Dugout Discussion

Dugout Discussion – Monday

The Gameweek concludes with a clash of the titans. The first “humdinging” encounter of the season finds Man United host Jose Mourinho’s Chelsea, handing David Moyes a huge test in his first Premier League match in front of the Old Trafford faithful.

In Fantasy terms, our focus will be on Robin van Persie after he started the season in devastating style with a brace at the Liberty Stadium. With thousands backing the Dutchman with the armband and ownership of Chelsea’s assets still high after their double Gameweek, tonight’s outcome could provide the catalyst for a big mini-league swing.

The team news is in and, once again, there’s a couple of surprises in store.

Wayne Rooney starts for the hosts in the only change from the team that swept aside Swansea at the Liberty in Gameweek 1. Ryan Giggs drops out for the former Everton man, who is likely to line up on the left, with Danny Welbeck tucking in behind Robin Van Persie and Antonio Valencia out wide on the right.

Jose Mourinho names nine of the same XI that started against Villa last Wednesday evening. Juan Mata makes way for Kevin De Bruyne on the right, while Demba Ba is replaced by summer signing Andre Schurrle as the visitors line up without a recognised striker in their ranks – Romelu Lukaku once again misses out for the third match in a row, with Ba left out of the squad completely.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will be available throughout this evening’s match.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Large Hardon Colluder
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Bonii - Vidic 3, Cahill, Cole, Ferdinand, Terry,Evra 2 points

    As bizarre as that might seem, this is true I believe

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      kind of like it. a 0-0 where both defences played well

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      1. get_in
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Only gripe I have with it is that attacking players that put in a decent performance are undervalued - I think 1bp for Rooney is ridiculous, and likewise 3 for Oscar who I thought was excellent.

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          watch rooney's long range shot after about 70mins, he passes up the easiest through ball to put rvp through on goal for a 30 yarder straight at cech. just one example of a hugely overrated performance

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          1. get_in
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            That's a fair point, but my problem is that the defence get high baps regardless of whether its a fairly hard fought draw, or a game of midfield tit for tat with few touches inside the box. Some of rooney's defensive work was excellent but the system seems to punish you for playing outside of your category.

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          2. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            he did it three times in the match...

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    2. Feanor
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Kind of ridiculous, but nevermind.

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  2. copps
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    bye hazard
    hello whittingham

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    1. lazybones18
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      dont do it

      hazard will give a lot of points .. i think he is a season keeper

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Not even for Silva?

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    2. P&F
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      no get gunnerson

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      1. copps
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        i like that whit has all the fks, corners, pens etc

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        1. P&F
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          could go brady then hes now an oop as well

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    3. Touré De Force
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Did that exact transfer yesterday. Starting Kim and Whitt v Everton.

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  3. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Man U were crying out for a player who can make the incisive pass and Kagawa is the best player they have for that (Rooney can too but he ain't passing to RVP that's for sure) but Moyes plays Old Man Giggs instead.

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    1. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      You spotted that as well did you ?...three times he blanked him...

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      1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, I think Rooney wants to prove he should be the main man at United, not RVP.

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  4. FF Dirtbag
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Is it worth Hazard out for a hit? And to who?

    Already got Walcott, silva, mirallas and r.morrison

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    1. copps
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      coutinho imo

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      1. Sᴄʜᴜ̈RRʟᴇ ⓝ
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        GW4

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    2. lazybones18
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      KEEP HAZARDDDDDDDDDDDDDD !!!!!!

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    3. FF Dirtbag
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Maybe michu?? For a hit? Worth it?

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  5. Jimmers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone for MOTD2 at 10.30? 😉

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      well done, I'd forgotten about that

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    2. Namtab Nomolos
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I bet it's the last match on

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    3. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Not likely.

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  6. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Whoooosh!!

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  7. Oldman Unathletic
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Give Rooney the 3 Baps and be done with it.

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    1. Sleep Talk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      He was immense.

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  8. In Tommy We Trust
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Oscar looking good even in a bad game. Check the stats 😉

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    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Don't Tommy - I have to sell him tonight! 🙁

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    2. The3rdTurd
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Rooney had more shots 😉

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Indeed 3rd. Would block Oscar right off if he got on the coach tonight

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    3. 1justlookin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      great player. think he'll keep his place?

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Yep just where on the pitch will be key

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  9. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Does anyone reckon Valencia will start next week? Got plenty of opportunities but his delivering was woeful. Willing to take a punt on him if his place is secure...

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  10. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    actual bp calculation anyone?

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      vidic 3
      5 defenders with 2

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    2. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      All the defenders get 3 points because the new Bps system is shit.

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I think it's fair enough, defenders dominated. I still don't agree with giving out so many though. they shouldn't give any to a player who hasn't scored 10 bps.

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        1. Oldman Unathletic
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          You know its wrong Granny - brake from your FFS shackles and preach.

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        2. Esalman
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          I'd like to see how bps looks if only passes completed in opponent's half are taken into consideration.

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          1. Oldman Unathletic
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Exactly.

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    3. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Vidic 3
      Ferdinad, Evra, Cahill, Cole, Terry 2

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        what about ivanovic?

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        1. crystalpalaceRus
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          go look...

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  11. Djerbil
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Hazard-> Michu tomorrow night after watching Theo get through Fernabache unscathed

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    1. DelPuich
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      whats your overall rank. thinking of doing the same thing

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      1. Djerbil
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        on 216k before tonight's game

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  12. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Shame I didn't o with my gut feel of Baines Captain, best score of 9. 39 pts total

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  13. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    What a load of sh*t that was. Well rejoice everybody in Mourinho's crap brand of football bet you're happy he's back with that sh*tfest. W*nkers.

    RVP's blank is over, be afraid from now in.

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    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      RVP still not worth price tag

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    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      😆

      Umad?

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    3. Willis.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      lol fumes

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    4. Torreslove
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Early in the season and a match neither manager could afford to lose. What else did you expect? Clearly you have no football IQ. The reverse fixture will be more attacking because it will be a match both teams will have to win to keep ahead in the title race.

      Mourinho will play with a similar strategy (not wanting to lose) against city and arsenal too. Do you even know how Mourinho works mate? Clearly not.....

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  14. Alexieishere
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    making fun of my friend because he has chamakh on his bench, turn out my decision to bench cashley and cech isn't 🙁

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  15. Baa
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Now I can do Hazard to Silva and Ivan to Collins without worries one of them might explode 🙂

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  16. Sleep Talk
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Worth a -4 hit to do Coutinho to Silva and Rat to a starting defender?

    (Can't do the Silva transfer alone, and if Rat doesn't start I'll e playing Brayford/Toure)

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  17. Nopli -The Banned One (Solo…
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    RVP Over-priced and Over-rated. There i said it .

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    1. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No he isn't. Utd are - RVP is stuck with a bag of w@nk to carry on his shoulders like at Arsenal.

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    2. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Already done Rvp -> Campbell

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      1. Lanley Staurel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        First person on this site Ive heard say they've sold RVP!

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  18. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Small gust of wind created by the collective phewing from non- Rvp owners tonight .

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    1. Sleep Talk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      As a United-supporter and a non-owner I would still have appreciated a goal there. 😉

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I was never worried. It's RVP owners who should be sweating every match. He has to score to justify the outlay.

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      1. The3rdTurd
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        On average he has to score. 2 goals last match means he is still achieving this.

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    3. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      More like a tsunami...

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  19. crystalpalaceRus
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    hazard>nolan ?

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    1. copps
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      yes

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    2. Feanor
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I'm considering it.

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  20. Michael Jordan - call me MJ
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    1. Hazard + Benteke -> Nolan + Aguero (C) 4pts

    Or

    2. Hazard -> Silva (C)

    Going to WC post GW3 to get RVP and some more CBs

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    1. Liastro ⭐️
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      2

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  21. flying scotsman
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I can actually hear fireworks where i live. think they're celebrating the rvp blank...

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  22. fdotman
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    doing Hazard -> Silva, should i do Brayford -> Collins for a hit? the alternative is starting Chester at home to Man City

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  23. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Chelsea had 8 touches in the box tonight. The lowest of any side this weekend.

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      3 chelsea defs while Mouinho keeps playing like this

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    2. Chrissy Waddle - 2023/24
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      It's called the Jose way.

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    3. Oldman Unathletic
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Hundreds of millions of pounds well spent.

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  24. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Has anybody noticed the amount of time defenders are taking passing across the back four these days ?...Are we going back to the seventies ?....One of the best parts of Blackburn's glory days (?) was Kenny demanding the ball moved forward as quickly as possible...Happy days...(applies to United of the same era as well, amongst others...)

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  25. Bielsa's Bucket
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    So is anyone keeping Hazard?

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    1. lazybones18
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      i am keeping him.. but i already have silva and walcott

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    2. Bad Pen
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      He's honestly not impressed me in the games I've watched, Mou has him doing defensive duties and it's killing his attacking potential.

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    3. In Tommy We Trust
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Nothing rash tonight as long as the casuals don't go nuts in the next few hours

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    4. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Me!

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    5. Ole Gunnar Kush
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      keeping for now

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  26. jurgenizer | TRIPEIROS
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Hazard -> Michu for me...

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  27. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    best mid to transfer hazard to for 1 week? Already have Silva and Walcott.

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    1. Raul Seleccion
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      coutinho

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  28. Indalo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    BONUS POINTS

    3 Points (13 BPS): Vidic
    2 Points (9 BPS): Cahill Cole Ferdinand Terry Evra

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  29. Sánchez
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    That'll do just nicely. Rvp blank. Maybe stop his price rise? Maybe? Hopefully. 🙂

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  30. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Rvp to drop 0.6 tonight alone

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