Opinion

The Knee Jerk – Gameweek 1 – Saturday

A classic knee jerk in the making, Mohamed Salah owners were already fidgeting by half-time at Vicarage Road.

Fresh from four goals in pre-season, he had endured an inauspicious start to life back in the Premier League. A toe-poked skyward effort when through on goal, packaged up with several over miscues and errant first touches totalled a miserable first 45 minutes for Salah.

In contrast, Sadio Mane had sparkled and smartly converted Emre Can’s flick to peg back a plucky first half Watford showing.

Shifted to the left flank by Salah’s arrival, it looked as though Mane had adjusted to already demonstrate that he was back as the go-to guy among the opulence in Liverpool’s attack.

But things were to turn dramatically.

Just through sheer pace and endeavour, Salah first won a penalty via Heurelho Gomes’ clumsy telescopic arms and then sprinted to convert Roberto Firmino’s chipped effort from two yards out.

He ended on 11 points and was quickly installed as the top transfer target from those in action on the day.

He tallied five shots, all in the penalty area and eight touches in the box – more than any other midfielder in Gameweek 1 so far. Just as we expected, the statistics are Salah’s friend and will likely reinforce his case throughout the season.

Mane, who picked up a booking, was left trailing and, on today’s evidence, will clearly have his work cut out to justify his billing as the most expensive option in Jurgen Klopp’s armoury.

Owned by 23.5% to Salah’s 23.3%, that narrow gap is closing as Philippe Coutinho owners bail out, turning to the Egyptian as their replacement.

It is, of course, early days and it’s back at Anfield where Mane has previously been so potent.

Nine of his 13 goals arrived on Merseyside last season and he will have Crystal Palace in his sights for Gameweek 2.

Firmino also deserves our recognition. With Klopp relegating James Milner to his bench, the Brazilian was again on penalty duties and expertly converted following Salah’s tumble.

With the assist to follow, Firmino waltzed his way to the maximum bonus points, already benefiting from his new classification as a forward.

If Milner is to remain out of favour – presumably now discounted as a left-back – then Firmino will surely prosper.

Liverpool won eight penalties last season, with all but one converted by Milner. Firmino scored 11 goals regardless.

We have no reason to expect that Liverpool’s penalty count will regress. Indeed, with Salah adding his pace to Mane’s bursts, there’s every chance it will be maintained or even increased.

The conclusion is that Firmino’s stock is on the rise and that suddenly, Mane is in danger of slipping further down our Liverpool attack pecking order.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Alan Shearer - not the best start in trying to beat his 2.3m final rank from last year........ https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/727165/event/1

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      at least he doesn't have a ghost manager

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      One of the biggest wastes of a 100m budget I've seen

    3. Hairy Potter
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Bizarre, he's got Darlow who is 2nd choice keeper at Newcastle and Lascelles who may not be first choice any more at centre back.

    4. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      How on earth is that 100m? I was expecting 10m ITB.

    5. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I looked his squad up the other day VVD = "Stupidity"

    6. tambourineman
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Asmir Begovic isn't doing much better as a Cahill and Fabregas owner
      https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/111821/event/1

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Did the right thing and benched Dunk though.

      2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        How on earth did he get into "ELITE 64" ??????????????????

    7. TTKKane
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Awful

  2. F4L
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Initial captain picks for next week?

    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Probably Lukaku again.

    2. PogChamp
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Kane or Vardy

    3. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Jesus.

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        This.

        Or Kun..

        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Vs Everton? They have a strong defensive team IMO.

    4. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Firmino.CP look teriible today.

      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Good call actually.

    5. Ode
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Kane

    6. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Probably Kane but Wijnaldum (c) is extremely tempting

    7. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Firmino

    8. Hairy Potter
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Aguero, Jesus, Lukaku, Mane or Salah are the options in my team.

    9. Rash
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Salah

    10. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Salah or Aguero most likely

    11. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Firmino

    12. A Team Of James McCleans
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Kane, always Kane.

    13. Darklord_bg
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lukaku or Kane depending on tomorrow's games.

      Salah also an option.

    14. SL8
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Salah atm

  3. Kurtinho
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Might have to bite the bullet and shift Fabregas > Willian.

    1. Johqvist
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Can't think of a more unsexy move and I might do it myself 🙁

  4. Ode
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    No way I'm getting rid of Zaha after seeing Liverpool's defending today. I see easy 10 points GW2

    1. super zlatan
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Good point actually

  5. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Have I missed something? Why is Zaha suddenly such an awful option, after one game?

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      C'mon mate - you're not new here!

      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Good point 😀

    2. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I think CP getting beat 3-0 by a team everyone expected to do a Derby is what people are getting rid.

    3. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      knees practically breaking through the jerks

    4. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      herd mentality

    5. FDMS All Starz
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Most are just scared his price will drop while others rise

    6. Harper (No more Penandes)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Because people have the foresight of a goldfish

    7. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Especially with they Liverpool defence up next.

      1. kijsberg
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Is Zaha on corners?

        1. Bafana
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          No, Van Aanholt was today. On both sides

    8. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Probably becasue he wasn't a great option in the first place. This forum pushed him pretty hard and it convinced the majority to get him. Last year, at 5.5 he was good value, but Zaha isn't worth 7m.

    9. Un De Sceaux
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Blanked at home to Huddersfield and now he's away to one of the better sides

  6. the snazzy viking
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Having no Salah has cost me..

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      In Wijnaldum we trust amirite?

      1. the snazzy viking
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        In Wijnaldum we trust.

  7. Carcetti
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    How do you view other peoples team on Draft?

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      It's annoying, isn't it? Try the draft room if nothing else works

    2. JWade
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      This is killing me too. You have to go back into the Draft room and use the drop down menu that says "Drafted Teams". You can't see who they played or their points though.

  8. Dacra
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    As a Liverpool fan, I've no idea between the front 3. Sticking with Bobby, just because he's cheaper.

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      if they keep banging in 3, why not own 3 😉

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        This. In my ML newbie leading by couple of points with triple up ManFirSal

        1. F4L
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          I was on it, but got cold feet. Looking to double ASAP however

      2. GREEN IS GOOD
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        3 mids from same team rarely all score highly in the same games. You may tick along nicely with it. But win anything... probably not.

        1. GREEN IS GOOD
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          * yeah Firmino is a striker now, but same principal.

    2. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Stick for now. Might add Salah to Firmino as Mane seems to be the one dropping deeper to fill Coutinho's creative void.

    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Glad I went Salah and Firmino. Pick your man/men and back them. Best way to go about it.

  9. RLukaku
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Keep or hold transfer? Cheers

    Foster ( Elliot )
    Kolasinac Danilo Stephens ( Suttner, long)
    KDB Willian Zaha JWP ( RLC )
    Kane Kaku Firmino

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      hold man, that's a nice team

      1. RLukaku
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks! Really want Salah though...

        1. F4L
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          most wouldn't agree, but I think Salah +1 mil outweighs KDB

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely keep. Firmino cheaper and on penalties so I would stick with him as will take you -4 minimum to get Salah

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        *I assumed you would want to keep KDB as he created many chances and will score well

    3. Kane Toads
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Best to hold. Its a good strategy to hold on GW2 and have two FTs for GW3. Add in a hit and you can do 3 TFs in GW3 for only -4pts. It allows you to pick up those that are performing.

  10. Francescoli
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone watch Bournemouth? How did Fraser play?

    1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Know he was on a couple of set pieces, would of had an assist if Ake had finished his header

      1. Francescoli
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        cheers.

    2. Guy Demel
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Pretty ineffective, as were the whole team, but was on set pieces and free kicks from both sides of the pitch.

      Ok for 5.5 for now

      1. Francescoli
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Not worth switching to Mooy then?

  11. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Top 1k ANY Season League 21265-6670

    350+ last Season (top 13 broke sub 1000 rank again)

    So far 8 different winners over the years

    2016/17 Billy Ketsu
    2015/16 Craig Eady
    2014/15 Jon Sumner
    2013/14 Loz Sutty
    2012/13 EVS
    2011/12 Tom Pearson
    2010/11 Gareth Rees
    2009/10 Pocky

    Good Luck

    #Please make sure that when entering you have a valid sub 1000 rank in your history#

    At present over 413 have signed up so far with Daniels Goodman leading the masses with an 80 point haul and OR 1488 clear of second place on 69

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I was well within top 1k one season. Until Smalling scored an OG with the final kick of the season and ruined my double CS.

  12. super zlatan
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Kdb > Salah?

    Already have firmino.

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      see how midweek goes

    2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Could free up vital £ IF you need to squeeze Kane in for GW3

      1. super zlatan
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Already got Kane.

        Front 3 of Kane. Lukaku. Firmino.

    3. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Hold for now. KdB will get the points and you already have firmino

  13. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Would you rather have Alonso or Salah?

    Uness Kane or Lukaku are ruled out after tomorrows matches then it's a choice between keeping Alonso or getting in Salah

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      salah obv

    2. Harper (No more Penandes)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      You mean Alonso + 1FT + 4points or Salah

      1. ViperStripes
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Yes

  14. rainy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    New players added since Friday:

    Fikayo Tomori - Chelsea, Defender, £4.5
    Kyle Scott - Chelsea, Midfielder, £4.5
    Freddie Ladapo - Crystal Palace, Forward, £4.5
    Eliaquim Mangala - Man City, Defender, £5.0
    Stuart Taylor - Southampton, Goalkeeper, £4.0
    Mario Lemina - Southampton, Midfielder, £5.0
    Richarlison de Andrade - Watford, Midfielder, £6.0
    Kane Wilson - West Brom, Defender, £4.0
    Rekeem Harper - West Brom, Midfielder, £4.5

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Richarlison 6m?!

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Well overpriced.

      2. rainy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        FPL pricing players at £2 per Série A goal now

    2. FDMS All Starz
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lemina looks a bargain ...lets just hope he can hit form

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        He's a CDM. Essentially a Matic.

        1. FDMS All Starz
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          What oh, thought he was winger lol

        2. Francescoli
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          This

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers Rainy

    4. CloudSky
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lemina at 5.0 could be interesting.

  15. PogChamp
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Some nice advice here this week. On ScoutCast there was triple Saints defence and double Liverpool attack.

    I never played the Sky game and based my team on the articles here. Got 98 points. Thanks for the double Huddersfield defence and Xhaka tips.

    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Whats your Sky team?.. I'm on 78 points and like my tean(playing with 10)

        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Action not allowed

          1. PogChamp
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Lossl
            Bertrand, Stephens, Smith
            Zaha, KDB(c), Xhaka, Mkhi, Salah
            Vardy(c), Kane(c)

      1. PogChamp
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I had Fab too but made a transfer for Mkhi. Not sure if that was the right move.

  16. Atwood
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone got a link for that script that shows you a more detailed FPL League table?

  17. FDMS All Starz
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    How did KDB play? Worth the 10M?

    1. TTKKane
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Silva looked a bit more lively... but KDB is class so he'll have better days

    2. Rash
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Involved in much of city's attacking play will justify his price over the season

    3. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Not so great from an fpl point of view. I'm having my doubts but think he might do well against Everton

  18. Hart-ake
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Fabregas to Ramsey or Fraser (+1.5m ITB)

    1. super zlatan
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Ramsey is an interesting option.

    2. TTKKane
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Or Willian?

    3. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Ramsey's Fixtures look beaut after GW5 (although Bournemouth GW4 looks nice) thinking of bringing him in for Zaha then

  19. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Who should I start next week?

    Mee or Dann

    1. Taking The Mkhii
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mee all day long

    2. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Got both & going for Mee

      1. super zlatan
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Mee

    3. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Nice one lads

    4. Nascimento
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Dann

  20. Taking The Mkhii
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Quick question regarding Cahill's price. Since he's been flagged, his price won't fluctuate until he's available again, correct?

    1. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      No. Get rid.

  21. Pacer.
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Is there a link to see how all the FFS bigwigs did in their league?

  22. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Could Xhaka become a genuine FPL asset?

    Last season he only managed 2 goals and 3 assists, which is less than was expected of him. He's managed to grab a pair of assists already and costs a megre 5.5M meaning he is in the optimal price range for a 4th midfielder, allowing a kinder spread of funds elsewhere.

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      For every assist he'll also get a red card so at the end of the day it's not worth it.

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      wait till he starts getting booked and then inevitably sent off

      the guy is a nutcase

    3. Harper (No more Penandes)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I think so but not just yet. He has a terrific pass range and is very creative for a defensive midfielder, if he can become Arsenal's main playmaker then would be a great FPL option

    4. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      No. Remember when Stuani scored a brace last year?

  23. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    loving the knee jerking and then the tears to follow

    FPL is back baby

    1. super zlatan
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      🙂

    2. Rainer
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      All that was missing today was an - OMG KDB

      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        indeed, unfortunately he wasn't very close today

    3. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Yep
      Knee Jerk #galore#

  24. eoan
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Did any noteable HOF managers have Mounie?

  25. Sterling is £11Mill..…
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    you guys reckon Liverpool v Palace will be a high scoring affair? Benteke to be in the points? Point to prove again like

    1. Atwood
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      High scoring draw again I think

    2. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      3-2 Palace.

    3. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Hope so. Zaha to redeem himself with a brace

    4. Sterling is £11Mill..…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      yea I think probably 4 or 5 goals also with Benteke to cause them problems in the air

  26. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    top 10k for the first time. that would be wonderful

  27. arndff_
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Gabbiadini > Mounie or save?

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      save

    2. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mounie.

    3. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Depends whether your OCD allows you to go below 100.0 budget

    4. FDMS All Starz
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Gab will drop and Mounie will inc, get on the wagon

      1. Turbolag
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Are we sure Gabbi will drop. He's only at -7.8 according to FFix after the kneejerks.

  28. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfTxnnA_l90

    Omega vs Okada 3, NJPW earlier today.
    Arguably the best wrestling match ever

  29. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    FPL statistico ---- is it going to work this season?

  30. F4L
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone think Son (when fit) could cover Kane to an extent?

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      When Kane is injured, he's better as an FPL option.

    2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      To an extent but not sure he'll start every game