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Versus – Ramsey and Barkley

With five weeks of the season now behind us, Arsenal’s Aaron Ramsey and Everton’s Ross Barkley have been two of the biggest success stories thus far. Racking up 32 points and 25 points respectively in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game, the duo’s displays, allied with their mid-price appeal, continues to tempt huge numbers of new owners.

Drafted in by over 510,000 managers last week, Ramsey has already picked up over 144,000 transfers in since Saturday’s deadline and with 31% ownership, is now the most popular midfielder in the game. Barkley is not far behind – now residing in 27% of teams, the Toffees youngster is third in terms of midfield ownership, with only City’s Yaya Toure separating the pair.

With Fantasy managers looking for ways to free up cash to acquire the returning Luis Suarez, we take a look at the pair’s performances over the first five Gameweeks so far to ascertain just what sort of an impact they’ve been making on the field of play:

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  1. myboycharlie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    2 years, 7 months ago

    Walcott >

    A) Michu
    B) Ramsey (already hav giroud)
    C) Eriksen (Hav no spurs coverage)

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      2 years, 7 months ago

      A or Ozil if you can stretch to that (without a hit).

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      1. myboycharlie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        2 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers cant stretch to Ozil w/o a hit short .3

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  2. EdenoftheEast
      2 years, 7 months ago

      If Theo misses the international games,it'll be real blessing fir Arsenal. International games don't go well for him.

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    • tazri
        2 years, 7 months ago

        ok guys just one question

        who to bench? oscar (tot) eriksen (CHE) moses (sun)

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        1. Crazy Old Goat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Eriksen

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        2. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 years, 7 months ago

          Moses

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        3. gedda
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          2 years, 7 months ago

          I want your issues.

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        4. el trompo
            2 years, 7 months ago

            moses

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        5. Bambi
            2 years, 7 months ago

            would you wildcard if you have:

            Benteke
            Soldado
            Walcott
            Kim
            Murner
            Chester

            already used my FT in hazard --> Michu

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            1. Bemba_Da
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              2 years, 7 months ago

              I wildcarded last week and have 4 of those

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            2. Beavis
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              2 years, 7 months ago

              Yes I would.

              Ironically it's only been 2 weeks since I WCed and I've got Benteke, Walcott, Chester and RVP.

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          • Tonebone6759
              2 years, 7 months ago

              So after a couple of bad weeks and needed/wanting 5/6 players in/out I've wilcarded. Got potential double risers in for now to gain value. This is the team i'm looking at ending with

              Mignolet/4.0

              Baines, Dawson, Davies, Clyne, Wilson

              Ozile, Toure, Brady, Oscar, Barkley

              Sturridge, Rooney, Lukaka

              Is this good to go? No Michu is an issue - could downgrade clyne/wilson to $4.0 in order to fund Oscar to Michu - or straight swap for Toure. Or take Ravel instead of Barkley?

              Think i'm set but would appreciate any suggestions

              Thanks

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              1. myboycharlie
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                2 years, 7 months ago

                Toure > michu imo

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            • aehii
                2 years, 7 months ago

                Not enough gameweeks have passed to do this, and most high scoring players have played every minute, and some new signings only played a few games which skews in their favour, but anyway.

                mins per point after 5 matches

                Lamela..........7.33333333333
                Ozil ..............7.9
                Lukaku .........9.55555555556
                Negredo .......10.0416666667
                Aguero .........10.303030303
                Baines .........10.7142857143
                Nasri ............10.8695652174
                Giroud ..........11.3684210526
                Siggurdson.....11.4782608696
                Rooney .........12.4166666667
                Mignolet .......12.5
                Lovren ..........12.8571428571
                Yaya Toure.....13.2352941176
                Benteke ........13.3448275862
                Ramsey ........13.6363636364
                Oscar ...........13.6785714286
                Silva .............13.8235294118
                Vertonghen....14.0625
                Terry .............14.0625
                Sturridge .......14.5161290323
                Enrique..........14.5925925926
                Ben Arfa ........14.724137931
                Dezko ...........15.6428571429
                Eriksen .........15.8
                Van Persie ....16.380952381
                Michu ...........16.6666666667
                Lampard .......17.5
                Barkley .........18
                Nolan.............18.2916666667
                Welbeck........18.3157894737
                Paulinho .......18.75
                Morrison .......18.9090909091
                Soldado.........20.6666666667
                Walcott..........23.8666666667
                Mirallas..........25.5
                Lambert.........28.3333333333
                Hazard...........29.6
                Coutinho .......31
                Mata..............40.3333333333

                mins per point 2012-2013 season

                10.3586956522 hernandez
                11.7309236948 bale
                11.7835051546 walcott
                11.9198473282 van persie
                12.6100628931 lukaka
                12.6666666667 sturridge
                12.6933333333 lampard
                12.8726415094 mata
                13.1857142857 coutinho
                13.5102040816 podolski
                13.6891891892 gervinho
                13.8210526316 hazard
                13.929245283 suarez
                14.0230769231 dzeko
                14.0839160839 rooney
                14.3939393939 terry
                15.1034482759 kagawa
                15.7789473684 michu
                15.8554216867 luiz
                16.1024390244 cazorla
                16.038961039 .siggurdson
                16.7165775401 lambert
                16.756302521 ..dempsey
                16.8432835821 jose enrique
                16.9759036145 benteke
                17.0816326531 silva
                17.4108108108 gerrard
                17.4478527607 berbatov
                17.9583333333 milner
                18.7008547009 agbonhalor
                19.03125 ........mirallas
                19.2644628099 giroud
                19.3220338983 baines
                19.3458646617 torres
                19.4435483871 defoe
                19.9932885906 nolan
                20.25 .............ben arfa
                20.5944055944 ivanovic
                20.0657894737 snodgrass
                20.8953488372 nasri
                20.9428571429 kone
                20.1851851852 j rodriquez
                21.3619047619 weimann
                21.3629032258 zabaleta
                21.6455696203 Hart
                22.0588235294 Szczesny
                22.1875 ..........Cech
                22.5 ..............vertonghen
                22.6971830986 johnson
                23.0578512397 ashley cole
                23.75 ............Begovic
                24.4285714286 mignolet
                24.5714285714 kompany
                26.6210526316 riise
                29.4951456311 garrido

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                1. Podge
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    Interesting thanks

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                2. THEJOKERreturns
                    2 years, 7 months ago

                    RMT guys. This is my WC team. 0.5 Mil in the bank.

                    Boruc Lewis
                    Dawson Davies(swa) Distin Turner(car) Gabbidon
                    Michu Yaya Ramsey Ozil Brady
                    Rooney Sturridge Giroud

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                    1. el trompo
                        2 years, 7 months ago

                        gk lewis to davis i would downgrade yaya and upgrade my defence

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                        1. THEJOKERreturns
                            2 years, 7 months ago

                            thanks . who would your pick be for MID and DEF then ?

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                      • cruzex
                          2 years, 7 months ago

                          what do i do with walcott and rvp?? omfg!!

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                          1. gedda
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            2 years, 7 months ago

                            haha, PANIC STATIONS!

                            We are all in the same boat. I have done a 4pt hit already and I still have 3 doubts ahead of the weekend. AND IT IS TUESDAY!

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                            1. cruzex
                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                lol true story...

                                i should sell Rvp, Walcott and Soldado...and buy Rooney, Ozil and Suarez...

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                            2. Shifty
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 years, 7 months ago

                              You were pretty confident earlier that RVP was gonna play, convincing others to keep. Goes to show you really can't be 100% sure and if not, shouldn't advise others as such mate.

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                          2. goonerbyron
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            2 years, 7 months ago

                            Right.. Going to be asked me a lot of people but Michu or Ozil ? (I have Giroud.)

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                            1. myboycharlie
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              2 years, 7 months ago

                              Have same problem thinking michu and get wally back after international break

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                            2. roscola
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                              2 years, 7 months ago

                              I've gone for Michu because of fixtures and form. Looks like similar points potential for £1.4m difference

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                            3. Gimli son of Gloin
                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                Ozil.. I went for Michu and kind of regret not taking the hit as I've realized it will be hard to get in Ozil now

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                              • Pat Bonner
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                Ozil this week and Michu next?

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                            4. Rukawa
                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                Walcott ot 2 weeks confirmed!
                                Walcott --> Michu (-4p) done!

                                Just wonder if Swansea play this midweek or no?

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                                1. Bemba_Da
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                  they play in league cup then league at weekend and europa next thursday

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                                  1. Bemba_Da
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                    actually no league cup

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                                    1. Spineless Weasel - FIFFSA 5…
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                      So no chance of a random Michu injury ala Kolo Toure?

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                                      1. Bemba_Da
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                        swansea fc website says

                                        birmingham v swansea wed
                                        swansea v arsenal sat
                                        Swansea v st gallen thu

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                                2. Lebanese Lalous
                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                    Check below!

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                                3. Spineless Weasel - FIFFSA 5…
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                  so I guess I'll just do Theo to Michu after the Swansea game, is it tonight?

                                  Already done Lampard and Tekkers to Ramsey and Rooney for free

                                  Really don't want to go -8 to lose RvP as well

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                                  1. Spineless Weasel - FIFFSA 5…
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                    Also, despite Giroud being the obvious replacement should I need to sell RvP, why I am drawn to getting Lukaku instead?

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                                  2. Rukawa
                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                      Hope he will be rested today

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                                      1. Spineless Weasel - FIFFSA 5…
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                        RvP is confirmed out tomorrow.

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                                        1. Rukawa
                                            2 years, 7 months ago

                                            I mentioned Michu

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                                            1. Spineless Weasel - FIFFSA 5…
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              2 years, 7 months ago

                                              oh Michu?

                                              yeah I think he will be

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                                    • Henry Hill
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                      With Theo ruled out for a few weeks is Gnabry possibly an option as a short term cheap midfielder (only 4.5) ❓

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                                      1. myboycharlie
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                        If on WC maybe if not just a waste of transfer

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                                      2. Spineless Weasel - FIFFSA 5…
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                        if Arteta is back could Wilshere not play there?

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                                      3. Wilshere Knowledge
                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                          Definitely! He is certainly favoured over Miyaichi, and we will want to play our skewed front 3. Very good player, and could get some points 😀

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                                      4. Lebanese Lalous
                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                          --------Theo update-------
                                          @SkySportsNews: Theo Walcott to have operation on abdomen & will miss England's World Cup qualifiers next month #SSN

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                                        • Koflok
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                          Walcott confirmed out for 2 weeks.

                                          So Walcott -> ?

                                          1. Ozil
                                          2. Oscar
                                          3. Eriksen

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                                          1. Lanley Staurel
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            2 years, 7 months ago

                                            Surgery suggests much longer than 2 weeks for me.

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                                          2. Rukawa
                                              2 years, 7 months ago

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                                            • myboycharlie
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              2 years, 7 months ago

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                                          3. Ridgewell's scores
                                              2 years, 7 months ago

                                              Transfer time

                                              TEAM:
                                              Migs, Lewis
                                              Zaba, Collins, Coleman, Dawson, Fonte
                                              Ramsey, Ozil, Moses, HBA, Eriksen
                                              Sturridge, Giroud, Benteke

                                              0,6 in bank, 1 FT

                                              What do you think about going -4 for a

                                              Benteke, HBA > Rooney, Barkley or Arnautović (dunno which one I should take)

                                              Any suggestions and help really appreciated!

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                                            • Del Monte
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              2 years, 7 months ago

                                              Very happy I did Theo > Yaya last night, first gamble of the season has paid off and caught the price rise

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                                            • Obi Wan Elokobi
                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                Really don't know what to do now with Walcott out do I take a 12 point hit as I have already taken an 8 point hit and if so for who already have michu can't afford Ozil :(

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                                                1. Jonty
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                                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                                  12 pt hits are rarely advisable. If you can get 11 out then leave him for a week.

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                                                  1. Obi Wan Elokobi
                                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                                      I can field 11 but then I have to put up with price drop for Walcott and will have to play Barkley and brady

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                                                2. Top Six Walcott Replacements
                                                  Jonty
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • Has Moderation Rights
                                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                                  If money is no option here are my top walcott replacements in order

                                                  Ozil
                                                  Michu
                                                  Oscar
                                                  Ramsey
                                                  Yaya Toure
                                                  Eriksen

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                                                  1. AP
                                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                                      Eriksen that low? Even with their fixtures? Hmmmmm.

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                                                      1. Jonty
                                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                        • Has Moderation Rights
                                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                                        Compared to the others yes....as Spurs aren't exactly banging them in at the moment. He's definitely a great option though. Sixth best midfielder to own in my opion.

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                                                      2. Dago
                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                          Agree he should be third or fourth.

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                                                      3. Doosra - A☭Noble☭Grape
                                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                                        😀 I have the top four!!!

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                                                      4. Lebanese Lalous
                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                          Wally and RvP to Ozil and Rooney for a -4 yay or ney?
                                                          I'm 0.1 short of Wally-->Ozil.

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                                                          1. Cesc's old mullet
                                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                            2 years, 7 months ago

                                                            that's exactly what I did.

                                                            It's reassuring to see that someone else is considering the same move

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                                                        • Rukawa
                                                            2 years, 7 months ago

                                                            agree but no place for HBA?
                                                            Golden Ball this year

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                                                          • Van Dal
                                                              2 years, 7 months ago

                                                              Ozil
                                                              Michu
                                                              Eriksen
                                                              Oscar
                                                              Ramsey
                                                              Yaya

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                                                            • Dago
                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                Eriksen above Ramsey imo.

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                                                              • Demí
                                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                I'm not sure Yaya Toure belongs in that list Jonty, especially above Eriksen. He's a DM who's got lucky with 2 free kicks and slack marking from a corner

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                                                                1. Doosra - A☭Noble☭Grape
                                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                  You still not getting box-to-box? 😉

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                                                                  1. Jonty
                                                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                    Quite right....new manager, new system..Yaya at last is now an option...you've waited a long time for this moment Doosra..enjoy it.

                                                                    Who knows...maybe Sidwell will be next in the credible def mid category? 😉

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                                                                2. Jonty
                                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                                                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                  I would have said that a few weeks back..but its time us old pros got into the new mindset of the 2013/14 season. Yaya is far more attacking this year and is suddenly a free kick maestro. Yes it looks like he gets lucky...but thing is, he's getting lucky alot so far and when that happens luck becomes skill.

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                                                              • Beavis
                                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                Ozil
                                                                Michu
                                                                Eriksen
                                                                Oscar
                                                                Ramsey
                                                                Toure

                                                                for me.

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                                                                1. Van Dal
                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                    so u just copied me then 😛

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                                                                    1. Beavis
                                                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                      Haha have an upvote then. Didn't actually see them.

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                                                                2. Lanley Staurel
                                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                  If you have Giroud already i would put Mich above Ozil.

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                                                                3. Athletico Timbo
                                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                  I'll probably be getting Ramsey or maybe Oscar.

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                                                                4. Arsene's Boys
                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                    Mine would be:

                                                                    Özil
                                                                    Michu
                                                                    Oscar
                                                                    Eriksen

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                                                                  • Alberto Tomba
                                                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                      Id pop Gerrard in there too, has both suarez and sturridge to feed and is playing sunderland this week.

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                                                                      1. Alberto Tomba
                                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                          ..With suarez back his penalties will go up too. Differential potential!

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                                                                      2. Sporta Sánchez
                                                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                        Ramsey for me as ut frees up funds to bolster dfence. Baines looks to good not to have, then theres Vidic, Terry, Zaba, Vert so I cant afford Micu, Eriksen, Oscar, Yaya as I;ve got Roo, Ratfface and Giroud up front!

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                                                                      3. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
                                                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                        Small Paul at 7.0 for spurs? I like his stats.

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                                                                      4. .
                                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                          Ozil
                                                                          Oscar
                                                                          Michu
                                                                          Arnautovic
                                                                          Lamela
                                                                          Mirallas

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                                                                      5. The King
                                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                          Michu or Ozil for Theo?

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                                                                          1. Jonty
                                                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                                                                            2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                            See above...Ozil for me, with Michu very close second.

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                                                                            1. The King
                                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                I agree with that top three mate, the bottom three could be in any order in my opinion. Thanks for the reply.

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                                                                              • Ziderarmy
                                                                                  2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                  Maybe Mata and Hazard will be back in vogue at some point...

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                                                                              • myboycharlie
                                                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                Leaning towards michu

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                                                                                1. The King
                                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                    His fixtures are so enticing, it's hard for me to ignore him.

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                                                                                2. Rukawa
                                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                    Ozil

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                                                                                3. Cravex
                                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                    cazorla is meant to be back the 28th though?

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                                                                                    1. Del Monte
                                                                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                      cazorla will be back after the international break

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                                                                                  • myboycharlie
                                                                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                    on the bright side we can all buy wally back for 9.0 in a few weeks 😀

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                                                                                  • Dago
                                                                                      2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                      Please help I really cant decide between Brady or Whittingham? Cheers.

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                                                                                      1. Doosra - A☭Noble☭Grape
                                                                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                        Brady. Whittingham is not good enough at this level, sadly.

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                                                                                      2. Van Dal
                                                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                          coin toss really

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                                                                                      3. yer old da
                                                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                          2 free transfers, worth an 8 point hit?

                                                                                          Walcott, Ward-Prowse, RVP and Benteke to Michu, Ramsey, Rooney and Suarez?

                                                                                          Can't bring myself to bring in Ozil at over £4m more than Ramsey, when it effectively means no Michu or Suarez. What say you?

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                                                                                        • Bambi
                                                                                            2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                            -8 point hit or wildcard?

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                                                                                            1. ccc
                                                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                -8 imo

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                                                                                            2. donaldducksnr
                                                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                A) 8.5 or under striker
                                                                                                B) 6.2 or under midfielder (not Ramsey, can be Barkley)
                                                                                                C) 7.2 or under midfielder (not Barkley, can be Ramsey)

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                                                                                                1. Captain Robert Hatch
                                                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                    Fun game, give me

                                                                                                    A) Lukaku
                                                                                                    B) Noble
                                                                                                    C) Sigurdsson

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                                                                                                2. aehii
                                                                                                    2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                    Christ, I have no team, at all. Like none. I've taken the 'must not take a hit' rule/challenge I've set for myself too far. Lost 0.4m on Eriksen, and now 0.2m and rising on Ozil. Taking a hit feels like losing now, it's never paid off for me. Maybe I should change my rule to 'can take hit if your player gets injured'. Because 3 of them are all out.

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                                                                                                    1. Captain Robert Hatch
                                                                                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                        I'm ok with 3-4 hits in the first 12 weeks, team value is nice come WC time

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                                                                                                        1. get_in
                                                                                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                          Yes, especially when the markets are as volatile as they are at the minute

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                                                                                                    2. Captain Robert Hatch
                                                                                                        2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                        Not that any of ya'll care, but my pals don't follow footy, so I come here form time to time. I'm doing

                                                                                                        Wally -> Brady (have (Özil) & Dzeko-> Rooney

                                                                                                        Leaves exact cash for Sturridge to Suarez should I feel the need after this week.

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                                                                                                      • tazri
                                                                                                          2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                          ok seeing as i didnt get a clear answer here is my front 8 and i need to bench one of them:

                                                                                                          oscar, moses, toure, eriksen, michu
                                                                                                          giroud, sturridge, lukaku

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                                                                                                          1. Van Dal
                                                                                                              2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                              dont want to help u incase you finish above me

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                                                                                                          2. Lateriser12
                                                                                                              2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                              -4 for Theo out definitely.

                                                                                                              Robin please please please be fit by Friday. Please.

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                                                                                                              1. Spineless Weasel - FIFFSA 5…
                                                                                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                +10000000

                                                                                                                Lukaku might be the guy I get, even though I'm currently Giroud-less

                                                                                                                I tried the RvP to Lukaku move just now. I could sell Chester to Baines and still have 4.6 left

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                                                                                                              2. Beavis
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                                                                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                So many injuries!

                                                                                                                I'm fortunate enough to have 2 FT so Theo and Benteke are definitely out of my team, just going to wait til Friday to see if RVP is a goner too for -4.

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                                                                                                            • Fabio's left pinky
                                                                                                                2 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                Arnautovic or Whittingham?

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