The Dugout Discussion – Saturday

As Luis Suarez continues to make football look easy, rendering Fantasy football a simple game in the process, we tot up another ridiculous points haul whilst turning attention to the day’s three o’clock kick-offs.

Six matches follow shortly, including Man United’s attempt to avoid the unthinkable – three consecutive home league defeats. They face shot-shy West Ham at Old Trafford, while the not so shot-shy City take a trip to take on Fulham at the Cottage, without the goal power of Sergio Aguero.

Stoke and Sunderland host Villa and Norwich respectively, while Palace look to continue their recent revival with a Selhurst Park clash with Newcastle. Managerless West Brom round things off as they take on Hull City at the Hawthorns.

Look to our Twitter feed for all the teamsheet news from these encounters, while our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains ajar for those partial to some real-time reaction.

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Strificus
10 years, 4 months ago
I need to free up money from my defense; as I'm always against the cap.

Who is a good cheap option who is nailed and has some decent fixtures ahead?

I'm dropping Fonte (and Lovren next week).

A) Turner
B) Chester

or.. do I forget about money and use the £5.2 for a better option? [who?]
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1. Strificus
  10 years, 4 months ago
  C) Other
  
  Those were just examples
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2. Puncheon Guly
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I've got both. Both get clean sheets every few weeks. Chester is so cheap and there's upheaval coming at Cardiff so I'd go for him.
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⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
10 years, 4 months ago
smarty pants correct - average is 31
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1. Raddy
  10 years, 4 months ago
  What was his figure for top 1k/10k?
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  1. Saint Domingo
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Average 54 for top 1-10K
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2. Scottys Army
  10 years, 4 months ago
  whats your score ?
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  1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    10 years, 4 months ago
    36
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    1. Scottys Army
      10 years, 4 months ago
      not bad how many left ?
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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        10 years, 4 months ago
        only 5
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3. Saint Domingo
  10 years, 4 months ago
  That guy is tremendous,how he works these averages out,i take my hat off to him.
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- DC -
10 years, 4 months ago
Quick poll:

A) GJohnson OUT - Sagna IN

or

B) Mignolet OUT - Krul IN

Thanks guys.
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1. @ocprodigy
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Sagna. Arsenal have some good fixtures upcoming again.
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  1. - DC -
    10 years, 4 months ago
    I'm leaning towards this. But will make sure to wait after MNF.
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2. Noisy Neighbour
  10 years, 4 months ago
  A, but I would go Koscielny over Sagna, or Mertesacker if you have the extra funds.
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  1. Puncheon Guly
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Agreed. Sagna is injury (and therefore rotation) prone.
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Thomass
10 years, 4 months ago
Can I just say but Breadbin you are getting annoying
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1. Scottys Army
  10 years, 4 months ago
  hes a smart ass ignore him is my advice
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2. Heydudes13
  10 years, 4 months ago
  This won't make matters any better.
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  1. Thomass
    10 years, 4 months ago
    I know î will just ignore him
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3. The Machine
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Ignore him Tom
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  1. Thomass
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Will do and can you call me Thomass not Tom
    Thanks
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    1. The Machine
      10 years, 4 months ago
      Ok Tom Hanks
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      1. The Machine
        10 years, 4 months ago
        I mean thanks
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        floydy_floyd
        10 years, 4 months ago
        Looooool
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4. Captain Shirokov
  10 years, 4 months ago
  He'll be on your case all the time now Tom.
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Kerrazy
10 years, 4 months ago
A)Colback>Whittingham

B)Rat>6.5m max??
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Pedram
10 years, 4 months ago
I will not buy Yaya Toure.
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1. Tiote on Peyote
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Good
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2. Evans
  10 years, 4 months ago
  As I've got silva
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3. white lightning
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Silva's the better option.
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Thomass
10 years, 4 months ago
The highest made 8 transfers 😯
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1. Noisy Neighbour
  10 years, 4 months ago
  And still has his wildcard!
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Scottys Army
10 years, 4 months ago
my GW rank 174 k

and i scored 61

tough school
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Evans
10 years, 4 months ago
61 pts with 5 left to play .....GW rank 176k 🙁
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1. Evans
  10 years, 4 months ago
  174k
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2. Heydudes13
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Wow, heart rendering. Stay strong fella'.
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  1. Evans
    10 years, 4 months ago
    I sense a hint if sarcasm 😉
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3. rohan
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I am on 66-4 with 79k Gw rank. How is this possible? 😕
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  1. Pedram
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Template teams are increasing.
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4. Lanley Staurel
  10 years, 4 months ago
  19,000
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FPL Daniel
10 years, 4 months ago
Is it time to sell Ramsey? I am tempted by that move. He is owned by 90% of active players. Have the money for upgrading to Walcott.

Hazard Wally Silva anyone?
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1. Heydudes13
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Sell Ramsey at your peril.
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2. Scottys Army
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Rambo is a season keeper
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  1. Qubit
    10 years, 4 months ago
    There really isnt such a thing. The only possible exception would be someone like Suarez at the moment.
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3. Evans
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I've got Oscar, silva and Walcott
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4. jmcclory123
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Could work, imagine the damage done if he continues his form though
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5. The Machine
  10 years, 4 months ago
  thought the Rooney debacle would have a positive effect
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6. Captain Shirokov
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Same very tempting, might do it.
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7. - DC -
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Ramsey aint stopped delivering though. Neither has Yaya. Ramsey has massive ownership. My ML leader benched Ramsey this week, everything has worked for him so far......and I mean everything!
  
  I'm hoping never bench Ramsey proves correct this week.
  
  To get Walcott in, I did the move from Ozil (and then spent the saved cash elsewhere) but I kept Ramsey and now have a midfield of -
  
  Walcott - Silva - Ramsey - Hazard
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  1. FPL Daniel
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Lads do you remember that perfect article from Clover about season of two halves? Now is GW 18, time for other players to be top scorers in the second half. I think only 2 of best 20 almost matched the first half gained pts. And only matched. I think Baines was closest and mainly defenders had approximately the same pts in second half. Attacker less likely
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8. Noisy Neighbour
  10 years, 4 months ago
  You might want to find the money elsewhere for Walcott so you can have both. Plum fixtures for Arsenal after this week, and maybe even including this week.
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  1. FPL Daniel
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Yes I can have both that is true, but I am looking for a differential
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    1. Noisy Neighbour
      10 years, 4 months ago
      I wouldn't bet against it working out for you if you ditch Ramsey. I kind of suspect his scoring will dry up myself, but until I see him stop getting into good scoring positions and getting opportunities I won't have the guts to take the chance.
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applebonkers
10 years, 4 months ago
proof hits aren't bad:
gameweek 16, no hits, 2.39mil rank.
gameweek 17, 24 point hit, 1 rank.

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/973410/history/
conclusive imo
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1. jmcclory123
  10 years, 4 months ago
  WOAH! very well done!
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2. Del Griffith
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Awesome.....24 point hit!!!!!!
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3. applebonkers
  10 years, 4 months ago
  also proof agger is essential
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4. Grounderz
  10 years, 4 months ago
  What's GR?
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5. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Wow... Just wow
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Cheeseoid
10 years, 4 months ago
Hang on I got 48 with 6 to play. Not as shoddy as the 39 I thought. I must have been looking at pre bap score
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PogChamp
10 years, 4 months ago
82(-4) with 3 to play. GW rank 2,485. Still time for me to make the top 100k 🙂
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Alpine3000
10 years, 4 months ago
69points with 6 more to play(ramsey, lukaku, hazard, GK, dawson, coleman)

don't seem like i need to transfer this week, so it doing to get saving.. happy days.. a respite for a spurs fan..
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Total Foot 5 - romario 11
10 years, 4 months ago
Remy FT drop for? thx (4 straight 2pt gw)

1--Negredo
2--Lukaku
3--Anyhone else?
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1. Total Foot 5 - romario 11
  10 years, 4 months ago
  i have Rooney - Suarez
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2. Evans
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Negredo - did you see the pass for James
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  1. Total Foot 5 - romario 11
    10 years, 4 months ago
    did not see any matches today. combination of hungover from huge party last nte & errands.
    
    thing is Lukaku has great 6 fixtures.
    negredo next 6 fixt has liv, tot, new
    
    still N3egredo u think will outscore lukaku?
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Fin
10 years, 4 months ago
Is everyone captaining Suarez next week or what?
Rooney, Walcott Lukaku are tempting
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1. joinho
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I'm going with Negredo
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TorresMagic™
10 years, 4 months ago
Just woke up. 52 points. Thank you Rooney.
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1. Thomass
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I scored 60! 😀 happy days
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2. boro_faithful
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Nicely, TM.
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3. Evans
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Morning
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FACUPARSE
10 years, 4 months ago
How is the average 31?

Half the people don't recognise Suarez is the best player?
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1. Captain Shirokov
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Half the people are inactive.
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  1. Noisy Neighbour
    10 years, 4 months ago
    And half of them have RVP (c), so they haven't gotten their autosub captain points yet.
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  2. Woy of the Wovers
    10 years, 4 months ago
    There's an inactive player in my ML who used his WC in GW6 and brought in Suarez and Ramsey. Armband frozen on Suarez so will qualify for Round 1 of the cup.
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2. The Machine
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Half the people don't play anymore.....
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3. Lanley Staurel
  10 years, 4 months ago
  55% of people don't play anymore.
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4. TorresMagic™
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Suarez had a red flag GW1
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5. BONZ
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Black Friday!
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boro_faithful
10 years, 4 months ago
Terry > Ward and Sess > Walcott for a -4? Opinions much appreciated.
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floydy_floyd
10 years, 4 months ago
Whittingham makes his way onto the front page 😎
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1. Scottys Army
  10 years, 4 months ago
  whits = legend
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2. applebonkers
  10 years, 4 months ago
  without a single cardiff pen. sadly i think it's more a sign of how bad or injured the big mids have been this season
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Make United Great Again
10 years, 4 months ago
Still people who don't rate Yaya on here???

34 points over 4 gameweeks...if thats not good enough don't know what will be.
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1. Mash Potato
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Got him in last week
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2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
  10 years, 4 months ago
  only 1 from open play
  
  can't decide between him and silva. Yaya more nailed on over 3 christmas games
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  1. boro_faithful
    10 years, 4 months ago
    With Aguero out, I don't expect Siva to be benched.
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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      10 years, 4 months ago
      hopefully you right
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  2. Make United Great Again
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Doesn't matter he's still scoring!
    
    and it's a tough one
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3. applebonkers
  10 years, 4 months ago
  well, depends what you mean by rate. awknowledge and rate slightly different things imo
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4. Evans
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Prefer silva
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  1. Make United Great Again
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Course Silva is a good option, but Yaya is the highest scoring mid...but as usual this site will overlook that 😀
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UnitednationsXI
10 years, 4 months ago
so what would u recommend for next gw? have 1FT and 1.4m

mannone -- myhill
dawson distin mert ---- burner olson
ramsey hazard coutinho nasri ---januzaj
suarez lukaku rooney

with both wally and silva going up tonight would you recommend:
A: coutinho + nasri >> wally + silva (-4) tonight
B: just do either coutinho/nasri >> silva tonight, wait to get wally in even if his price rises by 0.1
C: just do coutinho >> wally/silva and dont take a hit to remove nasri
D: myhill + coutinho >> marshall + wally (-4)

leaning towards B, if so, who do i remove tonight, coutinho or nasri?
- taking out coutinho means i have both nasri and silva in the event i cant do nasri>.wally (-4)
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Herman Toothrot
10 years, 4 months ago
Just did Oviedo to Janu to free up a slot for another Everton player.

I will be able to afford Baines for Terry... worth it? for free?
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World XI
10 years, 4 months ago
Man City have kept 5 clean sheets at home and boast a 100% win record. I'm actually considering not captaining Suarez on Boxing day!
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1. Evans
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Ok
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2. applebonkers
  10 years, 4 months ago
  problem is if they have a defence of clichy oop, demicheles, out of form kompany, kolarov then that's there for the taking.
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  1. Crouch Potato!
    10 years, 4 months ago
    The flip side is how Liverpool with match them in midfield, lose that battle and it's curtains.
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    1. applebonkers
      10 years, 4 months ago
      this is where the gerrard injury is a blessing in disguise
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3. floydy_floyd
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Tough one this week guy
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4. Qubit
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Me too. But its pretty much the only fixture id consider not having the (C) on him for.
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⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
10 years, 4 months ago
gw rank is very low. However it doesn't take into account any hits. Which shows in the low average

Might be chance to move up the rankings if you didn't take a hit and got a low score with no hits
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1. Scottys Army
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I took no hits
  
  61 points
  
  and only up 34 k
  
  disappointed tbh
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Pedram
10 years, 4 months ago
How come 56 points GW rank is 350,000 ? game is really getting tough.
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1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
  10 years, 4 months ago
  so many people taken pt hits with big scores. overall rank will be more reflective as average is only 31
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2. TorresMagic™
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Did you want to be in the top 50K?
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Crouch Potato!
10 years, 4 months ago
On 1,111 pts, that will be easy to remember 😉
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maxmania
10 years, 4 months ago
Pantilimon to who need to use my 1 free transfer this week as he didn't play today.
Budget is 5.2m

Team at the moment
Pantilimon Kelvin Davis
Ward Johnson Jagielka Terry Mertesacker
Silva Hazard Walcott Ramsey
Rooney Suarez Lukaku
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SuperOsçarBaby
10 years, 4 months ago
has the cardiff manager been sacked?
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1. The Machine
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Not yet, but should be this week.
  
  Looking good for Cardiff now
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Hect.OR 98th
10 years, 4 months ago
9th green arrow in a row. Carrying on my climb from a shaky start.
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1. 4-4-who?
  10 years, 4 months ago
  easy to get green arrows when you rank 1M+, try doing it when you are top 5k
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  1. Hect.OR 98th
    10 years, 4 months ago
    I did last year and ended up 98th
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  2. Hect.OR 98th
    10 years, 4 months ago
    ....after 12 greens in a row
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