer and surely will get a break.
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Please RateMyTeam. Any input would be appreciated.
Fed–(Friedel)
Cole–Lescott–Hangeland–(Rangel)–(Fonte)
Bale–Yaya–Noble–Guthrie–(Mclean)
Rooney–Torres–Pog- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Thoughts on this 'Non-Torres' team?
Friedel, Federici
Ivanovic, Rangel, Cuellar, A Hughes, McCartney
Hazard/Mata, Lampard, Taarabt, Pienaar, Noble
Rooney, Aguero, Petric
Points to consider:
1) Mata or Hazard?
2) GW2: Either Lamps -> Siggy/VDV or Mata/Hazard -> Bale
3) Is it worth shaving 0.5m off somewhere to enable Lamps -> Bale in GW2? Perhaps A Hughes -> Mariappa/Gunter (extra DGWer) ?- 10 months, 18 days ago
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RVP to UTD
nightmare- 10 months, 18 days ago
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That may change peoples standard save 2m for the Rooney upgrade I would think ?
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i would still prefer rooney over RVP simply cause i dont like RVP
hopefully he will go in Italy- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Mirror says RVP "wants" to stay at Arsenal.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Lot of other interesting transfer rumors too.
- United interested in Isco among other clubs including Barca, Arsenal.
- Man City interested in Scott Sinclair
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Sinclair
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pure speculation
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Why cant he save us all the trouble and go to Juventus
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I really hope he doesn't go. Would be a huge kick in the nuts to Wenger and us Arsenal fans.
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hard to see wenger singing another striker, too
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RVP will only go to City if they can move one of Tevez or Dzeko on. Otherwise I could see him pulling a Rooney and staying.
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Neither will happen IMO and SAF should concentrate on strengthening our defence and CM.
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United dont have 50M, they are skint.
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The only way we spend £50m is if we sell Rooney and Nani.
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It woudlnt surprise me of Nani left.
Didn't united get a few quid from the us stock market floatation and chevy sponsor deal this week?- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Only if people buy shares which isn't a given and Chevy deal starts from 2014-15 season.
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Was just thinking of getting both tevez & kun in my team for GW1. Dont know if its a great idea though
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Could work great with Tevez and Aguero assisting each other in a goal fest.
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Morning all. Whose the best rotation with Ruddy? Thinking Jussi or Fed.
Also, whats the consensus on here with Mcleary? At 5.0 he is tempting for the dgw- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Kebe will start ahead of McCleary if he recovers from his injury. Even if he doesn't, he has Robson-Kanu as competition.
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Kebe is injured I believe.
Happened this week in pre season.- 10 months, 18 days ago
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I know that. He's completely ruled out?
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Stop misleading the lad then
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"Kebe will start ahead of McCleary IF he recovers from his injury"
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thats what i read in the previous article, which has got me thinking. McAnuff is a better option but can't afford the extra 0.5
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would you choose to upgrade if you had the choice?
A) Yaya -> Silva
B) Mclean -> Sessegnon
C) Guthrie ->Sinclair
D) Hold onto the 2.5- 10 months, 18 days ago
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either A or C for me
leaning towards C- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Thoughts and tips on my team?
Fridel Federici
Ivanivich Lescott Demel Hangeland Clyne
Hazard Sinclair Pineaar Larsson Maloney
Torres Aguero Graham
2m in bank for rooney gw2.
cheers fellers- 10 months, 18 days ago
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sincalir overpriced??
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I think he is. I've gone with Michu for my Swans cover
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£0.5m more for a player taking penos is over-priced? Hmm ...
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I guess GB's exit makes him more appealing, but i look at Taarabt, Pienaar, N'zog etc and struggle to justify Sinclair's price tag
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no i don't think so
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has eon revealed the "twist" in his league, yet?
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Friedel Federici
Vidic Cole Demel Fonte Tierney
Noble Michu Pienaar Hazard Bale
Torres Aguero Petric
How would I free up 2M for Torres > Rooney? I plan on doing Hazard to Valencia so that would get me 0.5M- 10 months, 18 days ago
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I wish the charity shieldwas this weekend and the Ade situation was sorted its not possible to be 100% sure of your squad with out it.
Ramires - unknown
Tevez - unknown
Ade - unknown- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Joe Allen, Dempsey, RVP, Dzeko, Carroll... A lot could still happen but yeah surprised that Ade desk is still not complete.
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who will taking pens for Chelsa?
Mata or Lampard- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Has to be the Fat Frank.
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My gut says lamps. But my gut says many things.
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Fatty
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Id say if both are on the pitch - lampard... If there was certainty over frank's game time he'd be an absolute mus-have in FPL. I'm very tempted to gamble on having him in for GW1, and maybe throwing him the armband also.... What do chelsea fans make of his starting prospects?
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he should start
RDM admires him
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Lampard.. And if he is not on the pitch then Hazard IMO
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Neil Taylor to United?
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attracting interest from chelsea,united and one other club i can't recall. shd be a great tranny if united can wrap up the deal. evra's in his thirties and he looks like the perfect replacement
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.... And he's Welsh
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A) Lampard + Lescott (means swapping lamps to sigurdsson gwk3)
B) Hazard + Clichy (means swapping Hazard to Bale gwk 3)- 10 months, 18 days ago
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i have A myself
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I think A is the best bet.
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A) Lampard + Rooney + Silva + El Ahmadi
B) Bale + Aguero + Hazard + Noble
GW2 I will downgrade Torres > Tevez or P.Cisse and then move Lampard to Bale If I choose A- 10 months, 18 days ago
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A with Noble instead of El- Ahmadi if you can find the extra 0.5 ?
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NEW POST LADS AND LASSES!
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Thoughts and tips on my team?
Fridel Federici
Ivanivich Lescott Demel Hangeland Clyne
Hazard Sinclair Pineaar Larsson Maloney
Torres Aguero Graham
2m in bank for rooney gw2.
cheers lads- 10 months, 18 days ago
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Do people think Silva will be as good this season?
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I thought he left a few points behind last season. He rarely got a bonus and the number of times he set strikers up, only to see them miss blatantly was ridiculous. I think he could well have more points in him this season. Not overly injury prone either as he avoids the rough stuff. First name on my team sheet.
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So is Aguero going to play GW1 or is he going to be rested after that friendly? What do we think? Has massive bearing on my team and no doubt many others.
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RMT
DDEA
COLE A , KELLY ,LESCOTT
DYER ,VALENCIA ,WALCOTT ,VAN DER VAART
PETRIC ,AGUERO ,TORRES
THANKS- 10 months, 18 days ago
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How has El Ahmedi been playing? Deep? Attacking? I haven't seen much of him. Is Ireland worth the extra £1m?
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Please RMT.
Fed--(Friedel)
Cole--Lescott--Hangeland--(Rangel)--(Fonte)
Bale--Yaya--Noble--Guthrie--(Mclean)
Rooney--Torres--Pog