Pre-Season

Fantasy Premier League – Player List Analysis – Budget Midfielders

Having analysed the Goalkeepers in addition to Budget, Mid-Price and Premium Defenders on offer in this season’s Fantasy Premier League (FPL), our assessment of the Player List now moves to midfield. First up, then, we look at the cheaper end of the market as we cast an eye over the potential on offer from 5.5 and below.

Villa new boy Aleksandar Tonev has the potential to be a decent value option after being handed a 5.0 price tag. The Bulgarian could be fielded as the most advanced central midfielder in either a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, with a role in “the hole” behind Christian Benteke suiting his style of play and penchant for a long shot. With four goals and three assists for Lech Poznan last term, he’s one to watch though with games against Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City in the first six Gameweeks, many will be giving Paul Lambert’s side a wide berth. If the match with Jose Mourinho’s side is moved to Gameweek 1, thus handing Villa a double, Tonev may appeal to those searching for a cut-price option in their initial squads.

Last time out, Aron Gunnarsson, Peter Whittingham and Craig Noone all registered the strongest attacking stats from the Cardiff midfield but the latter two are far less likely to be nailed-on for game time, with Whittingham falling out of favour and failing to find the net since October in 2012/13. Frustratingly, while Gunnarsson looks the most secure starter of the 5.0 priced trio, he’s struggling to be fit for the start of the season after sustaining a shoulder injury on international duty during the summer – given he produced eight goals and five assists in 2012/13, his potential is obvious. Bo-Kyung Kim (5.0) was installed as a regular as the previous season unfolded, though, and could play a pivotal part for the Bluebirds in central midfield next time out – he also has a share of free-kicks and corners in his locker and could be a real under the radar option.

Jerome Thomas looks set to afford us a cut-price option at Crystal Palace. The former West Brom man comes in at just 4.5 and, as mentioned in our recent Moving Target piece, has revealed he is set to be given the freedom to attack by Ian Holloway. Granted, our expectations are relatively low but Thomas should appeal to those on the lookout for a cheap fifth midfielder and also rotates with Hull, for Fantasy managers scouring the market for a budget midfield pairing. The likes of Robbie Brady (four goals, 13 assists), Ahmed Elmohamady (three goals, nine assists) and Robert Koren (nine goals, five assists) all seem nailed-on under Steve Bruce and will each set you back 5.0. With spot-kicks and a share of set-pieces and corners in his locker, in addition to the role in “the hole”, Koren looks the most enticing of the Tigers trio, though Stephen Quinn, at 4.5, is another Hull midfielder to consider – he produced three goals and six assists from 42 appearances last term.

Bryan Oviedo’s situation is one to monitor at Everton. If United snap up Leighton Baines, the Costa Rican could be handed the role on the left of the Toffees midfield if Roberto Martinez moves to 3-4-3. While Seamus Coleman likely to offer an out of position option on the opposite side of midfield, Oviedo’s 4.5 price tag could turn a few heads if such a scenario transpires – nevertheless, the former still looks the better bet overall. Steve Sidwell (5.0) looks the most secure for starts amongst Fulham’s budget midfield options, though Fantasy managers will be hoping Alex Kacaniklic or Pajtim Kasami can establish themselves as a regular on the flank, with 5.0 and 4.5 price tags respectively. Both have the potential to be cut-price options but right now, the jury remains out. Similarly, Newcastle’s Sylvain Marveaux (5.0) has the ability to flourish, though question marks remain over his consistency of game time – the Frenchman has already scored in pre-season and is one to keep an eye on, should he finally convince Alan Pardew he’s worthy of a first-team spot.

Norwich new boy Nathan Redmond has been priced in the budget bracket following his move from Birmingham. Much depends on whether Chris Hughton manages to add to the Canaries ranks before the summer transfer window closes but although the 5.0 priced Redmond produced his best season at St Andrews under Hughton, he may struggle for starts in the campaign ahead. With Robert Snodgrass settled nicely in the mid-price bracket, though, Redmond looks a real punt.

Southampton’s Victor Wanyama is sure to earn a few new suitors at a price of 5.0. The summer buy from Celtic is expected to sit alongside Morgan Schneiderlin in the double-pivot in the Saints’ 4-2-3-1 and with six goals and three assists last term, produced a decent attacking contribution. Certainly, his physical presence in front of the back-four should bolster Southampton’s clean sheet potential and with a strong home/away rotation with Jerome Thomas in the first nine Gameweeks (TOT, SUN, SUN, WHM, SWA, CPL, SWA, FUL, FUL) he’s another who could appeal to those looking to double up on cheap midfielders.

Elsewhere, the likes of Sunderland new boy Cabral, Swansea’s Leon Britton and West Brom central midfielder Claudio Yacob all come in at 4.5 but may struggle to get more than two point returns in any given Gameweek, with Fantasy managers somewhat limited for attacking options in the budget bracket.

Still Under 6.0

Step up just a notch, however, and there’s a lot more on offer. The situation at Arsenal looks intriguing, should Arsene Wenger fail to add to his current squad. Aaron Ramsey and Tomas Rosicky are both priced at 5.5 – while the return of Jack Wilshere is likely to dent one of the duo’s game time, both played prominent parts in the Gunners end of season run which harvested eight wins and two draws from 10 matches. If Wilshere gets the nods ahead of Rosicky in “the hole”, Ramsey may benefit from the new bonus ruling, though a deeper-lying role for Wilshere could see Rosicky rise in our Fantasy estimations if he tucks in behind a lone forward. Ultimately, though, both players’ fortunes are likely to be determined by Wenger’s willingness to spend.

At 5.5, Craig Bellamy is the most expensive midfield option on offer at Cardiff. The Welshman is likely to retain his place on the flank, though, perhaps only moving to a central role on occasion when Malky Mackay moves to a two man frontline. He has a share of free-kicks and corners but his propensity to pick up injuries, allied with cheaper options in the Bluebirds midfield (or similarly price alternatives up top) may see many overlook the veteran.

Fulham’s Ashkan Dejagah started to see more game time on the right in the final few months of last term but, as mentioned above, question marks remain over the pecking order on the flanks under Martin Jol. Setting you back 5.5, he’s pricier than Kacaniklic and Kasami but may offer less security than (the slightly more expensive) Damien Duff. Once again, Raheem Sterling is amongst the cheapest Liverpool midfielders available but his prospects look less promising than last term after Brendan Rodgers strengthened his wing options – with Philippe Coutinho and Iago Aspas favourites for the wide roles and with Stewart Downing and Luis Alberto seemingly ahead of Sterling in the pecking order, giving him a wide berth looks the best answer.

Jonas Gutierrez is likely to offer the security of starts for Newcastle but his form last year was symptomatic of his side’s problems. A goal and a pair of assists hardly makes a persuasive case for his consideration but at 5.5, he’s relatively budget-friendly and remains key to Alan Pardew’s plans. Both Wes Hoolahan and Anthony Pilkington have been priced at 5.5 apiece but with Chris Hughton expected to add further to the Norwich midfield over the next few weeks, the pair will be concerned over their game time. Certainly, Hoolahan looks the most likely for the chop – Pilkington managed five goals from 25 starts in 2012/13 and, providing he remains injury-free, may yet continue as the Canaries first-choice left winger. As mentioned above, though, Robert Snodgrass’ kind cost casts a shadow over the rest of the Norwich midfield options.

Southampton’s Morgan Schneiderlin seems set to benefit from the new Bonus Points System. The Frenchman’s all-round game in the heart of the midfield is finally set to be rewarded but, while his security of starts is far more certain than the similarly-priced Jason Puncheon (5.5) at St Mary’s, Schneiderlin may be overlooked as a result of kind pricing for the likes of Gaston Ramirez and Adam Lallana in the attacking midfield three for the Saints. Stoke’s Matt Etherington couldn’t fare any worse from an attacking perspective than last season. The Potters winger failed to produce any goals or assists but with new boss Mark Hughes primed to go on the attack, Etherington’s delivery from the left may be key to his side’s fortunes – at 5.5, the winger drops from last term’s price and will be looking to return to the sort of form that harvested 146, 124 and 121 points in the three seasons prior to 2012/13. While their away schedule is a concern, Stoke have six out of seven strong opening fixtures at the Britannia (CPL, MCI, NOR, WBA, SOT, SUN, CAR).

Sunderland’s Craig Gardner is also priced at 5.5 but may suffer from Paolo Di Canio’s squad overhaul in the season ahead. Gardner – who is the Black Cats’ first-choice spot-kick taker – found himself playing at right-back last term but with the Sunderland boss expected to add to his back-four, there’s no guarantees over his game time. The fact he is also suspended for the opener gives us time to steer clear and assess the situation in light of Di Canio’s multitude of new signings.

Swansea wide boys Wayne Routledge and Nathan Dyer both come in at 5.5. Routledge comfortably outscored his fellow winger by 126 points to 102 in 2012/13 but with Michael Laudrup bolstering his midfield with a handful of new acquisitions (including 5.5 priced Jonjo Shelvey) the threat of rest and rotation is likely to hang heavy over the Welsh club in the season ahead. If the Swans get past their Europa League qualifier, there will be real concerns over the consistency of starts offered by their mid-price options, with Laudrup expected to utilise the depth of his squad time and again.

Mousa Dembele has been kindly priced at 5.5. His appeal will depend on Tottenham’s formation next time out, though; many feel the addition of Paulinho will allow Andre Villas-Boas to shift from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3; the latter formation could allow Dembele the opportunity to push forward more often and join in the Spurs attacks. West Brom’s Chris Brunt had his poorest season in years last term, with hamstring issues limiting him to just 23 starts. Having racked up 130 points in 2010/11, he’s clearly capable and may yet flourish if he can steer clear of injury, with a share of set-pieces in his locker – with Southampton, Swansea and Sunderland visiting the Hawthorns in the first five, the fixtures are in the Baggies favour.

West Ham trio Matt Jarvis, Mark Noble and Joe Cole all come in at 5.5, with a kind opening schedule to boost their early season appeal. Sam Allardyce’s side have (CAR, new, STO, sot, EVE, hul) in the opening six and could be quick out the blocks – for those unwilling to spend 7.0 on Kevin Nolan, Noble’s spot kicks and share of set-pieces could prove tempting, while Cole and Jarvis’ wide roles in a 4-5-1-/4-3-3 formation may benefit from such an enticing run of fixtures.

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  1. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Finally a team which i am content on,thoughts?

    Mignolet
    Kompany Coleman Collins
    Bale Hazard Lallana Coutinho Silva
    Giroud,Berbatov.

    Subs:Davis,Parr,Turner,Gayle.

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Lallana -> Thomas.
      Gayle -> J Rod.

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      1. Tommytour
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Plus Kompany > Zabaleta

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    2. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      *Kompany is more nailed on than Zabs,and greater possibilty of bonus points for him under the new system
      *3-5-2 is the way to go for me

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    3. Twelve years a slave
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      ignore them

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  2. Saniul
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I think Abrahamovich should buy a sister club for Chelsea, like Udinese owner bought Watford, and loan his players to that club.

    A good XI can easily be formed by the players Chelsea loan out every year, and they would feel nice playing with teammates.

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  3. Tommytour
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Captains for first 3 GWs?

    1 - Bale cpl
    2 - Aguero car / Bale SWA
    3 - Aguero HUL

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Chelsea player if GW1 DGW.
      Anyway, things will change. We'll see whether Aguero or Negredo plays up front.

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  4. si
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Got my beady eye on Ross Barkley at £4.5m. Think he could break the first team this season. Was excellent at Arsenal this year, very attacking and I feel he could thrive under Martinez. Any further insight on young Ross around? I noticed he didn't feature in their win at Accrington so I am be flogging a dead horse here.

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Same here - keeping a close eye on pre-season team news. Could be a steal - surprised he's not mentioned in this article

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  5. abboudig
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    First time poster/player, long time reader user needing helping, advice on a RMT

    Boruc/Mannone

    Enrique/Mertesacker/Clyne/B.Turner/Coleman

    Cazorla/Mata/Bale/Snodgrass/Bellamy

    Kone/Berbatov/RVW

    Unsure on the forward line but midfield seems to offer better options, how do the fixtures rotate for defensive options?

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    1. Monklane
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Welcome.

      It looks good. Truth is, the defenders don't rotate well at all and it's a problem we're all having to face.

      I wish you well.

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      1. Tommytour
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        With the amount he has spent I doubt he will be rotating

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    2. Twelve years a slave
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Go for it , dont let anyone put you off your selections.

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Bellamy 5.5M for bench folder is too expesive-downgrade to thomas

      you dont need both wolf and sonoddy

      you can also downgrade caz to waally nad mata to hazard and buy sturridge

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    4. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Downgrade Clyne to a 4.0. You will anyway play Enrique, Mertesacker and Coleman every week.
      I won't spend 5.5 on a fifth midfielder like Bellamy, not nailed-on enough. Go for Thomas at 4.5

      Use that 1.5m from the three downgrades to do Berbatov to Sturridge.

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    5. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Decent 15. Maybe downgrade Metersacker or Enrique, there's a few decent 4.5 defenders and upgrade Snodgrass. Bellamy might be nailed-on.

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  6. si
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Ashley Young could be a real steal at £7.5m. If fit he has to play in the current squad. New signings may change this though.

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Zaha, Valencia, Kagawa, Nani, Young, Welbeck. Look at the number of guys who can play on the wing. Too much rotation.

      Anyway, he is injured and will probably miss the start of the season.

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  7. Join 114139-33165 !!! The u…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Guys any changes required here

    Mignolet /Boruc
    Azpl / Rat / coleman/ chester / baker
    Haz/ coutinho/Bale /ramirez/koren
    Sturidg/ Giroud / Berba

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    1. Emp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      no point having boruc if u have mignolet i would downgrade to 4.0 keeper , bank the 0.5 and play minger every week. I would also stay away from azpi as he not nailed on and due to not play GW3. Zabaleta would be ideal switch there. I would also downgrade koren to thomas as you not planning to play either except off the bench in any case and they are much of a muchness. Then use the extra 1 point from those two downgrades to upgrade a defender.

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  8. Twelve years a slave
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    With RMTs unless someone selects an injured or suspended player etc then it seems rude to try to tell them to get the players YOU like

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Would you not tell somebody if his team has Sigurdsson? 😉

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        No , they would work it out for themselves

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        1. Saniul
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Just kidding. Yeah, you have a point.

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        2. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          How would they work it out for themselves? I think we are better giving our views and it's up to them whether they change or not.

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          1. Desertbug
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Problem is, very few people give a view. They just say "swap X for Y" or when asked for thoughts on A vs B, they say "C". That kind of input is not helpful to the person asking because it is just an opinion of the type TL comments on above. I think views would be welcome if accompanied by rationale.

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    2. ted mcnure
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Couldn't agree more-
      as the great Groucho Marx said
      "Cut the cackle, and let's hit the victuals!"
      Game week 1 is a long way off.... sigh...

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  9. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    i am really happy with my 4 big defenders at this moment

    i know that this is unussual taktic and i was big fan of ubercheap last season but now i wanna try something new

    Ming

    Luiz , Nasty , Kolsh

    Mirallas , Walcott , Bale , Hazard

    Sturridge , Wolf , Rodrigez

    know that i posted RMT at last page , but i am very happy with looks of my team at this moment

    Luiz is there cause of possible dgw1

    by deadline and after i came back from hollidays i will probably change my opinion again

    i wonder why i dont see more teams with big defence?

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I have Nastasic and Koscielny.
      Don't like the look of Luiz.

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      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Surely you don't mean Luiz can't defend ? 😉

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        1. Saniul
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I rate him highly.
          Just that I don't think he will be absolutely nailed-on.

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          1. gdog2244
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            agreed

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          2. GreennRed
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            He's inconsistent for me. Can take a class free kick or knock a 50 yard pass to a man on the run but can do equally shite on either. He's no centre half in the Vidic or Terry mould coming out with a commanding clearing header or standing up a forward showing him down the channels. I think he's a product of todays football standards, many think that a player making a spectacular last ditch tackle is a great defender when it's actually showing more about his defensive inadequacy.

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    2. gdog2244
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      i think b/c the cost of rvp and bale it doesnt leave space for big hitting defenders

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  10. gdog2244
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    GK:Boruc, speroni
    DEF:Chester, Parr, collins, Turner, Coleman
    MID:Bale, Thomas, Walcott, Hazard, snoddy
    ATT:RVP, kone, Rodriguez

    any changes?

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    1. Mr. Greedy
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Love the bargain basement defence to accommodate RVP, Bale, Walcott and Hazard. This has inspired me to have another go and fitting it the all the big guns again.

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      1. si
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I have RVP, Bale, Walcott, Kun and Mirallas at present. Sylvan Marveux (vc).

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    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Good side.
      Which Turner, Burner or Murner ? Downgrade Kone to Van Winkle or Aspas or similar and upgrade Snodgrass.

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      1. gdog2244
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        m turner thx forthe replies guys

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  11. abboudig
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Which 4.0 million defenders are nailed on to start though? any good suggestions on 4.5 million defenders, I think Bellamy may be more than bench fodder, there are games he'd play above Snoddy, RVW or Kone in.

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm not buying any 4.0m defenders, don't rate them.
      There are many 4.5 defenders. Clyne, Collins and Turner have good fixtures.

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    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ben "Burner" Turner looks a good bet. Gets the odd goal too. 🙂

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    3. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      chester, turner, perhaps ward, mcshane

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    4. gdog2244
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      parr

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  12. Baines v Mirallas
    FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Baines vs Mirallas

    -both cost same
    -Baines could get extra pts for possible CS
    -Baines it at all set pieces
    -under new system he could be even more dangerous

    so even if he cost 7.5 he could be real steal if you compare that Everton the best MF option cost the same money as Baines

    7.5M for defender always put me off but i am looking with different perspective now and i might take a gamble and start season with Baines

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    1. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      great point +1

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    2. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Thinking the same. But the fact that Coleman is priced a big 2.5m less puts me off.
      You know how frustrating a Baines 2-pointer can be.

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    3. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm tempted as well . Vert is very tempting too. The bonus system loves vert's style of play.

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    4. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      You should go Luiz Miraalas > Baines Snoddy

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        just did those transfers actually 😀

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        1. Twelve years a slave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Everton will turn into wigan , a team who conceded the most goals in the league , the 343 wont work in premier league

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          1. ccc
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            😆 I think may switch back now 🙁

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          2. Desertbug
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Won't? or Hasn't?

            Has it really been tried by any squads that have personnel to do it justice? Honest question because I don't know, and I'm certainly not saying that Everton necessarily has the personnel to do it properly, but just because Wigan couldn't do it, doesn't mean it can't work...

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            1. Mr. Greedy
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Man City tried it at the beginning of last season but it failed.

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              1. Desertbug
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                Failed?
                Through the start of December last year, (15 matches), they had six wins and two draws at home (drew Arsenal and bogey team Everton) out of eight matches. Their seven road matches yielded three wins and four draws (at Liverpool, at Chelsea, and at two places that were hard for anybody to get results ..West Ham and Stoke)

                Not sure that 9 wins and 6 draws out of 15 matches is "failed"

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                1. Mr. Greedy
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 9 months ago

                  Yeah but they didn't play 3-4-3 in all those matches did they. They played it preseason as an alternative formation but whenever Mancini tried it in competitive matches they looked rubbish and it was quietly dropped.

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                  1. Desertbug
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 9 months ago

                    No, I know, they didn't play it all of the time. I'm not sure that they gave it an adequate chance though. Maybe? I just don't think we really know if it is possible or not, but I don't see why it couldn't be.

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                    1. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      10 years, 9 months ago

                      Often they played it in the second half. They often switched formations during a game for tactical reasons.

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            2. A.T
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Napoli did it very well apparently

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          3. Sob or lie?
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            I agree TL, Baines is high risk this year. New manager, new formation, particularly early on there is a good chance they will ships some early goals while they sort out the way to play under the new regime.

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          4. OShaughnessy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            EVE only had 11 CS vs. WIgans 5.

            Surely EVE can manage 7 or 8 CS this year with the calibre of player they have.

            Taking this into account Baines loses 12 pts or so & this still makes him a 160pt plus player...

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    5. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Baines to Utd and not on free kicks and pennos anymore!

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      1. foppaldo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Outside the original topic, but Why would Baines not get a share of penalties at Utd? RvP hasn't been that great at them and Moyes would have complete trust in him.

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        1. CarelessGenius©
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Try prising them from rvp's dead hands......

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    6. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      This has now completely put me off Mirallas. Baines is indeed a better bet.

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    7. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Budget Defenders cost 4.5
      Budget Midfielders cost up to 5.5

      They do not cost the same.

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    8. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Some people Baines outscored last year (& most probably over the past 3 years) in no particular order:

      Lampard
      Nolan
      Silva
      Berbatov
      Fellaini
      Yaya Toure
      Benteke
      Snodgrass
      Ben Arfa
      Kagawa
      Mirallas

      If we could buy a forward / midfielder for 7.5mil who averaged 160pts a year we'd do it in a heartbeat!

      Why do we let the stigma of "defender" affect buying a player of his fantasy calibre?

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Because Demel and Nolan outscored Baines and Kacaklinic by quite some way

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        1. OShaughnessy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Sir, please don't cherry pick stats. Its hardly fair in this or any instance.

          Further, Nolan netted us 149pts & Demel grabbed 91. Totalling 240.

          In contrast, Banies garnered us 177pts & Kacaklinic 78. Totalling 255.

          Hmm... Care to find a different pair to support your claim?

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          1. Phaze 1
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Nolan and Demel cost 10 mil. Baines and kacak cost 12 so ur paying for the extra. 2 mil is alot to find in ff

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            1. OShaughnessy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              I see your point. I truly do. Budget allocation is paramount.

              That said, it is hardly fair to cherry pick Kacaniklic who played half of Demel's minutes last year.

              There are plenty of 4.5mil mids who can contribute solid minutes & score in excess of 100pts in a season:
              Mulumbu WBA, Thomas CPL, Johnson NOR, Dyer SWA etc...

              Moreover, I still feel this is clouding the issue...
              Our 5th mid / 5th defender rarely plays, are aprox. the same price, contribute little to our overall % of total points & therefore needn't be used in this comparison.

              We should be comparing "like to like" & therefore we see Baines as a superior option.

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              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                Pick whichever 4.5 mid you want. Kaca was just the first which came to my mind.

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              2. Ginkapo FPL
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                I agree about like for like though.

                Mirralas should even enter our minds, completely different entities.

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                1. Ginkapo FPL
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 9 months ago

                  *Mirallas versus baines shouldnt...

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                  1. OShaughnessy
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    10 years, 9 months ago

                    Happy we're having a constructive chat...
                    Happens so few times on the interwebs. TY sir.

                    Anyway, seen a lot about PPM in the Community Round Up & it got me to thinking about our:
                    Baines + Cheap Mid v.Mirallias + Cheap Def again.

                    Honestly, can we even assess players in groups of 2?
                    Everyone of our teams is unique.
                    All of us will deal with some give & take; ebb & flow...

                    What's to say I shouldn't start a 6mil fwd rather than a 7mil fwd to accommodate Baines, Mirallias or both for that matter.

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                    1. Ginkapo FPL
                      • 12 Years
                      10 years, 9 months ago

                      It speaks of the bigger debate going on at the moment on here. How can we judge each position seperately whilst also accounting for the inherent differences between them? I quite like the VORP method, but it cannot be based on last seasons points imo.

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    9. A.T
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Don't be surprised to see mirallas take over free kicks from Baines.

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  13. Saniul
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Am I the only one who has Wilfried Bony in his team?

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    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I don't but almost 15% have.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Baker has 18% ownership, that hardly says anything.
        Don't think he is a popular pick among the FFS chaps.

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        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Baker has 18% because he's cheap. He's a decent player though and well worth it if he's nailed-on. I'm expecting Villa to be decent this year. Some good young players who'll have been galvanised after staying up last season.

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    2. Just A Hat
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Bony was going to be my main striker but I downgraded him to Berbatov 🙁

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    3. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He still hasn't completed his move to Swansea yet. Work permit hasn't been approved. He is still training with his old club.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1503628?cc=3436 I would avoid Bony at this stage.

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    4. CarelessGenius©
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Swans tough fixtures too.....

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  14. si
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    If Mirallas is now being touted as OOP by everyone then half of the listed midfielders are OOP too.

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No, all teams won't play a 3-5-2, Everton might.
      Again, Mirallas and Coleman are potential OOPs, we've to wait till the start of the season.

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      1. si
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Martinez employer 3-4-3 last season? Mirallas would be right of a front 3, pretty much where he was last season and the same attacking threat as many FPL mids playing off/behind a single frontman. Routledge. In.

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    2. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      It makes me laugh people saying Mirallas shouldn't be classed as a forward, now he is classed as a midfielder, people call him a forward!

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      1. ccc
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        😆 good point

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      2. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Well he is an attacking mid, who plays right up there as does a host of players Mata, Silva to name but a few. I would class him as a foward but not as a striker.

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        1. jimski
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Is he actually that good though? I don't remember the points flying his way last season.

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    3. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He isn't OOP he is simply no longer a reverse OOP.

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  15. the_cooler_king
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Migolet,Marshall

    Baines, mert, bassong,Williams (swan), clyne
    Bale,Oscar,Morrison,michu,kacankillic,
    Lambert,sturridge ,graham (sun)

    Rmt any advice would be greatly appreciated

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    1. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Way too much money at the back

      Like the Oscar and Michu picks

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      1. the_cooler_king
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Mmm I expect Oscar will break out this season.

        Think your right abit to much at the back and use it to upgrade graham

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        1. Crouch Potato!
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Perhaps, however can't see him outscoring Mata or Hazard. Removing Graham would be a wise move imo.

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    2. Kim Philby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Graham plays for Hull.
      Just signed with them.

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  16. abboudig
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Taken out Mertesacker and Enrique and put in Collins and M.Turner

    It's allowed me to have Sturridge and Bony instead of Berbatov+RVW

    New 15 is

    Boruc/Mannone

    Coleman/Collins/B.Turner/M.Turner/Clyne

    Snodgrass/Bellamy/Bale/Mata/Cazorla

    Bony/Sturridge/Kone

    Too attacking or that's where the points are?

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    1. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure about Bony, but could pay off. Not a fan of Bellamy. Looks good though. I'd downgrade Mata > Hazard or Caz > Walcott, and switch Boruc/Mannone > Migs and 4.0 GK.

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  17. ccc
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Hmm thinking about this squad:
    Mig
    Baines - Collins - M'biwa
    Bale - Hazard - Snodgrass - Thomas
    RVP - Sturridge - JRod

    Subs: Davis, Quinn, Turner, Chester

    I know Davis will not play. Based on Forca's thinking, perhaps Baines is a better/safer bet than the equally priced Mirallas, however, I would need to play Thomas or Quinn every week which would not exciting. What do you think?

    My old draft
    Mig - Davis
    Collins - M'biwa - Clyne - B. Turner - Chester
    Bale - Hazard - Mirallas - Snodgrass - Thomas
    RVP - Sturridge - JRod

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      chelsea dgw might change the whole thing 😉

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        and you have Bale RVP and Baines 😯
        unbalance?

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  18. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Which team do you think will get a penalty in GW1?

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Man U. Via Young of course.

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  19. Just A Hat
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I hope Ben Arfa does well this season, he always seems to be in my GW1 team

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  20. Heartbreak
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I know there are no 4m 'keepers who are first choice but who is the most likely (however unlikely) to get some playing time?
    Who is waiting in line behind the biggest injury risk or thin-ice-skater?

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  21. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Monreal or Gibbs?

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Neither - Mert if you want Arsenal defender

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  22. bangers and M*A*S*H
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    RVP or no RVP

    Opt A:

    Boruc/Davis
    Colllins / B.Turner / M.Turner/ Yanga-Mbiwa/Chester
    Bale/Hazard/Coutinho/Walcott/Cole
    Fryatt/JRod/RVP

    Opt B

    Boruc/Davis
    Collins/M.Turner/Chester/Toure/Mertesacker
    Bale/Hazard/Coutinho/Walcott/Snodgrass
    JRod/Giroud/Van Wolf

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  23. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this team? If NO DGW

    Mignolet
    Clichy - Collins - Clyne
    Hazard - Walcott - Silva - Mirallas - Giggs
    Aguero - Aspas

    Bench: Boruc - Chicarito, Turner, Chester

    ?/10

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    1. Mr. Greedy
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Chico could be inspired if Rooney goes.

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      1. Mr. Greedy
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Wouldn't bother with Giggsy though.

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      2. Jude Rooney
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Why bench him though?

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    2. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      lol giggs 7/10

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      1. CarelessGenius©
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I like the giggsy angle - when he plays he scores high. If he don't play, Pea from the bench.

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        1. SuperOsçarBaby
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          if both don't play, turner come on

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    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      You just ain't letting go of Aspas hey?

      😕

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        any other options for liverpool other than sturridge?
        gerrard or coutinho cannot fit them in my mid.
        he looks like the best option and cheap

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I'm not sold on livp.

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            And Silva AND Kun?

            No no.

            Bale.

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            1. SuperOsçarBaby
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              MNF, car then HUL...

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          2. SuperOsçarBaby
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            lol

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  24. Mr. Greedy
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    The best players to have in FPL are the ones that dominate scoring for their clubs - RVP, Bale, Lambert, Berbatov, Michu, Snodders, Suarez, etc as when their team scores there is a good chance they'll have been involved. Who is going to dominate the scoring for the promoted clubs though?

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      That's assuming they will score. QPR last year.

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      1. Jude Rooney
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        QPR weren't a promoted club last year

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        1. CarelessGenius©
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Played like one though.....

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          1. Jude Rooney
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            True!

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          2. Crouch Potato!
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            That statement makes no sense, only one promoted club in past 2 seasons have got relegated, which indicates that playing like a promoted club is a positive.

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            1. CarelessGenius©
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Promoted clubs don't usually finish too high in the table, and this is mainly because they don't score so many goals, ergo "playing like a promoted club" is an apt statement in this context. Admittedly, Swansea being the exception.

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    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I can't see anyone.

      Murray would have been my bet if he wasn't injured.

      Remy would have been a good buy for the promoted clubs.

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    3. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I fancy Koren will have a big say at Hull. Likewise Cornelius for Cardiff.

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  25. chambers
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Any improvements?
    Mignolet, Boruc
    Nastasic, Koscielny, Turner(nor), Clyne, Chester
    Bale, Walcott, Mirralas, Snodgrass, Brady
    Aguero, Sturridge, Cornelius

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  26. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I trust all our Kiwi friends are ok after the 6.5 magn earthquake in NZ?

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Nothing felt in Auckland. So far no reported injuries/deaths. Central NZ took a real hit with this one though.

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  27. hixen
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone else getting Ruiz? I know many will take Berba instead, but I think (know) he will get more points then Berba. 3 of 3 goals, pre-season.

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    1. Just A Hat
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I can't imagine him getting more points then Berba but he should do well

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    2. Mr. Greedy
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Berbs doesn't strike me as a preseason kinda guy though.

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  28. abboudig
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Any improvements on this team

    Mignolet Davis

    Riether(?) Mertesacker Coleman M.Turner Clyne

    Thomas Bale Mata Snodgrass Cazorla

    Kone Bony Berbatov

    Still unsure about the defence, any good 5.5 options to maybe swap Clyne and Reither for 5.5 and B.Turner?

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm keeping an eye on the City situation - Richards could be a steal at 5.5 if he's a starter which IMO he should be if fit.

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      1. CarelessGenius©
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Zaba? Isn't he Pele's best mate?

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        1. Jude Rooney
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Couple of options Richards at centre half or Zab to left back

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          1. CarelessGenius©
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Nasty & Kompany centre backs, I would have thought.

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    2. CarelessGenius©
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No Man U cover.
      Got to have someone from the team that (usually) scores the most goals.

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      1. Mr. Greedy
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        RVP or nothing imo.

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        1. CarelessGenius©
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          That's why he's in my team.

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  29. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I placed four EW bets on the Open... Could be opening up a lovely bottle of red later.. Also my 4-0 on the Ashes is looking good... one match will be drawn I am sure...

    Bubba at 66-1, Rory at 20-1 -

    Mickelson at 25/1, Westwood at 14/1 (placed half way through day 1)

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    1. Mr. Greedy
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Love the ashes bet, one match is bound to be a rain induced draw.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        this was my thinking...

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  30. jimski
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I get the feeling Everton might seriously struggle this season. Martinez gets plaudits, but more for style of play than anything else. If he tries to turn Everton into Wigan (e.g. signing half their squad), he will get Wigan-like results. I suspect Moyes' absence will be keenly felt.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yes. I am worried about this too.

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    2. CarelessGenius©
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Also, Wigan couldn't keep a cleanie for (ha) toffee under Martinez.

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