Opinion

The Knee Jerk – Gameweek 1 – Saturday

A classic knee jerk in the making, Mohamed Salah owners were already fidgeting by half-time at Vicarage Road.

Fresh from four goals in pre-season, he had endured an inauspicious start to life back in the Premier League. A toe-poked skyward effort when through on goal, packaged up with several over miscues and errant first touches totalled a miserable first 45 minutes for Salah.

In contrast, Sadio Mane had sparkled and smartly converted Emre Can’s flick to peg back a plucky first half Watford showing.

Shifted to the left flank by Salah’s arrival, it looked as though Mane had adjusted to already demonstrate that he was back as the go-to guy among the opulence in Liverpool’s attack.

But things were to turn dramatically.

Just through sheer pace and endeavour, Salah first won a penalty via Heurelho Gomes’ clumsy telescopic arms and then sprinted to convert Roberto Firmino’s chipped effort from two yards out.

He ended on 11 points and was quickly installed as the top transfer target from those in action on the day.

He tallied five shots, all in the penalty area and eight touches in the box – more than any other midfielder in Gameweek 1 so far. Just as we expected, the statistics are Salah’s friend and will likely reinforce his case throughout the season.

Mane, who picked up a booking, was left trailing and, on today’s evidence, will clearly have his work cut out to justify his billing as the most expensive option in Jurgen Klopp’s armoury.

Owned by 23.5% to Salah’s 23.3%, that narrow gap is closing as Philippe Coutinho owners bail out, turning to the Egyptian as their replacement.

It is, of course, early days and it’s back at Anfield where Mane has previously been so potent.

Nine of his 13 goals arrived on Merseyside last season and he will have Crystal Palace in his sights for Gameweek 2.

Firmino also deserves our recognition. With Klopp relegating James Milner to his bench, the Brazilian was again on penalty duties and expertly converted following Salah’s tumble.

With the assist to follow, Firmino waltzed his way to the maximum bonus points, already benefiting from his new classification as a forward.

If Milner is to remain out of favour – presumably now discounted as a left-back – then Firmino will surely prosper.

Liverpool won eight penalties last season, with all but one converted by Milner. Firmino scored 11 goals regardless.

We have no reason to expect that Liverpool’s penalty count will regress. Indeed, with Salah adding his pace to Mane’s bursts, there’s every chance it will be maintained or even increased.

The conclusion is that Firmino’s stock is on the rise and that suddenly, Mane is in danger of slipping further down our Liverpool attack pecking order.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.”

4,257 Comments Post a Comment
  1. MIKEGREAV
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Have to question what Klopp was thinking putting Moreno back in? Same old from him.

    1. asquishypotato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      wouldn't say he was entirely culpable for the goals, it wasn't like last seasons Arsenal game where he gave away a penalty and looked ropy.

      The whole defence dis

      1. MIKEGREAV
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Neither would I. Just have to question his judgement as to why Moreno still remains at Liverpool.

    2. Berbinho's Forehead
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      He played decent. Mignolet, Matip, Lovren and Henderson were the awful ones.

      1. MIKEGREAV
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I saw the same reckless player from previous seasons.

        1. Berbinho's Forehead
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          3 months, 11 days ago

          He's not great at all, but he wasn't awful today.

          1. Frank Black
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Not playing Milner was insane, defensively and offensively speaking.

            1. Berbinho's Forehead
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              3 months, 11 days ago

              Milner is more shite than Moreno.

          2. MIKEGREAV
            3 months, 11 days ago

            Yeah perhaps it's wrong to single him our today for his performance, Liverpool were inept in the 1st half.

            I guess I thought by now he would have been far from a team of their stature.

  2. shotgunnufc
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    3 months, 11 days ago

    no knee jerks, it's fine

  3. TorresMagic™
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    3 months, 11 days ago

    LMS Update

    Current safety score = 24
    Top score = 89
    LMS average = 37.89

    2 games + autosubs to go

    1. Jac The Cat
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      When's the cut off to join?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        Last chance will be January international break. Need to pass all the safety scores to qualify.

    2. Goonermeister
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      How many points do you think will be enough?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        Depends on tomorrow, lots of captains left.

    3. Jallegre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Do half the managers drop each week TM?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        Bottom 5% atm.

        1. ZoumasBloomers
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          3 months, 11 days ago

          Is it accumulative bottom 5%, or just individual game week performance?

    4. ⚒Jay⚒ Hungary Neville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Cheers. 22 here with a 3 point autosub. Kane (c), Lukaku, Valencia, Elliot. Real chance I go out week 1.

      1. TorresMagic™
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        Should be ok.

    5. Pompel
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      No Kane or ManU - Looks like going out GW1

  4. asquishypotato
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Firmino is the one target that I think will prosper and I'm worried not to have.

    Penalties greatly swings things and the linkup play with Salah and Mane can only get better

    1. Beatle
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Yep. He's there pick I'm most happy with

    2. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      True but arguably more at risk of rotation as pool have solanke, origi and sturridge

    3. Berbinho's Forehead
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      😎

      1. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        *takes glasses of when he remembers Iwobi*

      2. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Although if you are going for a Liverpool pick actively going firmino ahead of any other is either a stroke of genius or budget

        1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
          3 months, 11 days ago

          Nah. Good judgement. He seems to be number 1 up top for Klopp, but if one of the others you mention is to play, Firminho will and can accommodated in the number ten role or on the left, especially with Coutinho going. Klopp loves him. He's rotation proof

    4. Rossendale Rover
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Salah is a great player, but Firmino on penalties was the only reason I favoured him. It won't be like that every week of course

  5. _sidney_will
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Any potential price rises tonight?

  6. Bregg Zit
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Bad news for Lukaku owners / cappers if this guy knows his stuff:

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/3559256/event/1

    1. Final Fantasy XI
      3 months, 11 days ago

      lol wut is going on with that team. Triple captain Hegazi and Lukaku benched for 90+ points :))

      1. Gregg Wallace
        3 months, 11 days ago

        well, he is eqyptian 😉

    2. rrcmc
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      How didn't he even notion the thought of captaining Hegazi!!! Genius or deluded

    3. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Triple Captain Hegazi.... MENTAL

    4. Yav
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      LOL

    5. df34
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Great spot Bregg, Hegazi TC , unbelievable !!:-)

    6. Rossendale Rover
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Deluded. Lets check his score again in 2 weeks.

  7. Gregg Wallace
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Why didn't I just triple up on Liverpool attack. It always seems to work.

    1. Johqvist
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Agreed. We always feel so smart trying to cover the teams we think could do well instead of stock up on the teams we know will.

      1. Johqvist
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        Watching Braveheart as we speak!

  8. tristanabc
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Who to play next week?

    A) Atsu (hud)
    B) Zaha (liv)

    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Wait until tomorrow

    2. Alan_T
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Zaha

    3. foobfan
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Hoping Astu will rock the boat for spurs tomorrow 🙂

      1. Final Fantasy XI
        3 months, 11 days ago

        same here if Atsu scores I will be so happy

    4. Rossendale Rover
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Atsu

  9. rrcmc
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Agreed. Anywhere I can chase price predictions?
    Need to ditch Ininotcho and fabinot and get Mounie and one other, but how urgent...?

      1. rrcmc
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        It's gotta hit 100+ % right for a price rise?

        1. TorresMagic™
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          3 months, 11 days ago

          If the site is correct, yes.

  10. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
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    3 months, 11 days ago

    Bit of an eager beaver (or keen badger),

    Who would you play next week;

    Mee (WBA) or TCarroll (MUN)?

    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Mee

    2. _sidney_will
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Mee

    3. Beatle
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Mee obviously

    4. Rossendale Rover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      If I was you, Id want to play Mee too

  11. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Well, looks like I might be able to roll a FT into Gw2...

    For the first time ever!

    1. Adam West
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      It's your year

    2. Johqvist
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Plan was to do the same but then I tried to be smart and get Fabregas instead of Willian.

  12. Alan_T
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Have any bargains emerged from today's lineups?

    1. Gregg Wallace
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Mounié

    2. Netley O'Lucas Ibeland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Mounie & Vokes, Bobby F too

    3. Alan_T
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Yeah i am considering Tammy -----> Vokes or Mounie.

      Just dunno which to go for?

      Luckily I can't afford Rooney 🙂

  13. Everyday im Schneiderlin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    is xhaka the best 5.5 mid ? or moo?

    1. _sidney_will
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Wait a couple of weeks for a relatively consistent one to emerge imo

    2. Netley O'Lucas Ibeland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Some seem te think so. Not convinced.

    3. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Xhaka is a flash in the pan. Will be getting 2 and 3 points most weeks

    4. THFC4LIFE
      3 months, 11 days ago

      That name is banned

      1. Everyday im Schneiderlin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        cheers thanks to all

    5. FlockofSeagulls
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I'm not even convinced he's nailed on in that team.

      Coq, Elniny, Ramsey, Chamberlain, Wilshere etc. Plenty competition for that spot. I wouldn't be in a rush to get him.

  14. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Mounie bandwagon if he scores another next weekend...

    1. Manani
      3 months, 11 days ago

      will probably pull a negredo after I bring him in

    2. TTKKane
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      The new Michu!

    3. Alan_T
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Looked ace

  15. Kuntheman(c)-★Balegium★
    3 months, 11 days ago

    I'm looking more at Vardy than Firmino, if I'm honest. Meh fixtures (kinda like Firmino) but pace is pace in the PL and he looks sharp

    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      He won't play a makeshift defence every week

    2. Adam West
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      He scored a free header and benefited from some shocking marking . He looked sharp but I don't think it changed a whole pile for me tbh

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        3 months, 11 days ago

        This

    3. SC not pearls before swine
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Arsenal were pretty horrible defensively though. It will be interesting to see how Leicester deal with Brighton who will play much more conservatively if today was any indication.

  16. Optimus.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Those playing Sky FF are you swapping out Lacazette for Lukaku?

    1. ONSIDE 9
      3 months, 11 days ago

      No I had xhaka (c) to cover lacazette 😎

  17. DiMatteoBandwagon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    What, toe poked a nearly spectacular goal by Firmino....yeah really struggling to justify the extra 0.5

  18. Jacky boy
    3 months, 11 days ago

    About Taa and danilo:
    A) taa to hegazi
    B) danilo to hegazi
    C) keep
    D) suicide

    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      D, by jumping into a pool of laser-wearing pie eating sharks

      1. Jacky boy
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Will be great

    2. DD - Reussia
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      A probably but only if Clyne is likely to come back next week

  19. SC not pearls before swine
    3 months, 11 days ago

    I still feel pretty good about Mane. He may not wind up being worth the extra .5 over Salah, but there's not enough in it to tempt me to switch.

    1. Netley O'Lucas Ibeland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      I think he's their best attacking player, holding the knee 😆

      1. SC not pearls before swine
        3 months, 11 days ago

        I had him basically every week he was fit last year, and it worked out for the most part. His inability to get bonus points is very annoying though.

        1. Netley O'Lucas Ibeland
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 11 days ago

          It was a quality goal from a quality player.

    2. kalmoffit
      3 months, 11 days ago

      This article is just nonsense. 🙂

  20. Cesc, Drogs & Rock and …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Decent first GW; got lucky with a couple of decisions.

    DDG

    Luiz | Ake | Bertrand | Lowe

    Ritchie | Salah (captained) | Alli | KDB

    Jesus | Luk

    (Eliot, bunch of 4.5 and 4s) cares)

    Thinking of rolling over FT. Thoughts?

  21. MORATA-TAT-TAT
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    3 months, 11 days ago

    Really not sure I will be able to justify Firmino at any point this season when Morata was decent today, then there's Jesus, Kane, Lukaku...

    Really think its the midfield where we need to be looking.

    1. Berbinho's Forehead
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Depends what you do with the cash.

  22. Energetics
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Already asked previous post but no replies.

    Best 5.5 mid, preferably on set pieces.

    A. Xhaka
    B. Brunt (good rotation with Carroll
    C. Mooy
    D. JWP

    1. TTKKane
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Jwp

    2. Tears for Fers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      The one who scored most points this gw. The best news is that this answer applies to every gw!

    3. Yav
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Too early to say, however i started with JWP. Not sure how that will go....

    4. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      C or D of those

  23. TTKKane
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    3 months, 11 days ago

    187k position...all downhill from here lol

  24. andy85wsm
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    3 months, 11 days ago

    It's great to have FPL back!

    1. DD - Reussia
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Amen. How's week 1 shaping up for you Andy?

      1. andy85wsm
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        39 so far, happy with that given who's played and scored so far.

        Lukaku (c), Kane, Atsu and Mkhitaryan to go.

        1. DD - Reussia
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          3 months, 11 days ago

          Good stuff mate. You convinced me on the podcast to punt on Mkhitaryan rather than stick with Zaha. Hopefully it works out like we both hope.

          1. andy85wsm
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            3 months, 11 days ago

            Fingers crossed!

    2. Jamie_GAWA
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Agreed!

      Love the streams btw

      1. andy85wsm
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        Thanks for tuning in! 🙂

    3. Tears for Fers
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      No. Not really...

      1. andy85wsm
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        You're probably in the wrong place 😉

        1. Tears for Fers
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          3 months, 11 days ago

          I hurt myself today. To see if I still feel. I focus on the pain. The Alonso thing that's real.

          1. CptCrunch OF FASHANU ZEALAN…
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            3 months, 11 days ago

            Im NIN'alu

    4. pelle9
      3 months, 11 days ago

      whats ur team id bro ?

      1. andy85wsm
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        157

    5. Jallegre
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Amen and thanks to you plug on Stephens in the Podcast... nice 7 points

      1. andy85wsm
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        3 months, 11 days ago

        6*

        But still great, love him 🙂

    6. Darklord_bg
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Indeed...I missed the excitement, cursing at Salah at half-time, then doing a complete 180 during second half.

      Then Hegazi goal...when I wasn't even sure he would start...awesome stuff.

  25. Jamie_GAWA
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Lost on last article..

    @wildrover

    Just replied to your comment telling me to 'link or STFU'

    One of many links of me backing Huddersfield.. don't be salty lol

  26. b✪mber
    3 months, 11 days ago

    How did RLC look today? Looked on the last 5-7 pages of the old post, but didn't see anyone mention him.

    1. TD Champ
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Played in a very attacking role in the first half, didn't do well. Second half went deeper, and played better. But playing deeper is of course worse with regards to FPL...

    2. SC not pearls before swine
      3 months, 11 days ago

      He was invisible in the first half on the right wing. When Townsend came in and he moved to midfield he was great. A couple of great runs that drew fouls and a couple of sexy long passes to Zaha. Not sure he'll be a fantasy force, but he played very well.

      1. b✪mber
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Do you think he'll keep his place in the team?

  27. pelle9
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Keep zaha & willian or sell 1 of them for ramsey ?

    Tnks

    1. TTKKane
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Keep for now

    2. Yav
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Hold fire for another week. Use the time to see more of everyone.

  28. We Will Klopp you
    3 months, 11 days ago

    Early captain shouts non-Lukaku owners? I'm thinking Kane

    1. Optimus.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Salah looks a good shout

      1. We Will Klopp you
        3 months, 11 days ago

        Tended to get trolled by Liv mids last season, got me points but whenever I captained them they underwhelmed (e.g. Mane blank week), Salah is in my thoughts, seems to have a striker's mindset

  29. Kjoreilly
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    3 months, 11 days ago

    Is fab price protected?

    Is Winjaldum a good pick if he's not price protected, played fairly advanced today

    1. TTKKane
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      He should have scored too

    2. TorresMagic™
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      3 months, 11 days ago

      Not price protected, just needs more transfers out.

    3. Johqvist
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      It's either Wijnaldum or Ramsey for me.

  30. lilmessipran
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 11 days ago

    501k with kane and lukaku (c) left...boom

    1. Yav
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 11 days ago

      Just 37 weeks of consistency to go!

    2. FISKIMUS
      3 months, 11 days ago

      33k with Valencia and Rashford left...... sonic boom!