Scout Squad

The Scout Squad – Gameweek 15

Our preview of Gameweek 15 continues as we glance at the players in the running for a place in tomorrow’s Scout Picks.

This article aims to give a greater insight into the decision-making process behind our selection, as Mark, Paul and myself list the 18 players we think have the best chance of success across the four positions, listing them in rank order.

The discussions and disagreements that will take place behind the scenes are then showcased, as each of us looks to back our players for a Scout Picks berth or consideration in our Spot the Differential article.

Finally, we will also reveal the Community Champion who has been selected by our lottery to represent the community and be in with a chance of winning a £100 Amazon voucher.

Mark PaulJonty
GoalkeepersWayne HennesseyFraser ForsterHeurelho Gomes
Heurelho GomesHeurelho GomesTom Heaton
Jordan PickfordPaul RobinsonJordan Pickford
DefendersMarcos AlonsoMarcos AlonsoMarcos Alonso
Cedric SoaresMichael KeaneLaurent Koscielny
Michael KeaneShkodran MustafiCedric Soares
Laurent KoscielnyCedric SoaresMichael Keane
Scott DannJose HolebasJose Holebas
MidfieldersAlexis SanchezAlexis SanchezEden Hazard
Eden HazardEden HazardAlexis Sanchez
Gylfi SigurdssonRoberto FirminoRoberto Firmino
Roberto FirminoGylfi SigurdssonKevin De Bruyne
Wilfried ZahaEmre CanGylfi Sigurdsson
ForwardsDiego CostaDiego CostaDiego Costa
Jermain DefoeCharlie AustinJermain Defoe
Christian BentekeDivock OrigiChristian Benteke
Charlie AustinJermain DefoeKelechi Iheanacho
Divock OrigiChristian BentekeDivock Origi

Goalkeepers

We’re immediately backing a Gameweek 15 shut-out for Watford, with their 2.1% owned stopper Heurelho Gomes (4.9) earning support from all three of us, including top billing in my selection.

The woeful form in front of goal of visitors Everton, who have scored just twice in four, is the key factor at play. Ronald Koeman’s men will also be without the energy and flair of Yannick Bolasie at Vicarage Road.

Hull City’s similarly poor recent scoring record, with just three goals in their last six league matches, has prompted Mark to hand Wayne Hennessey (4.3) star status when Crystal Palace drop by the KC Stadium on Saturday.

However, Paul’s top pick of Southampton’s Fraser Forster (4.7) is set to face a sterner test when Middlesbrough visit. Aitor Karanka’s troops have scored in five of their seven away encounters, while the Saints have conceded 10 goals on home turf.

Elsewhere among our keeper picks, budget priced Jordan Pickford (4.2) gets the nod from Mark and myself ahead of Sunderland’s visit to Swansea City. But the 15.1% owned starlet may have to rely on save points to prevail; the Welsh outfit have scored on 10 occasions at the Liberty Stadium, making a clean sheet for the Black Cats appear unlikely.

A shut-out for Burnley, when Bournemouth drop in on Turf Moor, is also tipped by the pair of us, although for me, I’m only confident if regular keeper Tom Heaton (4.8) returns from an injury lay-off.

Paul believes that, even if the Clarets’ veteran keeper Paul Robinson (4.0) deputises once again, a clean sheet is still on the cards, as the Cherries have scored just five goals in seven away outings.

Defenders

Once again Chelsea’s Marcos Alonso (6.2) earns top billing, with the marauding left wing-back earning a unanimous nomination ahead of West Brom’s visit to Stamford Bridge.

Given that the 6.7% owned Spaniard has delivered either a clean sheet or attacking returns in all but one of his last eight Gameweek appearances, he seems a shoo-in for Friday’s final shake-down.

Cedric Soares (5.0) and Michael Keane (4.9) are the only other two defenders to gain support from all three of us.

If Southampton are to gain a clean sheet against Middlesbrough, the 2.2% owned Portuguese right-back has every chance of earning supplementary points, having picked up FPL bonus returns in three of his five shut-outs.

Meanwhile, Burnley’s Keane offers the real prospect of points at both ends of the pitch having registered 10 close range efforts this season. This is a tally bettered only by Stoke’s Ryan Shawcross and, another of Mark’s picks this week, Scott Dann (5.3).

“There’s no doubt that Michael Keane’s stock would be increased by Tom Heaton’s return against Bournemouth but, for me, the defender still warrants consideration. He’s been the big goal threat among defenders in recent weeks and Sean Dyche will surely be targeting set-pieces as a route to goal against the Cherries.” – Mark

The 3.6% owned Palace centre-back certainly presents a case for inclusion in Friday’s Picks, having scored twice already this season. He visits a Hull City side that has conceded more shots in the box at home than any other Premier League outfit so far.

Paul and I carry our faith in a Watford clean sheet over to our defender choices, with the 7.3% owned Jose Holebas (4.8) awarded a tentative fifth spot from both of us.

Price may be the final arbiter should we opt for an Arsenal defender for Stoke City’s visit to the Emirates.

With the bulk of our 84 million budget likely to be earmarked for heavy-hitters in midfield, we may be forced to overlook both Laurent Koscielny (6.6) and Shkodran Mustafi (6.1).

Midfielders

A hat-trick in the 5-1 blitz of West Ham United saw Alexis Sanchez fetch his sixth double-digit FPL points haul of the season, surely ensuring that the Chilean is certainty for a place in Friday’s Picks.

But while Mark and Paul have had no hesitation in ranking him as their first squad pick, I’ve only handed the Gunners attacker second spot with Eden Hazard (10.4) my tip to be Gameweek 15’s top scoring midfielder ahead of his meeting with West Brom.

I believe that the 36.4% owned Belgian’s stronger home form gives him the edge over the on-fire Sanchez. At Stamford Bridge, Hazard has returned 60 FPL points, compared to Sanchez’s 41 over the same number of Emirates matches.

Roberto Firmino (8.8) and Gylfi Sigurdsson (7.4) are two more names to earn support across the board.

The Liverpool midfielder may have gone three matches without attacking returns, but a spot in my goals imminent table suggests that drought could end this weekend, particularly as the Reds entertain a West Ham United side that has now shipped 10 goals in their last four outings.

Swansea City’s ‘false nine’ Sigurdsson looks another certainty for selection on Friday, on the back of two goals and three assists in his last five Gameweeks.

I was surprised to see that I am the only one backing a strong Gameweek from Manchester City’s Kevin De Bruyne (10.8), particularly as Sergio Aguero will be starting a four-match ban.

The 10.4% owned Belgian excelled the last time Aguero was stuck in the stands, scoring 27 points over Gameweeks 4 and 5. He travels to a beleaguered Leicester City side that has conceded eight goals in their last four league outings and who were thrashed in Portugal on Wednesday night.

Meanwhile, Mark is tipping Wilfried Zaha (5.4) for profit from Crystal Palace’s match at Hull City. The 5.5% owned winger has certainly impressed on the road in recent weeks, with attacking returns in three of his last four away trips.

“There appears to be conveyor belt of mid-price midfield assets right now but Zaha has shown some consistency. Conspicuous by his absence among the returns in last weekend’s Gameweek 14 victory, I feel he’ll be a factor again at Hull City. He’s likely to be up against Andrew Robertson, who is a fine full-back but one that that likes to contribute to the attack. I feel that Zaha could get the better of that key battle.” – Mark

Paul will be hoping there’s a promotion to the Scout Picks for Liverpool’s Emre Can (4.9), who was rewarded a mention in our Spot the Differential article last weekend ahead his third goal of the season and an assist, away at Bournemouth. This Saturday’s West Ham encounter looks an ideal setting for the German further his stock as a budget midfield solution.

“I picked Emre Can in last week’s Scout Squad article and am keeping faith again after a goal and assist at Bournemouth. The German’s underlying numbers continue to look exceptional value for money – he’s my budget pick this week at home to West Ham’s dodgy defence. A look at the Big Numbers article suggests Southampton’s Sofiane Boufal is shaping up to be a decent mid-price differential, though.” – Paul

Forwards

Once again I’m on my own in backing a Manchester City asset in this position.

As with De Bruyne, Kelechi Iheanacho (6.6) proved himself to be a strong source of points during Aguero’s first spell of absence this season. The last time the youngster deputised up front he brought in a total of 20 points over two outings.

My argument for his inclusion is further strengthened by a goal in the Champions League on Tuesday against Celtic.

The Nigerian starlet will be up against Mark and Paul’s pick of Charlie Austin (6.9) for a Scout Picks berth.

The Southampton forward has two goals in his last four outings, but with Middlesbrough conceding only a goal a game on average over their last four matches, I’m certainly leaning towards Iheanacho and am ready to argue his case.

“I’m backing Charlie Austin to produce the goods at home to Middlesbrough. Yes, Southampton have netted just twice in the last four, yet only two sides have fired more shots inside the box than Claude Puel’s men over that period. Impressively, Austin has scored every 114 minutes in front of his own supporters – by comparison, Diego Costa has averaged a goal every 157.3 minutes at Stamford Bridge.” – Paul

There will be little argument among the rest of our striker picks, though.

Not surprisingly, Diego Costa (10.8) is awarded the top nomination from all of us ahead of West Brom’s visit to Stamford Bridge.

The Spaniard, who has been drafted in by more than 170,000 FPL managers since Saturday, looks to have recovered will hopefully recover from the knock that saw him replaced at the end of Chelsea’s victory at Manchester City. Costa has delivered attacking returns in all bar one of his seven home league matches to this point.

Jermain Defoe (7.7) also earns three votes as he prepares to tackle Swansea’s obliging defence, which has conceded 13 goals in their last four matches: more than any other team.

The 23.2% owned Black Cats veteran also has form on his side, having scored his eighth goal of the season at home to Leicester City last time out.

Christian Benteke (7.6) is another mid-price striker contesting a Scout Picks start. He travels to Hull City in search of a fifth goal in as many Gameweeks. The Tigers look set to struggle to shackle the 7.6% owned Belgian, given their aforementioned habit of conceding close range efforts.

Liverpool’s Divock Origi (6.6) could cloud our final selection discussions. He takes on the West Ham defence seeking to make it three goals in as many matches and, given his price, could yet earn at least a spot on our bench.

Community Champion

Representing the Community against the Scout Picks in Gameweek will be Boris Bodega, who is in his fourth season, with 2013/14’s overall finish of 148, 419 his best to date.

The community champion who has the best lead over the Scouts during 2016/17 will win a £100 Amazon voucher (currently we can only offer Amazon.co.uk or Amazon.com vouchers).

Last Gameweek’s champion Prichardson311 was beaten by 103 points to 53.

The current frontrunners are Ziro and VS10_, who both have a 32-point margin of victory over us.

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822 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Piyush CR7
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    I have to play one of these two defenders. Who would u suggest ?
    1.Pieters(vs Arsenal)
    2.Mcauley(vs Chelsea)

    1. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      2

    2. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      1

    3. The Rock
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      2 is a bigger goal threat

    4. JTEXTREME
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      2

    5. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      2

    6. Piyush CR7
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Don't Pieters have a higher chance of getting a clean sheet than McAuley ?

  2. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Its as simple as ABC:

    A - play one - 1 holebas (EVE); 2 - Amat (SUN)
    B - cap one - 1 Hazard (WBA); 2 - Firmino (WHU)
    C - p;lay one - 1 Pickford (swa) 2 - Heaton (BOU)

    1. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      111

    2. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      1 1 2

    3. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      A1. B2. C2

    4. The Rock
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      112

    5. bakayoko
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      1 1 2

    6. elmes85
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      122

    7. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      thanks all!!

    8. LC1
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      1 1 2

    9. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      112

  3. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    I reckon next week might be interesting(like last week when most got Kane/Eriksen).

    If Austin/Firmino/Walcott blank then the knifes would be out for the alternatives...

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Payet

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        He's one of a lot.

    2. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Who would be the Austin alternatives? Can only really see Wilson or Anichebe who both have tough fixtures from next week. Origi and Iheanacho seem to short term

    3. Cruz88
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm watching Walcott and Firmino this week to try to decide who to replace with Eriksen for the week after

  4. Speédy
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Will most probably sell Walcott+Redmond next week,ideal replacements????
    A- payet + can
    B- ozil + de roon
    C- Alli/eriksen,keep redmond

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I like A and I think I will be getting Payet in too

      1. Speédy
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I was on a too,but leaves me with no arsenal cover

  5. pax888
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    What would you do with 2.6m? No free transfers left so would require a -4.

    Heaton
    Alonso Koscielny Lovren
    Sanchez Mane Gundogan Can
    Costa Kane Austin

    Pickford Amat Evans Fletcher

    Gundogdan > Sigurdsson right?

    1. Ziro
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Buy a yacht.

      1. Ha.
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Good luck

    2. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Gundoo to siggy

    3. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Or son or yaya

    4. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I would do that for a -4

  6. Price changes are part of the game - get over it!
    Burton
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Just listened to the podcast, and am genuinely shocked at this bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBFyemb97K4&t=50m35s

    The scouts, it turns out, fundamentally misunderstand the game they've been playing all these years. Price changes (and how they currently operate) are intrinsic, a key mechanism.

    The earlier you transfer, the less information you have. The later you transfer, the more information you have. The trade-off for this extra info is a potential penalty in player price. Such trade-offs are the bones of any such game. The scouts' suggested solution demonstrates a failure to grasp this most basic element.

    I don't expect fantasy football pundits to have PhDs in game theory or economics, but for them to glibly suggest such a pointless dumbing-down - really a neutering - of the game we all enjoy is astonishing. Step back and have a think please guys!

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      and there was me thinking I take this all a little too seriously...

      1. Burton
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        The best place to joke about taking fantasy football too seriously probably isn't a website dedicated to taking fantasy football seriously.

        1. Geoff
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          😀

        2. Sconeaus - The Dude Abides
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Funny nonetheless

        3. The Great Statuto
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I think he was serious tho

    2. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I like this summary.

    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Besides no one forces you to trsfr early. I've seen numerous teams with low TV that are doing great.

      1. Colonel Klink
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        The question is, how does low TV affect you in the second half.

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Knowing this guy, I doubt much...

          https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/68971/event/14

          1. Colonel Klink
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            That's still a 102 TV. Many people below 99.

            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Maybe, but those teams are dead or shouldn't be playing. I'm trying to point out the price movement should force early trsfrs. Evs held on to Lukaku(I think he still is) and only sold Kun a day ago.

      2. Burton
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        This is true, and kinda the point. The system is well balanced right now, with the punishment for early transfers broadly equal to the punishment for late transfers. Players get to assert their skill/knowledge/etc. by deciding where on the equilibrium they sit.

        Early transferers are gambling their choices won't play in Europe mid-week, or that an injury wasn't as bad as it looked. Thus knowledge of football (or lack thereof) is woven into the fabric of the game's scoring system. Risks are being taken, and any decent game must have corresponding rewards.

    4. Pochecinno
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      +42

    5. elmes85
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I always have and always will transfer late especially with midweek european fixtures. The risk of injury is too big for me but for others that punt early fair enough

    6. Misery Loves Kompany
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Agreed, I also did a major 😮 at the unanimous agreement on a proposed change of stacking the price changes accumulated throughout the week but only auctioning them on the Friday.

      This would lead to literally everyone's teams being with a small percentage of each other, both in personnel and in team value, I frankly cannot think of a worse thing for the game.

      It would turn into basically logging on Friday, seeing who was about to raise by 0.2 or 0.3, getting them in, and watching everyone else do the same.

      I cannot grasp how hardcore/serious players do not see that more aggressive price change mechanics actually benefit them in the long run, not the other way around.

      1. Burton
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Totally bizarre.

      2. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Why would it lead to any difference in the make up of peoples teams? If there were less early transfers, there would be less price rises so people wouldn't be scared into buying the latest star of the week in case they were priced out of a move in later weeks? The price change mechanism is RESPONSIBLE for everyone having the same players as people are afraid of not being able to afford these players if they don't get them in straight away regardless of fixture.

        For an example look at sigurdsson last week. He had an away game v spurs yet rises 0.2 as people wanted to get him in before he rose too much. This is not football strategy to maximise points it is strategy to maximise value which I don't think should be the name of the game.

        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I agree, it would slow that kind of rise down.

          The main reason that people make transfers early is to not miss the rise or to avoid the fall. On the proposed system (which I agree makes no sense) almost everyone would wait. The bandwagon pressure would be heavily weakened. And as a result of that you would be unlikely to get a rise or fall of more than 0.1 in a week unless they changed the mechanics of how price changes work.

          In other games, prices change based on performance rather than transfers in and out. I don't think we want that. In which case the only sensible solution is to leave it as it is bar (possibly) some tweaking of the rise/fall thresholds.

    7. The Fantastic Mr Fox
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      daily changes r fun. but I would rather no transfers be allowed over the weekend. Having to sell a player before u watch him play on monday since u'r worried about a 0.2-0.3 SV swing is quite annoying

      1. Misery Loves Kompany
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        See i would however be up for a rule if no price changes whilst a gameweek is in progress, that I think has some mileage...

        Once the final ball has been kicked though, bring it on!

      2. Burton
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Equally annoying is getting a player in early (maybe in advance of rises) only to see him go off injured. The game is much richer for both scenarios being possible.

    8. Pep says
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Agreed, you take a risk by getting them in cheap. If you want information closer to the following GW, you pay more for it. The market has been in overdrive the past 2 weeks with Coutinho and Aguerro. Costa has gone up .1 on average every week. I'd hardly call that insane given his returns. Coutinho rose .8 to his highest. That's not .2/.3 every week!

      1. Misery Loves Kompany
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I think the drops algorithm maybe needs a tweak, Coutinho dropping 0.1 on 3x consecutive nights was arguably a bit much.... and he's still dropping, but other than that there's not been much I'd call excessive this year. Lively, definitely, but not excessive.

        1. grig
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          But also Coutinho was transferred out by 1M players last week aka 25% of the whole playerpool. That doesn't happen to players every week either, so I don't consider that to be excessive either tbh.

        2. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Players at or above their starting value rise if their NTI is greater than a fixed percentage of the total number of FPL teams, irrespective of their ownership. They may later fall at the same rate by which they rose until they are back to their starting value.

          But players at or below their starting value fall if their NTO is greater than a percentage of their ownership, and they may later rise at the same rate by which they fell until they are back to their starting value.

          The percentages required are however increased while a player is flagged, or for a second or third price change in the same game-week, and players are also price-protected for a short period after a red flag is removed, and these things all help to prevent the resulting price changes from getting out of hand.

          For players with high ownerships, the number of net transfers required for a price change is greater if they are below their starting value than if they are above it, but the reverse is true for players with low ownership.

          One of the effects of this is that there are likely to be far more fallers among unpopular players than there are risers among more popular ones. But since we are more likely to be buying the players who are rising in price and selling those who are falling, the result is that TVs tend to decrease for dead teams but increase for active players who know what they're doing.

          Popular high ownership players such as Coutinho are probably also more likely to be subject to mass transfers out than others if they suffer a serious injury. So another effect is that injured high ownership players may fall rapidly in price, but not more than 0.3m in the same game-week and only until they are back at their starting prices, after which they will fall more slowly.

          As others have remarked, price changes are an important part of the game, and are one of the factors that we have to take into account when making our decisions. If the price change algorithm or the number of teams making early transfers changes then we have to adapt to the changed circumstances. I am quite happy with the price change algorithm staying as it currently is.

      2. Burton
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Yes, it's not even as if there's been a sudden breakdown of the way the system works. I wonder if the scouts are being leaned on to support a simpler version of the game. 4+ million players is great, but if 75% of them stop looking at the site after a few weeks, that's a lot of ad revenue 'gone' (in the imaginations of the sponsors).

        Probably not of course, but I'm struggling to get my head around their unanimous group-think on this one. Innumerable quiz shows employ the same mechanic, from e.g. Going for Gold back in the day, to Only Connect today - the more info you need, the less you benefit you get when you eventually do make a choice.

    9. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      The ideas I mentioned were ones I'd seen mentioned by the community this week.

      I can't listen to the bit you're talking about right now but I don't think it's a case of not understanding but more a discussion of potential changes.

      1. Burton
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        What's your take then? Because you all seem to agree that extra info shouldn't come at a price, whereas I'd contend that's what makes the game work.

        1. andy85wsm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I'll reply soon when I have some more time 🙂

    10. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Of course we understand that element to the game.

      We all say that price changes are part of the game and that there is an obvious trade off in making early or late moves.

      The point I was making as part of the discussion is because there are so many expensive players performing well at the same time and more than 4m users that it has become a bigger part of the game. Also in my view - and this is just my view by the way - I've never really liked the price change element to it. I accept it. But not liking something is not the same as not understanding it. I play lots of formats and enjoy Sky's no price change element but that's just me. I do accept that prices need to change - just I and others are concerned at the speed of those changes when the game is now so popular.

      The risk /reward element to making early transfers is a key part of the game. No doubt about that. I understand that fully.

      Also you have to remember that the Scoutcast is a place to stimulate discussion on fantasy football. We give views, you give your views in return -that's the point of the scoutcast to include community views and start/ continue debates about Fantasy Football.

      The very fact that you've taken time to have an opinion on things we say warms my heart greatly. Worse thing for us as journalists is to be ignored. 🙂

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        There's more on this discussion on this hot topic

        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/12/05/the-stock-check-gameweek-14-monday/?hc_page=12#hc_comment_14578989

        In fact this is now the third hot topic on price changes this week so good to see we've captured the zeitgeist.

        Another thing to mention is that this year with those like Liverpool and Chelsea not in the champions league or Europe there is minimal risk in making early moves as there were in previous seasons. That's something else that marks this season out.

        Remember last year when Aguero scored so heavily against Newcastle, got drafted in by 1000s and then got injured on international duty. That GWK 8-9 experience will have made many rethink early transfers. This season though there hasn't really been such a scarring incident.

      2. Burton
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Is there any evidence that price changes are happening more quickly than (say) 5 years ago? My impression is slightly the opposite, but it's only an impression.

        But worryingly, Mark - who seems to have the ear of the game's administrators - says he's "definitely going to lobby for" a change to once-weekly price rises. This is no playful 'stimulation of discussion' then.

        If it *was* though, you're essentially advocating a kind of troll-journalism, whereby saying crazy stuff just to provoke a reaction is the same as reasoned comment.

        Anyway, I've got to work, but appreciate yer work (and the other scouts) generally, and your reply here. As you say, there are other games if this one ever dumbs down. Cheers.

        1. andy85wsm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          The one that Mark was going to potentially lobby for won't work now I've thought about it some more. Not unless FPL are going to manually decide pricespecially without an algorithm.

          The idea was that if Sanchez was going to go up by 0.3 in a week it would happen all at the end. On thinking it makes no sense....no one would have made those early transfers to begin with, we would all just wait

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            So he only goes up by 0.1m? That is great, it means when it comes to selling him to take advantage of the next big hitters nice run of games you don't lose as much value and when you go to buy him back he won't have risen by too much either.

            1. andy85wsm
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              That was another idea actually where a rise or fall was max 0.1m a week

              1. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                I understand why people like the price change mechanism as it gives them an advantage over "casual" managers but I would be confident enough to go up against these casuals with just my football knowledge and stats research.

                I think the price change element actually dumbs down these other advantages as we have to make changes before we even know how our squad if fixed for the next few weeks. We are effectively making blind choices a bit like the casual is and the casual will likely not sell the big players in the second half of the season so we are all stuck with the same template due to the value "trap".

                I haven't thought about it overly much but my initial reaction would be that a 0.1 change per week doesn't sound too bad.

          2. Mark
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 17 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            To be honest, the price rises have always been imperfect for me and the subject always rouses my most passionate views on the game - maybe because that's the bit of the game that's kept from us - intentionally and perhaps for the best. My reaction to the suggested idea of delaying the rises was just instant and not thought through - the ScoutCast is spontaneous and hopefully slightly entertaining so we could hardly take the time to dissect the method/theory behind it.

            But I'm really interested in gathering more feedback on this season's rises. I've no idea if things have changed - there are guys out there who study it who can perhaps answer that. However, like I say, it would be good to get a sense of what the wider FFS community feel about it.

        2. J0E
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Once again I think you've misinterpreted what we said.

          I'm not "essentially advocating a kind of troll-journalism, whereby saying crazy stuff just to provoke a reaction is the same as reasoned comment".

          As a journalist of 20 years experience I have always proudly shunned the sort of tabloid troll journalism you refer to. I aim to shun it for the next 20 years too.

          What was discussed on the Scoutcast was four blokes giving their views on price changes - just as many have already done already this week. Some like the price changes, some don't. There are lots of different views - but that is a world away from the sort of troll journalism you are referring to.

          I'm going to be blunt, as I think you are the sort of chap that appreciates that, but your aggressive tone and slightly odd conspiracy theory regarding Mark has let you down a little here. You make a good point about the game element of price changes but it's in danger of getting lost in your other comments.

          1. Hands Guber
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Glad to see this kind of debate on my earlier hot topic cowboys. I'm touched.

            I don't think the Scouts have missed anything as they have clearly acknowledged that price changes always have, and continue to be, a feature of the game.

            Good positive debate is helpful, especially where Mark and FFS are even more closely associated with the official game than ever before. It means we all have a voice and that our game can be influenced by us the players-however small that will be.

            My issue is with the pace of the price changes this year, after playing for 9+ years it feels more punitive when you try and employ a little bit of patience. I accept that it's always been the case that to move early can be a blessing and a curse. And in my own experience I can say with some degree of confidence that player value has been rising much quicker than previous seasons, but there are over 4m playing too so I guess this is the state of the art right now so to speak.

            That's it from me cowboys.

            1. J0E
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              There's a lovely symmetry to you kicking the debate off early in the week and returning to it again after its been across two more hot topics and a Scoutcast. 🙂

              1. Hands Guber
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Enjoyed the chatter on the scoutcast.

                I think the crux-for me-is that no one likes to feel hogtied in terms of player recruitment. And this week I felt hogtied in that there simply didn't seem like any sense in resisting Alexis.

                As a result of this, I've resisted and I'm now Arseless for three weeks. It does help that like you I was adrift in an ocean of millionaires for the past few weeks. Up to 600k after a 20 point hit 3 weeks ago (Kane(C)) and I'm enjoying the game again,much like yourself.

                1. To Mee To You
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  Really enjoying reading this discussion from ALL of you, mods, et al! Thanks for raising it Burton and thanks for your intelligent responses mods! This is why I love the site! I raised the question on the Scoutcast, re: making early transfers and have so far saved 0.5m by selling Aguero and also buying Sanchez last Saturday night! Personally I enjoying the guesswork of the price changes but 'each to their own', as they say!

          2. Burton
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            "I'm going to be blunt, as I think you are the sort of chap that appreciates that, but your aggressive tone and slightly odd conspiracy theory regarding Mark has let you down a little here"

            Didn't mean to sound aggressive (just can't see what you're referencing) and meant no insult, but am happy to apologise in any case - Sorry to Jonty & anyone else I've managed to offend.

            Mark has a deeper relationship with the FPL administrators than your average player, and *stated* in the video he'd lobby for the introduction of a system which would spoil the game (imo), and which has comically obvious flaws (as multiple posters point out).

            No conspiracy theory, just trying to fathom a fairly bizarre outburst from a group ordinarily characterised by an absence of horse-frightening.

            (thumbs-up)

          3. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            It was interesting to hear Mark's comment about lobbying.

            I don't think he meant for it to get magnified but it does seem to me that part of the urgency of this discussion stems from a perception that Mark (and therefore the scoutcast, arguably the image/video-face of the site) has influence over next years changes.

            I expect that some of the aggressive or conspiracy talk following the Scoutcast comes from hearing the Scoutcasters' early ideas about changes for next year, which may or may not have been entirely thought through, and hearing them as finished thoughts. A large part of the reaction seems, to me, to be 'let's not be hasty, let's see how the season goes overall' and I think that's good.

            I'm a huge fan of the Scoutcast but my slight miffed with it is that there's more talk about what's wrong with the game than there maybe needs to be. While the season is on I don't want to hear too much about why it isn't the best it could be, I want to play and enjoy and try to win.

            Last thing! Great job from those making hot topics for including these. It shows that discussion really is the goal here and no one is afraid to have their view challenged. Long live FFS!

      3. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I think you guys were right to highlight this "broken" element of the game.

        The rewards for early risk taking (transfers) vastly outweighs the rewards for waiting for team info on a friday or waiting to see if a player comes through midweek games unscathed now. In the past people didn't suffer anywhere near as much by waiting to see if an injury is confirmed to be serious or not, now if you don't sell on the whiff of an injury you are exposed to the loss 0.3 of value.

        This is supposed to be a football based strategy game where we bring in players who we think are going to do well over given periods but with the price change mechanism currently in play it is a case of make your move Saturday night or be left behind team value wise. Personally I like strategy games and if we were able to digest the weeks events, training ground injuries to direct opponents of players etc and transfer someone in who has a favourable match up due to said injury I think I would enjoy the game a lot more.

        I have had a bug bear with the price rises for a number of years now though as if you have well owned players who have appreciated by a lot it is almost impossible to sell them in the second half of the season as you lose so much value trying to bring them back in. This LEADS to TEMPLATE squads which I find extremely boring and unless I am fighting back from a low rank I completely lose interest in the second half of the season even when I'm doing well. All we end up doing is swapping around a few of the fillers in the squad for other fillers but not really being able to do anything to gain rank unless we are willing to gamble and drop that high ownership, high value player.

        Play fantasy stock trading if all you are interested in is gambling on price changes.

        1. Rasping Drive
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Isn't making an early transfer to take advantage of the price rises a strategy in itself? And those that take the risk reap the reward or get punished as a result. Usually rewarded, or at least that has been my experience.

          Regarding the system leading to template teams in the second half of the season; it can do if you are not prepared to take the risk of selling someone in whom you have a lot of cash invested that is not performing. And let's face it, if you want to buy that player back, it will normally only cost you 4 points, so no big deal.

          I think one of the reasons people don't want to sell such players is that they can become obsessed with having a high TV for the sake of having a high TV. But really it's there to be used. There's no point having one if you don't make use of it.

          Overall, I think the stock market aspect is one of the things that makes FPL more enjoyable than the other fantasy games. I hope they don't mess with it too much.

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Yes it is a strategy but it is based on building team value or an economic strategy, it has nothing to do with football strategy or getting maximum points in any given gw. We are all forced into doing this "strategy" due to the price change mechanism currently in effect.

            I don't mind a price change element and I see the merits in giving people who get on the band wagon first and advantage over those jonny come lately's but to my mind it has completely taken over the game in the last 3 to 4 years (probably to do with the growth of numbers playing the game).

            I hear you re selling a big player second half of the season but say chelsea have 5 or 6 tough fixtures and you have 2m tied up in hazard, you are not going to sell and buy back for 1m more after 6 gws. While this example may not be perfect it does highlight why teams tend to be a lot more template in the second half of the season.

            1. Rasping Drive
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I have to admit that last Saturday, I was out with my wife getting drunk (as one normally does on a Saturday night) and in no fit state to make any trades when I got back home.

              I took a look at Aguero's situation befor I went out and saw he was about 72% towards rising. Now, with a red flag in place, I thought there's no way he's going to drop. But drop he did. So the 4 trades I had in mind cost me 0.4 more than they would have done had I not waited.

              That annoyed me a bit, but I took at as a lesson learned. I respect you, Dino, and it's nice to see an old face on here, but I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this issue 🙂

              1. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Yeah likewise Rasping, no harm having different opinions and I like to hear other people's point of view as we can all be a little myopic in our own little worlds.

                I must say it is annoying when you spot a bargain and bring him in only for everyone else to be able to buy a few weeks later for almost the same price. I'm not totally against price rises but I do think they play too much of a part in the game these days compared to years ago.

        2. Burton
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          There are plenty of games that are like the one you propose, why not play one of them instead*? I enjoy this game because of its intersection of football and 'stock trading'.

          (* I kid- though this might seem strange, I always look for your team on GW1 and bookmark it. Nothing worse than an echo chamber, and I enjoy your almost pathological drive to challenge orthodoxy ;-))

          HH

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah I know you are not serious but I really think the main reason for the success of this game over others is the ease of understanding with the scoring mechanism. I doubt the popularity with the casuals is down to the price changes as it probably infuriates them more than anything.

            Can you imagine what way you would feel after seeing coutinho getting injured at the weekend and logging on some wednesday lunchtime only to see he had dropped 0.3 or even worse forgetting to log on for a weekend and seeing he had dropped 0.6?

            Ps I usually keep an eye out for your team in the CQN mini league also.

            HH

            1. Hungry Singh
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Don't think prise rise issue is huge.

              Highest value rise is 0.7, and that's over 14 weeks, (with the exception of Costa).

              If you're going to play the long game to buy and sell, and benefit from each specific rise, then you probably deserve the resulting value, no?

              1. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Drops are more extreme I'd say alright but rises are definitely quicker too.

                The only reason more players haven't risen by more is people are swapping between big hitters more this season but the aggregate rise has been more than previous years I'd wager?

        3. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          your point is fundamentally flawed. it's only impossible to sell players if they are still performing well, so you would want them back. Mahrez, Kane, Alli etc were all template last year because they were obviously the best picks in the game.

          this year, capoue/allen/gundogan are all examples of rapid price rises that very quickly proved dispensible.

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Well yes that is kind of my point. These players like kane Mahrez alli vardy last year were all performing and very template so the game just became boring. There was no point taking them out for a run of unfavorable fixtures as you knew you would want them again and the financial cost of swapping them out was too big.

            This year it is likely to be the same as it is every year just with different players.

            1. Baines on Toast...
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              that's not a flaw with prices though, it's just the game is less fun when the same players score every week. much less likely this year given the patterns we've seen already.

              1. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                I think it is a flaw with the prices though as if players rise too much they end up locked in people's squads. I bet anyone who has costa since the start will not sell him for a poor run of fixtures even if he doesn't score. I don't think price rises were designed to make template teams where the majority of the top players end up with 5 or 6 the same players in their team as has happened the last few years?

    11. Pep says
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Maybe max rise/fall Monday night of .1. Max fall/rise Wednesday night .1 and Max rise/fall Friday night point .1. That spreads it out and is fair reward for patience vs. risk

      1. Misery Loves Kompany
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I quite like this... or even simpler would be no consecutive day rises or falls, stagger it out a bit.

        +/- 0.3 swings in 3 days is a bit extreme, and has been seen this season!

    12. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Just sounds like those that want to wait for injury news want to stop the alternative way of playing.

      It's fine as it is...you make your choice of how you wish to play the game.

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        The problem is there is no choice now Dr. You are forced to make blind decisions and hope for the best, this is not strategy it is luck.

        1. Diva
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          If that has come to pass it is because enough managers now believe that the "build team value" strategy is more effective than the "wait for team news" strategy. We'll find out which is more effective at the end of the season.

          Who knows, the shift in strategy may create new opportunities for differentiation by the most nimble managers. I'd be more impressed by a manager who figures out a way to take advantage of this situation than one who wants to lobby for the game to be changed to fit their old strategy because they don't want to adapt.

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            But it's not an old strategy it is the essence of fantasy football. We are here to play a strategy game based on picking players that will score well through their on field contributions not take blind bets on who might be available in our squads a week after we make our transfers.

            1. Diva
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              There's a risk to moving early and there's a risk to waiting. It's a balancing act, why should this that are comfortable taking the early risk have the game changed against them to suit those who aren't? Being priced out of moves is nothing new, you're just noticing it this year because there is no obvious Mahrezesque budget option and many of the premium player are firing. The skillful managers will find interesting alternatives and differentials if they are priced out of simple route to the popular move. They may even do well out of it!

              1. Diva
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                And Austin has just illustrated the risk of moving early. No need to change the rules.

        2. Amateur Pundit Zan
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Ville Ronka disagrees. Not seen him rush a transfer yet, while those around him are losing their heads.

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Even he has had to resort to early transfers this season. He had one done since early this week 😉

      2. fiveyears
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Exactly. Some benefit from early transfers, plenty of times where midweek injuries etc. cost the same people points hits.

    13. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      This is one of the best discussions I've seen on here. So many geeks, so little time.

      Certainly never took anything away beyond opinions. Mine is I love the price changes and welcome more the merrier this year. I think it makes it harder than ever to have identical squads and that's what I'm all about. I actually think this site has often been to the detriment of the overall game given how popular it's got, with more people than ever having ffs "template" teams.

      That's not a criticism of the site, just a side effect of its success. Likewise rapid, multiple price changes this year.

      I was highly critical of the chips last season as I felt they rewarded luck too much, but I don't see that with the changes. Long may they continue.

    14. XabiAlonso
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Here is my favoured method.
      No transfers allowed at all until the last game of the gw is over. Price rises can then continue as normal but less days for it to happen. Everyone gets a chance to see all the games and maybe here news on injuries etc.

    15. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      One thing I have noticed but is rarely remarked on is that some of the players who finish in the top ten quite often have fairly modest TVs, well below the high TVs that others strive for.

      There are many different ways to play this game successfully - early or late transfers, chasing TV or waiting for injury news, playing safe or taking risks, templates or differentials, and so on. I like it as it is and think it is well balanced, including the price changes.

      I hope that Mark will not be lobbying for any changes that do not have the support of our community.

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        These teams will likely have got on the seasons key players early and stuck with them through their good form. As can be seen by dead teams doing well some low value teams can get lucky too.

        I do think value is overrated to some extent but you have to admit having a bigger budget must give you some advantage.

        1. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          It is certainly important to start off with a strong squad, and those who have got onto the season's key players early will have seen their values increase automatically. But in most seasons it is also necessary and desirable to move players into or out of the squad at the right times according to form, fixtures, injuries and so on without worrying too much about losing value by selling players who have increased in value since they were purchased.

          Successful teams with lower TVs are often ones that have avoided injuries and hits, but missed price rises, by waiting till Friday or Saturday before making their transfers. These transfers will have been made with the object of scoring points, and they will have avoided the temptation to jump on every bandwagon just to increase their TV. They rely on points rather than pounds.

          I agree that a bigger budget does make it easier to afford a greater number of expensive players, but the most expensive players are not always the biggest points scorers. And the highest TVs are often acquired by sacrificing points along the way. It may or may not be possible to recoup them later. As you say, value cannot be completely ignored, but it is somewhat overrated by many. There is probably a good compromise somewhere between either going all out for a high TV with early transfers, hits and jumping on bandwagons or playing safe and never making an early transfer, taking a hit or jumping on a bandwagon.

      2. Chenku╰☆╮
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        This. With FFS's new standing relationship with fpl these ideas are dangerous and will wreck the game if you don't include wider community..

    16. Kudo Warrior
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Well said. I couldn't agree more -it'd make it far too easy for people.

    17. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      This year we've had tons of failed bandwagons already - and if you followed them for price alone, with no regard for points, you've been getting burnt. Which is how it should be.

      The idea that everyone should be able to wait until Friday night would make the game far duller. Right now the game is alive even on days when there's no games approaching, because there's a market at work all the time. Take that away and you lose a lot of what makes it great.

      In fact, take the price market away and you go the opposite direction of most fantasy games, which are moving more towards having an element of daily interest rather than fire and forget each week. I'd much rather maintain the purity of the point scoring and have the price fluctuations be the thing that keep people logging on on a cold tuesday afternoon.

    18. buffrey
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I don't get this. Well I do and agree.

      What I don't get is why it's been discussed so much. If the price rises have changed we must change either doing them early or late. If suddenly price changes were on Friday only, using an example on here, against we'd. We'd to adjust strategy and do them after he press conferences.

      You can't complain about something that's in your control.

      Risk/reward bit like selecting ihenacho he might not start but if he does you've got Man City's main striker.

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Yes but do you not agree this is a football strategy game?

        This season (and the last few years) we are being forced into making strategic moves without any football relayed information and hoping the team news is good on Friday.

        We are making our strategic moves based on price rather than football reasons now which is just wrong imo. Take hazard for example, people brought him in driving up the price even though his fixtures were not good. This is not football based strategy imo

        1. tm245
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          But was his form good? Is that not a part of the strategy as well?

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Of course his form was good but I know I for one would not have bought him for a couple of weeks of I was certain he wasn't going to rise by 0.6 by the time I wanted him. That is not football strategy it is bering forced into a move early for monetary reasons. This is the crux of the problem imo, the game is more about watching value now than football strategy.

            1. tm245
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              I do not understand why following form is not following football. Especially with the premiums this year, many are guessing that they are fixtureproof - they are the best players on the pitch to the eye and in the FPL points column. Surely that is following the football itself.

              Form drives interest, interest drives purchases, purchases drive prices -- they are inextricably linked. This is not the first season that bandwagons have overheated, so I am just surprised at how anecdotally flippant many veteran players are being without much evidence to back up their claims.

              1. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                But we used to have a choice between the two strategies. Due to the volatility this year I don't think we do anymore and I think when you see vets like mark and myself forced into playing the price gamble then the balance is skewed too far from the fundamentals of the game.

                A few years ago when price changes were more graduated people did have a choice and careful strategists who showed patience tended to prosper more than hit mad, early transferring value players.

                Personally I think the balance was better when it favored the more football strategic players.

                1. buffrey
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 4 months ago

                  You can still do that though and it may still be of benefit. As the season has not reached the end game everyone is saying the TV is important but it might not be. So you can still play the same waiting game.

                  It's only your own rationale that's making you now move early. Keep strong with your old thoughts and then no problems.

                  Need to get Peter Blake on this to find out all the price rises and drops and de how extreme it really has been.

                  1. Dino
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    7 years, 4 months ago

                    We really can't play the patience game anymore, if we could I and most of the others who used to play that way would.

                    It has happened over the last number of years where the option of choosing has been eroded to where we are left today which is with no choice. It is this absence of choice that is causing the mechanism to be called into question imo.

                    1. buffrey
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 4 months ago

                      To say you don't have a choice isn't true. You do. The house you've made is that the potential cost rise/fall will impact you adversely but there's actually no proof of this until later in the season.

                      There have only been a few triple drops in a single week recently and for good cause. Multiple weeks out injured and price recalibration (hazard went back quickly to starting price). If there were double/treble rises on players who didn't have a major reason I think the point would be more valid but there aren't.

                      1. Dino
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Of course you have a choice but no serious player leaves their changes until friday nights/sat morning anymore when the majority used to when price changes were not so volatile. You're kidding yourself on if you think there is really a choice anymore and this is the main problem for me. The balance between having to make moves for value reasons or football reasons has skewed far to much to the value side imo.

                      2. buffrey
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        The last 2 weeks were the only times this season I've gone early. Yes due to price moves, but I still considered it and decided the 0.3/4 I'd lose on the 2 players wasn't worth it.

                        I decided that in isolation of previous when I left the odd rise go. I realise that example proves your point but I guess what I'm saying is that it's part of the game and shouldn't be complained about. Mega events cause mega price fluctuations. That's sort of how it should be. If someone scores 5 goals In a game and you had him you'd also want to be rewarded for the hot property that that player is not just a single point rise.

                      3. Dino
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        Yes I agree with you on mega events but players are rising or falling so fast early in the week in general run of the mill play this season that our hands are constantly being forced imo.

                        There was nothing wrong with it a few years back and with the premium scoring cheap players the last few seasons value was never an issue.

                        It is only because there are so many premium options scoring well that it matters this year.

                      4. buffrey
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 4 months ago

                        I don't think there has. Emre Can scored well in the recent history, has only risen once this week, it is just the big names.

                        Arguably if you look at it like that maybe they should give us 120m to start so we can all choose the players we want. Obviously that would be ridiculous but the crux of the matter is that due to rules we can't afford the players we want. Well I see it as part of the game.

                        (By the way I don't mean to sound condescending and am enjoying the discussion, so apologies if I do, it's not intended.

        2. buffrey
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I do get the point, I really do, but it has and will be part of the game. Because people are going mental in buying means you need to identify that. I don't think the price rises have changed much at all, just the demand has risen.

          It's one strategy for another really and we can't choose all the elements of the game we get what we've been given.

          You don't play monopoly but with the caveat you can't go to jail. It's just a rule you need to negotiate in the best way you see fit. Be it early moves or not.

          The fact you know football you know that a transfer target may be playing in midweek. With that extra knowledge you can decide the path to go. Buy now or wait.

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Reply fail above sorry

    19. Rolls-Royce
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Completely agree. Its best as it is. Although the price changes are bit volatile this year.

    20. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Beautiful, Alan Partridge has nothing on this site! We certainly live in the first world. My gaming strategy is to copy Triggerlips transfers before he makes them.

    21. tm245
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Couldn't agree more with the OP, well said.

    22. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Excellant post but as I'm working late I'll need to come back to this later to soak up all the replies.

    23. Chenku╰☆╮
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      The scouts usually have a poor TV compared to the ffs mass as they are risk averse. No wonder they want to change the rules to suit them.

    24. DeadStarComing
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Great discussion! Just like to throw my thoughts in. I think price changes are one of the few "expert" things in this game, a bit like double game week planning. Most casual players don't really know how or when the player prices even change. They certainly won't be checking on here at 1am to see if someone's about to rise.

      With how mainstream this game is becoming its only a matter of time before they just show you on the Fpl site who is about to rise or drop.

      I think my only change would be to lock prices during the game week.

      1. DeadStarComing
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I forgot to have my dig - they could just flag more and more players injured to slow price changes 🙂

        1. Burton
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          This made me laugh.

    25. FPLzebub
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      If FPL took out the price change element of the game or introduced accumulated transfer price changes i'd probably lose interest and stop playing the game.

      The risk/reward balance between early and late transfers is very good at the moment. I often find myself having to choose the timing. This adds to the skill element of the game and favours the better fantasy managers. It seems bizarre to me that the Scoutcast team seemed to favour dumbing the game down.

    26. John t penguin
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Have always wondered how much there actually is in the 'players injured mid week' worry. Has anyone ever done any research into how often it happens to bandwagons or even mini bandwagons?
      Everyone can always remember the one or two big occasions, aguero after Newcastle for example, but does it really happen so much?
      No doubt we have all had one memorable occasion and the longer you play the more likely it is to happen but in my own experience they are few and far between.
      Of course Costa will be out for weekend now

      1. John t penguin
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Did Austin actually get injured as I was typing this? 🙂

        1. Hurricane Gilbert
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          You are a legend

        2. Rover
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah... So ironic that this happens right in the gameweek with all the discussion on price changes. How many managers would have done Aguero + Cheap mid > Sanchez + Austin for a hit only to see Austin taken off like that?

      2. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I don't think it is that big a thing but from a strategy point of view I think most serious ff managers would like to see how their squad is looking after team news on a Friday before making their transfers. Having to make them early just add another huge element of luck into the equation imo.

        Anyone that thinks patience has an equal or better chance as value gambling is fooling themselves imo. That said it is only this year we are really seeing the effects due to the amount of heavy hitters performing. It is probably 7 or 8 years since we have had this many big guns performing.

      3. Bojan Horsemack
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Relatively small sample, but for two seasons I was making early transfers more often that not, and didn't have a single injury come up to a newly bought player. Even if you get one or two over a season, the couple of mil in extra value obviously more than warrants it.

        Of course another factor is the extra information you have later in the week, which may affect who you choose to buy.

        Another general note: Ville Ronka doesn't take hits and makes most of his transfers late. And he's probably the most successful FPL player there is. Which flies in the face of the argument that price-rises are ruining the game.

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Have you proof he makes his moves late this season? He's made an early transfer this week.

          1. Bojan Horsemack
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            This week yeah. Normally he waits until late in the week though. Like everyone else he probably noticed this was one of the weeks where prices were going mental.

    27. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      So much passion on this subject. I was also horrified at Mark's suggestion he would lobby for those discussed change (I am sure he and FFS wouldn't actually do this without properly thinking it through and engaging the community).

      I fully support the price/info trade off part of this game, that and hits are the only thing that separate and stand it above the other versions of the game.

      I also agree the algorithm has been too sensitive this year and a bit too dependent on the players starting price.

      Keep the framework, dial back the sensitivity.

      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Price changes have never been constant season after season. Nothing more than a minor tweak could be all thats needed, perhaps to slow it down just a little bit. Nothing too extreme.

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yes I think this is probably the most sensible solution. Change the algorithm so that changes only occur at most every couple of days like it used to be.

    28. Sir Edo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      For the first time ever I did'nt agree with Soutcast panel. You got it all wrong when it came to price rices etc.
      Cetrtain dates for price rices, announced price rises, only 0,1 price rices.
      Might be the most boring improvement ever.. 😉

      Fast price rices/fall makes the game more dynamic and will make sure all teams will not look the same.

      Andy's Allstars is right!
      It's all about selling value, not Team Value!

      Look at Team Value comparision below.
      Basically no difference between high and low Team Value when it comes to dubble gameweeks and Wildcard.

      Example of a skilled manager hunting price rices:
      Price rice:
      Costa +1,3
      Sanchez +0,9
      Hazard +1,1
      Defoe +0,9
      Konchielny +0,5
      McAuley +0,4
      Holebas +0,3
      Heaton +0,3

      Total price rice: 5,5
      Team value 105.5
      Profit when selling; +2,4 -> 102,4 to spend on wildcard

      Example of price rice for calm managers waiting for friday pressers:

      Costa +0,2
      Sanchez +0,4
      Hazard +0,3
      Defoe +0,4
      Konchielny +0,4
      McAuley +0,2
      Holebas +0,2
      Heaton +0,1

      Total price rice: 2,2
      Team Value 102,2
      Profit when selling; +1,0 -> 101,0 to spend on wildcard

      Concratulations all Team Value hunters!
      You can go for Mane/Erikssen/Walker instead of Firminho/Alli/Rose!
      Whats the difference?

      Conclusion: Price rice hunters will gain Team Value but will miss out on some points due to midweek injuries and suspensions..

      Team Value vs Points. I'will always go for points! 😉

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        You have a fantastic history, well done. I've just bookmarked your team so I can see how you do with lower value in the second half of this season. I used to play like you but have felt myself slipping more and more to the dark side of value chasing this year in particular.

        1. Sir Edo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Don't give after for the Dark side, Dino.

          But thanks.. Finally someone is listening to my opinions.. Big boost, thanks to you, going in to this gameweek!

          Buy the right players and Team Value will mind their own business.. 😉

      2. Konig Luther
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Amazing seasons.

    29. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Finally got a chance to write a proper reply when I'm not just on my phone.

      So first of all I'll say I'd love some information as to whether the prices are rising and falling quicker than normal or whether it's just more noticeable because there's more choice.

      Even if it's just a case that there's more players, or there's more engaged/active players at this point in the season than there normally is I do think the algorithm should at least be looked at.

      I don't like the argument that "go early or deal with it" because right now it feels like we're being forced into moves. I won't take Sanchez into account because a player who scores 23 points in a single game week is always likely to see a triple rise but take Coutinho who dropped 0.3 in 3 days - that seems a little fast.

      I think there's wiggle room with the algoritihm and price change mechanics to give the best of both worlds where those that want to transfer early can make some money and those that want to wait aren't punished too heavily. Rather than make a player rise or fall 0.1 in consecutive days, why not make it so they do it over 5-6 days. That then gives you the chance to make some money or wait and see.

      The way it is right now it definitely seems like it's go early or lose out. That's fine and we have to adapt but I don't think that means we can't question whether it's right or not and discuss it as and when.

      As for the Scoutcast ideas - I don't particularly like the save up the rises and falls for Friday and then do it all at once. Then there would be no strategy for going early and it wouldn't really work because no-one would make a transfer so how do you know how much he should go up or down by?

      And then only going up 0.1 max a week doesn't work with the way FPL is right now in my opinion because of the way transfers works. I think that works in a game where there's limited transfers but in FPL it would almost never be a reason to make a transfer unless absolutely necessary.

      In summary - I don't think there's a need for a massive overhaul but I don't see the harm in FPL looking into active players and whether something major has changed and make a tweak as necessary. I don't want price changes to be brought to a standstill but if they were slowed a little I think we could get the best of both worlds for how people want to play the game.

      1. Sir Edo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Hi Andy!
        You said it yourself, "It's not about Team Value, it's about selleing value.."

        See my post just above when it comes to Team Value in double Gameweeks and Wildcard.

        It's all about hunting Points, not Team Value.

        Now see mr. Torres Magic, great manager and always fast with transfers.
        This week already 3 transfers made but he probably missed out on Austin injury?
        Might loose some points due to early transfers.. 😉

    30. French Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Probably the Best Hot Topic of the season

      1. Az
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        agreed!

    31. Az
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      This is an amazing discussion! Really shows off the passion of the community.
      Nice to know my debut didn't cause much controversy 😉

      Price changes are a funny one, and someone mentioned yesterday about how they had bought Austin in knowing the risks and there is a trade-off between catching price rises (Early transfers) and making less-risky transfers (saturday morning transfers) and they enjoyed this element of the game. I hadn't considered that.

      I liked the idea of the end of week price rises because it would give some transparency as to when the price rises would occur (which I mentioned on the Scoutcast). This is my biggest problem with the current system and reliance on third party sites shouldnt really be the way FPL runs in my view. Even if there was a way of tracking price rises on the official site, and a percentage chance of this occuring (siilar to fplstatistics) I'd be happy. After reading the comments on here, I can see why the end of week price rise wouldn't appeal, but hadn't considered this point on the Cast.

      1. Legomane
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Quite like the transfer market at present - secrecy included.

        The only tweak I'd like to see would be no price changes during a game week - let the dust settle.

        It won't happen though, because the current make up surely maximises FPL website hits (no pun intended) over the weekend.

    32. Spreadsheet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Completely agree. I love the increased sensitivities of prices this season. I don't remember the last time there was so many different players in the teams across my mini-league. I think the balance between risking early transfers and increasing prices is great right now. I've always been happy at the start of the season to take risks to build value by getting on the 'right' bandwagons, and steadily decreasing the level of risk (by waiting until press conferences before making moves).

    33. Shultan
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      It's the speed of the price changes that I have a problem with this year. I've played fantasy since 2008 & I don't remember a season like this where there's 0.3/0.4 swings in so little time.

      Fantasy football should be about making transfers using football knowledge as well as luck. After the crystal palace match I bought siggy only because I wouldn't be able to afford him after they played chelsea. Transfers should be about who you think will do well in the week not dictated by price!

      I definitely think transfers should stop once the GW deadline has passed & start once the last match has finished. I think that's something most people will agree on at least. Most people must hate transferring out a player when they havn't even played due to price changes.

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Well said. These would be my sentiments too

  7. Klopp For The Kopps 😆
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Can do any 1 this week :
    A) Fuchs to Alonso
    B) Ozil to Sanchez
    Will anyways do the other next week.

    1. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'd do both, even for a -4

    2. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Take the hit man!

    3. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      +1 for -4

      1. Speédy
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Me on -4 too

    4. Klopp For The Kopps 😆
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I have already used FT for Aguero to Kane
      Don't want to take -8 hit

      1. reddragons178
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        -8.

    5. JTEXTREME
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      take the hit

    6. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      A

      1. Hands Guber
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Glad to see this kind of debate on my earlier hot topic cowboys. I'm touched.

        I don't think the Scouts have missed anything as they have clearly acknowledged that price changes always have, and continue to be, a feature of the game.

        Good positive debate is helpful, especially where Mark and FFS are even more closely associated with the official game than ever before. It means we all have a voice and that our game can be influenced by us the players-however small that will be.

        My issue is with the pace of the price changes this year, after playing for 9+ years it feels more punitive when you try and employ a little bit of patience. I accept that it's always been the case that to move early can be a blessing and a curse. And in my own experience I can say with some degree of confidence that player value has been rising much quicker than previous seasons, but there are over 4m playing too so I guess this is the state of the art right now so to speak.

        That's it from me cowboys.

        1. Hands Guber
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          MASSIVE reply fail

  8. Kun Tozser
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Members RMT advising me to play Amat and bench Kane

    Play Amat over Mee
    Bench Kane over Moses

    I'm thinking the reverse

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I agree with you

    2. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Amat should be third on every bench

      1. Deano
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        +42

  9. Pirlø's Pen
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Has anyone seen Alexis's latest instagram post? What the hell is he doing.

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      What is it?

    2. Ha.
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Side plank

    3. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      being a kid

  10. JTEXTREME
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Pickford (Boruc)
    Holebas Mustafi McAuley (Amat) (Love)
    Walcott Siggy Sanchez Snoddy (Fletcher)
    Costa Kun Benteke

    Walcott, Snodgrass, Kun ---> Hazard, Mane, Defoe for -8 worth it? Feels right.

    1. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Probably just do Kun to Kane/Ibra. Then maybe Walcott to Hazard/Mane for a hit

      1. JTEXTREME
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks, I needed a voice of reason. 🙂

  11. Colonel Klink
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Will Wijnaldum play at least another game, or is he out of the XI?

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      If Lallana is 100% then I would imagine Wij will be benched

      1. Colonel Klink
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers. Lallana didn't replace Wij last match, but that's probably irrelevant.

    2. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      i'm sure he will play at least another game. He will probably be in and out until he impresses enough to cement his place again.

      1. Colonel Klink
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        The only person I can think he comes in at the expense of is Can.

        1. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          i know it's an unpopular opinion, but for me he's a better player than Lallana, even though Lallana has had a decent start to the season.

  12. Sjaugen
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    No Mane in the scout picks. It's A Sign 😀

  13. Arteta
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Burnley FC ‏@BurnleyOfficial
    Sean Dyche confirms at his broadcast press conference that @TomHeatonGK should be in contention for the weekend clash with @afcbournemouth.

    1. Bunk Moreland
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      "in contention"? "should"?

      Sigh...

      1. Sjaugen
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        He'll play

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      So he stays flagged and will drop tonight 😉

      1. Deano
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Unlikely to drop of course but the flagging issue is becoming a serious issue.

    3. Colonel Klink
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Please let him play. I don't want to unleash Chelsea at home on Foster.

  14. Pep says
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Will Watmore's absence affect Sunderland's (Defoe's) output?

    1. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      doubt it

    2. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Watmore been in good form and runs his heart out but shouldn't have a major impact and borini will be back within next couple weeks, which is an upgrade to watmore.

    3. Pete Campbell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      no, but Larsson will enhance his output

  15. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    heaton 'should be in contention'. this is trolling of the highest order https://twitter.com/BurnleyOfficial/status/806858147164024832

    1. BadgersBoys
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Great news!

    2. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Not trolling at all. He'll be fit.

  16. BadgersBoys
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    We really are spoilt for captain choice over the next 10 GWS and beyond. If you have the big hitters like Hazard, Costa, Sanchez and Kane for example, the next 10 looks like below. This isn't even taking Zlatan or City/Pool etc into the mix:

    WBA, STO, HUL, BUR, WBA, MID, HUL, BUR, WBA, STO...

    1. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      The last two weeks have proved that looking that far ahead is just silly

      1. BadgersBoys
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Ah yea, maybe so. Just playing around, mate.

  17. Sjaugen
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Hands up if you're annoyed that de Roon is still at 4.3 (4.4 buyer here)

  18. Deano
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Any takers for this one?

    Bench Anichebe or which one of these to play the big 'orse?

    Sanchez, Hazard, Firminho, Eriksen, Siggurdsen
    Ibra, Austin

    1. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Bench Anichebe

    2. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Bench anichibe and don't give it a second thought. Like seriously.

      1. Deano
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Stats are amazing mate!

        1. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          the only stat im interested in for him is his total career goals tally being the same as his age.

    3. George James
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      AOA

  19. fiveyears
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Alderweireld should start this weekend right?

    Want a Spurs defender for 16 onwards, but rotation/impending suspension issues make him the only feasible option.

    1. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      if he came through last night's game unscathed i imagine he will. I'd wait for the presser though to make sure his knee didn't react badly.

      1. fiveyears
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Here's hoping, will keep an eye out!

        1. fiveyears
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Definitely, will have to have 2 of Spurs/Ars/Che defence I think, unless Zouma comes back in.

    2. Hooky
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Should do. Almost scored with a header last night as well. Shame he's not half a million cheaper though.

      1. Sjaugen
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I've funds for Rose, but he'll be rotated when I want him the most going forward.
        Aldy otoh...

      2. fiveyears
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Oops, obviously meant the message above as a reply to you!

        1. Hooky
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah. Toby and Alonso would be great. Emre Can could be an enabler if he continues his form

  20. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Which is the best combination do you think?

    A) Phillips, Defoe
    B) Firmino, Anichebe

    1. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. BadgersBoys
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      A, just. That one is close call to me..

    3. Deano
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      B easily.

    4. Sailboats
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      b

    5. Lyonnais
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      B

    6. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks guys.

    7. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Defoe should be the priority pick in my eyes so A.

  21. Hooky
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Just listened to an interview with Keaton Jennings. English as they come that boy 😉

    1. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Ja bru!

  22. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Start Valencia (TOT) or Holebas (EVE)? I actually think Watford have the better chance of a CS but fairly equal in attacking potential?

    Ta 🙂

    1. BadgersBoys
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Holebas for me WR. Valencia has good attacking potential also, but Everton have been absolute pish of late..

    2. Deano
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Chol

    3. Lyonnais
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Cholevas

    4. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      valencia

    5. Parm
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Yep, I'd play Holebas.

    6. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers gents

  23. FCSB
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    I feel a big scoring weekend coming on... 100 pointers... whos with me?!

    1. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      The midfield this week is too good to be true (for loads on here I imagine) so a low scoring one on the cards is the reality 😀

  24. 32chickens
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Greg lake dies-Emerson lake and palmer,for older readers.
    Gone off to the Court of the Crimson King....

    1. alastair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Confusion will be my epitaph

    2. nailedonness
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Sad news 🙁

  25. liiusions
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Had the armband on Hazard all week but now I'm considering Firmino... If I had Mane no doubt in my mind he'd be my captain

    1. Deano
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      He was kak last week. If not for the fixture I'd be benching or transferring.

    2. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Liverpool bias surely?

      1. liiusions
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Maybe but we're still scoring and West Ham are dreadful

    3. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Seems like Firmino will be on the left again - whether its true that he's less effective from there I'm not sure but wouldn't take the risk. I would go Hazard over Firmino, but Mane over both

      1. liiusions
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I'm sure the stats last season said he scored better on the left

  26. Lyonnais
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    What to do with this team ?!

    Heaton / Pickford
    Koscielny, Walker, Holebas / Evans, Amat
    Hazard, Firmino, Sigurdsson, Allen / Capoue
    Kane, Costa, Austin

    Main problems:
    Koscielny can't keep CS
    No Chelsea def. (Alonso)
    Allen needs to go asap
    No Sanchez

    A) Firmino + Allen ---> Sanchez + Can (-8)
    B) Allen ---> Payet (-4) (I've a shocking season so maybe it's differential time...)

    1. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      How about Allen to Mane(c)?

      1. Lyonnais
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        0.1 too expensive.

  27. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    A Firmino blank and next week I'm bringing in Dimitri! Think he's going to explode in Dec! Either that or Austin>Big Andy :S

    There fixtures are just too good to ignore, you lot agree?

    1. Lyonnais
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm looking at Payet. He could be the next mid. everyone is trying to get in.

    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Same idea. FIrmino+Walcott->Payet+Erikssen/Ali

      1. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        trying to figure out how i will get payet in though

        im really not willing to sell firmino

    3. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Payet looks totally disinterested at the moment. I'd wait to see him put the effort in first.

      1. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        even so, hes still playing ok

      2. Deano
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Exactly

    4. Dino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'd wait to see a bit of form from wham in their new home. Things just don't look right there at the mo.

    5. davies
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Don't think he's worth 1.5-2.0 more than Antonio myself

  28. Shirokov(c)
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38238558

    Talented footballer and seems like a genuinely nice guy. All the best Harry.

    1. davies
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Seen Wilshere say he's one of the most talented players he's played with

      1. Shirokov(c)
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Been great for Bournemouth and Ireland whenever I've seen him play.

        1. davies
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          A talented British footballer - like Bale. 😉

          1. pompeyfan
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            British? Maybe by birth 😉

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Good player would have made the euros for Ireland only for injury.

      Heard him interviewed on radio before he seems to love playing football and has a real drive to improve.

  29. davies
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Do we usually have an idea of what the Liverpool team is before deadline?

    If so, when?

    1. liiusions
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Lallana in for Wij will be the only change

    2. liiusions
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      and Matip back in for Lucas of course

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I decided that Jonty spoke sense on the scoutcast. I am benching Walcott and playing Anichebe.

      I am ignoring price and going with player form v the standard of of opponents.

      If Walcott gets a hat-trick I want a public apology from Jonty 🙂

  30. I Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Start Shaqiri (ars) or Capoue (EVE)?

    1. Sadio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'd consider selling one of them for a hit.