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The Technical Area – Expected Goals Prevented

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Regular readers of the Technical Area articles will no doubt be familiar with expected goals (xG), a key metric introduced to the Fantasy Football Scout Members’ area this year as a means of estimating goal scoring returns on the basis of chance quality.

This week, however, we are flipping our focus to examine the top goalkeepers over this year’s campaign and to introduce, for the first time, our related keeper-specific metric: expected goals prevented (xGP).

In brief, this data tallies the quantity and quality of chances a goalkeeper is faced with, in order to calculate a baseline of their expected goals conceded. From this number, we subtract the true number of goals that have beaten each goalkeeper, in order to determine the expected goals they have personally deterred.

This week’s Technical Area will be running the rule over how FPL’s highest-owned goalkeepers have performed in this particular metric thus far.

We also take a wider view of the position as it now stands, in light of the recent uncertainty surrounding the pitch time of budget-friendly options such as Rob Elliot and Julian Speroni.

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  1. Scheister
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    2 FT's ...any suggested moves here? Cheers

    Pope (Elliot)
    Alonso Daniels Ward (Mustafi) (Mariappa)
    Salah Sane Sterling Richarlison RLC
    Kane(C) Morata (Niasse)

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    1. Stef rocks
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I would get rid of Daniels and probably save other Ft - how much ITB?

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      1. Scheister
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        0.1

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      2. Scheister
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Daniels at Palace is pretty nice on paper, after this week will definitely be ditching him though

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    2. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Downgrade Alonso to upgrade Sané to Hazard.

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    3. Gruu
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Mustafi -> Kiko
      Sane -> Hazard

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    4. Mackans
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Mustafi,Alonso,Sane -> Moreno,Christensen and Hazard.

      I think Hazard is essential right now

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  2. Nubi
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Stupid question but who is DCL? 😀

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    1. Leonard hatred
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Everton striker.

      DLC stands for Downloadable Content, you need to pay EA sports £20 to get him in FPL.

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      1. Odikostar
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        +1

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    2. J T
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Calvert Lewin

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    3. I Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I think you mean LCD. It stands for Liquid Crystal Display.

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    4. Surfeit of Lampteys
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Deuterium chloride

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    5. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

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    6. Bury94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      It's also a taxi insurance company

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    7. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      It's Ruben's lesser known relative, Duben Cheek-Loftus

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    8. JJO
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Its Dub Chipmonk Lingard

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      1. Odikostar
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        +1

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    9. Nubi
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      That escalated quickly 😀

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      1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Bit of fun of course - Best_07 was right!

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    10. Alex_thekid
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Ask a stupid question get stupid answers lol 😉

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  3. The Head-Ake
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Fabianski
    Daniels. Christensen. Ward.
    Hazard. Salah. Richarlison. Sterling.
    Morata. Kane. Murray

    Bench : Elliot. Moreno. Cork. Duffy. 1FT and 0.6 ITB. GTG? Thoughts on this?

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    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      get rid of daniel

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      1. The Head-Ake
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        After this GW sure, but for now? Is the benching order right?

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        1. Stef rocks
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          I would play Moreno over Daniels - much bigger chance of CS and bonus points respectively - Daniels could outs ore only if he scores (can’t see Bor keeping a CS)

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    2. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Save and Kane (c)?

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      1. The Head-Ake
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Hazard's performance yesterday confuses me. He was phenomenal but I might go Mavericks

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        1. Differential C (Mark)
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah, Im (c)ing Haz only cuz I decided to rage transfer Kane out for Morata.

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    3. Gruu
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      GTG. Keep FT

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    4. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      might play duffy and moreno than ward and daniels....but it is tight call

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  4. Mackans
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    How can i do my team better in the coming gameweeks?

    Hennessey
    Alonso Ward Daniels
    Hazard Salah Sterling Richarlison RLC
    Kane Morata

    Bench: Elliot Kenny Marriappa Quaner
    0,0mil IB

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    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      It's pretty solid, doubt there are any suggestions that would be likely to improve it based on current available information.

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  5. Mr. Rabbit
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    My big question from this article is how is xG On Target Conceded calculated? If it's just by adding up the xG of the shots which end up on target, that seems highly problematic in terms of being able to judge a keeper.

    As Mike Goodman, who is much cleverer than me about xG and modelling than I am, says in the replies below this tweet on the subject - https://twitter.com/TheM_L_G/status/937720897867218946 - xG measures what happens until the ball leaves the foot of the shooting player. It's a measure of how good you would expect the shot to be, not what that shot was actually like, and it certainly doesn't account for the placement of the shot.

    Take Charlie Daniels goal against Man City. Terrifically low xG because it was highly unlikely to be on target, but he hit it so well it became almost impossible to save. If that comes out as -0.95 xGP (1 goal conceded - 0.05 xG on target) just from that shot, that would really tell us very little.

    Conversely there are plenty of times a high xG shot is taken from right in front of the goal, but hit straight at the (often unaware) keeper. Now you might argue that these things average out, as has been shown with xG, but I'm not aware of any available work to show this applies to expected goals prevented. Given how relatively few shots on target happen in a football match, we're also dealing with quite a low sample size.

    Finally, as it applies to FPL, if the conclusion is that DDG has conceded way fewer goals than expected, therefore this bodes well for scoring FPL points, I'm not sure I'd agree with that either. What it suggests to me is that DDG's save rate (and therefore clean sheet rate) is likely unsustainable. Even the very best goalscorers (Messi/Ronaldo etc) have only ever managed to average a max of about 1.2 goals per 1 xG. Unless the quality of keepers in the premier league varies an awful lot more than the quality of shooters, DDG's rating should tend towards the mean, if the xGP stat really does have any predictive value, which is what I'm after as a fantasy manager.

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    1. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Tl;dr

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      1. Annie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        I'll summarise for you...
        1) How is xG on target conceded calculated?
        2) It's hard to get a true measure.
        2) Ergo, I don't trust it and am ignoring.

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        1. Annie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          there are 2 point 2's intentionally 🙂

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      2. Mr. Rabbit
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Well then goodness only knows how you cope with any of the articles on this website.

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      3. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Hope your rod is strong enough (oo-er) to reel in a Rabbit...

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    2. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I believe the Shot on Target xG value differs to regular xG as it measures the difficulty of the shot, not the difficulty of the chance.

      Eg: Morata's shot vs Stoke is measured, not the difficulty of him running 50 yards before shooting. They are two different values, we have them both but are currently only showing xG not shot on target xG in our members area. I'll get that addressed.

      I'd need to look up the value for the Daniels goal. Like you say, I think it's low therefore, yes, in terms of xG Prevented, the keeper would normally be expected to be able to save a shot from that range and angle.

      Having said that, it's a bit of an outlier - not a common goal type I would say.

      It's a fascinating subject and, sadly, I'm not able to contribute fully to this discussion at this moment in time. It would be one I'd want to pass back to Opta for their view, too. I agree though, that perhaps judging a keeper vs xG Shot on Target is not ideal and perhaps Opta need to come up with something else in order to get this metric more accurate.

      Even so, I still believe the results and analysis are very interesting.

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      1. Mr. Rabbit
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Yes, it's certainly interesting, and almost certainly an improvement on raw save percentage as a measure for keeper quality.

        If Opta can (or have) come up with a model for expected saves that would be the logical next step. However in football and ice hockey, another of my favourite sports, goalkeepers have a weird kind of voodoo where advanced stats have thus far been largely unable to reliably quantify them.

        If the model Opta are using does produce a number distinct from the xG number, maybe you could suggest they call it xSaves, as shot on target xG just sounds like the sum of the xG of all shots that ended up on target.

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    3. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Eye test - DDG is a God in a side with the best defensive mindset and coach. Even against the better attacking sides he then kicks in with saves.

      If you have the cash free - buy. You will not be disappointed.

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    4. Ludo
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I don't know exactly how OPTA's xG Shot On Target works, but its a lot more sophisticated than just taking the xG of a shot on target.

      I think it reflects the quality of the shot somehow, not the quality of the chance, as xG does.

      It correlates with goals MUCH more strongly than xG, or any other stat for that matter.

      To use your example, the xG of Daniels' shot was 0.03, but th xG On Target was 0.74.

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      1. Mr. Rabbit
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks. It's very useful to have concrete number examples like that.

        In that case, my question would be whether xGP tends towards the mean as xG does. As I said I struggle to believe the quality of keepers would vary more than that of shooters. I would love to see the data for the whole of last season, or over a number of years, to get an idea of what it looks like with a bigger sample size.

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        1. Ludo
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          xGP is calculated from xG On Target - not the same thing as xG. You'd need to ask OPTA for a full definition of how its calculated (I haven't been able to find one), but from that Daniels example, my best guess is that it takes into account the probability of scoring from the placement of the shot (i.e. where 'on target' the shot was - top corner being best, low and central being worst), with less reliance than xG on the position on the field the shot is taken from.

          As you say, the very best goalscorers like Messi and Ronaldo can outscore their xG - it isn't too difficult to figure out why - xG just tells you how good the opportunity is for an average player - an elite player will be a better finisher than the average player, and make more of those chances. Is the same true of xG On Target? I'm not sure - but from the eye test, it seems that quality finishers who can consistently hit the corners of the goal fare better than they do with xG.

          What I'm saying is that the proper comparison needs to be between xG On Target and xGP, not xG and xGP. Whether or not xG On Target reverts to the mean, I have no idea. The issue, as you identified, is sample size - we only have data for this season in the Members Area, and shots on target make up only around a third of all shots, whereas xG of course covers every attempt made.

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          1. casualnutpi
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 4 months ago

            My guess is it just uses the subset of shot data which is on target for their calculation of expected goals. Which of course will be more highly correlated with goals than xG

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  6. Legohair
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Fabianski
    Kolasinac-Daniels-Moreno
    Salah-Sane-Groß-Richarlison
    Kane(c)-Morata-Firmino

    Elliot,RLC,Mee,Fuchs
    1 FT 1.2 in the bank
    Was thinking Fuchs to Christesen maybe?or somehow Sane to Hazard?

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  7. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Fab
    Moreno Kola Kiko
    Gross Salah Hazard Ramsey Sterling
    Morata Kane (c)

    Elliot Dcl Francis Mbemba

    Good to go for weekend?

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  8. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    By next Monday I'm hoping to end up with

    Fabs
    Moreno Christensen Ward Kiko Daniels
    Richarlison Hazard Salah RLC Carroll

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    1. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Morata Vardy Kane

      Is that a good thing to aim for? Uses my next 3 FTs (1 this week, 2 on Monday)

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    2. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      That is legit my team except for Kikon and RLC. Not sure of Vardy though tbf

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  9. Kane Train
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Ramsey or Mahrez for David Silva

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    1. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      ramsey...just think mahrez is a bit pricey....

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    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Ramsey by far, better option and cheaper too, which is why I'd say by far

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    3. Stef rocks
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Better get a pool Mid if you can afford (Cout, Mane)

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  10. machickenz
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Room for Hazard? 2 FT 0.2 ITB
    Courtois Elliot
    Otamendi Moreno Naughton Clark Mbemba
    Sanchez Salah Sane RLC Cork
    Kane Morata Calvert

    a) Kane + Cork out > Murray + Hazard in 0.9 ITB
    b) Kane + Sane out > Lacazette + Hazard in 0.7 ITB
    c) Morata + Sane out > Vardy + Hazard in 0.1 ITB
    d) Morata + Sane out > Firmino + Hazard in 0.2 ITB
    e) Kane + Sane + Clark out > Vardy + Hazard + Kolasinac 0.7 ITB (-4 hit)
    f) Kane + Sane + Clark out > Firmino + Hazard + Kolasinac 0.8 ITB (-4 hit)

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    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn't lose Kane and Morata to Hazard + options feel sideways.

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    2. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      a

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  11. George James
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Best keeper / Defender combo up to 9.1m ??

    Rest of back line is...

    Xxxx / Pereria
    Xxxx / Azpil / Mee / Mustafi / Huney

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    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      begovic and Kiko?

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      1. George James
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Bournemouth fixtures are nasty.

        How about Gomes and Gomez 🙂

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        1. Differential C (Mark)
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 4 months ago

          Plausible, what about GOmez and Simpson? Simpson seems more nailed than Gomez.
          Also, what do you think of Darlow (4.4m)?

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          1. Differential C (Mark)
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 4 months ago

            *Gomes

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  12. HurriKane
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Sees this stat. Cries in a corner 😉 Not sure im gonna captain Kane any time soon again (apart from dgw22)

    Harry Kane captain 7 times = 58 points (average 8.3 points)

    Lukaku(3) + Aguero(1) captained 4 times = 72 points (average 18 points)

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  13. Differential C (Mark)
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    A

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    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      reply fail to MAchikenz

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  14. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Just to throw oil on the Kane (C) fire - the last 3 times Spurs and Stoke have played in the Prem Spurs have won 4-0.

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    1. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I captained him for it last year when his ownership was relatively low. Was the best day of my FPL life

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    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      6 goals and 1 assist in 7 games against Stoke for Kane

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    3. Ode
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Spurs have scored 4 goals in their last 6 games. Form over fixture

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      1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Some like cold hard facts, some like things like bogey teams, hoodoos etc...

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  15. Athletic Nasherbo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Which combination is better?

    A) Alonso and Ramsey
    B) Christensen and Coutinho

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    1. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      b but gametime issue would be problem

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  16. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Play one from following (Alonso Daniels other defenders)

    A Ward (means double Burnley with Ward)
    B Fernández if confirmed back fro sad loss
    C Kenny

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    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      * Pope in goal

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    2. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      a the obvious choice

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    3. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I would go B with A first sub

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    4. wulfrunian
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      a

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  17. Atwood
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Any good FPL extensions/scripts for Chrome? Already using BetterFPL.

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  18. Sims
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Would u do Kolasinac > Christensen if u had 2 FTs and absolutely no other moves to make?

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    1. Ratatouille
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      No

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    2. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      yeah

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    3. Podge
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Nah

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    4. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      No

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    5. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn't. Kola is equal to Alonso..

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  19. Scheister
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    2 FT's
    Thinking Sane>Hazard and Alonso>Zanka
    Worth it? Chelsea will be keeping some clean sheets, and Sane could score a few too... But Hazarrrrrd?

    Pope (Elliot)
    Alonso Daniels Ward (Mustafi) (Mariappa)
    Salah Sane Sterling Richarlison RLC
    Kane(C) Morata (Niasse)

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    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Would do.

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  20. Mackans
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    How can i do my team better i the coming gameweeks?

    Hennessey
    Alonso Ward Femenia
    Hazard Salah Sterling Richarlison RLC
    Kane Morata

    Bench: Elliot Kenny Marriappa Quaner
    0 ft right now- 0,0mil IB

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    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      A really strong 11 so well done. That bench could become an issue especially over the festive games. Could do Richarlison to Doucoure in the future to upgrade Quaner/Mariappa

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  21. leonickroberts
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Courtois (Speroni)
    Gomez Ward Mariappa (Ota, Kenny)
    Salah Gross Richarlison Sane Silva
    Morata Kane (Tammy)

    Worth doing Silva+Sane > Hazard+Shaqiri/Young for -4?

    Also - which keeper to start this week!?
    a) Courtois (whu)
    b) Speroni (BOU)

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    1. Mackans
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Start the safe Courtois because Speroni may not start

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    2. Baz
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      always courtois

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  22. aidmata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Elliot* Foster

    Naughton Christensen Mbemba* Cedric* Mee

    Richarlison Salah Sterling Carroll* Hazard

    Kane Morata Niasse*

    1FT 1.4ITB

    Best transfers for this week? Obviously a few issues needing sorting out but quite tempted to save. Any suggestions guys?

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Take a hit it’s nearly Xmas 😉

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  23. CRO KLOPP
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Need some advice
    Who to bench here(2 of them)?
    A) Wilson
    B) RLC
    C) Duffy
    D) Otamendi
    E) Daniels
    F) Naughton
    Cheers and GL

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    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      E and F

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    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      CE

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  24. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Is it worth getting Hazard if it means you have 0 Man City players for the next few weeks?

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    1. Alonso The Great Midfielder
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      go for it

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    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Yes Hazard is the most important pick at present, best captain pick at present and an endless run of good to great fixtures

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    3. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      ye that what I'm doing, with their fixtures and with other teams lining up defensively I don't think they'll be as explosive/reliable for points
      they area still good options but having hazard is more important right now imo

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  25. We Will Klopp you
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    What's your feel on RLC? Is he just the best 4.5m mid for the bench or someone potentially worth starting when he has a good fixture with a good chance of getting something?

    I ask this because I don't trust Bournemouth defensively or want to double up on Burnley v Richarlison, so might give RLC a shot.

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    1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      My 4th mid - though was happier when he was playing as a 10 pre Zaha, less effective out wide. For this reason I will be going for a power 5 midfield over next few weeks...

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      1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Very good 5th mid though if no budget for one..

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    2. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      Think he's a bench player as we're not in a massive need of extra funds this year, but he might get something against bournemouth

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    3. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      bench player generally but I would consider him in some fixtures

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  26. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    with this article in mind now unsure which way to go?

    A - pope, coutinho, kenny
    B - DDG, ramsey, Moreno (or other 4.7 ish def)

    have salah an haz

    thx all

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      A

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      1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        thanks, most people seem to be swaying this way, I suppose I can always downgrade

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  27. HD7
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Team for next GW - Right order of team and Captain?

    Fabianski
    Walker Mustafi Daniels
    Sterling Richarlison Salah Hazard RLC
    Kane(C) Morata

    Subs: Elliot, Mee, DCL, Mbemba

    Mee in for... one of the 3 at the back?

    Want to play Mee but don know who to put out from the first team?

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    1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I'm leaning towards kane unless salah is rested tonight in which case I'll be torn
      was going hazard but he gave a lot last night and think he'll have his minutes managed at the weekend
      think your bench order Is right, and mee may come on anyway for mustafi

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    2. DenDanskeDuo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      I might lean towards Mee over Daniels? But as Shotgun says, he might autosub on anyways..

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  28. DenDanskeDuo
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Elliot / Pope
    Alonso / Moreno / Maguire / Monreal / Mee
    Hazard / Salah / Ramsey / RLC / T Carrol
    Morata / Kane / Niasse

    0,9 itb and 1 ft.

    Any ideas for improvements the next few gw's? Cheers

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    1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      i think with the amount of high scoring midfielders you are doing yourself a disservice with your current midfield
      i would look to upgrade carrol. maybe to a gross/richarlison type

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      1. DenDanskeDuo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        I've been thinking the same, would require me to downgrade a defender and waiting for another free transfer though.. Could be manageable with Monreal to watford defender or the like.. And then TC to one of your suggestions.

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  29. tafrère
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    With Kiko Femenia (4.6) and Zeegelaar (4.4/4.5) much likely to be subject to rotation in one of the next 3 gameweeks is Kabasele (4.5) the best option among Watford defenders ?

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    1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      why kiko?

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      1. tafrère
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 4 months ago

        Because Janmaat is an option to let him rest GW17 imo.

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    2. Pep says
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 4 months ago

      So long as you have a backup defender, I wouldn't worry

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  30. Strchld
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 4 months ago

    Do we expect Silva play in derby os is he really injured?

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