Awards

End of Season Awards – The Forwards

After analysing the Goalkeepers, Defenders and Midfielders, we turn our attentions to the best performing Forwards of the 2014/15 season this evening.

Once again, we’ve released a poll in the middle column of the homepage to collect your votes – please remember that each person can cast three votes this time around.

Bear in mind that the vote is from an overall Fantasy perspective – overall points, price, performances and value across the Fantasy games should all come into consideration.

Before we take a look at this year’s contenders, let’s cast an eye over the fortunes of last season’s front two of choice.

2013/14 Fantasy Football Scout Team of the Season Review
Goalkeeper Vito Mannone
DefendersSeamus Coleman, John Terry, Laurent Koscielny, Joel Ward
MidfieldersSteven Gerrard, Aaron Ramsey, Yaya Toure, Eden Hazard
ForwardsLuis Suarez, Daniel Sturridge

Liverpool’s SAS were the main men last time around, as Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge ran top-flight backlines ragged. The Uruguayan 30 goals, 25 assists and 40 bonus points helped him rack up 295 points in the FPL game – 79 points ahead of Sergio Aguero, this season’s top scoring frontman – before Barcelona spirited him away to the Nou Camp.

Sturridge, meanwhile, has succumbed to a variety of injuries which have limited him to just 12 league appearances. Managing a mere 46 points, courtesy of four goals and three assists, his propensity for picking up injuries places major question marks over Sturridge’s ability to replicate his 2013/14 heroics, which saw him rack up 22 goals and eight assists alongside Suarez as Rodgers’ men came desperately close to clinching the title.

Sergio Aguero

Eased into action after the World Cup, Aguero set the tone for what was to follow by netting in each of City’s two fixtures as a sub. By the time he limped off against Everton in early December, the Argentine had netted 14 times in the first 14 Gameweeks as his price climbed from 12.0 to 12.9. Upon his return from injury, though, Aguero struggled to rediscover his displays until a change of formation allowed him to run riot in the final couple of months of the campaign. Finishing the season on 26 goals, Aguero also chipped in with ten assists in FPL on his way to his highest ever score of 216 points – second only to Eden Hazard overall. Aguero also ended the season as the number one forward in the Daily Telegraph and Sky Sports games and sits second behind Harry Kane in the Sun Dream Team.

Harry Kane

Handed a 5.0 starting price in FPL, the youngster had dropped to a mere 4.8 by the time he emerged from the bench to notch his first league goal of the season against Villa in Gameweek 10. From that point onwards, Kane was a nailed-on starter for Spurs as he embarked on a run of 17 goals in the following 20 league matches, with seven double-figure hauls over that period underlining his captaincy credentials. Kane’s budget price tag quickly climbed as Fantasy managers clambered on board the bandwagon, with his cost peaking at 6.5 by early May. A run of two goals in the final eight Gameweeks suggests Kane was somewhat overused by Mauricio Pochettino in his breakout season and, with Euro Under 21 duties to follow, there’s little respite for the youngster over the summer. Kane went on to finish second amongst forwards in FPL and Sky, whilst earning first and fourth place in the Sun and Telegraph respectively.

Charlie Austin

In his first season in the top-flight, Austin played a part in 26 of QPR’s 42 goals, courtesy of 18 strikes and eight assists for the relegated outfit. Kicking off the campaign at a cost of 6.0, it’s somewhat surprising that the R’s striker never rose above 6.5 in FPL, bearing in mind that he didn’t blank for more than two successive matches until Gameweek 35. In spite of his side’s toils, Austin proved reliable home and away – only ten of his 18 goals were delivered at Loftus Road, with six of his final seven strikes arriving on the road. Ending the season as third top scoring forward in FPL (fourth in Sky), Austin’s endeavours will surely earn him a move back to the Premier League over the summer.

Diego Costa

Chelsea’s summer signing exploded out of the blocks, with nine goals in the opening seven Gameweeks suggesting we had Fantasy royalty on our hands. As the season progressed, though, Costa’s hamstring problems became a weekly worry for his owners, as we anxiously awaited fitness updates from Jose Mourinho every Friday afternoon. With injury and suspension blighting his pitch time, Costa’s prospects diminished as the campaign unfolded, with three goals and seven appearances from Gameweek 23 onwards edging him onto the Fantasy periphery as Eden Hazard proved the must-have Chelsea option instead. Nonetheless, 20 goals and three assists earned him a top five spot amongst forwards in the FPL and Sky games and hints at what may follow if Costa can steer clear of injury next time around.

Olivier Giroud

The Arsenal forward finished just two goals shy of last year’s 16 strikes, despite playing over 1200 minutes less in the Premier League. Having recovered from an ankle injury, Giroud cemented his spot as the Gunners’ lone striker and, after embarking on a run of nine goals and three assists between Gameweeks 22-31, looked on course to finish the season spectacularly. Giroud then reverted to the form of years gone by, drawing blanks in each of the last seven fixtures in a hugely disappointing last couple of months for the Gunners. With Theo Walcott bagging a hat-trick against West Brom yesterday, question marks must again be raised over the Frenchman’s ability to nail down a regular role for the campaign ahead.

Jamie Vardy

Starting at 5.0, the Leicester forward rocketed onto our radars with a 21-point haul against United back in Gameweek 5, courtesy of a goal and four assists in an extraordinary 5-3 win. Vardy’s season then tailed off dramatically as he managed just two more assists in the next 20 rounds of fixtures before a return to form helped spearhead his side’s incredible scramble for survival. By the time the campaign concluded, Vardy had served up more assists (12) than any other striker and with attacking returns in seven of his final ten outings, even earned himself an England call-up.

Leonardo Ulloa

Five strikes in the opening five Gameweeks, including a double against United, suggested the Foxes summer signing had instantly found his feet. As Leicester struggled for form, though, Ulloa notched just two more times in the next 27 rounds of fixtures before leading Nigel Pearson’s side to safety. By the time the campaign had ended, the Argentine had served up 11 goals and four assists, with his partnership alongside Vardy looking very promising for the season ahead. Likely to vie with his fellow Foxes forward for our attention in the low mid-price bracket, Ulloa’s likely spot-kick duties may well sway it for some.

Christian Benteke

With his season hampered by injury and Paul Lambert’s negative tactics, the Villa forward mustered a mere two goals and one assist in the opening 27 Gameweeks. The arrival of Tim Sherwood changed all that, though, as Benteke rediscovered his self-belief to net 11 times in as many matches and save his side from the drop. With the suitors circling, it remains to be seen whether the big Belgian will remain at Villa Park over the summer, though there’s no doubt that under Sherwood’s guidance, he could be lethal next time around. Given that he produced 120 points, though, there’d be no surprise if Benteke remained around his 8.0 starting price next time around.

Saido Berahino

Another bargain striker who flourished in his breakout season, Berahino was afforded a 5.5 price tag after netting five times in 2013/14. Seven strikes in the first nine Gameweeks underlined his eye for goal but the Baggies youngster struggled for form over the winter, with his starting role coming increasingly under pressure. Despite ending the campaign on 14 goals – earning him a place in the top five forwards in FPL and The Sun Dream Team – his patchy form saw him score in just one of his final ten appearances. A move into the mid-price bracket seems inevitable but many will prefer West Brom’s backline due to Tony Pulis’ impact on their defence.

Graziano Pelle

The Southampton summer signing ended the campaign amongst the top seven strikers in FPL, Sky and the Daily Telegraph games after racking up 12 goals and six assists. Pelle was quick off the mark in his debut season in the top-flight, producing six goals and four assists in the first 11 Gameweeks before his form dried up dramatically. Over the next 20 matches, the Italian mustered a mere two goals and single assist in spite of a security of pitch time that saw him start all but one of his side’s 38 league outings. With the likes of Sadio Mane pushing for our attention on midfield, the inconsistent Pelle looks hard-pushed to play his way into our plans next term.

Wayne Rooney

Despite being stationed in central midfield on many occasions, the United skipper still managed to chip in with 12 goals and five assists in Louis van Gaal’s first season in charge. Rooney was off to a decent start, with three goals and two assists in his first six, but failed to deliver with any real consistency from that point onwards – indeed, he scored just once away from Old Trafford all season. Much depends on Van Gaal’s summer shopping spree but if Rooney emerges as United’s first-choice striker again, he’ll need to improve upon a record that saw him produced just one goal and a single assist in his final eight appearances. His versatility and lack of spot-kicks hardly helps, either.

Danny Ings

With 11 goals and four assists, Ings played a part in 15 of relegated Burnley’s 28 strikes. Initially priced at 6.0, the Clarets frontman was slow to adapt to the step up from the Championship and netted just once in his first eight appearances before a double against Stoke in Gameweek 12 hinted at his potential. That brace was the start of a very consistent run from Ings, who scored or assisted in ten of the subsequent 14 matches before embarking on a ten-match barren streak which saw Burnley relegated weeks before the season ended. A move back to the top-flight looks likely, though it remains to be seen whether he’d be as nailed-on if a move to United or Liverpool transpires.

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  1. Bonus Points Breakdown 2014/15
    You Must Be Jokin Ere
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    2014/15 Bonus Points Point Stats:

    Games - 380 Total Bonus Pts - 2429 Av Bonus per Game - 6.4

    Goalkeepers: 112 (4.6%)
    Defenders: 783 (32.2%)
    Midfielders: 969 (39.9%)
    Forwards: 565 (23.3%)

    Midfielders just shy of the 40% mark - Defenders took top honours 2013/14, with Centre Backs to the fore last season. Much more of an even split among defenders this season, but overall the Midfielders have grabbed the Bap mantle, albeit due to the amount of goals they have scored.

    Baps per game down from 7.2% to 6.4 per game - less 0-0 games with a 3,3,3,3 allocation among defenders which is much more satisfactory.

    Important to look out for any Bap tweaks for next season, but for me, the 3-5-2 formation is beginning to look attractive for 2015/16 - to start with anyway- until we find a couple of Kane/Austin cheapies again next year..........................

    If I was to change one thing - reward pure defending and goalkeeping, rather than defenders who "complete passes" - example Arsenal v Sunderland Week 37.

    See you all next season!

    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Excellent analysis, cheers!

    2. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks, see you next season! 😀

    3. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Given that most Premier League teams play 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 it's no surprise to see that spread - to me that suggests the bonus allocation is extremely fair.

    4. Mr. Bean
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Also if you look in the top 20 players for total points: 11 midfielders, 4 forwards, 3 goalkeepers and 2 defenders

      1. You Must Be Jokin Ere
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers Bean. Defenders bapping above their weight at that rate.........

        (realise "bapping is not a word!)

        1. Mr. Bean
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          it is now! ha. I think it just reinforces the 3-5-2 idea, or at the very least encourages heavier investment in midfield (assuming things stay the same)

    5. MRCONTE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      hows bonus points distribution by position on 2013-2014 season?

      1. You Must Be Jokin Ere
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        My 2013/14 stats are gone, but from memory the Defenders and Midfielders %'s practically reversed.

  2. Patch
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    When is HoF going to be updated for end-of-season results?

    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Should be tomorrow - we've just ran the process.

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Top 10 in sight for you?

        1. Twelve years a slave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Looking forward to the update

          1. BeachBadger
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Another good year for you Triggs. Well done and congrats on winning the cricket too!

  3. Dušan Citizen
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Your game of the season?

    For me, it's Leicester - Man Utd.

    1. You Must Be Jokin Ere
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Spurs 5-3 Chelsea for me...........

  4. Licky
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Talk Sport seem to think Klopp or Ancelotti are options for Liverpool. :/

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Klopp is an option for sure though

      1. Licky
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Not realistically, the club is a mess, it needs to be entirely turned around, not just a bit of work, he'll want a nice project, not us. :/

        1. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          There's a non-negligible chance he'll come to us though unlike Ancelotti. Although he's on the edge of it, I think Klopp is just within the realms of possibility.

          You'd have to be a egomaniac with a messianic complex to take the Liverpool job...

          1. Licky
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            True, but I guess there'll just be better options as per usual.

        2. Puncheon Guly
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I think that's exactly the type of project Klopp'd like. Question is whether Liverpool can give him a) the budget and b) the control. They'll need to sack off that transfers panel. Oh and hope he doesn't go Madrid.

          1. Licky
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Madrid have other targets in mind, for next summer, hence the Rafa rumours for a season, same with city, so next year will see more changes at some big jobs. The thing with Liverpool is though is that the job isn't a project, it requires a large turn around, not so much what Klopp is looking for, not to mention to provide a good budget the club would have to take on more debt, which is a no-no.

  5. Jairzinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Wow, just seen Mark finished 42nd overall. Had no idea he was in contention for a top 100 finish, nevermind top 50.

    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 17 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      To be fair I do put the the hours in 😉

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Brilliant season congrats! OR 42 so significant too!

      2. The Orienteer - find me in …
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        So do I but ........

      3. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Congratulations, Mark! Always lurking!

      4. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Well done, next season my tean will be a cross between your flair and Triggers conservatism (rational non- exuberance; no hits). The stats pointing at Tadic, Mane probably made a difference.

      5. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        You are a legend for this season, but the best bit is that you have last season too, so the fallible among us will always have that to hang onto. 😉

      6. Jay_
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Well done Mark, you are 'the godfather' of la familia ffs 🙂

          Thanks for all the work you put in mate

      7. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        He's an FPL playing machine!

      8. You Must Be Jokin Ere
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        A superb finish. Wonder did he consider Walcott for Gameweek 38?? I didn't but looking back, it was a realistic punt............

        1. Duke Silver ☑
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          He did include him in his scout picks so he must've been close to getting him.

          Great bounce back from last season Mark.

    2. Tomeister
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Why does mike Ashley seem to think Newcastle can go straight from just escaping relegation to winning stuff and top four?

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I strongly suspect he doesn't.

    3. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      So proud of Ireland!
      LGBT community now have equal constitutional rights. A wave of joy washing over our country over the last 2 days.
      Marriage in Ireland available to everyone that is in love. The way it should always should have been.

      Peace out.

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Indeed, lovely stuff.

      2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        If we could just get the US to do it too, the whole western world could feel proud. 😉

        1. Pepereina Pizza
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          "the US" = United States. That's plural. There are 50 of them, each their own state, with their own laws, some more progressive than others.

          https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99a743ffa4142d9d7f1978d9686.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/files/82768/area14mp/image-20150524-32548-9ruoq5.png

          1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            I know. I'm from there, and I'm from one of the states that is not so progressive. And the fact this that as a nation the US, which has federal laws that forbid, say, race and sex discrimination, does not have similar laws for sexual orientation discrimination, and permits individual states to remain in the dark ages. Land of liberty!

            1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              *And the fact IS that . . .

      3. Duke Silver ☑
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Plus we've made the Westboro Baptist Church hate us! Win-win.

        https://vine.co/v/eqTe0jgMIT0

        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          lol saw that. Ivory Coast didn't have a referendum as far as I know. What ignorance!

        2. Licky
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Hahahaha brilliant. I didn't think much of all the self righteousness floating around but this is quality. 😀

      4. FAITHNOMORENO
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Congrats to all Irish folks.
        Love above all.

      5. andy85wsm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        It's just a shame it had to come down to a vote but still great it did.

        My 6 year old was explaining to another kid on the bus today what the vote was about and that he was a yes voter 🙂

        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          That's such an important point Andy. My kids discussing it with their friends/ classmates too. They are seeing all this positive vibe at such an early age. Can only mean good things in how they view the world/ and our country. Truly monumental weekend for little ol' Oireland!!

          1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            My 13-year-old boy is weirded out by homosexuality, but he considers it bizarre that gay marriage would not be allowed, or that there would be any differential treatment at all.

      6. Red Star Toro
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        That feel when your country decriminalized homosexuality roughly 60 years before Ireland and still has one of the strictest anti-LGBT law in EU.
        Well done Ireland, I am impressed how your society changed in recent years. Cheers from Poland.

        1. Licky
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Decriminalized in the 30s!? Virtually unheard of. There's a joke in there I'll not share either. :O

          1. Red Star Toro
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            1932 I believe

            1. Licky
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Wow! Exceptional stuff, despite what you've mentioned with regards to strictness.

        2. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Good man! I've a few good Polish friends and it's amazing how close we both are in lifestyle/ views etc. The Polish influx into Ireland has all been positive from what I've seen, and I welcome them.

          1. Red Star Toro
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Really glad to hear that. Hope one day church will lose it's influence in Poland as well 😀

            1. andy85wsm
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              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              That will be a great day when people stop being brainwashed.

            2. The Light Knight
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              If an Irish guy became Pope, we'd probably all jump back on the Church bandwagon 😉

              1. RoysCallerAnne
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                The white smoke appears....

                ...and it's Daniel O'Donnell everyone! 😉

                1. Licky
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  My Ma thinks he's gay, marriage of convenience she says, you know, to keep the grannies on side! Seriously wouldn't surprise me though. :O

                  1. Hibbo
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    You can't call Daniel O'Donnell gay.

                    1. RoysCallerAnne
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Licky is right though. Tis obvious. Same with Micael D...

                      1. Hibbo
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Higgins?? Hahaha

              2. djenzio
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I am very proud to be Irish.

                First big step forward for a while for us. And great to be the first ever country to allow same sex marriage by popular vote.

                The most important thing is people are now talking about it and not the old Irish brush it all under the carpet trick!

                1. RoysCallerAnne
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Yep

      7. Amateur Pundit Zan
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Massive well done to Ireland on this.

        Not only is it great for the Irish, it is also reopening the debate around the world and could trigger other countries to follow 🙂

        1. Dougal McGuire
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Well, whatever Ireland has done right, Bravo!

          Sad about the church thing though, all seems a bit hard to believe sometimes though......

    4. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Any decent trustworthy cash mini leagues that will be running next season?

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Demi runs one I think. Never been in one myself so will be keeping my eyes peeled over the summer.

        1. JAC THE CAT
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Played my work one with 54 teams in and finished top this season.

          Really want to be in a big league next season

      2. Chelsea Rangers Loyal
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I am interested in that too.

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Me too. I'm a fudging world-beater and want to win all your money.

          1. Amateur Pundit Zan
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Lol

            This is exactly what everyone is saying.

            I'm in 😉

      3. S.Kuqi
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Well I'm in as well if there is intrest for ffs money league.

      4. 50 Shades Oshea
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        ye very keen for this

      5. djenzio
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        count me in if there is one!

    5. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Pellegrini to continue as City manager being reported in several broadsheets and red tops tonight after talks with the chairman yesterday...http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manuel-pellegrini-stay-manchester-city-5762437?

      1. Licky
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Not surprising, they'll look to replace him next summer though, from what I hear.

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          He only has a year left on his contact, so yeah...

        2. Twelve years a slave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Pleased he is staying, hasnt done too much wrong. The mid season slump was a strange one, they suddenly went very cold for no apparent reason, then fired back up

        3. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Also...Yaya's agent is being quoted as saying he is to stay at City next year.

          1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Only if he gets to go to the zoo and get ice cream for his birthday though 🙂

            1. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Obviously.

            2. Licky
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Throw in a trip to Disneyland and a £500 Toys R Us gift voucher and he's all in. 😉

    6. djenzio
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      still can't believe Utd finished 4th after that season they had

      I know I sound bitter but they have been poor for the amount they spent.

      Really hope next season has more teams challenging for title and top 4

      1. Licky
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        The only glimmer of hope I have for us next year is LVG will still be in charge at United! 😀

        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Nah, I rate him. Wish we had him 🙁

          1. Licky
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            I don't, a bit anti football too, really just covering up the physicality and Fellaini's thugness with some good technical players.

      2. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Arsenal are looking very strong, and with United and City strengthening over the summer it should be interesting.

      3. Puyol Pants Up
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        To be honest Liverpool and Spurs were to poor throughout the season to grab 4th spot. They finished 4th by default.

      4. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        United had a terrible team when they won the title in SAF's final year. At the end of the day its the results that matter, not how they got them.

        1. andy85wsm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Where have you been?!

          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Lost interest in FPL in recent weeks. Had nothing to play for.

            1. andy85wsm
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              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Ah, fair enough! Always next year

              1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                #YNWA

        2. The Light Knight
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Any team with Scholes is, by definition, not terrible

          1000 lines, and go wash your mouth out with soapy water

          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 12 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            He was virtually retired, same with Giggs. They shouldn't have won the title with the squad they had but they still did. I'm a United fan and I'm going to be honest about it.

      5. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yep, it does sound bitter.

        Pool supporter? They spent £110 million or so this season. So really I wouldn't be focusing on United's poor finish because of their spending, Pool too brought in about 8/9 new players for nothing.

        1. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Pool supporter indeed but Man Utd's net spend far out weighed Liverpools. Plus look at the fees as well.

          Utd got 4th by default because no one else tried, along with freakish stats from DDG.

        2. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          we spent about 110 but we also made about 80/90 from sales. most of that money was from Suarez

          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            United can argue that they made massive profits via sponsorships so their net spend (if you define it on club earnings all over instead of just selling players) was low as well. I'll gladly accept that Suarez had to be replaced and that impacted the club but really, 8/9 players later and they still drop from 2nd to 6th?

            My point is really that all clubs weren't that impressive this season. United got 4th because they were 4th best imo, we can't say that had others been better that United would have stayed the same, added competition may have forced them to improve as well. Similar thing happened with Chelsea, they made a few slip ups along the way but it didn't matter because they didn't need to perform (as you say, by default).

            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Also, I didn't mean my bitter comment to sound nearly as blunt and knobbish as it did!

    7. jurgenizer | TRIPEIROS
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Aguero + Kane + Austin

      Simples

      (no Costa, I don't)

      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        This.

    8. 50 Shades Oshea
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      does anyone know when fantasy premier league new teams will come out? already ready for next season....

      1. Licky
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Probably mid-July maybe, I'm not sure but I think it starts a bit earlier this year. I'd recommend taking a short break from it, come back when the transfer window opens to take it all in. 😉

      2. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Fixtures usually released mid June. FPL usually reopens mid July with player prices etc.

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          At 4 a.m of course 😉

    9. You Must Be Jokin Ere
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What's the "42" about???

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Doosra, a long standing and respected poster was very ill during this season. He's getting better now. He always used +42 instead of +1 to agree with posts. It comes from the Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy. 42 was the answer to everything.

        1. You Must Be Jokin Ere
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers. +42

      2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy series of books identifies that as the answer to the question of life, the universe, and everything. Doos frequently uses +42 to indicate strong agreement.

        I used to work as a courier with some Pakistani guys in the US, and for them 42 was a radio code for s**t.

        1. The Light Knight
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I thought it was the Pakistani courier code reason too

    10. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Ran my team through the anewpla application looks like I took 52pts worth of hits.

      There was me thinking I played quite tight.

      Obviously not.

      How many did you all take?

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        44

      2. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        -40

      3. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        -44

      4. Jay_
          8 years, 11 months ago

          208

          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Wow you were 288OR early doors!!

            Why so heavy on the hits?

            1. Jay_
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Lost interest halfway through with the 32 hit after a family loss, then half have up on the season and played care free, had fun though and can't wait fur next season to try not to take silly hits

                1. Hibbo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Sorry to hear that and good luck next year.

                  Your top500 appearance shows you've something about you.

                  1. Jay_
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Thanks mate 🙂 good luck to you too

              • 10 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              52. I was going well then finished the season with -4,-24,0,0,-8

            2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              -60 😳

              1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                +113 immediate points from hits.

                1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  That's net of the hits.

                  1. Hibbo
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Wow. Nice.

                    1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Cheers. I think it just means I am bad a planning and good at panicking!

            3. Hibbo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Thanks for the replies trying to get a gauge a link between more frugal play and higher rank without individually checking through linked teams.

              1. In Like Flynn.
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                How do you factor in boredom TonyH?

                1. Hibbo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Good point, I have no idea.

                  Just thought mine was quite high but I suppose by nature I'm a bit of a gambler.

                  Read that Dufflinks didn't take a hit all season and thought its a mighty disciplined way to make a game weeks worth of points.

              2. RoysCallerAnne
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Ah come on now Tony. The night is young. Get clicking on all those teams and post a comprehensive analysis worthy of a sticky!

                1. Hibbo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I have no desired to be stickied old chum!

                  Or to attempt a comprehensive analysis!

                  I prefer to be a cynical smart ass. I think it suits me.

                  1. RoysCallerAnne
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    😀

            4. In Like Flynn.
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              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              56

            5. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              20pts, so 5 hits with a total of 40 transfers. Probably about right if not slightly conservative.

          2. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            In case it hasn't been mentioned, latest word is that Liverpool have no intention whatsoever of replacing Rodgers and Klopp may indeed go ahead and take a year out from managing.

            1. Hibbo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Liverpool need to sit and think is it going to be the case the Rodgers will turn us right round. Because surely they know he won't?

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                My concern there is that maybe the owners quite like having a manager who gives them an awful lot of control...

                Now obviously things change a lot, but apparently Pool haven't even made a single inquiry.

                I suppose Rodgers can claim losing Suarez and Studge's injury was always going to cause issues?

                1. Hibbo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  For new players you mean?

                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Inquiries? For a new manager. Apparently haven't contacted anybody.

                2. djenzio
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  no point finding a replacement for him until FSG make a decision. they will allow Rodgers to state his case and make an argument for him to stay. Can't see him staying myself, the 6-1 defeat (our worst ever in the league) is surely the nail in the coffin.

                  lots of rumours flying around that the team lost on purpose because they are fed up with him playing different formations and players out of position. It's a catch 22 really and its obvious something needs to change.

                  easier to change the manager than the squad so that has to happen. when a manager loosing the dressing room its time to go.

                  I was always pro BR and still think he has done a lot of good for us but I had a proper think about it recently and with the way we ended the season I really think he is bad for us. He bought the wrong type of players for his system and he plays players out of position for no reason.

                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Can't blame him entirely on transfers, they have a whole board involved there. Fact is that the Pool hierarchy won't allow big wage deals, and that is destroying their potential to bring in really big players, as well as inconsistent European places. So in some regards they've created a nightmare for themselves.

                    1. Licky
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      First two summers you can, but from what I heard he dilly dallied over a Bony deal which was done, and difficult to gauge, but apparently* vetoed the Remy deal too.He has the final say, the transfer committee are at fault too. Seriously though, the squad available should have at the very least achieved top four, you can't argue against A) The Defense B) The system used and lack of attacking intent for so much of the season, for me while losing Suarez and Sturridge was a blow it doesn't excuse not playing like they were still there, it wouldn't have impacted us all that much really...

                      1. djenzio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        if loosing 1 player effects a team this much then there is something wrong at the very core of the team.

                        we kind of lost 2 players with Sturridge injury but still....

                        defence is a major problem for us, we cannot defend and the problem goes all the way to our youth team and the type of transfers we make. A problem that a DOF would solve.

                        1. Camp No No
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          It really is a team defence problem at Liverpool like in most cases of big teams in particular. It will turn better if Can eventually nails that DM position (and not the RCB position), and maybe Skrtel is replaced with someone who can defend. Sakho-Lovren could turn out to be a very strong defensive pair, if they can get Lovren to a better confidence and commitment after the early season errors. It is a great mistake to evaluate defenders simply by their errors.

                    2. djenzio
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      we need a DoF

                      Rodgers has such little experience, as do FSG with PL football. We need experience in there to help make better decisions.

                      There were only a few players BR was 'forced' into buying. Balo and Rickie off the top of my head, the rest were clearly his priorities.

                      The fact he started Can at right back against Stoke just says it all.

                3. Licky
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I don't think the owners want so much control, true they want a DoF, but Rodgers is bull headed, he wanted control of everything and made it clear when he joined, I think just from what he has done (or rather hasn't) with the squad available to him he'll be gone, he's lost the dressing room, the fans and has made no signs of acknowledging his own failings or learning from them.

                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I agree with most of what you say of course, however if he was that hell bent on control he'd have never agreed to a transfer board imo.

                    And really, I'm not convinced about the current ownership at all tbh. They'll happily spend money that the club earns from player sales, no doubt, but they could easily stump up more money to really set the club up or change the wage structure, but the impression I get is they're not that arsed. That's just my observation though, could be well off.

                    1. djenzio
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      that's just not true that they are not arsed.

                      we are not Utd, we don't have those resources, it's an issue but a tough one to solve. having no champo league will really effect us financially but it didn't put a dint in Utd.

                      1. Somalion
                        • 14 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        See the reply to Licky below.

                        I'm not saying Liverpool are a financial juggernaut, though some of the finances are better than people realise, however the entire club's structure is not conducive to being a consistent league challenging team.

                        The wages are going to repeatedly cause massive issues, they could change it btw, last Summer was the prime time. They had CL, a lot of money available and instead of targeting a couple properly big players they spend medium amounts on a bunch of players, all drawing medium wages.

                        That makes no sense at all to me, tbh.

                    2. Licky
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I'd imagine he agreed to it because he knew himself he couldn't target signings properly (though he wouldn't admit it). The owners get a lot of stick but not rightfully so. I'll post about it on the next page if you want.

                      1. Somalion
                        • 14 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Probably won't be on much longer I'm afraid. I think the owners are fine, but you have to question a few decisions. Liverpool will not attract the really big ones without changing that wage system, and this season they could have reduced the number of signings in order to offer a couple of big wage packets. To me, something stinks there. Liverpool's situation is amenable to improvement if they changed the structure. But it stays the same...

                        1. Licky
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          They need to drastically cut the wage bill, dead wood like Johnson and Stevie (on the field at this stage it must be said, brutal but sentiment will get us nowhere) is a start, I agree, I think the wage structure should easily be quality over quantity with the youth as cover, and lets be honest we have a great academy with some cracking youth players. Unfortunately with the debt accumulated over Rodgers tenure (despite great commercial success off the field) it won't be feasible in my opinion to attract top players, not now without CL. However putting Billy Hogan and Michael Gordon into the fold is a start for the owners.

                          1. Somalion
                            • 14 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            I'm entirely agreed, I think it was last Summer that really had me start to notice some of the odd decisions at the club. All that money in wages and fees on players who would play a bit part at best.. It just really surprised me I guess, was sure they'd land a couple really big ones.

                            1. Licky
                              • 11 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              Perhaps, we just couldn't attract any? That's also crossed my mind... :/ It wasn't a good market for striker, but GK, DM, and a top class striker is what we badly need now. I don't think we'll get what we want or need. 🙁

                              1. Somalion
                                • 14 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                Maybe you're right, certainly it's hard to compete. But they seemed to nearly entirely rule themselves out very quickly (as soon as Sanchez was going to Arsenal).

                                Naturally it depends on the type of fan, but I know the likes of yourself and the other lads posting on this discussion really deserve better from the club at the moment.

              2. Ryan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 12 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I would argue that Rodgers needs more control at Liverpool in order to be successful. That way there won't be silly transfers such as Belotelli and Lambert coming to the club.

                1. Hibbo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Maybe. Modern football tends to work the way of transfer committees and director of football.

                  I'm no expert but I'd imagine he must have some sway and I suppose if he doesn't then he's guilty by compliance.

                  Its not really an excuse for him to come out after the fact and say he didn't want these players because ultimately the buck stops with him and those were conditions he was agreeing to work under.

                  1. djenzio
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    the DOF is key to Liverpool and is a massive issue we have.

                    1. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      The DOF is the one who should be sacked imo

                      1. djenzio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        we don't have a DOF.....

                        1. Ryan
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Well I do know that Rodgers hasn't had total control over the transfers in. Whoever is responsible there needs to have their position reviewed.

                          1. djenzio
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            He has had 90% of control. he has the final say. sure some people were 'forced' on him but it is him to blame.

                            he refused a DOF and that's a serious problem.

                            no DOF coupled with a lack of experience in all departments is what is crippling us.

                            a good DOF would help get in more suitable transfers/

                            BR stated last season he was not making a marquee signing but wanted to a squad of players to replace one player to add strength and depth. our squad is not that bad, we should have challenged better for top four and we have the ability to play well. there is something missing at our core, and imo it's experience.

                          2. Ryan
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/10004873/Liverpool-transfers-to-be-decided-by-committee-not-Brendan-Rodgers-claims-Ian-Ayre.html

                            Its being run by a committee, its the governing structure of Liverpool that is to blame, not Rodgers.

                            1. Hibbo
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 11 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              Rodgers is part of the committee though.

                              As is the chief scout and chief executive.

                              I'd imagine that isn't actually that much of a rareity.

                              Not many managers signing players without consulting their chief scout or chief executive.

                            2. djenzio
                              • 9 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              BR still pretty much has the final say.

                              doesn't really matter. apart from the transfers he has made a lot of mistakes and has lost the fans and the dressing room so he still needs to go.

                              Whether he is responsible for transfers or not makes no odds to me, he has still done enough to be fired.

                              1. Ryan
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • Has Moderation Rights
                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                Its funny how easy it is to have a scapegoat. At the end of the day Rodgers can't work under this structure so probably shouldn't be manager of Liverpool but he shouldn't be the only one blamed.

                            3. Licky
                              • 11 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              I'm sorry, but regardless of the structure being poor too, it doesn't excuse Rodgers abysmal mismanagement of the players on the pitch this season.

                              1. Somalion
                                • 14 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                I'm agreed there, but blame for transfers must be spread around.

                              2. Ryan
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • Has Moderation Rights
                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                He didn't have the right players to properly go about his business. His style of management requires total control of transfers, not punts on the likes of Belotelli and emotional transfers for the likes of Lambert, neither of which suited Rodgers style.

                              3. Licky
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                So he should have been allowed to sign more Allens, Borinis, Aspas', Albertos and Assaidis???

                              4. Hibbo
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                To be honest Ryan you don't seem to know anything about it bar posting that link.

                                You were claiming they should sack a director of football which they don't even have and haven't stopped digging ever since.

                              5. Ryan
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                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                You can't assume all the players he would bring in would be bad. At least he'd have the players he wants which will help with his general management.

                              6. Ryan
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                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                I was only sure that he didn't have full control of transfers and nothing else. Thats all I've claimed to know, I wasn't aware that that was a committee instead of a DOF but hey, same thing really. He doesn't have full control of the transfers and shouldn't be fully to blame for having the likes of Belotelli and Lambert.

                              7. Hibbo
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                Who has full control?

                                You work with the remits of a budget and signing players who want to play for the club. For all you know he could've had the final say on all transfers but your just running with the he doesn't have full control line which I think is flawed. For all you know he could've given final ultimate decision for those deals.

                                He probably can say he didn't want to sell Suarez but its irrelevant its outside of his control. Either the money is too much or the player wants to go and the board step in a saying look were selling that's happens all the time in football so who really has this total control?

                              8. Ryan
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                No one has full control, thats why I think for Rodgers to be successful he should have full control over his team.

                              9. Hibbo
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                OK I'll agree to disagree.

                                Personally I think he will eventually get the sack as he's out of his depth.

                                He talks a good game but he's not a good enough manager for Liverpool Football Club.

                              10. Licky
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                Indeed, its within most managers remits to use what they've got, Rodgers failed miserably to best utilise the players available, I can't remember any matches where he played Lambo or Ballo in a system that suited them, he player Markovic at RWB, Can at RCB/RB, he plays Gerrard in DM (where he's useless) all while Lucas sits on the bench!! (seriously he was like our best player most games, results improved with him in the side! WTF) he then just decided to lump Sterling up front, isolated with no support, and have the midfield flap about doing sweet F**k all to show attacking intent. Utter disgrace of a manager, and that's not even mentioning how he was tactically outdone by teams below us, teams like Basel and Ludogorets, and then throwing in the towel at the Bernebeu (remember that?).

                              11. Ryan
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                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                I also agree that he will eventually get the sack but possibly not straight away. I think that we can conclude that its not working particularly well at the moment and that that is a problem.

                              12. Hibbo
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                The whole back 3 thing was a nonsense.

                                I'm not a Liverpool fan but when I saw Sterling in the right wing back position I thought this is bloody ridiculous.

                                Back 3s don't work. I know people want to reinvent the wheel but football aint rocket science and defenders just want to play in a back 4, trust me.

                              13. Licky
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                Indeed, in his 3 years he hasn't done anything to sort the defense out, the major problem is Skrtel, no communication, drops too deep, rash and terrible aerially, the back four was always better and as you say players prefer it. My greatest fear isn't the general quality of the squad right now, its their confidence after this season.

                              14. Hibbo
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                My thing with a back 3 is it gives the false impression that it'll give you width.

                                But it doesn't.

                                You'd need a lwb and rwb like two road runners great attacking and defending and if you have a player that good he will be playing for Real Madrid or something.

                                Really you always end up dropping back to right or left back to defend and don't get out the way you'd want. And the width is then non existent.

                                As for cbs I liked Agger.

                              15. Pepereina Pizza
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                For every Allen and Borini, there is a Markovic, a Lallana, a Can, a Sturridge.

                                You're still frothing at the mouth 2 days later. Think critically about your position. Go back over the past season, how it started a mess, and then LFC were the form team from Christmas through March... things were clicking, so something is going RIGHT with the team, in spite of having absolutely no strikers to play.

                                Suarez + Sturridge scored the same number of goals last season as the ENTIRE TEAM this season.
                                Doubt you'd be calling for BR's head if Remy/Bony had gone differently.

                      2. Hibbo
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Hahaha

                      3. Licky
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        We don't have one though, all that has been up to Rodgers largely. He down right refused to work under one when he first arrived, despite FSG (rightly so) wanting to adopt the continental system and hire a DoF, hell, Cruyff was inquired about but he decided he didn't want to take on another job of building up a club infrastructure.

                2. djenzio
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  a lot of his transfers were silly too. and not that he signed bad players, but he signed the wrong players for his own system. it makes no sense.

                  he has a lot to learn and he is young, he lacks experience in the top tier and that has been proven the way he has been found out so often.

                  he just seemed lost this season the way he flip flopped formations and player positions. we had a great spell from one system, but when it came to the crunch and the system was worked out he crumbled.

                  1. Ryan
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Rodgers doesn't have total control of transfers. The club itself have been bringing in all sorts of players such as Belotelli and Lambert which Rodgers had no interest in.

            2. djenzio
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              source?

              last I heard is he will leave if they want him to and he is going to Boston to meet with FSG for a review, which will clearly be them deciding if he stays or goes.

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                "It is our understanding that the Liverpool owners have no intention of sacking manager Brendan Rodgers.

                Club sources have told us that while there will be a robust and thorough review, but changing manager is not on the agenda. This review is expected to be in June.

                We understand Liverpool have not spoken to, sounded out, or considered any replacement manager."

                Straight from Sky, but as I say things can change very quickly and there's always more going on behind the scenes.

                1. djenzio
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  unless that quote is from FSG it means nothing, they decide if he stays or not.

                2. Licky
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Realistically we won't know because the owners won't leak info, so what is leaked is coming from somewhere else or is a presumption the owners won't act because they haven't knee jerked. FSG may not look to Klopp at all anyway, but considering they haven't sorted it out yet it isn't all that surprising an inquiry hasn't been made on account of the technicality of no vacant position.

                  1. djenzio
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    exactly.

                    The Club source and Sky can say all they want but it's meaningless.

                    FSG will review BR in person this week in Boston. No one knows what they will say, if they will give him a chance to beg for his job or if he will simply be fired no matter what.

                    And as Licky said why would we inquire for a job that is not vacant. Makes no sense.

                    1. Somalion
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I have to disagree, as clubs frequently sound out agents of managers before sacking their current manager. They do it very often to prevent, for example, sacking Rodgers and not having someone lined up to replace him. Clubs are businesses, sacking a manager without a clear indication and tentative contact as to possible replacements is utterly reckless.

                      I agree with the rest of what you said btw.

                      1. djenzio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        for all we know they are talking to agents but that information has not leaked.

                        so many unreliable sources these days so hard to know what to trust and what not to trust but I do see your point.

                        1. Somalion
                          • 14 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          See below again. 🙂

                          I agree, everything with a pinch of salt at the very least! But just useful to have the most up to date information, even if it's only a fraction!

                      2. Licky
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Fair enough, but again just refer back to nothing being leaked from FSGs perspective, even if they were sounding it out then we may not have heard about it, or maybe they just won't look to Klopp which is feasible also.

                        1. Somalion
                          • 14 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Genuinely didn't mean the Klopp part to be a part of the Liverpool bit, it was just a separate thing I came across 🙂

                          I agree, but agents that have been sounded out tend to like giving little bits to the press, increase wages in contracts etc. Unless FSG have demanded complete silence, on the matter, which is absolutely possible.

                          Also, just to make it clear, I think Rodgers must go. I'm only relaying what I've got 🙂

                          1. Licky
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            Absolutely. 😉

                  2. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    The inquiry part is secondary, though interesting when a couple of weeks ago they had been in talks with Klopp for "months".

                    I'm not saying info is entirely reliable, as I say we only really get a fraction but I've had a terrible uneasy feeling about the situation for a while. I have no idea why tbh, but there's something strange I can't quite come to terms with.

            3. RoysCallerAnne
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              From where? From what I'm gathering, de Brodge is a dead man walking.

              *source, my own head 🙂

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Posted just above you 🙂

                That's all I have! Make of it what you will, I certainly no nothing about it!

                1. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  *know

            4. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Brendan Rodgers has a meeting with the owners next month which will in effect be a post mortem of the season past and a discussion on the clubs future plans..but you are right...at this moment he remains manager and with no indication that he is going to be replaced.

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Aye, I'm just not convinced he's definitely going. I think he should go, but there's something that makes me uneasy...

                1. Dr Dream
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I think it's time for him to go. He's lost the fans and it'll turn messy and worse. Maybe the owners don't realise how unforgiving this game is once you lose the fans.

                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I agree entirely, but that disconnect can be a real problem indeed!

                2. djenzio
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  if we get a DoF I wouldn't be so upset about BR staying. But something needs to change.

                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I agree, something must be done. Funny enough, I think they had wanted LVG as DOF at one point. Think there are a few power struggles going on at the moment.

          3. bennyp
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            What has everyone learnt this season?

            1. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              That FPL is great fun...and this site is stuffed full of good folk.

              1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                +42 (and I don't mean this in the Pakistani courier sense)

            2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              That I type too slow and everyone beats me to the good jokes.

            3. RoysCallerAnne
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Log off when Daniel is logged on during match days.

              Nah. I've been telling myself that for 6 years now and still haven't learnt 🙂

            4. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 12 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I can honestly say I have learned nothing. I don't believe I did anything wrong on a consistent basis and we can never get it perfect all the time.

              1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I think you're right, but the season before this I made some identifiable mistakes which I think I benefited from this season. This season my mistakes were pretty much chance-related.

                1. Ryan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I think we all learnt to be less stubborn this season and to jump on players much earlier. Ramsey and Yaya burned many in the previous season. Overall I think the regulars on here all had very strong seasons.

                  1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Exactly this. I also learned from 2013-14 to start the season with a balanced team. That's rookie stuff, I know, but in my first FFS season (2012-13) I did that by accident and had a great year, so didn't absorb the lesson. In 2013-14 I killed my season by (in addition to stubbornness about Ramsey and Toure) being trapped by lack of balance early on, and I won't do that again.

              2. Dr Dream
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Jeez Ryan, you picked a hell of a week to have your worst week of the season...that'd drive me nuts all summer.

                1. Ryan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Yeah 🙁 it is what it is

                  1. Dr Dream
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Good team as well. It could easily bash out an 80pt GW on another day.

            5. Hibbo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Keep the wildcard.

              1. bennyp
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Yeh this..

              2. Ryan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                GW34 WC didn't work out that well in the end.

                1. Hibbo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  From what I seen it did for quite a few.

                  I wasted both of mine is more the lesson I learnt.

                  1. Ryan
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    It did in GW34 but since then not so good.

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Jinswick disagrees.

                      1. Ryan
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        He was a maverick and needed to be, that probably helped.

                        1. TorresMagic™
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                          • 14 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          You also played your WC in GW34 badly in hindsight which makes you more negative towards it. The last 4 GWs after GW34 needed good tweaking rather than saving transfers to pay off.

                          1. Ryan
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            I never had a WC as I used it in GW5. I did my best with FT's but Liverpool never came to the party and Arsenal weren't all that either.

                            1. TorresMagic™
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                              • 14 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              Leicester destroyed your end of season. You decided they weren't worth the effort.

                              1. Ryan
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • Has Moderation Rights
                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                Yes and that was a mistake, perhaps I learned not to underestimate desperate clubs in the relegation battle. Although such a stance wouldn't hold water for Hull assets. I guess good old form and fixtures still hold sway here.

                2. RoysCallerAnne
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Early WC FTW. Set up the team. Correct early mistakes. Increase TV ( less so this year )

            6. RoysCallerAnne
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Oh. Here's another one ; must rig the FPL cup draw to face teams with more exciting team names.

              GW18 I faced "1"

              GW19 I faced "ABC"

              Next year I'm hoping to draw MY 11 in the first round 🙂

              1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Nah, I'm getting used to being bounced by some variation of "Leave my Arse-a-lona"

            7. bennyp
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              1: Always captain a Crystal Palace striker when they play Liverpool.
              2. Always captain a Stoke Midfielder when they play Liverpool.

            8. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              OK, I did actually learn some FPL things:

              1. Hits are fine. Don't take more than a -4 unless it's a DGW, but otherwise it's silly to avoid hits on principle, because that just stops you taking opportunities.

              2. Punt on your transfers, not on your (c)

              3. TV IS important, even with Kanes and Austins around, so think about TV but don't take early transfers to get it.

              1. bennyp
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Yeh I need to really focus on stacking TV next season!

                1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Up until Christmas at least.

            9. Jay_
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Lots and lots, don't take over a 12 point hit, you need a back up goalie, right backs are the best defenders to jump on, goal scoring mids are gold dust, take note of what players get good bps, get rid of dead wood quickly, look at fixtures up to 10 games ahead on the fixture ticker rather than the immediate 3 on fpl site, captain the big guns and high percentage raters on the captain poll don't try to be clever * I know these seem obvious but this was my first season as a ffs member and these might be helpful to other noobs that will play seriously next year for the first time 🙂

                1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Most of these are really good. Not sure about right backs, but the rest is dead on.

              • Bubz
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                That sometimes less is more.

                1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Ooo, that sounds really deep, please elaborate.

              • Amateur Pundit Zan
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Don't panic if you get off to a bad start.

                Don't waste the WC unless your team really can't be fixed in a couple of hits.

                Usually the obvious option is all the best option. Differentiate with care and dont try to be too clever.

                And most important lesson for me is to make sure you have flexibility in your squad to react to bandwagons at different price points without major team surgery

                1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Your last point is gospel brother.

            10. Long Juan Silva
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Anyone else think Man City should just sell Touré and be done with it?

              All the constant transfer speculation can't be good for the club. Only a couple of weeks ago his agent said he was "90% likely to leave the club", now he's gonna stay.

              Giving him a ridiculous contract worth 200k+ a week until he's 34 was stupid in the first place. Now it's come back to bite them again because they're stuck with him. No way Inter or any other club is going to match those wages for a player his age.

              Yes he can steam-roll Premier League clubs, but his awful performances in Europe are a massive part of why Man City have failed to make any in-roads in the Champions League.
              If I were a City fan I'd love to see the back of him.

              1. Dr Dream
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                He's a very good reason why a club should consider just giving one year contracts to players over 30...The slippery slope can be quite steep sometimes.

                1. Long Juan Silva
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Indeed. Man City seem to be particularly bad for that. Might be wrong but I think they have David Silva's contact running until he's 33. Not that he isn't a great player, but there's no guarantee a player won't go into decline at any point past 30.

              2. Ryan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                The can't sell him without replacing him. Pogba would be the idea replacement but that saga will go on all summer.

                1. Long Juan Silva
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  But I don't think he is irreplaceable. He's shown that he is uncapable of playing in the double pivot in the CL because he won't track back. So then, he can only be played in the hole vs top opposition ➡ an attacking midfielder, not box-to-box as he is vs regular PL opposition. Therefore I don't think they need a like-for-like replacement in Pogba because he's only an attacking mid in the games that matter.

                  1. Long Juan Silva
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Not sure I explained that very well but hopefully you get what I'm trying to say.

                    1. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Any transfer out would need to be compensated with a transfer in. Who would start in his place?

                      1. Long Juan Silva
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Fernando & Fernandinho in the pivot, and a new attacking mid would be the same IMO. Pogba is a great player, but I don't think a like-for-like replacement is needed.

                        1. Ryan
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          That would throw out the balance imo. Both of those two are too defensive.

                        2. Hibbo
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Fernandinho is absolute garbage.

                          Like a Brazilian Hayden Mullins.

                          1. Hibbo
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            Sorry I mean Fernando.

                          2. Long Juan Silva
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            I agree. The point I'm just trying to get across is that a box-to-box mid (Pogba) is not essential. A good midfielder of any sort would be fine.

                  2. Dr Dream
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    One of the hardest things to judge in football is when your team needs a freshen up, when it's time for some impetus..a boost...

                    Frank Lampard was in a similar position to Yaya at the end of last season, he could have done another year, no problem at all (as he proved at City), but the other side of the coin is that Mourinho freshened up and Cesc gave the club a boost. Mourinho called it right...How do you measure that worth ?

                    Gerrard like wise had a great season last year..one of his best...but Liverpool failed to call time when they needed to and he limped along for another year. a year too long.

                    Yaya is in exactly that situation now, or rather City are...The squad/team needs a boost, even if that means Yaya does quite well somewhere else for a year or two...

                    1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      This is a really good point. And Yaya does look like he might be on that cusp. Be interesting to poll who else is.

                      1. Dr Dream
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        You can't measure it EJ...It's all to do with the excitement and anticipation that a new (marquee) signing can bring. They don't even need to be much better than the outgoing ageing player..it's all to do with mind set for the whole club.

                        1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          When do you reckon that will be Rooney?

                          1. Dr Dream
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            Not for a while yet. He has been really good this season. He's matured as captain and is saying, and doing, all the right things...RVP on the other hand...

                            1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                              • 11 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              See, I didn't mention him because I thought it was obvious. 😉

                    2. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I agree and that is why City are trying everything to bring Pogba to the club.

                      1. Ryan
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        He needs to arrive first though before City can sell Yaya

                        1. Dr Dream
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Of course. Having said what I said above a manager still has to find he right player that gives the fresh impetus....easier said than done.

              3. Licky
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                A difficult one for sure, the problem often can be sentimentality or the club just not knowing when to move a player on, there's a point where they begin to go down hill and value depreciates. Personally I would sell him and possibly a few others to fun a top class midfield, both defensively and more general CM, B2B.

                1. Licky
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I'm also sick of Nasri, too streaky for me, sell him and bring in another top class winger/attacking mid.

                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    A few of them need ditching!

                  2. Dr Dream
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Nasri strikes me as a pain in the arse in terms of managing a team.

                    1. Licky
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I wanted to say that! 😀 Yeah I think a lot should be moved on, and some real quality brought in, for certain areas of the pitch. That backbone they had seems to have disintegrated bar Hart and Aguero.

            11. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Just been looking at my stats and I got 188 immediate points from transfers this season. I have no idea whether that's good or bad. I feel pretty good about my 113 points (net) from hits, but how does that 188 points from transfers stack up?

              1. Amateur Pundit Zan
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                225 for me but based on some postings last week I think that's quite high

                1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Nice. Shows some good spotting. I think my stats suggest that I do better when I'm sure enough to spend points on it. I wonder if that's true of most: that they get more points out of hits than ordinary transfers?

            12. Get up ya bum
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I've cracked the case, Somalion is in fact a self loathing closet liverpool fan. Its ok brother you can come out.

              1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Glad you popped in Champ. I want to thank you for holding FCKP to a draw--that basically won me LAWR 5! If you got one point less . . .

                1. Get up ya bum
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  My pleasure 😀

              2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Oh, and, yeah, totally on the Somalion thing.

              3. The Light Knight
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Self loathing? Everyone loathes Pool fans

                1. Licky
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Even I loathe 'Pool fans!! 😀

                2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Yeah, I'm a 'Pool fan, and I hate my self, so who needs to get hung up on causation?

            13. Get up ya bum
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              And Ireland I love you! Its even got the journos asking the question of our elected douche bags again. Been voted against in parliament twice in the last decade though despite over two thirds of citizens in favour.
              Oh and that fella upstairs sure does have the right to express his views and I have the right to say he's a sad bigoted loser.
              Sidenote if their god is so anti gay love why are their priests all for it?

              1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Priesthood has always been about holding a tight rein on the secrets to happiness. 😉

                1. Get up ya bum
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Ha! 🙂

            14. Licky
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I don't want to reignite debate, I think this Liverpool 'situation' will drag on all summer, we'll have to see what happens now regardless of what is past. It'll no doubt still be argued over on here, as things develop and the FPL interest in players, prices, are they worth it? questions grow. I think though, rather more of a warning, that when you look at the many facets to the debate and Liverpool's current woes you get an idea of how bad it all is. For the neutrals in it I'd avoid us if you can, I can't see it working out well.

              1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Oh come on. You want to reignite debate. 🙂

                1. Licky
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Haha. 😉 I've said all I can say really, but I'll be back when developments come through. 😛

            15. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I love posting after the season because people take time to have discussions. But it also means things get real slow, especially this time of night as people retire (read: pass out). I'm going to pass out now, so good night and thanks for the craic (and the conversation has been nice too 😉 ).

              1. Licky
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Night Eunuch. 😉 /

            16. Chelsea Reviewed
              Ruth_NZ
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              The Janus Appraisal: 1. Chelsea

              Janus was the Roman God of transitions and is often pictured as having 2 heads, one looking back and one forwards.

              Personally I find that putting things in writing helps me organise my thoughts so I am going to make a series of posts about next season's PL teams from a FPL perspective, including a review of the season just gone and a look forward to 2015-16. Maybe they will be of some interest to others in a quiet time on the site and maybe they will spark some informative discussion. I'd be especially interested to hear comments from supporters of the various teams, particularly any who go to games.

              Some will say that it is far too early - we don't know FPL prices yet and we don't know about players coming in or leaving. For me that doesn't matter, indeed it's part of the point. If I can make an appraisal now I will have a platform from which to assess value and to view any subsequent changes. So I will start with the Champions. This will be my longest 'essay' because I know Chelsea better than other teams.

              CHELSEA REVIEW

              Chelsea ended the PL season as the 2nd highest scorers with 73 goals and the meanest defence with 32 conceded. Interestingly the goals scored matches the tallies of Mourinho's 2004-05 and 2005-06 PL winning teams almost exactly, both scored 72 goals. However the defense this season has not been as good as in those seasons (15 and 22 goals conceded).

              Many casual observers would draw the inference that Jose is building a typical Mourinho team - defensive, pragmatic, tough, tactical. Partly that is true: Mourinho values the mental qualities that enable a team to win extremely highly. But the idea that he can't build teams to attack is misplaced I think. His RM 2011-12 team holds the goals scored record in the major European leagues (121 goals) and his brief from Abramovich is to build a team with attacking flair - that's what Fabregas was brought in for.

              In many ways it has been a season of two halves for Chelsea and the Costa ban (stamping) against Liverpool on 27th January was probably the turning point. After that, Chelsea were without Costa for substantial periods through suspension and injury, Remy was also unavailable for much of the time through injury and Chelsea had to rely on a 36 year-old Drogba who has lost some of his pace and power and was never 100% fit either. It is not surprising that Mourinho turned to defensive pragmatism under those circumstances.

              Chelsea scored 51 PL goals in the first 22 games (up to 17th January), an average of 2.32 goals per game. Had they kept that rate going for the whole season they'd have ended up with 88 goals. However after Costa was banned they only scored 22 goals in the last 16 games, average 1.37 goals per game. At the same time the defense tightened, only 8 goals were conceded in the 13 games until the title was clinched, a miserly average of 0.62 goals against per game.

              CHELSEA PLAYERS - DEFENCE

              The good news for FPL managers is that the Chelsea defense will probably be even more predictable next season. Cech will almost certainly leave and Chelsea will probably sign someone like Rob Green as cover for Courtois. But there will be less risk of Courtois missing PL games.

              Filipe Luis may well leave as well, he's a top class LB and hasn't enjoyed spending so much time on the bench. Jose might go with Ake as LB cover, alternatively there is talk of him signing someone like Cresswell. Zouma has done very well and will cover for Cahill and JT.

              The only uncertainties apart from that are Ivanovic (who only has 1 year left on his contract and wants 3 years rather than the 1-year extension which is Chelsea's policy for players over 30) and JT who is now 34. That is not old for a CB, however, and there is no reason to think Terry is anywhere near being phased out as long as he avoids any serious injury. I think both will start as reliable options in a back-4 that is unlikely to change: Ivan - Cahill - JT - Azpi. I believe all the talk about Varane will prove to be hot air and I can't imagine the new RM manager wanting to let him go anyway.

              For attacking points, Ivan and JT are the obvious picks though Cahill is also capable from set plays. Ivan plays very far forward when Chelsea are not in defensive mode, and they won't be at the start of next season. JT is the best CB at attacking set pieces that I have ever seen and is the highest scoring defender in PL history.

              CHELSEA PLAYERS - MIDFIELD

              This is where there may be most change in the summer. Chelsea's financial position is very strong after profits in 3 of the last 4 seasons and they are well inside FFP regulations (which are going to be eased anyway). A Pogba or a Bale is affordable, in fact both are affordable. Chelsea's top earner is Hazard on around 210k per week so the wages are there too.

              Many Chelsea fans would identify those 2 positions as the ones where improvement is most needed. Fabregas is somewhat weak positionally/defensively when playing alongside Matic. It doesn't matter against most opponents but in really tough games Jose has had to turn to Mikel or Ramires with Fabregas at #10 and neither Ramires nor Mikel are really of high enough quality for a team that wants to win the CL.

              In addition, Matic played 47 of 54 games and was clearly feeling it towards the end. Next season, Chelsea could easily be playing 60+ games again and there will be more need to find rests for key players. Someone like Pogba would obviously be a great addition but there is also the possibility that Chelsea will bring Van Ginkel into the 1st team squad after his loan at Milan. Mourinho: “He covers a fantastic area of the field defensively and after that he has this instinct where he wants to go into finishing areas, he wants to score goals. He’s very good in the air.” If Van Ginkel stays, and if he begins to start regularly, he could be a surprise value option next season.

              The Bale position is open because there is an element of "stop Hazard, stop Chelsea", although Hazard moves around so much that he's very difficult to negate. But the other flank is a problem position at Chelsea which no-one has been able to nail. Willian offers fantastic work rate and technicality but tends to lack end product; Salah has been brilliant at Fiorentina but may be one of those players that needs to be a big fish in a smaller bowl; Cuadrado has the international pedigree and performance history but has yet to show it at Chelsea. That's what has Chelsea fans thinking about Bale.

              As it stands, I think that Cuadrado could actually do very well next season if the squad stays more or less the same. His recent performances show he's beginning to settle in and he has more of a goal threat than Willian, he is always trying to get into the box. Oscar is very variable, he has a lot of ability and works hard but the feeling is he has yet to give Chelsea a 100% season. It could even be that he leaves to join David Luiz at PSG.

              That brings me to the big two - Fabregas and Hazard.

              As Fabregas showed in the first half of the season, he can be deadly as an assist machine from CM. Not explosive but steady and productive. However it should be noted that he is very capable of scoring lots of goals too if played further forward. For Arsenal he scored 13, 3, 19, 9 in his last 4 seasons there; for Barcelona he scored 15, 14, 13 in 3 seasons. This season he has scored 5 goals. I think he's a good pick if he comes in around 9.0 next season. But if it became apparent that Fabregas would more often play #10 then he'd be near to being a must.

              Hazard is special, obviously. His dribbling makes him a BP magnet, he is crucial to Chelsea's attacking style and he gets a lot of goals and assists. He'll probably be priced at 11.0+ though and the fact that he didn't take the last penalty of the season raises a question mark. He missed 2 penalties during the season; Costa was the regular penalty taker at AM; Fabregas is also a good penalty taker. I don't know for sure but when the penalty was given against Sunderland, Costa immediately took the ball and Hazard went nowhere near it. It looked to me as if the decision had been made in advance and in that case Hazard may not be on penalties next season. I don't know if I'd want him in my FPL team at 11.0+ in that case.

              CHELSEA PLAYERS - STRIKER

              I am a big fan of Costa. Considering he has had an injury-ravaged season where he has missed 12 of 38 games completely and has only played the full 90 minutes 9 times, 20 PL goals is quite an achievement. The Chelsea medical staff are excellent and will be working with him all summer to manage and remedy the hamstring problems he has had. There is every reason to hope for a less disrupted 2015-16 season.

              Remy has shown himself to be an excellent squad member and has managed 7 PL goals with very little gametime. I'd have no question about having him in my FPL team if Costa was injured for a time - the managers that did that this season got very unlucky in my view (though I wasn't one of them). There will also be space for a 3rd striker, quite possibly Bamford now that Boro have missed promotion. But Costa will undoubtedly be the main man.

              SUMMARY

              I have thoughts of setting my FPL team up for 4-4-2 next season and had a double Chelsea defence very much in mind. Last time a Mourinho Chelsea was defending a PL title (2005-06) they began the season with 6 consecutive clean sheets and only conceded 9 goals in 20 games before the New Year.

              But writing this has persuaded me away from that, I think this Chelsea era is different and that they will be quite attacking at the start of next season (as they were at the start of the 2014-15 season). In that case 1 Chelsea defender will be enough to start with. I don't mind whether Ivan or JT, it will depend on prices and how my budget is working out.

              Costa is an absolute must for me if he is fit in pre-season. He will be in my GW1 team and quite likely as captain.

              That leaves room for one midfielder and that's where I am less certain. I have a feeling I will go without Hazard and if it becomes apparent that he's no longer on penalties I certainly will. Fabregas is quite a likely option for me though I would also seriously consider Cuadrado if he looked like nailing a regular starting spot. This position is probably the one that most depends on what happens in the summer.

              1. The Light Knight
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                tl; dr

                1. The Light Knight
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  In a more measured response, Fabregas' dip in form after Xmas was almost solely put down to him being tired yet the lack of a forward was barely mentioned.
                  He's top class and will certainly be in my team again next season

                  Good work as always Ruth 😉

                2. Ruth_NZ
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Just tell me: what is the point of posting that?

                  Are you saying that this site is not for long posts, only for chatter? If that's the case then I won't bother to post stuff like this. I really don't mind.

                  To me tl;dr is just rude and dismissive. But maybe we have different ideas about what this site is for.

                  1. The Light Knight
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Banter, I suppose

                    1. Ruth_NZ
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Ah. OK then. Try an emoticon with it next time and I will know. 😕

                      1. The Light Knight
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        But where's the fun in that?
                        I'm pretty sure the "ant" in banter is from "ANTagonise" 😉

                    2. Carlos Kickaball
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I thought banter was meant to be witty.

                  2. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    OK, embarrassing, because I just signed off, but I have to comment on this.

                    I've had "tl; dr" more than once and I don't like it. When it happens I think it's just philistinism, and a refusal to take on board something more complex than a snarky remark. But it's also right in this sense: you're asking a lot of everyone, and maybe there's a better place or time to do it. It's kind of like the tragedy of the commons: you generally shouldn't occupy more than the normal share, unless it has clear community value, and only the community can decide if it does. So you have to be tentative about doing it, or choose a forum (eg, community article) that is set aside for the purpose.

                    I like your analysis, and I think it's worthwhile, but when I saw it plopped down in the middle of a bunch of late night posts I thought, "tl; dr".

                    1. Ruth_NZ
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Yeah, I get that point.

                      Never mind, the page will turn soon and I won't do it again. 🙂

                      1. Patch
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        1 hour, 42 minutes. Page still hasn't turned!

                        I haven't read the post yet, but the banter about its length is great value.

                      2. Caravagio
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        I think its good article. It may be a little lengthy but I would have thought this is the perfect time for it? Surely everyone is worried about how the hell they are gna get through the next two months while 'working' without having a few transfers to consider! Having some in depth analysis for the next season is essential for keeping me sane until the pre-season!

                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        FWIW I thought this was a great review. If people think its too long for a post, perhaps submit them as community articles?

              2. Licky
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Nice post, I think Cahill and Hazard would be in my thinking for next season, though my worry would be Zouma there. Apparently Chelsea are after Griezmann too, so that could be an interesting one, may be auto moved in the pecking order to just behind Haz.

                1. Twelve years a slave
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  How can you say Costa is a must? He wasnt this season, is a year older and a terrible card magnate who gains few bonus points.
                  There will be Aguero , a new United striker , probably other options too. Likely very expensive good mids like Hazard, Bale , Silva etc

                  Costa will be an option, but with Hazard being essential, two pricey Chelsea options maybe one too many

                  1. Twelve years a slave
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Magnet even 🙂

                    1. The Light Knight
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Magnate works too 🙂

                      1. Camp No No
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Definitely 😀

                  2. Licky
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I didn't say Costa was a must. 😉 The United striker for me will be something to see about, I don't much like the system at United currently, so it would depend on who came in and how they were playing, personally the situation at Arsenal seems so much more promising.

                    1. Twelve years a slave
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      i was refering to Ruth not you, obviously

                      1. Licky
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        I know, it was under mine, that's why I mentioned it.

                  3. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I said Costa is a must for me, not for you.

                    Personally I'm not at all sure Hazard will be essential.

                    1. Twelve years a slave
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Heard enough for one night

                      Night all

                      1. Carlos Kickaball
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        I think the fact that you say Hazard is essential, but seemingly admonish Ruth for suggesting Costa will be, shows a certain amount of foolish hardheadedness even naivety on your part Triggerlips.

                        If Hazard is more than Costa (which he may well be after this years performance), they are both fit, and Costa looks to be scoring similarly or better, then if you only pick one (as your previous posts suggests and I would agree that funds will be tighter so it probably will come down to this) then Costa may be the best choice. Costa was the captaincy choice over Hazard for much of the season for me, and for the first third of the season for most. I would have thought that a supposedly experienced and knowledgable FPL manager would have realised these kind of basics, rather than just peddling out assertions that the top scorer out of the two this year is better whatever.

                        No doubt if Costa bangs them in as quickly as he did at the start of last season, and Hazard gets off to a slow start, you'll be telling everyone on your blog how Costa is the only Chelsea attacker you need and forgetting you ever made some of these posts.

                        1. Carlos Kickaball
                          • 9 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          PS Didn't mean to be too harsh, but just feel like good but counterintuitive options sometimes get given short shrift, for pretty insubstantial reasons.

              3. Kurtinho
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Maybe submit these as articles? Just a suggestion.

                1. Ruth_NZ
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Thanks, I did think of that but it's probably more than 2000 words and I don't like having my stuff edited.

                  It's fairly clear though - multiple upvotes for "tl;dr" and for "it should be an article". I get the message.

                  The strange thing is that if I came on here and read something like this about Arsenal, say, from an Arsenal fan that knows the club really well I'd find it really interesting and useful. Seems like others see the site in a different way and if that's the case I'm fine with that too.

                  1. Licky
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    The problem is that posting in the deadzone unfortunately means less people get to see it, posting it during peak hours an the page moves too quickly, I think you should submit it, it'd be a shame for them to get overlooked.

                    1. Marknlard
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Yes, that's the best idea to me.

                      I'd also suggest hanging on a bit to see how the transfers go in the summer. The articles can still be drafted but updated just before publication.

                      As for editing, that's the trade-off and one that frustrates lots of writers. Reach a bigger audience but have your ideas compromised.

                      1. Licky
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        I'm sure even if its edited RUTH can share his/her thoughts with posters inquiring below the article too.

                  2. Kurtinho
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    It's a good write-up, I did read and enjoy it. Just suggesting it's probably best in article form. The Cuadrado bit is interesting, he'll no doubt be of good value next season if he gets the minutes.

                  3. Patch
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Have you had an article edited by the mods? The article I submitted earlier this season was subject only to a couple of very minor edits, which I was happy with.

              4. tm245
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I am just on the site and catching up with the posts on this page. If you are actually interested in feedback or dialogue, I have a few thoughts for you.

                This is very long and if you plan to do it for every team it might indeed be a great series of articles, since they are thoughtfully written and would be popular reading/reference for people floating in and out of here over the summer instead of trying to find a bunch of Hot Topic'd needles in haystacks.

                Your tone with the first poster was way over the top. I don't know if the Janus bit is a lark or not, but comparing yourself to a god, belittling a harmless bit of banter that is the coin of the realm in these parts from a respected member of the community, and using that playfully combative combine for a very mixed message. Do you want conversation, or followers, or victory?

                You are a very counterintuitive and insightful reader of this game, so maybe your own blog would be the way to go, but if you are going to use this site and its bandwidth for your platform, attacking respondents to discussions you have started seems unfair.

                If you are Rickardinho, I finished top 10 in Fantrax with an epic 50 point final week. Walcott, Diouf, Wilshere, Kolarov. Wish I had done so in FPL...

                1. Ruth_NZ
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  1. I won't be doing it for every team. It's obviously considered inappropriate (which is fine).
                  2. I'm not comparing myself to a God (bizarre idea). I called it "Janus" because I was aiming to look both ways (backwards and forwards).
                  3. I can't see anything wrong in my response to TLK, it wasn't aggressive. To me, "tl;dr" seems a pretty poor response to a post and I didn't realise it was meant in good humour.
                  4. I'm not Rickardinho and have no idea who he is.

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    The situation has now changed. I have emailed with Jonty and these reviews will be appearing as articles on the site. But they will be posted here first so that comments made can be taken into account in the final revision.

              5. Jay_
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I enjoyed reading that Ruth I captained Costa only 1 less game than Aguero this season and Costa still got better average captain points than Aguero, despite having Kun captain for his 4 v Spurs and 3 v QPR, Ivan and Costa first 2 names on my team sheet for sure.

                • Holmes
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Similar thoughts re midfield, will probably start with Fabregas and switching to other(Hazard/Cuadrado) if and when required. Have high hopes from Oscar but I guess Chelsea is not the correct place for him.
                  To have both, Kun and Costa in team is going to be tricky task at start but thats probably an ideal front line. Kun, Costa, Fabregas and Chelsea defender will cost around 40% of the budget 😀
                  Switching to 4-4-2 at start may not be a good idea as their are comparatively less CSs in 1st half of the season. But to afford Kun and Costa upfront without doing much damage to other positions, it is a good idea.

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Well, this is the thing. Costa and Aguero is expensive.

                    There is another thing too. If you look at points per £1m (value) the premium defenders seem to justify their prices better than premium midfielders and strikers.

                    If we take 22.5 points/£1m as a cutoff point, 7 defenders valued 5.6 or more have beaten that (JT 24.9, Jagielka 24.5, Bertrand/Clyne/Fonte 24.1/24.0, Ivan 23.2 and Cresswell 23.0).

                    There is no premium midfielder delivering that level of value (best is Hazard at 21.6) and the premium forwards are way away (best Aguero at 16.7).

                    You need 2 or 3 premium midfielders/forwards as captain options and the value equation is different for them. But if value is king for the rest of the squad then premium defenders have a lot to say for them, hence the consideration of 4-4-2.

                • Nobodinho
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Nice post. Thanks Ruth

                • Zasa
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Good bit Ruth, albeit I do agree with others that this may have been better submitted as an article. I've also posted long pieces earlier in the season only for it to have been deemed tl:dr with 4-6 upvotes at most, or just dismissed entirely because it was too long. Seen some witty one-liners that take 2 seconds to come up with receive 10 or 20 upvotes and garner more discussion that posts like these, which is really a shame to be honest. Think an article would have helped in garnering more discussion for sure,

                  Anyway, I liked reading your take on Cuadrado. I know many Chelsea fans have a bitter taste in their mouth about his signing, but I've followed his play since his Udinese days and it's been so disappointing seeing him progress and cement his place on the team rather slowly. A confident, well placed Juan Cuadrado is a menace on the pitch, taking on defenders on the right and letting his creative juices flowing as the versatile playmaker he is.

                  Am personally hoping Willian's role on your side slims down, as arguably (along with Cahill until recent matches) has been the worst performing player in the XI, IMO. I understand a grand part of his role under Mou is the defensive work-rate he puts in to cover Ivan's overlaps, but he's really left much to be desired offensively. The core of his play as a winger is to provide those crosses in the box, take on defenders, provide width and more importantly provide that extra outlet going forward. Too many times watching Chelsea matches have I seen genuine build-ups and plays die because of the inertia that is Willian in your frontline. The dynamism of the of that spot is so crucial and so it the extra humph of attacking fuel the winger provides, a player like Cuadrado I'm guessing was signed for said reason, no?

                  To be fair on Cuadrado he was signed halfway through the season, and although expectations for a World Cup star are always high, this Chelsea outfit really has an engine of it's own. Can't expect a non-English speaking player to come out guns-ho, hopefully a good pre-season under his belt will better him and his understanding of what his role under Mou will be.

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Interesting to read your comments about Cuadrado, I don't watch much Italian football and only remember watching him at the World Cup. I don't think many Chelsea fans have a "bitter taste" about him; judgement is generally being reserved till next season because January signings new to the PL often take a while to settle in. Personally I see good signs as I said in my post. The big question from a FPL perspective is whether he'll become a 1st choice starter.

                    Willian divides opinion. Personally I like him a lot, he offers the work rate of Ramires but with more talent. Mourinho has been telling him he needs to score more and that's the thing; with better end product he would be a really fine player. I guess it's a question of whether Jose can "get inside his head" enough to help him make one more step up.

                    1. Wonderful Wizard Hazard
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I like Willian and he is able to take on defenders and get into good positions, but then as Zasa says he ends up killing plays. I think he is too trigger happy and took too many shots when he clearly didn't have a chance.

                      I'm not necessarily bitter about Cuadrado, but I am bitter about letting Schrule leave. I think he is better than Willian and Cuadrado, but he doesn't play enough defense for Mou and that's why he had to go. Abramovich and Mou say they want to build attacking side, but as long as Mou is there, it will always be pragmatic. Coming from a CHE fan. KTBFFH!

                • Amateur Pundit Zan
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  A few thoughts

                  Not sure Mourinho teams have got much more attacking, rather their goals tend to come in batches in easier matches and at less congested times of years aka flat track bullies. Getting on their attacking assets when the stars align is well worth while

                  I agree re where they need to strengthen. Freeing up fab to play him in the hole would make him an excellent option if he comes in around the 9m mark.

                  Haz early on may be too expensive at first but I'll be piling on the early tv in readiness. I would not assume because Costa was given the penalties in advance this week that he will therefore keep them.

                  4-4-2 is not a good team set up but I'd love you to try and prove me wrong 😉

                  I won't critique your post itself or it's timing/placement. We all free not to read it.

                  1. Twelve years a slave
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Is Ruth Rickardinho?

                    Posting style the same, time of posting the same and would account for the lack of link to team

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      No

                    2. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      No he isn't

                    3. Zasa
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Aye, I also thought about that earlier on. Fwiw only two people on here ever posted the FFFix top 10 transfer trends, Ruth and Rick. Though I do think the similarities are uncanny, plus Ruth did start posting shortly after Rick "retired". Was all a bit too "coincidental" to be honest.

                      No qualms with Ruth though, but was always curious as to why Rick would just quit after his great season

                      1. Ryan
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        This really needs to be put to bed. They both have different FPL teams so I have no idea how a comparison can be drawn unless you think they/he broke the rules and put in two sides.

                        1. Zasa
                          • 9 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          My bad Ryan, didn't mean to drag this on.

                          1. Ryan
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            You can be assured that Rick and Ruth are not one and the same.

                            1. Zasa
                              • 9 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              Will do Ryan, will do. Sorry for the inquiries 🙂 I enjoy Ruth's posts.

                • Ryan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  A lot will depend on the fixtures for me. If Chelsea start with a tough schedule I may not get any Chelsea players. Having a much tighter budget will mean I can probably only afford 4 big hitters so I'd need to prioritise those with strong early fixtures.

                  If Chelsea do have strong early fixtures then I would certainly consider a defender and probably Costa. Hazard has been known for having slow starts before so I'd be happy enough to go without especially as Fabregas will likely be a lot cheaper and tends to do well in the first half of a season. I know that I'd only limit myself to two Chelsea assets though for the benefit of a having a balanced side early doors.

                  1. Twelve years a slave
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Just think it odd that a person writing these long fantasy posts wont link their team, i like to know if people who talk hve walked the walk, otherwise you might just as well follow the advice of my cat (tiggerlips!!!)

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Each to their own. Got a very respectable rank playing FPL quite differently to the template.

                    2. Ryan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Yeah I see where you are coming from. I think Ruth NZ shouldn't be afraid to link his team next season because people already respect what he has to say and doesn't necessarily need to prove anything. He should back his ability as a FPL manager so naturally a good rank should follow.

                • Nickofoz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Interesting post Ruth.

                  If Ivanovic is 7.5 and Terry 7.0, who do you think is the better option?

                  I disagree on the Hazard not on pens post, even when Hazard missed in UCL this season Mou confirmed he will remain on them, it was probably to get him to 20 BPL goals and maybe for a boost in confidence. Mourinho is typically a "don't fix things that aren't broken" manager, so I don't see why he would permanently take Hazard off pens.

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I don't know for sure as I wrote above. All I know is what I saw and there was no doubt in any player's mind that Costa had the penalty. And Hazard did miss 2 during the season.

                    Ivan at 7.5 or JT at 7.0? Very marginal. Hopefully JT will be 6.5 and make the decision easy. 🙂

                    1. Nickofoz
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Well they probably had some agreement pre game, that if Drogba was on the pitch he would take it for obvious reasons or if Costa was on he would to tick over to 20.

                      1. Ruth_NZ
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Could be. We'll find out in due course, probably during pre-season. Next penalty when Costa/Fabregas/Hazard are on the pitch will tell the story.

                    2. Wonderful Wizard Hazard
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Ivanovich finished the season at 179 points and JT at 177 points. The decision is easy for me, go with whoever is cheaper and hold them for the entire season. If you have some spare change in your initial draft, then go with Ivanovic because he always scores goals in the beginning of the season, then switch in JT later.

                    3. Camp No No
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      But he finished the second one with style after it was saved, to be honest. Why would he have been demoted in order for that? Especially if it was to promote Costa, who has an awful penalty taking history, for the first taker. I think it was to get him that 20th goal.

                • Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Pitching to become a scout again.... please FFS don't do it....

                • Albertini
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Excellent post Ruth, thanks, it's always good to have a detailed analysis from someone like you who goes to a lot of games at SB.
                  Looking forward to those next posts, hope you still have the intention of putting them here in spite of some negative comments.

                • J0E
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 14 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Chelsea are often superb as a fantasy asset at the start of the season. Season defining in some ways. I remember the seasons where Malouda, Lampard and Drogba were hammering in goals and FPL points for the first 12 weeks or so. Failure to pick two of them would be lethal.

                  Ivanovic too is incredibly efficient at the start.

                  Depending on fixtures (as Mourinho still favours conservative defence in the games against serious rivals) I'll be looking at Ivan, Hazard and Costa as the spine of my team. This, however will rely on next season's crop of bargains replicate the success of this seasons.

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    The point about Jose setting up more defensively against top teams is very right. The counter-intuitive thing about that is that the toughest games are in some ways the "best" games for Chelsea defenders from a FPL standpoint.

                    Chelsea tend to lose a bit of concentration and let in a goal when cruising at 3-0 or 4-0 up. When they are 0-0 or 1-0 up against difficult opponents they are much less likely to do that. And 0-0 or 1-0 games are the ones where defenders tend to hoover up the BPs.

                • El Muñeco
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  "neither Ramires nor Mikel are really of high enough quality for a team that wants to win the CL"

                  erm... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FdqIthU0s

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Yep. I remember that goal very well. But I stand by my appraisal nevertheless.

                • One Game at a Time
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Thanks Ruth_NZ a really interesting and thought provoking piece. I think the the Hazard vs Fabregas decision will be key - though this year I couldn't make it and ended up starting with both, which worked out well. I look forward to seeing your assessments for the other teams.

                • Barry Woj
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Nice post!

                • Wonderful Wizard Hazard
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Great post, thanks man! I personally don't care if it is article form or not, it got picked up as a hot topic and easy for me to read. I know some disagree, but I agree with your Costa analysis. He was the best striker for the first half of the season (maybe a little less), and I will be planning on one CHE defender and Costa. I went without Hazard at the beginning of last season, and it worked out as he didn't get going for a couple of months. That may have been due to WC. Ultimately prices will effect who I go with. I think you'll want one of Costa or Hazard.

                • prata
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  superb work! can you do one for city and arsenal?

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I emailed with Jonty and they will be coming out as articles. My plan will be to cover all 20 teams.

                    1. Jawain - 9th overall 2014/2…
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Great work! Really like the post above and all your long posts. Makes me think everytime even if I may not necessarily agree with it - keep it up.

                    2. The Mighty One
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Awesome! Glad to hear that! Don't get frustrated by any "too long" replies. They're just joking...we all like in-depth write-ups here!! Cheers.

                • Wishdom Teeth
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Very good article but I would like to add a bit :
                  About oscar mourinho told reporters: "I have a feeling that Oscar, next year, can have the same evolution that Hazard had this season.

                  "He has never had a pre-season in his life because of tournaments but now he will have a pre-season because he is injured for the Copa America."
                  May be not straight forward as this but I expect oscar to play an important role next season.

                  Second thing is Hazard is still chelsea's first choice penalty taker. Mourinho confirmed that in press conference later. Chelsea official twitter handle tweeted after the match - "Jose says Drogba would have taken the penalty had he been on the pitch and it was Hazard who allowed Diego Costa to take it. #CFC"

                  From Drogba and Jose's recent interview we can conclude that chelsea will sign at least 3 or 4 player to challenge in all front. I am not sure who those player will be as there are lots of rumour about chelsea.

                  Personally I will have hazard and one of terry and ivanovic in my team regardless of fixture. But for other slot I will monitor how things pan out in coming months.

                  1. Jawain - 9th overall 2014/2…
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I agree about Oscar. Could be a great asset this coming season.

                  2. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    OK, thanks for the info about Hazard and penalties, I hadn't seen those quotes.

                  3. The Mighty One
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    You need to set your Grav as Doctor Teeth and the Electric Mayhem!!

                • Margarido
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Really nice post.
                  Agree with most of it..
                  The real issue its seeing if Cuadrado can regain his Fiorentina/Colombia form.

                  What about Benteke?
                  Will it be good for Chelsea and for him?!

                  Keep it up Ruth.

                • the Penman
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Great article, thanks.

                  With the defenders, I was stung by missing out on JT at the start of the first Jose season post-Benitez - "he'll be rotated", "he's on his way out", "Jose won't just stick with him because he did at his first spell at Chelsea". How wrong I was - and I wasn't going to make that mistake twice.

                  However, having seen two seasons of Jose's "new" Chelsea, I have to say - I'll be starting my season with Ivanovic, and only switching to Terry later on if I need to. Either that, or doubling up with both of them - if Ivanovic fulfils his attacking potential and turns all those surges into the box into more goals and assists than this season. He gets a fast start to the season, he is in the vanguard of Chelsea's attack when they're in guns blazing mode (which they seem to want to be permanently, and were only prevented from doing by injury to Costa), and he'll surely not be any more expensive than JT in 2015/16 FPL.

                  As for who that leaves as FPL options - I agree with some of the other commenters here that Costa isn't good enough value for his likely price point, which leaves a dilemma - plump for Hazard (and hope that the early season cobwebs for his opponents mean they have forgotten how to stop him), or take a punt on Fabregas having surging early season attacking form, Cudardo fulfilling his potential, Willian refining some end product or Oscar taking a step up in pre season with some focussed attention instead of a tournament to feature in? Currently, it depends on price - will a defender start at 6.5? will Hazard be 11.0 or will he be more? will Fabregas get a big hike into double figures?

                  tl;dr - Ivanovic starts better than JT; might double up; Costa is poor value; Hazard v Fab v the rest depends on price.

                • buffrey
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Amazing post. Very much look forward to further ones. In fact is there something I can sign up to so I don't miss them?

                  This forum is for FPL fanatics and in close season this is what I want to see. All about prep for next year. Pointless guesses about prices and/or people wanting to change the rules of a not broken game are redundant. This is where it is at.

                  Keep it up. I would offer assistance but as an Exeter City fan I have no internal knowledge bar the hours I've spent researching pre teams for FPL benefit.

              6. Just A Hat
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                This page has gone for ages!

                1. Jay_
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I've been visiting this site for around 11 months now and it's by far the longest time wise and biggest word wise I've ever seen 😀

                    1. Licky
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Most likely down to me...

                      1. Jay_
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          It's been a good page, I'm usually on in the deadzone as it's more laid back but this is a super deadzone, much more preferable, will make for good late night reading all summer popping in and out of here 🙂

                  • BeachBadger
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Just popped in and no one has posted for an hour. the reality that this season is over has finally sunk in 🙁

                    1. Just A Hat
                      • 14 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I'm around causing trouble

                      1. BeachBadger
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Haha good stuff hat. Good season for you? Any life lessons learned?

                        1. Just A Hat
                          • 14 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          yeah, fantastic season - I won my ML by 1 point! It pretty much came down to Remy scoring that third goal which cost Hazard a bonus point lol

                          Are you excited for next season??

                    2. Licky
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I'm sure we all just need a good subject matter to get us interested again... then again maybe its just me. :/

                      1. BeachBadger
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Good subject matter is always interesting alright but I fear even that may be too much for the super DZ 😆 Last year we resorted to favourite types of crisps 😀

                        1. Licky
                          • 11 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Smoky Bacon. Hands down.

                          1. BeachBadger
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            Cheese and Onion meself though it's hard to top a packet of skips

                            1. Licky
                              • 11 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              ... or Monster Munch. Or Meanies even!

                        2. Ryan
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                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          In NZ we just call them chips (no distinction with hot chips).

                          Salt and Vinegar here.

                    3. Holmes
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Oh, I actually slept for 1hr and only 1 new post. Boom! 😀

                      1. BeachBadger
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Have a feeling I might be getting more sleep over the next month 😀 Maybe even be productive a t work

                    4. Patch
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      No, I'm not ready to face the fact that it's over.

                      1. BeachBadger
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        The first stage is denial 😀

                    5. Patch
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Not sure where you guys are geographically speaking but I'm in Canberra, Australia and during the EPL off-season it's well cold here. Such a grim couple of months.

                      1. Just A Hat
                        • 14 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Canadaaa

                        1. Patch
                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          So you know what cold's all about. At least you have FPL in winter.

                      2. Zasa
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Same here man 🙁 Chile, just about entering Winter here.

                        1. Patch
                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          So, what's the plan? Resort to FIFA and Football Manager? I usually end up being tempted to start following the AFL (Australian Football League), which is a crazy game we invented. As soon as the FPL price list comes out though I'm fully focussed.

                          1. Zasa
                            • 9 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            No idea 🙁 At least you have half a plan sorted out! FIFA is a classic time killer, think I'm gonna kill some time with the Copa America fantasy game and try to go one of the matches here if they're not too costly.

                            For now, I wouldn't mind some friendly chess matches with folks around here if they're into it 😉 If you're into AFL, why not try the MLS game? Hear it's pretty worthwhile mate

                            1. Marknlard
                              • 14 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              I'll play you at chess! Do you use an app? I'm on the chess.com app.

                              1. Zasa
                                • 9 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                I'm down! What's your username?

                                1. Marknlard
                                  • 14 Years
                                  8 years, 11 months ago

                                  I am:

                                  beardobeardo

                                  1. Zasa
                                    • 9 Years
                                    8 years, 11 months ago

                                    Classy, I can see Pirlo has influenced your chess game eh? 😉

                          2. Ryan
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                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            Football manager for the win. Trying to go somewhere with a non league club at the moment.

                            1. Marknlard
                              • 14 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              I'm still a Championship Manager 01/02 player. FM became too much like a chore, micromanaging everything. Spending two evenings with a new club before you even get to the start of the league season. It's like a second job.

                              1. BeachBadger
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                I agree. So much to it. I quite enjoyed FIFA Manager

                                1. Marknlard
                                  • 14 Years
                                  8 years, 11 months ago

                                  The Football Manager app is supposed to be pretty good for banging your way through. I might give that a go.

                                  1. The Sarjeant
                                    • 10 Years
                                    8 years, 11 months ago

                                    I've had the app for the past 3-4 years. The best £6 I've ever spent each year. Absolutely love it. There's a lot of draw backs from the main game that I'd love to see in the app though. But would honestly rate it 10/10 for value and 9.5/10 for the app itself.

                                    1. Marknlard
                                      • 14 Years
                                      8 years, 11 months ago

                                      Cheers Sarjeant, that's a very confident approval.

                                  2. BeachBadger
                                    • 10 Years
                                    8 years, 11 months ago

                                    Hmm I had it before but found it difficult to navigate. Was before I was used to the FM format though so maybe that was making things to complex for me on the small screen

                              2. Ryan
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                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                I wouldn't know any better. Started getting into it 4 years ago because FIFA career mode wasn't technical enough for me. I wanted more.

                              3. Patch
                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                Have you tried Classic Mode in the recent FM games? I find it pretty good for focusing on transfers and tactics and leaving out team talks, training, etc.

                                1. Ryan
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                                  • 12 Years
                                  8 years, 11 months ago

                                  I just get the assistant to do the bulk of the work whilst still having the ability to alter it if I feel its necessary.

                      3. BeachBadger
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Im in Korea. Weather is perfect at the minute. About to get into too hot and humid season soon though so making the most of it now

                      4. Holmes
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        India. Exams period till 12th of June, playing MLS fantasy to waste some time 😛

                      5. Amateur Pundit Zan
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        I hear you patch

                        In Melbourne winter sucks.

                        Cold with no fpl or Xmas distractions.

                      6. Ryan
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Yeah it sure is. The FPL off season would be much easier to deal with if it was summer.

                    6. Ryan
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                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Yeah 10 hour DZ pages will be upon us soon enough.

                      1. BeachBadger
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Gonna be rough. Hope there's loads of transfer speculation or whatnot to keep us interested 😀

                        1. Ryan
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                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Once we've run out of things to talk about it'll happen.

                          The post mortem of this season will last at least a week I reckon

                          1. BeachBadger
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            Yeah dissecting stats and stuff is still fairly interesting at the minute. Once Saturday rolls around and theres no games or anything to show for all our discussion though it's sure to switch a lot of people off alright 😀

                            1. Ryan
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                              • 12 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              Yeah, I reckon next week will be extremely dead.

                  • Holmes
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Other than football, which sports do you watch?

                    1. Zasa
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      NBA, F1, tennis, NFL play-offs, and Chess 😉

                      1. Holmes
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Cool, I used to watch F1 and tennis. Chess and Golf are bit boring 😀
                        Is there any difference between NFL and Rugby? Or they are completely different?

                        1. Ryan
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                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Totally different

                          1. Holmes
                            • 10 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            Ah, ok. I have seen Rugby but never got a chance to watch NFL. Saw some posters with players running with same type of ball but wearing helmets, so thought it must be same game with different name 😛

                            1. Ryan
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                              • 12 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              Its all set pieces and about making certain gains in each set piece. I'm no expert but thats the crux of it. They have an endzone which is like the try scoring area for rugby so the ultimate goal is the same. In NFL you can also pass forwards and there are no offsides.

                              1. Marknlard
                                • 14 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                There are offsides.

                                1. Ryan
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                                  • 12 Years
                                  8 years, 11 months ago

                                  Yeah I guess what I meant to say was the distinction with how offsides are differentiated between rugby and NFL. In Rugby you can't send a ball to a player in front of you via passing (no forward passes) or kicking (offside).

                        2. Zasa
                          • 9 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          They definitely are, not the best spectator sport that's for sure 😉

                          I can't speak about the Rugby side of things, but the differences are pretty big. Materialistically, more equipment with padding, helmets, etc for the NFL. Both goals at the end of the day though are to get the oval ball past the oppositions half by diving or just running into it. They're pretty different beasts though mate, NFL is a classic American game and just has rules galore. It's definitely better to play IMO.

                          1. Ryan
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                            • 12 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            NFL is almost entirely about set pieces whereas rugby is more free flowing with a mixture of set pieces and open play.

                            1. Zasa
                              • 9 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              Aye, it's a traditional European sport like football. The one complaint I have about American sports with all the emphasis on propaganda during games which has always killed the rhythm of the matches for me. American football is definitely a better sport when you're actually playing, nothing like backyard 6 v 6 with a group of friends 🙂

                              1. Ryan
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                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                Yeah I have to admit, NFL is fun to play. Its all the adds and stoppages which puts me off American sports.

                                1. fedolefan
                                  • 9 Years
                                  8 years, 11 months ago

                                  It's why I just can't watch American sports.

                                2. Zasa
                                  • 9 Years
                                  8 years, 11 months ago

                                  I know 🙁 It's a sad reality which always leaves American sports in a bad light internationally. The NBA is at least better in that regard until that 4th quarter when the heavy timeouts start and fouling commences. Same goes for baseball, god that stuff is boring on tv, but going to a match is a great experience, totally different from the game on tv.

                                  1. Ryan
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                                    • 12 Years
                                    8 years, 11 months ago

                                    Yeah attending matches would be much better for the very fact that there are no ads.

                    2. Patch
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Cricket, though not at this time of year.

                    3. BeachBadger
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Hurling and rugby but hard to see games over here so mostly stick to footie

                    4. Ryan
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                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Rugby and Cricket mainly. I get into the America's cup (sailing) when its on once every 4 years or so as well.

                    5. Amateur Pundit Zan
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      International rugby
                      Cricket
                      Afl
                      Olympics
                      Tennis (Aus open only)

                  • Amateur Pundit Zan
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    When does the women's World Cup start?

                    Any fantasy comps going to happen for that?

                    #cantgiveitup

                    1. Zasa
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I can't even think of a smiley for this Zan 😉

                      1. Zasa
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        But the Copa America game will hopefully be good, starts in June

                        1. WALOR
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Look for a fantasy game from UEFA.com for the UEFA European Under-21 Championship, June 17-30th.

                  • Just A Hat
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    We should start an online pool DZ competition

                    1. Zasa
                      • 9 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Not sure if anyone has a big enough indoor pool to be honest, plus who would bring the camera to stream it? 😉

                      1. Zasa
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        But I'd be game for that hat, would dig any game exclusively for us DZers 🙂

                    2. BeachBadger
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Lol just pick a random internet game each day and see who can get the highest score 😆

                      1. Just A Hat
                        • 14 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        haha

                    3. Ryan
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                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I'm up for mini golf.

                      1. Just A Hat
                        • 14 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        yeah that would be good to actually

                        1. Ryan
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                          • 12 Years
                          8 years, 11 months ago

                          Used to play it years ago when I was a kid with classmates before school. It was often the only game there was on a classroom computer.

                          1. Licky
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 11 months ago

                            We had Medal of Honor: Allied Assault LAN multiplayer. 😉

                            1. Ryan
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                              • 12 Years
                              8 years, 11 months ago

                              Blimey, you must be a lot younger than me. I remember there being a game where you were a paper run boy on a bike and the aim was to throw papers in windows and stuff as you peddled by.

                              1. Ryan
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                                • 12 Years
                                8 years, 11 months ago

                                I actually tried to get to school really early so I could play it as well 😀

                  • Marknlard
                    • 14 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    In Peru and a goalie takes being booked quite badly.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3YCCAaYCKI

                  • The Sarjeant
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Any Americans online? Used to be fairly interested in NBA a few years ago and I fancy a go at playing a fantasy NBA game. Anyone know the best site to use and when does the season start/end?

                    1. Billy Gilmore
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Snake Juice runs a draft league on Yahoo with him, myself, NABIL, Les Bleus, Requiemofdream and a few of his mates.

                      It's a weekly H2H game with 9 categories (Points, Rebounds, Assists, Steals, Blocks, TOs, FG%, FT%, 3-pointers). You draft 14 players and can play up to 11 each day, with slight positional restrictions. All your players who you started have their stats added up and likewise for your opponent. If your players scored more points then you get 1, more Rebs the same etc etc. Only difference is less TOs wins (obviously)

                      It runs for the whole 82-game regular season