Scouting the Doubles – Chelsea
Filed under: Scouting The Doubles - Posted by: Jonty
It’s de ja vu time as we brace ourselves for Chelsea’s second double Gameweek of the season. This time around the London side travel to Stoke before hosting Southampton three days later. Back during the Blues’ double Gameweek 1, decisions over which player to back ended up being season defining – those who backed Eden Hazard and Branislav Ivanovic were handed mega points hauls, while owners of Juan Mata and Fernando Torres and others have arguably been playing catch-up ever since. This time around, though, there are some crucial differences that will shape Fantasy managers’ decisions, not least of which is a change of manager who – to put it mildly – is rather partial to a spot of rotation now and again.
The Prospects
When Rafa Benitez took over the Stamford Bridge reins in Gameweek 13, the future looked bleak for Chelsea’s Fantasy prospects. Two goalless draws were followed by a humiliating 3-1 thrashing away to West Ham but since then they have gradually gelled and discovered an attacking swagger that has made them among the most potent sides in the Premier League in recent weeks. Following their Upton Park defeat, Chelsea have found the net 14 times in the league, including eight against Aston Villa at home in Gameweek 18. Goals have also come on the road, with Chelsea easing three past Sunderland in Gameweek 16 and two against Everton in Gameweek 20. This recent attacking track record suggests the side are more than capable of notching at Stoke and have enough ammunition to inflict a potential avalanche of goals against Southampton at home.
Defensively, the prospects also look favourable. Apart from West Ham no side has managed to score more than one goal against a Benitez-helmed Chelsea in the Premier League. His reign so far also includes four Premier League clean sheets out of eight.
Although Chelsea have the firepower to score against Stoke, the Potters are set to present a stern test for the visitors’ main offensive protagonists. Tony Pulis’ side have conceded just seven goals at the Britannia, the best defensive home record in the Premier League, while five clean sheets in front of their own fans is second only to Liverpool. Southampton did manage to score three against Stoke at home in Gameweek 20, but with key defenders such as Ryan Shawcross absent this was arguably an aberration rather than an indication of faltering defensive form. In attack, however, Stoke have scored just 14 goals at home – the form book would indicate that a low scoring game is in prospect at the Britannia, then.
Against Southampton at home, Chelsea are set to fare better and guessing which players will make the starting XI for this game could be key to racking up a huge haul of points. On their travels, Southampton have shipped 24 goals and failed to register a clean sheet – with 22 goals scored so far at the Bridge, Chelsea will be going into this tie full of confidence.
The Likely Lads
He let many down in Gameweek 1 when he managed just five points across both games, but Juan Mata has been rejuvenated since then and has scored three times, racked up two assists and accrued seven bonus points in eight appearances under Benitez. Chelsea’s highest scoring midfielder in the FPL game, 40 of Mata’s 112 points have come in the last six Gameweeks. With this form he is the stand out pick among Chelsea’s attacking ranks and the best bet for the captain’s armband. As with all Chelsea players, though, the fickle hand of rotation hangs over him, ready to slap him out of the first XI at a moment’s notice. Since Benitez took charge he has left out his countryman twice from the starting line up in the Premier League – both times, this cost him dearly. Against Fulham in Gameweek 14 Mata was brought on for the last 14 minutes, which proved too short a time to avert a 0-0 draw. Most recently against QPR, Mata, who is priced at 9.9m in the FPL game and 8.9m in the Sky Sports game, was only brought on in the 74th minute; leaving him little time to halt a 1-0 defeat. Dare Benitez leave out the jewel in Chelsea’s crown again so soon after the QPR defeat?
Eden Hazard, who is priced at 9.5m in the FPL game and 7.7m in the Sky Sports game, is another that was left out of that QPR defeat and has also been dropped from the starting line up twice under Benitez. He is also often one of the first midfielders to be subbed off by Benitez, with the Belgian only completing 90 minutes twice since the former Liverpool and Inter Milan manager took charge. Nevertheless, he is the second highest scoring Chelsea midfielder in the FPL game with 108 points and offers a goal and assist threat that is impossible to ignore. This season he has racked up four goals and 11 assists as well as accruing 8 bonus points –under Benitez, the Belgian has scored once and has two assists in the Premier League.
He may be set to leave Chelsea this summer but Frank Lampard, priced at 8.4m in both the FPL and Sky Sports games, has been rolling back the years in recent weeks to show the West London club what they will be missing. After recovering from an injury in Gameweek 16 he has scored three times, including a brace away to Everton in Gameweek 20 – with penalties and set pieces in his locker, the veteran could be a shrewd investment during the double Gameweek. Rotation is once again his biggest enemy, though. Since Gameweek 16 he has started three league matches and managed the full 90 minutes just once. Among our main midfield targets, Lampard was the only one not to make the starting XI during Chelsea’s 2-0 defeat in the first leg of the Carling Cup semi-final clash with Swansea last night; he did come on later in the game, which could indicate he is at least set to start against Stoke.
Playing with a front three, the central striker role is crucial to Chelsea’s formation and Fantasy managers’ selection. The big question though is which of Fernando Torres and new recruit Demba Ba will play in that role during the double Gameweek. Benitez has hinted that the pair can play together, but the likely scenario is that just one will be used up front. This was certainly the case during the midweek Carling One Cup clash, where the former Newcastle man replaced Torres, who is priced at 9.8m in the FPL game and 9.5m in the Sky Sports game. The smart money, given Benitez’s passion of rotation, is that Ba will start one of the games, probably against Stoke, and Torres tasked with putting Southampton to the sword. If Benitez breaks with form and opts for his best team and attacking outlet then Ba, who is priced at 8.6m in the FPL game and has a 9m price tag in the Sky Sports game, has the clear edge. He has already scored a brace on his Chelsea debut, against Southampton in the FA Cup, and is the side’s top FPL points scorer with 115, although all these were achieved with Newcastle. With 13 goals and three assists this season, if he plays he is likely to score. Torres has been much maligned since joining Chelsea and has never lived up to his £50m price tag but has, nevertheless, managed seven goals, five assists and eight FPL bonus points this season. So far he has four double digit Gameweeks under his belt.
In defence, David Luiz, priced at 6.7m by FPL and 6.8m in the Sky Sports game, is among the safest picks, with the versatility of being able to play defensive midfield and centre back roles. Jon Obi Mikel’s departure to the African Cup of Nations will give his owners confidence that Luiz can retain a midfield berth in the starting XI over both games. Ashley Cole was another to be rested against QPR, which lessens the threat of rotation, but with a price tag of 6.7m in the FPL game (7.3m in the Sky Sports game) and only one double digit FPL score so far, Luiz, who also has set piece duties in his repertoire, arguably offers a better option than the left-back. Right back Cesar Azpilicueta does have the benefit of costing just 5.7m in the FPL game and 5.5m in the Sky Sports game, but with just two assists, two bonus points and no goals, his owners are likely to be reliant on clean sheets. Gary Cahill is reasonably priced at 6.2m in the FPL game and offers attacking threat with two goals and assists under his belt, but if Chelsea’s injured captain John Terry returns his place will surely come under threat.
While Branislav Ivanovic should be the pick of Chelsea’s defenders, sitting on 93 points and able to play centre back and right back, his woeful display midweek against Swansea places a question mark over his place in the starting XI. His two blunders led to both goals and having started every Premier League game under Benitez, the manager may feel he is due a rest and Fantasy managers may think his 7.1m price tag in the FPL game and cost of 7.2m in the Sky Sports game is too high. In goal the 4.3m FPL priced Ross Turnbull, who costs 3.9m in the Sky game, is the cheapest option, but his decision making also played a part in both Swansea goals midweek and brings his security of starts in the absence of the injured Petr Cech into doubt, as Hilario waits in the wings.
Cheeky Punt
Oscar has not set the Premier League alight yet and so far failed to replicate his outstanding Champions League form but, priced at £7.8m in FPL and with five assists so far, he could be worth a gamble if he can improve on his recent gametime. Certainly, Victor Moses’ departure to the African Cup of Nations could boost his chances. Similarly, Ramires could also do well over the two games. With John Obi Mikel set to represent Nigeria along with Moses, competition for midfield places lessens and could improve on the Brazilian’s game time. Even as a substitute Ramires, who is priced at 6.2m by FPL, can do damage, scoring twice against Aston Villa in Gameweek 18 after coming on in the 60th minute.
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January 10 at 3:53 pm
Digable Planets says:
Do I Bench:-
A Santi
B Silva
Very close call!
January 10 at 3:54 pm
Nick says:
You shouldn’t really be benching either, tbh. Who is it you are playing over them?
January 10 at 3:56 pm
Digable Planets says:
Walcott, Puncheon, Mata
January 10 at 3:57 pm
Digable Planets says:
Berba, Suarez, Torres
January 10 at 4:14 pm
Nick says:
Do Torres -> Ba for a hit first
January 10 at 3:58 pm
El Magico says:
bench Santi since you play Walcott
January 10 at 4:00 pm
Digable Planets says:
Have had Santi on the bench til today, now I’ve started to waver slightly!
January 10 at 4:03 pm
El Magico says:
spread the risks, Silva could get assists from corners….
January 10 at 3:58 pm
Digable Planets says:
The RMT model says bench Silva, so I guess I should go with it.
January 10 at 3:54 pm
UPTHESHAKERS says:
A) Lambert & Michu
or
B) Berbatov & Pienaar
January 10 at 4:07 pm
El Magico says:
A
January 10 at 4:09 pm
El Magico says:
A – cost 14.5 – 217 points
B – cost 13.9 – 173 points
January 10 at 3:55 pm
El Muñeco says:
what do people think of this WC
Bego, Bunn
Azpi, Sagna, Demel, Davies, Mariappa
Bale, Haz (one week punt, Caz next week), Walcott, Fellaini, Guthrie RvP, Suarez, Berb
Thoughts appreciated
January 10 at 3:56 pm
Who needs Mourinho - We've got our physio. says:
Luke Shaw pledges his future to Saints. Great news. 5 year contract signed in July when he turns 18… now ~’@# off Wenger you’ve plundered enough of our players!
January 10 at 3:57 pm
El Muñeco says:
Just a way to boost his sale value. Gone in the summer.
January 10 at 3:58 pm
Hazmat says:
It just means you’ll get a bigger fee at the end of the season when Chelsea buy him to replace Cole. He is the only reason why it’d make sense to release Cole.
January 10 at 4:03 pm
Who needs Mourinho - We've got our physio. says:
Both of you, nice try at WUMing but you’ve clearly not seen the interview with Luke Shaw himself confirming it. The boy wants to stay at Southampton while he is young, and eventually move when the time is right – he’s said it himself. He has no desire whatsoever to be sat on the bench of a premier club and by staying at Southampton he will be guaranteed that.
January 10 at 4:06 pm
Hazmat says:
I’m not trying to wind you up. I’ve seen him a few times and he is the real deal. Bertrand is dogshit and if we let Cole go, he’d be the perfect replacement.
January 10 at 3:56 pm
Brookins says:
To follow up GB’s post. Here are some of the top scoring midfielders and forwards points per minute:
Hernandez – 0.11
Walcott – 0.106
RVP – 0.089
Mata – 0.084
Bale – 0.074
Rooney – 0.075
Suarez – 0.071
Fellaini – 0.07
Ba – 0.069
Berbatov – 0.058
January 10 at 3:57 pm
Brookins says:
Dzeko comes in at 0.096
January 10 at 3:59 pm
fuml_akimbo says:
How about Michu? I’d work it out myself, but can’t access the FPL site from work.
January 10 at 4:00 pm
Brookins says:
0.071
January 10 at 4:00 pm
Brookins says:
Lukaku also has higher points per minute then bale.
January 10 at 4:01 pm
bum face bonkers says:
how about david silva?
January 10 at 4:02 pm
Brookins says:
0.056
January 10 at 4:04 pm
bum face bonkers says:
thanks
January 10 at 4:04 pm
Hazmat says:
Pablo Hernandez is 0.062. Silva is Mr Consistency. Consistently worse than a 5.9 midfielder!
January 10 at 4:01 pm
Rui says:
Lampard – 0.092.
January 10 at 4:11 pm
Giggs Boson says:
Nice, thanks. The thing is, i don’t want a player who doesn’t play enough minutes to score more than another, if you catch my meaning.
January 10 at 3:56 pm
juancarlos - Lewandowski, please stay at BVB says:
Asked about it couple days ago, but I’d like to find some more info.
Does anybody have Football Manager 2013 for iPad / iPhone ? Is it worth to buy?
January 10 at 3:56 pm
hnmfm says:
How’s my team looking? Should I play Cuellar instead of Zabaleta or stick with this?
http://i.imgur.com/iJTaV.png
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January 10 at 3:58 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
You’re knicked son……
January 10 at 3:59 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
…….for impersonating a polar bear
January 10 at 3:59 pm
JT - Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult. says:
January 10 at 4:00 pm
hnmfm says:
but what does knicked mean, I dont understand dat british slang m8
January 10 at 4:02 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
Police respond……..means arrested
Please respond….play Zabs…..
January 10 at 4:03 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
And team looks sweet but lose the Pog…..for anyone…..
January 10 at 4:07 pm
hnmfm says:
Got no liquidity m8, going 3 5 2 for the rest of the season, Pog is just a benchwarmer.
January 10 at 4:10 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
Fair one….looks good…
January 10 at 3:57 pm
Nick says:
I’m sure this has probably been asked today, but who would you rather have?:
A) Mata & Suarez
or
B) Gerrard & Ba
January 10 at 3:58 pm
Conrad. - Michu @ Santi's Sleigh! says:
A all damn day!
January 10 at 3:59 pm
Nick says:
Really? It’s what I currently have, but I feel Gerrard will be a better option than Sureaz this second half of the season and likewise with Ba vs Mata.
January 10 at 4:01 pm
Conrad. - Michu @ Santi's Sleigh! says:
nah, Suarez is always a threat and Ba will be rotated more often than any of those 4 players mentioned.
January 10 at 4:05 pm
Nick says:
I think Ba will get rotated less than people think. Benitez will be gone otherwise. Torres was atrocious last night and clearly isn’t improving. And with Ba being on form he should retain his PL place, IMO. Then again, this is Rafa we’re talking about here so you’re probably right….
January 10 at 3:59 pm
La Roja says:
A
January 10 at 4:00 pm
r0binh0 says:
given A is 2.3m more expensive than B and you feel you need to canvas opinion, doesn’t that give you the answer already?
January 10 at 4:02 pm
Conrad. - Michu @ Santi's Sleigh! says:
good pt. obv, B is the better value option.
January 10 at 4:06 pm
Nick says:
Was generally interested. I think it’s a close call in terms of how many points the 2 pairs will bring, but yes, big price difference, so maybe B is superb value?
January 10 at 4:16 pm
r0binh0 says:
That was my point. If you feel it’s even a close discussion without bringing price into consideration then by definition B must be the way to go.
Personall I’m A all the way but I picked up Suarez at 9.4 and I think Ba will only get 60-70 mins average per game over the rest of the season.
January 10 at 3:58 pm
CABAYE4 says:
Who do people think will be relegated from the PL this season?
Looking at the table, there’s a lot of clubs (including my Newcastle) that look far too good to go down but it is a real possibility. Still think anyone from West Ham (11th) down could easily be relegated imo.
January 10 at 4:00 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
newcastle will not be relegated there big players will come back and can see them hitting formonce there injured players are back
reading and qpr and villa all going down imo
January 10 at 4:04 pm
CABAYE4 says:
I don’t think we’ll go down but unless we start winning games it’s becoming more of a possibility.
For some strange reason, I’ve always thought QPR would escape from relegation and I still think they could. I think someone who looks pretty safe now (West Ham/Norwich maybe?) could end up being relegated.
January 10 at 4:24 pm
Stay Calm And Pass Me The Remote says:
west ham and norwich will not go down.
January 10 at 4:01 pm
The Parmtree says:
Reading, QPR & Villa for me.
January 10 at 4:03 pm
★FC Borecelona★ says:
Reading Villa Soton
January 10 at 4:06 pm
Paz12 says:
Reading, QPR and Villa, I agree.
January 10 at 4:20 pm
Fabio Duarte says:
Villa, QPR, Southampton
January 10 at 4:23 pm
Stay Calm And Pass Me The Remote says:
reading are going down mate.
January 10 at 3:59 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
Im benching michu over
Fellaini, Walcott,Mata, Ramirez
Ruiz RVP suarez
good or bad move he scored in last 2 games in all competition looks deadly but think the others will outscore him
January 10 at 4:00 pm
La Roja says:
Disagree, michu is explosive. Would bench ramirez or ruiz instead on that lot
January 10 at 4:01 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
ramirex despite dgw vs shaky villa defence (your piks biased)
January 10 at 4:00 pm
Conrad. - Michu @ Santi's Sleigh! says:
never bench Michu!
i’d drop Walcott (more explosive potential) or Ruiz (more consistent production).
January 10 at 4:01 pm
juancarlos - Lewandowski, please stay at BVB says:
would rather bench Ruiz or even Theo
January 10 at 4:04 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
everyone saying bench ruiz but not berba its going to be interesting
January 10 at 4:02 pm
Nick says:
RMT tool agrees with you. I’m playing Walcott over Michu as well…
January 10 at 4:05 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
BRILLIANT
January 10 at 4:07 pm
Tom-Dwan says:
Playing Ruiz over michu is an accident waiting to happen
January 10 at 4:12 pm
El Magico says:
I’m playing Michu and benching Theo this GW
January 10 at 3:59 pm
bum face bonkers says:
o’brien’s injury earned his owners 4 points last gameweek. classic case of rough with the smooth
January 10 at 3:59 pm
Conrad. - Michu @ Santi's Sleigh! says:
start Evra, Nasta, or Sagna?
(already starting Luiz and Shaw)
January 10 at 4:01 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
sagna imo
January 10 at 4:02 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
your defence is veryu expensive tbh u cant have any sitting on the bench dwngrade nasty and evera and upgrade sagna to gibbss then strenghten uptop
January 10 at 4:03 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
do you even have any of those players as your wildcard is not active
January 10 at 4:05 pm
Conrad. - Michu @ Santi's Sleigh! says:
this is for my ESPN team.
January 10 at 4:02 pm
CarelessGenius says:
Would you rather have Marveaux v Nor (a) or Sterling v Utd (a)…?
January 10 at 4:05 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
sterling wont play imo
January 10 at 4:10 pm
ATHLETICO TIMBO. Top 10,000 any season 2nd Wildcard league 16771-553963 says:
Sterling
January 10 at 4:02 pm
Koflok - like taking hits because not taking hits is too mainstream.. says:
I just did Defoe -> Ba for a hit.
That officially concludes my Berba to Defoe punt is a total fail. Loss 4+10-2= 12 pts there.
I hope Bale doesn’t go loco, or if he does at least Fellaini and Walcott still outscores him.
January 10 at 4:04 pm
CarelessGenius says:
More excited by defenders than attackers for Chelski DGW. Think stoke might be tough at home, whilst Sou at home must produce a CS.
January 10 at 4:07 pm
Koflok - like taking hits because not taking hits is too mainstream.. says:
I know defenders will probably be more stable in giving returns for Chelsea. And Mata.
But that ain’t fun. Taking risk with a potential high reward (or major bust) is fun.
January 10 at 4:17 pm
CarelessGenius says:
I don’t see it like that. I prefer consistency and I reckon that’s what improves your rank….
January 10 at 4:23 pm
Koflok - like taking hits because not taking hits is too mainstream.. says:
I started at week 2. And this is my first season.
So from the beginning I never consider climbing the ranking ladder as my objective.
I consider this as my learning season. Heck I didn’t even know how the resale value works before I join this place.
This season I just play it for fun and taking punts to get that adrenaline and mainly the mini leagues with my mates.
Thus explain the irrational punts (and hits) I consistently make..
January 10 at 4:08 pm
Royal5 says:
I don’t get this. Why would you make that move? And for a hit? Ba will start one of the DGW games and most likely vs. Stoke away. And Defoe is pretty much nailed on for this weekend and Ade going to ACON later will make him a solid option i imo.
January 10 at 4:14 pm
Koflok - like taking hits because not taking hits is too mainstream.. says:
As I said, just taking risk. Got a gut feeling that Ba will do well.
He’ll start vs Stoke (which he scored a hattrick last season) and get plenty time vs Southampton to do some damage.
And I will get Defoe (and now Ba) out next GW to get Podolski in anyway so I’ve never considered him as a long term plan. Even with Ade out.
January 10 at 4:04 pm
Home Run Baker says:
Ranking the premium DEFs:
On the assumption that these are the top defenders, please rank them for the season, disregarding the attraction of the coming DGWs.
A: Gibbs
B: Luiz
C: Baines
D: Zabaleta
E: Evans
Thanks
January 10 at 4:05 pm
Scroobius Mac says:
C
E
D
B
A
January 10 at 4:06 pm
La Roja says:
C
E
D
B
A
January 10 at 4:06 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
A
C
B
D
E
January 10 at 4:06 pm
Berbilly Gilmore says:
C
D
E
A
B
January 10 at 4:06 pm
Dogba says:
C
E
B (OOP and decent defense)
A/D (Maicon is back soon, Richards will be back.. sometime)
January 10 at 4:08 pm
Home Run Baker says:
You all still like Baines – pretty amazing given the lack of CS.
January 10 at 4:09 pm
Scroobius Mac says:
And yet he’s still outscoring all of those players so far.
January 10 at 4:13 pm
Home Run Baker says:
Yep. That’s what I mean.
January 10 at 4:14 pm
Scroobius Mac says:
He is 1-2 million dearer than most of that mob though.
January 10 at 4:11 pm
Berbilly Gilmore says:
All of the others have question marks against them.
Gibbs – Made of glass
Zaba – Rotation risk (although minimal)
Evans – Rotation risk
Luiz – Rotation risk
January 10 at 4:18 pm
Birthday Sess says:
D
E
B
A
C
January 10 at 4:22 pm
CarelessGenius says:
Where’s Evra? Wish I’d had him last few GW’s…..
January 10 at 4:04 pm
La Roja says:
Turnbull ( mig)
Luiz, rafael, gibbs (clyne, demel)
Mata. Fellaini, theo, michu ( noble )
Suarez, rvp, berba
I dont think i am gonna play clyne, he will probably get 4 points anyway.
No bale is a bit worrying and he has the tougher fixtures out of all fab 5
Thoughts pls
January 10 at 4:14 pm
AriseSirGiggsy says:
3 “premium” defenders seems a tad greedy in that area
January 10 at 4:16 pm
La Roja says:
Cos of their attacking potentials i will stick with them
January 10 at 4:18 pm
AriseSirGiggsy says:
Don’t you losing one to upgrade Berba to Tevez or Ba makes sense?
January 10 at 4:29 pm
La Roja says:
Rafatation will be full for ba and torres
January 10 at 4:05 pm
Bambi says:
how is my team looking for saturday?
Begovic
Azpill Gibbs Hughes
Michu Bale Mata (c) Walcott
Rvp Suarez Berba
subs: 3.9keeper Nelsen Shorey Sterling
1ft? suggestions?
a) nelsen –> shaw
b) Sterling —> punch
c) Berba —> lambert
January 10 at 4:07 pm
La Roja says:
D) save it
January 10 at 4:08 pm
Bambi says:
that is what i am probably going to do, then use two frees to do sterling–> joe cole and nelsen–> demel before wildcarding after arsenal dgwk
January 10 at 4:05 pm
Giggs Boson says:
*** More PPG
***
RVP (with Rooney [14 games]) 6.61
RVP (without Rooney [9 games]) 7.86
I think i’m dropping him when Rooney returns. 6.61 is still good PPG, but when he is 14.1m and Bale is 9.8m with a similar PPG of 6.5, RVP looks horrendous value.
January 10 at 4:07 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
go take ur BS somewhere else RVP offers consistent captain performer every week
January 10 at 4:09 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
9/21 of his scores have been 8+ points.
Take your conceited BS somewhere else. Or learn to read, the whole point of this site is to discuss FPL, rather than condem those who dare to think differently.
January 10 at 4:07 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
I’m considering it, but I tend to slowly upgrade my defence and downgrade my strikers after a WC, so I am not sure its wise to start of without RVP.
January 10 at 4:09 pm
Giggs Boson says:
I have been looking, and it is difficult to spend the cash elsewhere, and i guess this is the defining argument.
January 10 at 4:11 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
Its always been about gaining the best value. That blokes least squares regression thing didnt have RVP.
January 10 at 4:11 pm
Hazmat says:
Midfield of Mata, Bale, Gerrard, Walcott? There are bound to be players that improve in the second half of the season too. Like Aguero, PCisse, Baines, Rooney.
January 10 at 4:16 pm
Giggs Boson says:
But Michu and Fellaini are keeping up with the heavy hitters! They are tearing up the game. I would be forced to spend it all in defence
Michu and /fellaini are making this a unique season double handedly.
January 10 at 4:22 pm
Hazmat says:
They are probably due some regression, maybe. But without RVP you are more flexible. You can just swap out a midfielder or two based on fixtures.
January 10 at 4:08 pm
La Roja says:
Haha, u r funny
January 10 at 4:09 pm
JT - Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult. says:
Dont doubt the Postman GB.
January 10 at 4:09 pm
Santi "Arsenal" Cazorla says:
says the person whose also had rvp since gw2!!!!
January 10 at 4:12 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
I presume your referring to me. To which I should point out that I never said anything was wrong with owning RVP, but to consistently repeat propaganda without any regards to the truth of it is foolish.
January 10 at 4:14 pm
Giggs Boson says:
I know, after just looking at this, i’m starting to wish i hadn’t. Many of the top players don’t have him. I’m just giving you stats, use them if you want. If not, just the feck up.
January 10 at 4:11 pm
~SpartakMac says:
Interesting.
Not sure if Roonpig will instantly find his feet again which is my problem. Also, getting RVP back for 14.0m-14.2m (in the near future) is a daunting prospect.
January 10 at 4:17 pm
JKisthe1 - A Founder of Berbism says:
I have enjoyed these posts of yours recently GB. You can make a convincing argument but for me these stats don’t offer a true reflection of value. Although you appear to get a worse PPG from RvP when Rooney is there there is one other thing to factor in (besides the extra cash factor you pointed out before) and that is
When RvP has a poor/average game he still tends to deliver at least 4 or 5 points as a minimum, but can still deliver big hauls on a good day. When Rooney has a poor/average game chances are he will only deliver you 2 points (possibly even 1 if he gets subbed early or gets booked out of frustration). Thus you essentially relying on Rooney being on form to get something from him. RvP can deliver returns more consistently than Rooney but with a similar capacity for explosiveness (or should that be explosivity?
) That swings it in RvP’s favour for me
January 10 at 4:27 pm
Giggs Boson says:
Terrific points. I think this is the deciding factor. You struggle to spend the cash elsewhere and he brings great consistency. If you are really good at picking captains however, you don’t need his consistency. This is a skill i want to learn so i can cash in on RVP and go for the elite positions.
January 10 at 4:10 pm
Iamjack says:
rmt
turnbull
b.jones, clyne, sagna
mata(c),hazard. michu, bale
rvp(vc), berba, suarez
bunn,davies,puncheon,demel
anything missing ??
January 10 at 4:12 pm
Home Run Baker says:
As I understand it, there is no Cech news. Is anyone considering the possibility that Turnbull may be 1st choice for an extended period? Groin injuries are tricky – I have personal experience
January 10 at 4:13 pm
Conrad. - Michu @ Santi's Sleigh! says:
i hope you’re right!
January 10 at 4:14 pm
El Magico says:
Chelsea has a 3rd GK, and Rafa is Rafa
January 10 at 4:15 pm
La Roja says:
As long as ur second goallie is solid, i don’t see any reason why not
January 10 at 4:15 pm
Demi says:
He’ll be back pretty soon. Could be Stoke, but if not, expect him to start against Southampton
January 10 at 4:16 pm
Valar Morghulis(Formerly Keith) says:
someone posted a tweet on here last night where benitez said cech could be in line for a return on saturday.. put me off turnbull completely
January 10 at 4:17 pm
Demi says:
Benitez didn’t, Cech said it himself.
January 10 at 4:21 pm
Manilaman says:
Didn’t Turnball have a shocker against the Swans?
January 10 at 4:18 pm
Steel Arm - Drogba "Unstoppable, Unforgettable... Irreplaceable." says:
got turnbull in for a hit
January 10 at 4:22 pm
zgunce125 says:
The Sothampton game is just 4 days after Stoke game…so I believe they will not risk it before Arsenal game
January 10 at 4:22 pm
Fernando Bubbles - No, I will not rate your team. Do go away. says:
@onlyapound (A Chelsea Fanzine, apparently).
“Spoke to Ashley Cole, Ryan Bertrand, Jamal Blackman and Petr Cech after the game – all gutted. Petr might be back for Saturday #wolUTB”
January 10 at 4:13 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
Anyone listening to TalkSport?
January 10 at 4:15 pm
Home Run Baker says:
Earlier in the car – heard the Joe Hart interview. Not right now.
January 10 at 4:18 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
Is Micky Quinn the love child of Rafa and Nando….can’t believe the lengths he going to to defend them. Embarrassing…..
January 10 at 4:14 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
Torres has scored one goal against a top half side this season. I’ll let you write the rest……
January 10 at 4:17 pm
oomzee says:
once upon a time in a stadium far far away from london torres was a much better player
January 10 at 4:18 pm
JT - Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult. says:
Baaaaaaaaaaaaa!
January 10 at 4:21 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
http://i.imgur.com/dHJJa.gif
January 10 at 4:22 pm
JT - Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult. says:
Nice one
January 10 at 4:14 pm
It's The Kompany That Matas says:
Hope this formatting works, Points per minute for Strikers. Also that value across 90 mins and that number divided by cost giving a value. Sorted by PPMinute:
Player____Points____Minutes__Cost__PPMinute___PPM x 90_______Value Per Million
Dzeko____77_______806______7.4___0.0955______8.60______________1.162
RVP_____149______1668_____14____0.0893______8.04______________0.574
Tevez_____107______1281_____8.9___0.0835______7.52______________0.845
Rooney___81_______1081_____11.8__0.0749______6.74______________0.572
Suarez____127______1796_____10.4__0.0707______6.36______________0.612
Ba_______115_______1664____8.6___0.0691_______6.22______________0.723
Podolski__88________1322____8.2___0.0666_______5.99______________0.731
Ruiz______57________878 ____5.4___0.0649_______5.84______________1.082
Aguero____79_______1220____11____0.0648_______5.83______________0.530
Fletcher___94_______1569_____7____0.0599_______5.39______________0.770
Lambert___95_______1594 ____6.3___0.0596_______5.36______________0.851
Berbatov___86_______1485____7.1___0.0579_______5.21______________0.734
Defoe_____97_______1694 ____8.5___0.0573_______5.15______________0.606
Benteke___78_______1423____6.7___0.0548_______4.93______________0.736
Torres_____91_______1706____9.8___0.0533_______4.80______________0.490
January 10 at 4:16 pm
Home Run Baker says:
Ruiz is an interesting pick
January 10 at 4:18 pm
It's The Kompany That Matas says:
Put him in as I was interested to see his value, pretty nice tbh as I though it would be. I’d go for him ahead of Berbatov and improve elsewhere if I was having to pick one.
January 10 at 4:20 pm
Giggs Boson says:
Can you do this for Berbatov when Ruiz is playing at the same time? I think he’ll be near the top of the table.
January 10 at 4:16 pm
Berbilly Gilmore says:
Nice, so RVP is better value than Rooney…
January 10 at 4:17 pm
AriseSirGiggsy says:
Since this confirms my thoughts on Tevez, Ba being major options and Lambert, Berbatov being bad ideas I must like this! Well done
January 10 at 4:17 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
Thx for this.
Why oh why do I have Torres
January 10 at 4:19 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp.....wesome.gif
January 10 at 4:18 pm
Brookins says:
Ruiz, Dzeko and Lambert it is then!
January 10 at 4:18 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
Numbers
January 10 at 4:19 pm
Berbilly Gilmore says:
http://i.imgur.com/BC3jX.gif
January 10 at 4:24 pm
Jafooli (c) - Up the Jags says:
January 10 at 4:19 pm
Giggs Boson says:
Lovely
You have to question why the players don’t get the minutes in the first place though. I want players who play 90 mins.
January 10 at 4:20 pm
JKisthe1 - A Founder of Berbism says:
this is my major doubt with Dzeko
January 10 at 4:20 pm
Hazmat says:
Hernandez___68___605___7.0___0.1124___10.12_____1.45
January 10 at 4:27 pm
It's The Kompany That Matas says:
Carp forgot about Hernandez
January 10 at 4:20 pm
The3rdTurd says:
I have a spreadsheet at home which does something similar for every player in the league. Will upload and post a link later on when I get home.
January 10 at 4:21 pm
El Magico says:
Regular starters like Lambert/Ba who played twice as many minutes as Ruiz/Dzeko may have a lower ration but still lad in total points. At the end of the day it’s all about total points, else we would all have Buttner in our team
January 10 at 4:15 pm
Glory Glory Man Utd says:
Hernandez or Berbatov?
Ivanovic or Azpilicueta?
January 10 at 4:17 pm
El Magico says:
Berbatov – Ivan/Luiz
January 10 at 4:19 pm
Glory Glory Man Utd says:
Yeah I was thinking the same. Luiz i guess.
January 10 at 4:22 pm
El Magico says:
yup
January 10 at 4:15 pm
oomzee says:
Will Ivan play both DGW games? If not most nailed on Chelsea defender is….
January 10 at 4:19 pm
Spoonerism says:
Non chelsea fan warning!
I’d expect him to be benched for the first game this DGW.
Luiz.
January 10 at 4:30 pm
oomzee says:
cheers, nice rank
January 10 at 4:30 pm
~SpartakMac says:
He’ll play both.
He lost the game for Chelsea yesterday but benching him will only knock his confidence further and I believe that’s Rafa’s view after his comments last night. If Terry’s fit he’ll come in for Cahill/Azpi.
January 10 at 4:18 pm
UPTHESHAKERS says:
Anyone going with bale (c) this weekend?
January 10 at 4:26 pm
El Magico says:
too risky over DGW players but I can see him getting 10+ points
January 10 at 4:18 pm
Kuyt Hero says:
My planned WC team is 0.2 over budget… Does Downgrading Michu (sp 7.6, i lose 0.6 in team value) to Fellaini sound insane?!
January 10 at 4:28 pm
~SpartakMac says:
Not insane, if you were going to take Michu out for anyone be glad it’s Fellaini.
If you’re keen on keeping Mich, could you not downgrade a 4.0 defender (assuming you have one) to a 3.8 – e.g Mariappa, Pearce, Harte?
January 10 at 4:33 pm
Kuyt Hero says:
Yeah, I have Demel, but wanna keep him if possible. My planned team that is 0.2 over at the moment is
Jaas turnbull
shawcross demel harte Azpi Davies
michu walcott mata bale punch
RVP suarez ruiz
Another solution is that I can go Shawx–> Cameron, but again i stand to lose 0.5, hate doing that. There another way that u see where i can downgrade that 0.2? Any ideas appreciated!
January 10 at 4:49 pm
~SpartakMac says:
Think ShawX would be the easiest option I’m afraid. Could do Puncheon > Guthrie to free up some funds too.
You just keeping Turnbull for the DGW?
January 10 at 5:01 pm
Kuyt Hero says:
might have to do that then… yea, I was thinking i can just play Jaask every week after until after GW 26 and prob have worked out a plan to transfer out turnbull by then… I was thinking puncheon cos of DGW, not a fan of owning guthrie tbh. too many decisions!
January 10 at 4:18 pm
Scroobius Mac says:
Conventional wisdom says that Newcastle don’t create chances whilst Chelsea trio create a multitude of them, right?
http://members.fantasyfootball.....view/2003/
January 10 at 4:21 pm
Berbilly Gilmore says:
You might want to fix that filter. Mine went to this week where it was 20-9 in favour of Chelski.
January 10 at 4:19 pm
mo says:
Quick pole, caz or walcot bench?
January 10 at 4:22 pm
Royal5 says:
Got to be Caz – with Walcott playing up front.
January 10 at 4:24 pm
mo says:
It may have to be both of them as possible choice between fellaini and wal/ caz for mata
January 10 at 4:20 pm
rvp786 says:
those who are going Without the Power 5. which one are you dropping?? and if so what reasoning is there to drop that player. cheers
January 10 at 4:25 pm
JKisthe1 - A Founder of Berbism says:
Mata
Biggest rotation risk. If you consider Michu, Fellaini and Walcott as forwards you have those 3. it then comes down to a choice between Mata or Bale. I prefer Bale. Thus if you want all 5 you have to go 3-5-2 IMO
January 10 at 4:27 pm
rvp786 says:
yeh fair enough. mata is the one i will probably drop eventually after the dgw sometime. but at the moment i will have the power 5
January 10 at 4:28 pm
mo says:
Mata is my priority transfer this week!