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Dugout Discussion – Watford vs Liverpool

Saturday’s opening match has big boots to fill.

After Friday night’s opener provided seven goals, the onus is on Watford and Liverpool to entertain at Vicarage Road.

From a Fantasy perspective, the focus is on the visitors’ attack, with Sadio Mane, Mohamed Salah and Roberto Firmino strongly backed from Gameweek 1. That trio all boast over 20% ownership, benefitting no doubt from the late fall-out from Philippe Coutinho following the revelation of his transfer request.

The Brazilian misses out through “injury”, while, rather surprisingly, Jurgen Klopp elects to leave James Milner on the bench.

Touted as a potential target ahead of the season kick-off having been classified as a defender, Milner has claimed a 7.5% ownership who will be bitterly disappointed to see their man omitted. Given the absence of Coutinho and Adam Lallana, it is a shock to see him missing from the Liverpool midfield.

Meanwhile, the Reds line-up with two 4.5 options at full-back as Trent Alexander-Arnold and Alberto Moreno earn starts. Their progress will be tracked with interest, with Moreno potentially a real option from this point on.

For Watford, their most popular Fantasy asset Etienne Capoue (7.9%) is another left on the timber following speculation of a falling out with head coach Marco Silva.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. bennyp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    So many panic stations already!! Haha. There's only been 2 games so far, calm down people

    1. Gazpilicueta
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      only 2 games but.....13 goals!

    2. GE
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      This 🙂 I will save 2FT for GW3, except injuries.

  2. thepeen555
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    That's the premier league 3-3 what a match

    Still no cleanies in 2 matches - let's see how the 3pm's do

    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Hence why I didn't opt for premium defenders. Will get them once we know who the best options are

  3. I Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Still on 0 points.

    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Loads of water to flow yet bud

    2. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Should have bought a few playing players 🙂 Just joking mate - more to come . . .

  4. Pariße
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Similar shambles in defending corners from Arsenal and Liverpool, the difference being these are Liverpool's first choice center backs.

  5. Gonzola
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Boga (c) anyone with me?

    1. My Name Is Pepu
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Not even listed on FPL.. Shhaaaahhh

      1. Gonzola
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Haha I didn't realise that 😀

      2. Limbo
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Had to say that out loud to see what you meant, geez.

  6. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    So 13 goals in 2 games; what's the odds for a bunch of nil nils this afternoon!

  7. Kroosin'
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Isn't high scoring games the reason for us to get attacking wingbacks/fullbacks rather than lower priced centre backs ?

    Kolasinac got 5 points including a bonus with his team conceding 3.

    Still positive about Kola-Alonso-Bertie-Daniels backline.

    1. Gazpilicueta
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      exactly, and cleanies are a happy bonus when they come

      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        No. Other way around. Cleanies first, the bonus is if they get attacking points. For me anyway

      2. Les Bleus
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        That's not smart when owning defenders.

        1. Kroosin'
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          It is smart, at least in the beginning when the clean sheets are unpredictable. Later on you can shift.

    2. HALFSPACE
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Bertrand and Daniels arent wingbacks. They are full backa

      1. Kroosin'
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Well I mentioned wingbacks/fullbacks.

    3. FlockofSeagulls
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I have Kola, Valencia, Bertrand and Danilo.

      Expensive, but I still think they offer better value over the similarly priced mids at this stage.

  8. A.T
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    DCL playing rwb? Jesus wept.

    1. Hazardouss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Sorry who's DCL??

  9. Berbalove
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Who's Boga?

  10. Bushido
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Repost as it went to the bottom
    So here is the final list for Iwobi owners. Keep an eye out on the following, for one Iwobi you can get the following:
    1. Xhaka,
    2. Gross,
    3. RLC,
    4. Fraser,
    5. Shelvey,
    6.Allen,
    7.JWP,
    8. Fer,
    9. Atsu,
    10. Brady,
    11. Caroll,
    12. Matic

    We'll vote on Sunday

    1. Patty
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mooy

      1. Bushido
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Who's mooy?

    2. HALFSPACE
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Awful awful options

      1. Bushido
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        The community spoke, these are the names the Iwobi owners wanted in the list. It'll be narrowed down at the end of today.

      2. Limbo
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        They are the options for 5.5. Awful as it looks.

      3. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        No, just options. I can pick some possible good runners from these

        1. Xhaka,
        6.Allen,
        7.JWP,
        8. Fer,
        9. Atsu,
        11. Caroll,
        12. Matic

    3. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Walters

    4. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      +1 Bushy

      Forget the detractors, at least you're out there doing something positive for the FFS community.

      Lad's are you the same in person? I find there's less negative
      bravado when people aren't hiding behind pseudonyms.

  11. F4L
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Fabregas 15 points today

    1. Bushido
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I hope so

      1. F4L
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        you know so

    2. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Alonso

  12. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Genuine question, who is Boga?

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Boga Smoga Toga

    2. Patty
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Chelsea youth player, impressed v Arsenal in pre season

    3. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Youth player.. quick feet, can get past players, good in tight situations.. really impressive in pre season

    4. The Fantastic Mr Fox
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      A Boga is an amortal shape-shifting non-being that takes on the form of the viewer's worst fear

    5. Steinburg FC
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      He was on loan at Granada last year and did well, very versatile position wise, cm or winger or second striker. Looking forward to see him play today.

  13. HALFSPACE
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Confident on Ince, and Hud in general

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think so - 3-1 Palace

  14. Andy_Social
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Palace starting with TFM, RLC, Lokilo - all nice 4.5m.

  15. PogChamp
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Zoinks!! 35 from 3 😯

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      vardy salah firmino?

      1. PogChamp
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah

    2. Point-one short
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Nice

  16. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    How does some bloke we've never heard of pitch up in a Chelsea team first game of the season?

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      i heard of him but he wasnt in the game

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      You haven't been paying attention (to be fair, neither has FPL Towers)

    3. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Conte is trying to make a statement about needing more signings

    4. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Most peeps had probably never heard of Messi when he played his first first-team game - true?

  17. FlockofSeagulls
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Ok so finally my gw begins!

    Just need Begovic, Bertrand, Milivojevic and Fabregas to get me off to a good start please.

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      southampton, palace and bournemouth cleanies

      1. FlockofSeagulls
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Highly unlikely from what we've seen, but hoping for attacking and save points hopefully.

  18. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    At the current rate of scoring, I'm bang on target for 5016 points by the end of the season.... 🙂

    1. CloudSky
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Should be enough for second place.

    2. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      As long as I get the 5017 I'll be happy

  19. JustPark
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Boga top scorer gw1 is imminent!

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Let the Bogwagon roll!

      1. Over Midwicket
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Hope this doesn't catch on

      2. The Knights Template
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        A Bogroll.

  20. Pino
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Im worried not owning Willian now

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      *Fabregas

    2. BrutalLogiC
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      why? I own him and not sure at all

  21. laplana
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Looking like my best season ever!

  22. F4L
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Patience is wearing thin with Kane

    1. Bushido
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      He hasn't played yet. Trust the Kane

      1. Bushido
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Otherwise it'll hurt

      2. F4L
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Trust wearing thin in Kane...

    2. The Wise Owl
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      He's not even played yet, shh

    3. Pino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      This. There are much cheaper good forward options.

    4. HALFSPACE
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Haha

  23. FlockofSeagulls
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Is RLC playing in a front 3 with Zaha and Benteke? Does that put him at risk from Sako?

  24. tafrère
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    LIVERPOOL :

    1. Even if Mané got beat by both teammates Salah and Firmino, which could be a concern to his owners because he's more expensive, he still looked more explosive and a more valuable captaincy option from week to week.

    2. Salah was a proper rollercoaster today. Poor first half and already a moking nickame was shouted around here. Got double figures in the end, not in the most sexy way though. His shortness and lack of physical aptitudes could be a problem in the Premier League. But he sure knows how to move around the pitch to get the more shots he possibly can (got 5 today, all good ones).

    3. Firmino took a penalty, that was somehow written in the stars since day one of the pre-season. Was mostly a ghost throughout the game but ended up in double figures too, still a good pick for his price range then, I guess.

    4. Alexander-Arnold was the cheapest way into a soso Liverpool defence for the start of the season. It didn't go very well, with a lot of mistakes in the first half and a stupid booking in the second. However he did took the corners over Firmino and delivered two beautiful crosses to fellow defensers Matip and Lovren that only got stopped by the bar and Gomes. At the same price Moreno should be a better pick in the long run.

    WATFORD :

    1. Holebas is in my opinion the only interesting player in that Watford team. He's on set-pieces and the Marco Silva team is pretty strong in that area so he could get at least 5 assists this season. Clean sheets potential is weak.

    Apart from that, I think you can start invest on Karius haha.

    1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      its a Silva team. they will do well.

    2. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks for that! What was Salah mocking nickname?? +1

      1. tafrère
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Potato.

        1. tafrère
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Or even worse : Fellaini's potato.

    3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Holebas is a card magnet tho

    4. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks for the write-up. Would you say Liv def is a good thing to keep investing in (and I know 1 match is not enough) or there may be better options out there? (also 1 match in 🙂

      Were you at the game? Doesn't matter, but good atmosphere?

      1. tafrère
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I think Moreno and TAA can be fine picks at 4.5. And no, I wasn't at the game!

  25. Ramboros
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know how Palace will line up? The players they use are very confusing.

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      3412

    2. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      343 i think
      PVA wide in 4
      Zaha up in 3
      Rest dont matter

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        3 CBs
        2 WBs
        2 CMs
        2 IFs
        1 CF

  26. twoplustwo
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Are Liverpool in for a keeper?

  27. WINNING!
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    All those on zero, it's time to feel good because Ville Ronka is on 0 as well!

    1. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Having 2 feels worse than 0 at the moment

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Link to his team?

      1. Wrong Captain Again
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Yes please

    3. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks Charlie Sheen 🙂

      I saw his team earlier - he's gone WBA heavy contrary to the thoughts on this site.

  28. Rainer
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Jules Breach o'clock!

  29. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    I take it that there is no more games shown at 3 o'clock in Ireland now that Sky Sports 5 has disappeared? 🙁

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Oh wait Chelsea and Burnley is on 🙂

      1. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Maybe you need to re-calibrate your TV? 🙂

  30. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Hazard expectedback 9 September now? Darn

    1. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      4 weeks - that's ok. Should have some TV built up.