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The Burning Question – Do we sell or keep Kane before Gameweek 22

During this most wonderful time of the year, we’re frequently told that it is better to give than to receive.

So in the spirit of Christmas, the first in a series of Burning Questions asks whether it’s time to give Harry Kane the elbow, or continue to receive meagre points – albeit with the potential for a whole lot more – from the out of sorts Spurs talisman.

To consider this conundrum, we’ve brought together a panel of heavy-hitting Fantasy managers to team up with our regular Fantasy Football Scout contributors.

Last season’s top two in Fantasy Premier League, Ben Crabtree and Uwais Ahmed, are joined by the current leaders of both our “live” and “career” Hall of Fame – Jay Egersdorff and Peter Kouwenberg – to study the issue.

To counter balance their expertise, this week our very own Mark takes his turn to debate our first festive Burning Question – do we sell or keep Harry Kane before Gameweek 22?

Jay Says…

For me it’s a short-term keep.

Harry Kane faces Stoke City and Brighton in quick succession – and both at home.

Likewise, he has no Champions League duties to worry about midweek as Spurs are though as group winners already and I’d expect Mauricio Pochettino to rest a number of key players.

They desperately need to get back on track in the league; their title bid is all but gone while the Champions League places are slowly drifting away too.

Yes, they’ve had a rocky patch, but I’m expecting Spurs to return to the mean.

Look at Everton a fortnight ago – people were backing them for a relegation battle, but two wins inside a week has seen them back in mid-table, which is a more accurate reflection of their default status.

Two good home matches in a week is a similar opportunity for Spurs, and I see them earning maximum points, with Kane a key architect.

As regards the Double Gameweek 22, I think it would be wise to have a free transfer carried over from Gameweek 16 or 17.

This would allow a Kane downgrade ahead of Man City and then Burnley away – two fixtures where, if he’s still off form, you’d expect long odds for him to regain his scoring streak against two mean defences.

The second free transfer would enable you to redistribute the money freed up by selling Kane as another forward might emerge by then.

It’s fair to say that Alvaro Morata is currently the only nailed-on big hitter and he’s sat on four yellows – another argument for the idea of a short-term Kane ‘wait and see’ option.

Peter Says…

Just over a third of us have blindly gone from week to week increasingly desperate that Spurs’ own ’Arry Kane must be about to rediscover the form which has brought him matching Premier League Golden Boots.

And week after week, the naked truth has been that Kane – and Spurs – are more pinchbeck than prolific this season.

Captaincy options aside, this game is about finding value.

At 12.8, the striker is the FPL Goliath for price, yet 17 players are within ten points of him (and many ahead of Kane’s 82), while Mohamed Salah is disappearing over the horizon with a 31-point advantage.

Significantly for Kane’s owners, that collection includes Pascal Großs (6.0), Richarlison (6.6) and Aaron Ramsey (7.2).

Put bluntly, the value now lies in midfield and defence, and the output of the premium strikers no longer justifies the heavy investment required.

For me, Kane will probably be handed his P45 before Spurs visit the Etihad in Gameweek 18.

No doubt he’ll score before returning to my squad for that alluring Double Gameweek 22, but so will many other options who cost half Kane’s fee and will allow me to strengthen all round for the hectic Christmas period.

Ben Says…

Given the double in Gameweek 22, where he should be essential (we’ll see), transferring him out means using two free transfers out of the next seven on one player.

In fact, it might work out at more than two transfers as that 12-something million gets spread around the team: bye bye Elliot, hello De Gea; bye bye Loftus-Cheek, hello Ramsey etc.

Factor in the potential points Kane can get against Stoke City, Brighton and Southampton and it’s a simple decision to keep him for most managers.

However, if you want to do better than most managers, could a Kane sacrifice be rewarded by the FPL gods with differential captain points and multiple player upgrades?

I actually think yes, there will be a few ways to make ditching more profitable than keeping. It’s just extremely risky and difficult to find them.

There are against the grain, ahead of the curve and differential decisions to make that fly you up the rankings, but for me this isn’t one of them.

Selling is a high risk, low probability move. Captain Kane against Stoke for me, because definitely this time he’s definitely “due”.

Uwais Says…

If you look at the fixtures in isolation from now until Double Gameweek 22, you would say that there are some real opportunities for Kane to fire – and fire big.

However, we are now approaching the halfway mark of the season, and I believe that it is proving increasingly difficult to justify his selection until those double fixtures.

He sits second only to Alvaro Morata in the forward standings, but the fact is that given his relatively pedestrian returns of late, his price tag is just too restrictive when considering what else that money could do with our squads.

We now have enough of a sample size from Spurs’ performances so far this season, and the fact is that they are not playing with the same attacking verve and cohesion as we have seen in recent years.

Having watched them closely recently, they seem to be playing safe and what I call ‘ball to feet’ football and Kane does not look as threatening as in previous seasons.

For his price tag of 12.8, you would expect consistent points and occasionally explosive returns.

Given the fact that other premium players such as Hazard, Coutinho, Firmino and Sanchez are now showing signs of life and we also have consistent performers in Salah and De Bruyne to turn to, the fact is that those funds are probably best placed elsewhere at present.

Until Gameweek 22, that is!

Mark Says…

It seems all kinds of wrong to lose faith in Kane.

But such a view is part of my own DNA. While somewhat “maverick” and aggressive as a Fantasy manager, I’m also known to cling to the comfort of FPL’s “top asset”, whoever that might be. Whether it’s Robin van Persie or Sergio Aguero, historically, I’m all over them.

So I’m a Kane zealot, deciding to sacrifice him feels like a wrench and against my instincts.

I can’t deny that I’m tempted, and that the decision to keep him could well scupper my season.

Typically, I turn to statistics to justify my viewpoints and the same applies here.

As we mentioned in The Digest earlier today, after 15 Gameweeks Kane has scored goals at exactly the same rate at the same point in his 29-goal Golden Boot season.

However, this season he’s fired shots at double the frequency (15.2 minutes vs 30.4 minutes) and, for all the talk on the quality of his shots, he’s had 12 big chances to last season’s seven at this stage.

That screams for me to sit tight and wait for Kane’s natural goalscoring instincts to kick back in.

So that’s what I’ll do, perhaps until Gameweek 21 when, if I can somehow manoeuvre to have two free transfers, I’ll be shipping him out temporarily.

If there was a compelling straight swap, I might just reconsider for his tougher short-term fixtures. However, selling him on and redistributing the funds over my squad – which is surely a necessity – doesn’t appeal when I know I’ll want and need him back.

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  1. konrad.sygula95
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Morning guys!

    Pope/Elliot
    Christensen/Gomez/Simpson/Naughton/Daniels
    Silva/Salah/Eriksen/GroB/Caroll
    Lukaku/Firmino/Morata

    1 FT 0.0 ITB

    What would you do with this squad ? Any ideas ?

    1. Sjaugen
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Silva out for Hazard.
      Fund it by dropping Lukaku

      1. konrad.sygula95
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Best replacement for Lukaku ?

        1. Sjaugen
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          9-10m is a shitty price point for strikers sadly. Ideally you want Lacazette, but that's a trip down hitsville

  2. Sjaugen
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    So; I'm the fool who brought in Niasse last weekend. But he will see gametime right?
    Preferense on
    a/ Niasse (5.0) ➡ DLC (5.2) and roll with 3-4-3
    b/ Stephens (4.5) ➡ RLC (4.6 and BOU) and do a 3-5-2

    1. eazy
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Im thinking of getting DLC in as well, not sure whats the pecking order for Allardyce though

    2. La Gazzetta
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I think ideally you'd want both to rotate. I'd do B first and A later? Price of DCL will probably rise faster than RLC though

  3. eazy
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Bottomed:
    Is it dumb move to get rid of Firmino now? Only way to afford Haz for me :/

    1. Sjaugen
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I'd do it to get Hazard. Dropping Firmino is a bitter pill. Both of them have their hot/cold streaks though

    2. Goat
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Do it. Haz is in unreal form. Firmino may not score again for a month

    3. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Im considering KDB out to enable Hazard... another move that could backfire but think he has to be done

  4. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Is Sane to Ramsey a sensible move?

    1. Sjaugen
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      On current form go ahead. Cheaper as well

    2. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I'd rather a switch to countinho if you can afford

    3. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Sane could easily punish you.

      Big Manchester derby and then Swansea the following week?

  5. MASTER ROSHI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Does Kane + C-moting > Firmino + KDB sound like a sensible transfer?

    1. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I'm considering dumping KDB to enable Hazard... why are you bringing in? Kane out is risky too with next couple of fixtures

    2. La Gazzetta
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      If you're dropping Kane that is probably the way to do it. At least it will probably only be 2 trades to get him back in if need be. I won't be losing him yet though

  6. eazy
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Too bad there are no real fantasy assets from West Ham because that fixture list from GW18 to GW27 looks tasty 🙁

    1. Goat
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I’m thinking cresswell from that dgw onward

    2. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Adrian if nailed perhaps... lanzini? Nah, you're right

      1. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Adrian will be straight back to the bench this weekend

        1. David Brains - OH NO!
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Probably right

          1. Sánchez
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 4 months ago

            British managers all seem to love Joe Hart regardless of what he does

        2. Pep says
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Comment saved

          1. Sánchez
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 4 months ago

            Okay ...

  7. konrad.sygula95
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Would you do Silva & Lukaku ---> Hazard & Vardy ?
    Already have Firmino and Morata in line-up.

    1. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Solid move imo - but lots are selling Vardy

  8. Reckoner.
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Does anyone know of a good way of Weighting teams fixtures?

    For example Manchester City have a better chance of beating Manchester United this week than Bournemouth do the following week. I'm wanting to apply a weighting to reflect that but not quite sure how to go about it.

    Thinking of applying a weekly ranking based on the Table standings that week but not sure how to apply both teams weighting to come out with a final figure.

    1. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Just use the ticker and adjust it as you see fit

    2. Cookie Kid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Fpl app weights them for you

  9. David Brains - OH NO!
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Fabianski (Elliot) 
    Naughton Mee Daniels (Mustafi, Mariappa) 
    Richarlison Zaha KDB Salah (RLC) 
    Morata Vardy Kane 

    I had a really good week followed by a really bad week (i.e. no Hazard) but feel like the team is (or was) pretty well balanced - what do we reckon?

    A) KDB + Mustafi --> Hazard + Moreno (-4)
    B) Save FT and re-assess next week

    1. mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      A or some kind of move involving Zaha and Vardy for Hazard

      1. David Brains - OH NO!
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks... involves an 8 point hit with vardy zaha mustafi transfer... something to consider though

  10. mikess
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Appreciate your thoughts on my best options...

    Foster, Elliot
    Otamendi, Daniels, Mee, Azpilicueta, Mbemba
    Hazard, Salah, Sane, Carroll, RLC
    Kane, Morata, Abraham

    2FT. 0.2 ITB
    A) Elliott & Abraham > Pope/Pickford & DCL
    B) Sane & Abraham > Coutinho & DCL
    C) Sane & Carroll > 2 from Ramsey, Gross, Shaqiri & Lingard
    D) Elliott & Sane > Pickford/De Gea & Ramsey
    E) Some other dream combo

    1. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I like the look of B

      1. mikess
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers

    2. kanat_karktl
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      B. I trying to get Coutinho into my team as well

    3. La Gazzetta
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I'd go B or C depending if you want to play 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 most weeks. Ramsey and Shaqiri or lingard for an even bigger punt. Can downgrade Abraham to DCL later and when you know more about his security?

  11. Rex Lapis
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Silva + Sane + Wilson > Ramsey + Hazard + Murray for a hit
    Yay or Nay?

    1. mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Looks good, scary getting rid of City assets but rotation will be intense over Xmas

    2. La Gazzetta
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I would. Hazard looks like he's on fire and Ramsey is worth getting in too

  12. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Azpi Daniels Silva -> Kenny Dunk Hazard (-4)

    Mental?

    1. mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Klavan over dunk?

      1. FPL ZB
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Might just switch Silva for Richarlison and risk no hazard instead

    2. La Gazzetta
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Not crazy but if they are your best 2 defenders and don't have much else back there then it may be too risky

  13. jazzy30
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    guys pls help!!

    current team:

    elliot/forster
    ward/otamendi/moreno/jones/christensen
    sterling/salah/richarlison/king/rlc
    morata/jesus/kane

    0.4 itb and 2 ft.

    almost sold on Jesus+king+richarlison>> hazard+doucoure+calvert-lewin for a -4.

    what do you guys say!!!

    1. La Gazzetta
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I would rather downgrade a defender than Richarlison if possible but the move looks good. I just wouldn't want Doucoure over Richarlison

  14. llmja
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    DDG
    Daniels/S.Ward/Azpi
    RLC/Richalison/Hazard(C)/Salah(VC)
    Wilson/Kane/Morata
    Sub: Elliot Hagzazi Carroll Rangel

    1FT/0.9m In the bank

    Help me plz

    A)Daniels/Wilson to Kolasinac/DLC
    B)Richalison to Ramsey
    C)Save and Change Daniels/Wilson to Kolasinac/DLC in next week
    D)Other Suggestion

    Thank you very much

    1. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      C

    2. mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      A looks decent

  15. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Which moves are better over the next two weeks?

    A) 1st week- Sane to Ramsey
    Then 2nd week Yedlin and Wilson to Alonso and DCL-4

    B) Sane to Coutinho 1st week
    Then 2nd Yedlin and Wilson to Christensen and DCL -4

    Thanks

    1. llmja
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      B

    3. mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      B

  16. Alex1987
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you play this weekend?

    Mee v Watford or Naughton v West Brom?

    1. David Brains - OH NO!
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Naughton

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Mee

  17. kanat_karktl
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Kane + RLC out
    Morata + Lingard in for -4?

    yay/nay? why? your thoughts?

    Thanks

    1. llmja
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      No

  18. The Yorkshire Pirlo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Save FT (0 ITB) or one of the following;

    A) Azpilicueta > Christensen
    B) Sane > Ramsey
    C) Daniels > Sakho

    Pope/Elliot
    Azpi/Otamendi/Dunk/Daniels/Zeegelaar
    Hazard/Richarlison/Sane/Salah/RLC
    Kane/Morata/DCL

    1. llmja
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Save

  19. John wick
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Plss giys need ur help

    1.is silva out for derby..if yes then the best replacement
    2. Is shaw nailed on after yest performance

    1. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      1. Not sure yet. Sterling/Coutinho
      2. Don't think so.

    2. johnnys balloons
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      1) Pep says he might play but for replace Ramsey or Sterling. If you have money that it could be Coutinho
      2) No, Young is the first option

  20. james 101
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Pope. Elliot.
    Mustafi. Mee. Azpili. Duffy. Hune.
    Hazard. Salah. Sterling. KDB. Coutinho.
    Morata. Naisse. Murray.

    £0.7 in the bank.

    A. Mustafi to 6.1m (who?!).
    B. Hune to 4.6m (who?!)
    C. Something else (what?!)
    D. Stick

    (If I did A to Zeeg I could upgrade Pope to DDG and still have cash to upgrade hune sometime)

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      A looks good

      1. james 101
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers

    2. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Do Mustafi to Kiko and upgrade to DDG after this gw

  21. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Most teams look similar in here. Templates starting to emerge.

    1. james 101
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Mine (above) is a little different?

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      How is template looking?

      1. ZeBestee
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        DDG/Elliot/Fab
        Chelsea (Azpi/Christ) Daniels Ward/Mee Ota 5th
        Sane/Sterl Hazard Salah RLC Richarlison/Gross
        Kane Morata DCL/Niasse/Wilson

        1. ZeBestee
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          add Pope to the GK etc

        2. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Good to see I have only 6 with one of them being Niasse 😛

          1. ZeBestee
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 4 months ago

            yeah better

        3. wbm
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          I have 13 in that template if counting Mariappa as 5th defender.

          All I'm missing is keeper and Chelsea def. And after my ft this week I might have one of those as well so up to 14 then.

          That's kinda boring haha.

  22. SoccerBoi69
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Is Azpi still worth the extra money over Christensen? It looks as though Christensen COULD be due a little Conte rotation (I was thinking of a little ghetto gospel and yeah...) as he's played more minutes recently than Azpi, Cahill and Rudiger. However the lower price makes any possible rotation easier to accept. *I'm hoping it's this weekend

    Christensen has looked dangerous attacking wise lately, and as Moses/Zapp cover RWB, Azpi's attacking potential could lessen. The extra funds would allow me to switch from Morata to Lukaku (if needed) as I already own Hazard.

    TL;DR: Azpi > Christensen?

  23. 328345
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Hello,

    My team after a drastic -8!

    Gomes (Elliot)
    Moreno Monreal Mee (Kiko Daniels)
    Surman Hazard Salah Zaha Sterling
    Kane Morata (Niasse)

    Questions:
    Who to captain? Haz, Salah, Kane, Morata
    Am I right benching Kiko and Daniels?
    How do I improve my team for the Christmas period?

    Thanks in advance

  24. The Left Duke #3
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Morning all. Just wondering what peoples frontline is at the mo and if they will stick with this through the rotation heavy next 3 weeks?

    I'm currently on Kane Morata Aguero but thinking Aguero needs to go but debating whether to bring Firmino or go cheap and 352. The problem with 352 I feel is there isn't many nailed cheapies. Niasse/CL and Wilson/King/Defo will rotate which leaves Abraham which is pretty gri.

    Thoughts?

    1. MesQueUnClub
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Think one of those Everton cheapies still worth getting for the upside of getting rid of Kun for great midfielder. You don't need every bench player playing every GW anyway. If you have non-playing defender then slightly different story...

      Murray also decent option.

      1. The Left Duke #3
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Ya you're probably right. I'm gutted I didn't use my 2 FT last week on Carroll and Aguero to Hazard and DCL. I'm a bit hesitant in taking a hit to do it now but I have the exact cash now so any price changes affects the move. Could always save the FT and pull the trigger immediately after the deadline for the midweek game

  25. jazzy30
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    richarlison+king+jesus>>> hazard+calvert-lewin+doucoure for -4?? looks ok...suggestions?

  26. MesQueUnClub
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Simple question - Gomes or Lössl?

    Like Watford's fixtures more, but Lössl will probably get more saves and bonus.

    1. SKENG
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I went with Gomes - considered Ryan as well.

  27. Hobolicious
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    I have a couple of dilemmas, your thoughts?

    1) FFIX favours Duffy over Otamendi quite heavily, but I am not sure I agree. Who would you bench out of these two (I also have Mee and Christensen)?

    2) If I get Hazard in for Sterling I have to "downgrade" Vardy. If you had max 6.6m for a striker, who would it be?

    1. MesQueUnClub
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      1) Otamendi
      2) CL(if you don't have a non-playing defender) / Murray and bank the cash

  28. ZeBestee
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    will you start Ward (WAT) or Otamendi (utd) ?

    1. Goat
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I’ve both. Starting Otamendi with ward first sub

      1. ZeBestee
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        thanks mate

  29. Jarnathan
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Which 3/4 defenders to play? RLC as 5th Mid

    Dunk (hud), Naughton (WBA), Moreno (EVE), Mustafi (sou), Zeegalar (bur)

  30. LewanGOALski
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    good-to-go for the next week?

    Pope
    Otamendi | Mustafi | Mee
    Hazard (vc) | Salah | Sterling | Richarlison | RLC
    Kane © | Morata

    Elliot – DCL – Zeegelaar – Daniels

    1. ZeBestee
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Daniels over Mee