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Moneyball – Ricardo Vaz Te

In a new series of articles for members, we explore those unfashionable, unwanted and unexciting players who don’t necessarily come with You Tube clips or Armani ads but deliver that all important quantity which drives the “Moneyball” strategy: comparative value.

The term “Moneyball” found its way across the Atlantic for many with the arrival of John Henry, whose Fenway Sports Group added Liverpool to their holdings list alongside Henry’s great pride: the Boston Red Sox. Henry’s Red Sox failed in a bid to hire Billy Beane, the general manager of the Oakland A’s and chief proponent of the so-called Moneyball strategy but, using Beane’s approach to player acquisitions, went on to deliver their first championship in 86 years. Henry’s attempts to replicate his success on Mersyeside by applying certain principles to player analysis under Damien Comolli failed to have the desired effect, however.

Despite popular opinion, the lessons of Moneyball do not start and end with saving money or looking for one particular attribute in players, but rather looking for players discarded by the wider market, either because they succeed in an uncommon way or because they do so in a particularly unfashionable manner.

Given that most Fantasy managers spend a large portion of our money on just a handful of players, we, too, are forced to invest for value at the bottom end of our squad and in that arena we have to accept imperfection if we’re going to achieve success. Finding the right assets to fill the budget gaps in our squads can prove vital; the Moneyball series is here to help – to investigate the lower end market and attempt to find diamonds in the rough.

Using the Moneyball concept and the data available to our Members, we’ll attempt to identify and analyse players who perhaps appear “imperfect” solutions but, in fact, offer strong potential for those with limited funds.

Chris Glover Creator of the plfantasy blog, providing a stats focused approach to fantasy football. Exiled to Canada but still prefer my sports played on grass rather than ice. Follow them on Twitter

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  1. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Time to lose Michu for Dyer?

    With Michu - Demel, Davies/Clyne

    With Dyer - Cuellar, Gallas/Taylor

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    1. Van Dal
      • 14 Years
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      no chance

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      1. kaz 96
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        he's on WC, mind you.

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      2. ASAP Rocky
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I can't see losing Michu at this point, or maybe even any point this season. He is involved with literally everything Swansea do in the final third.

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          He's really not.

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        2. Djerbil
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Michu and Dyer has virtually got the same points so far in the 3 games at a difference of 1m

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    2. Bielsa’s bucket
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Im veering towards this, it frees up some much needed funds. His returns could be just as good.

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    3. Pasqualinho
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Apparently Dyer may be more prone to rotation now - so it's a risk if this is the case.

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  2. ASAP Rocky
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    11 years, 7 months ago

    RMWCT please

    Vorm – Guzan

    Gibbs – Bertrand – Cuellar – McAuley – Demel

    Michu – Pienaar – Hazard – Dempsey – Sterling

    RVP – Tevez – Fletcher

    0.1 in the bank. I realize Dempsey is a punt but he will come good eventually, it was either him or Cazorla. Being that he might not play this GW he is a bit of a gamble and might put Cazorla back in there.

    What do ya think gents?

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    1. RD84
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Actually, it sounds like a great plan to bring him in next week -- gives him time to rest and get fit/gel with the team, and Arsenal's fixtures get tough. I might do this...

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    2. llamaZA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Put in Cazorla - don't jump on the Dempsey wagon too early. But be ready to go as soon as he gets game time and looks fit.

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    3. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I think u'd be better off with cazorla gien AVB doesn't seem to throw new signings in the deep end,
      I wouldn't hav Guzan (think villa are going to concede most weeks)
      same for betrand as he will rarely start

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      1. ASAP Rocky
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Its either Guzan or Federici

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        1. Samwise the Brave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
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          Both bad options but I'd go fed for saves and because guzan has given waiting in the wings

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          1. ASAP Rocky
            • 12 Years
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            Thats not much to be scared of really.

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    4. Phoenix Wright
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      Get Cazorla imo. You'll thank me later... Unless you find it hard to show gratitude like me in which case you'll score a lot of points nevertheless.

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      1. ASAP Rocky
        • 12 Years
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        Hahaha. I will thank you in advance. Going with Cazorla then. Thanks

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    5. heco87
      • 13 Years
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      Cazorla for Dempsey, maybe even Sterling --> Guthrie for the assured starts but it's not very exciting.

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      1. ASAP Rocky
        • 12 Years
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        Whats not very exciting? My team? Or Sterling -> Guthrie?

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
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          Sterling --> Guthrie. It's anti-exciting.

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          1. ASAP Rocky
            • 12 Years
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            Agreed. Guthrie is boooooorrrriiiiiinnnnnngggggg.

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  3. Djerbil
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    11 years, 7 months ago

    If I am 0.1 short of bringing in Saylor, should I look at Perch at 4.5 alternate to bring in(on a WC) or should I ignore the Newcastle defence and bring in Gorkss/Gunter/Benett etc(4.0 range) and save the 1m??

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    1. kaz 96
      • 12 Years
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      the latter

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    2. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
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      Wouldn't look at Perch. Just go for Gorkss IMO.

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      1. heco87
        • 13 Years
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        +1 - transfer waiting to happen

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      2. Djerbil
        • 12 Years
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        You think He is nailed on and He will get more points than Gunter or Benett??

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        1. kaz 96
          • 12 Years
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          nailed on- yes
          threat from set pieces - yes

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    3. Locarno
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      Two words for anyone looking at Perch:

      Start. Again.

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      1. blue cheese
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        or Shoot. Yourself.

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  4. Parm
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Kagawa AND RVP passed fit!

    What a pleasant surprise!

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    1. Locarno
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      (according to Fergie).

      Meaning they're probably both on life support.

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      1. kaz 96
        • 12 Years
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        😆

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Prob means that neither will start if Evans of last season is anything to go by 😕

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
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        They will start, lets all be grateful!

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  5. Ishmaelito
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    hello, anyone thinks Maicon will start for Man City? Grashias

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    1. Phoenix Wright
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Wont start. May come in as a sub depending on the score...
      I'm ofcourse talking about this gameweek.

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  6. Adam
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Really enjoyed the film Moneyball

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  7. Elvenmunky
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Please RMT my WC team -

    Foster

    Jenks, Rangel, Rafael,

    Pienaar, Michu, Hazard, Cazorla

    RVP, Teves, Lambert

    (Subs: Bego, Demel, Clyne, Guthrie)

    1.8m for Teves to Aguero

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    1. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'd spend the 1.8 on upgrading the defence since I believe tevez and aguero will usually score the same amount

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  8. woodenarmadillo
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    nolan or mirrison? (wc team)

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    1. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
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      Nolan

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    2. Shaps
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I prefer Morrison

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  9. BootlegRascal
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    What are the chances of an Adebayor start looking?

    Has AVB said anything?

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    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      he will start. AVB under pressure and he already said he is going to use Adey as target man in a 442 so i think you safe

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  10. Manani
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    I curently can't go to the fpl website, can anyone tell me when's the deadline?
    the usual 11:30?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Yep!

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    2. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      usual

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  11. Hyperion
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Tevez or Kagawa VC?

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    1. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Tevez

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Tevez by a mile

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    3. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Tevez

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    4. Phoenix Wright
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Tevez

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      1. Hyperion
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers lads.

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  12. Samwise the Brave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    WCT

    Szeznesy—–Jaaskelainen
    Clyne—-Willaims—–Cuellar—Baines—-ridgewell
    Michu—-Hazard—-Nolan—-Cazorla—-Guthrie
    Van Persie—-Tevez—-Lambert

    Not sure about Szezensy is there anyone else (under 5.6)
    Also Guthrie or Sterling????

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  13. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Hi all
    Could you please RMWCT and comment?

    Foster, Begovic

    Baines, Davies, Demel, Gorkks, Cuellar

    Hazard, Cazorla, Michu, Yaya Toure, Guthrie

    Tevez, RVP, Fletcher

    Thank you

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    1. blue cheese
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Where's Gazza? Where's Jenkinson?

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    2. Phoenix Wright
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      8/10

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  14. Jönny
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Sooooo....

    Jelavic, with a backline of Baines, Cuellar, Demel, Davies and Hughes?

    OR

    Lambert, with a backline of Baines, Vermaelan, Cuellar, Demel and Davies?

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    1. In Tommy We Trust
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      This is what been tormenting me for the last couple of hours.

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      1. Jönny
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Make that couple of days.... If I'm honest, one of the key reasons I played my wildcard this week is because it's so frickin stressful, I don't think I could handle playing it later in the season. Imagine trying to make this decision in GW35 or something when it could make or break your season!

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    2. King Nil Miss ✩
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I would go for the second one knowing that is a bit of a gamble but if Vermaelen delivers it gives huge points... although a little contraditory as you´ll want Lambert to score too.

      I just hope that the Scouts are wrong in their predicted line-up so Mirallas doesn´t play and Fellaini keeps its latest position in field...

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  15. In Tommy We Trust
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    How long till we see Vaz Te in a RMWCT?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Aaaaaaaaggggggggeeeeeessssss....... 🙂

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    2. Parm
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      RMWCT

      Vaz Te, Vaz Te.
      Vaz Te, Vaz Te, Vaz Te, Vaz Te, Vaz Te.
      Vaz Te, Vaz Te, Vaz Te, Vaz Te, Vaz Te.
      Vaz Te, Vaz Te, Vaz Te(c).

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        😆

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      2. blue cheese
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Not bad. vice captain?

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      At the rate people are using their WC's...there won't be any til January...by which time Vaz Te will be top scorer 😀

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    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Foster Begovic
      Baines Boyce Demel Davies Gorkss
      Hazard Cazorla Bale Michu Guthrie
      RVP Tevez VazTe

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Cavazorla Vazard

        Rvazp Tevaz VazTe

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  16. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
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    The relationship between shots on goal and goals is clearly strong. Does this strengthen Fulham's appeal who have had far more shots on target than any other team?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Suarez

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Are his shots on target though? I assume he's in the 6% that breaks the rule.

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    2. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      strengths berba's appeal

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  17. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    anyone got Everton press conference? do we have new news about Pienaar?

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    1. kaz 96
      • 12 Years
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      apparently, gibson's their only injury

      no mention of pienaar= he's fit and will start

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        ty

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  18. COMH
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Nibbsy or Martin Unreal - what Burial tracks do you recommend?

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    1. Nibbsy
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      The whole of the album Untrue is amazing. Recommend listening on headphones.

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      1. COMH
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers mate

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
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      Everything, like Nibbsy said, Headphones are a great idea, very atmospheric, I used to listen to his stuff just walking around the city, really amazing. Both his albums are perfect and you should check out the stuff he did with Four Tet (Moth/Wolf Club) and if you like Thom Yorke he did some stuff with him recently too.

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  19. theBoose
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    is it too early to bring ade in considering he hasnt started a game yet?

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  20. kaz 96
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Who has got Vaz Te in his "bottom 7" league.

    Speaking of which, does anyone have the code to that league?

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      No I don't have the code i'm afraid 😉

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      1. kaz 96
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        ahh, shd have noticed that above. thanks

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    2. kaz 96
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      a "?" after league*

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      1. kaz 96
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        bottom 7 team * 🙄

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  21. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Arrgghh

    1)Podolski
    2)Lambert
    3)Berbatov

    what to do folks?

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    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      throw a 4) Fletcher in there too. i am playing catch up need to get this right

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      1. Samwise the Brave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        4

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    2. Shaps
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Berby baby!

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  22. hazza44
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Best CL fwd for 9.5mil and less??

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Mandzukic or Pazzini.

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Settled on your mids then???

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      1. hazza44
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        yes believe it or not!

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    3. blue cheese
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Hulk

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
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        😯

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        1. blue cheese
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          What? Some name popped into my mind. I don't even know his price tbh.

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    4. DHWizzo
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Kherzakov

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    5. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      +1 on Mandzukic

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    6. hazza44
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      thanks guys

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    7. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Mkhitaryan

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  23. Andy1
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Rvp + demel in for cole + Torres for a 8pt hit? Is it worth it?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
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      nope

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    2. AzzaCuper
      • 12 Years
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      not 8 points

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      1. Andy1
        • 14 Years
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        Next week?

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        1. AzzaCuper
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          need to see rest of team

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          1. Andy1
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            DDG Federici
            Cole lescott hangeland cuellar clyne
            Hazard michu yaya pienaar noble
            Torres tevez graham

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    3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
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      No save and do it next week, rvp would need to be rampant just to make that profitable. I can't see a Demel CS for some reason

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      1. Andy1
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Going with tevez or hazard as captain instead. Or Torres?

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  24. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Super6

    ars v sou 3-1
    ast v swa 1-1
    ful v wba 2-1
    mnu v wig 3-1
    qpr v che 1-2
    sto v mnc 0-1

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    1. AzzaCuper
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      qpr to draw 1=1

      otherwise looks good

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
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        I like you!

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        1. AzzaCuper
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          cheers mate

          just had a look at your team

          SNODGRASS...boom

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          1. Crouch Potato!
            • 12 Years
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            I rate him big time, my little nugget! Boom boom! 🙂

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    2. Parm
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Arsenal 2-1 S'oton.
      Villa 1-2 Swansea
      Fulham 3-2 West Brom
      United 3-0 Wigan
      QPR 2-3 Chelsea
      Stoke 0-0 Citeh

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  25. theBoose
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    What are your thoughts on bringing in ade? too early or perfect timing?

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    1. Phoenix Wright
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Seeing your dp, I'd say do it.

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    2. DHWizzo
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Too early.

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  26. Scroobius Mac
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Kevin Doyle was one of the top assisters last season?!
    Anyway, qhat do you think between?

    A) Jelavic + Guthrie
    B) Berbatov + Dyer
    C) Graham + A Johnson

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
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      B

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    2. theBoose
      • 11 Years
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      A

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    3. kaz 96
      • 12 Years
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      B

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    4. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      A.

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  27. DHWizzo
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Bonkers even asking this question, but that is the fantasy land we are living in:

    Zabs or Demel?
    Kagawa or Noble?

    Madness this is a decision that needs to be made.

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    1. DHWizzo
      • 13 Years
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      To start this week.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
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        Zebra, Ozawa

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    2. rasher
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      kag or noble are u fo real yo?noble is the worst player in my team cant wait to get rid of him.. then again he'll probably score 2 penos 2mrw cause ill be benching him

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  28. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Great article, Chris. I am a big fan of Bean's strategy. I also love seeing new names - the 'template' team is dizzyfying with the same 15 or so players. Thank you!

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    1. Chris Glover
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks Pepin. As a couple of other commenters have noted, Beane wasn't the first guy to look at stats, but I think that's only a part of "moneyball". Stats were his tool he used to unearth hidden talent. The acceptance of that hidden and often discounted talent was his true contribution to the game for me.

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Hey chirs. Oddly enough I'm studying moneyball as part of my management programme.

        Starting Monday !

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  29. Mohd Johan
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    RATE MY TEAM please.

    Vorm (Ruddy)
    Demel Jenks Iva (Ridgewell Obrien)
    Santi Michu Yaya Hazard (Guthrie)
    Petric Tevez RVP

    In bank 0.1m
    FT : 1
    Do i need to transfer? Any suggest? Who could be my armband?
    Thanks in advance.

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  30. Hazard267
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    For a hit dont want any dont do either there not worth a hit just A or Fit

    A - Nasri Out - Larsson In

    B - Birtton Out - Larsson in(problem with this one id have to bench nasri)

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    1. Hazard267
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      wtf B

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