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Great Expectations – Sadio Mane

After finding the net 11 times in each of his two seasons at Southampton, Sadio Mane was finally acquired by long-term suitor Jurgen Klopp last summer.

Snapped up by the Liverpool manager for around £36m, the Senegal international was quick to make an impact across the Fantasy games, netting in the season opener at Arsenal as the battle for our attentions in the Reds’ midfield intensified.

Limited to just 27 appearances due to Africa Cup of Nations duties and a season-ending knee injury, Mane only claimed thirteenth spot among FPL midfielders on 156 points, yet still finished as his side’s joint-top scorer along with Philippe Coutinho on 13 goals.

Expected to be fit for the start of the upcoming campaign, the former Saints’ cutting edge may well give him the advantage over his midfield team-mates as the Merseysiders’ likeliest source of attacking returns in 2017/18 – even in the light of the impending arrival of Mohamed Salah.

Key Factors

  • Unleashed from the right of Klopp’s three-man frontline, Mane flourished as a Fantasy option in a midfield that offered strong competition from the likes of Coutinho and Roberto Firmino. His average of 5.8 points per match was more than any team-mate and placed fifth among regular FPL midfielders. Bearing in mind that he served up 4.3 ppm and 4.6 ppm over his two years at St Mary’s, it’s clear that the move to Merseyside has benefitted Mane’s FPL appeal.
  • The Opta numbers also highlight Mane’s upturn at Anfield. An average of 172.3 minutes per goal was fifth quickest among FPL midfielders in the top-flight last term and bettered his tallies of 194.1 and 236.7 in those two seasons with the Saints. A goal conversion rate of 22.8% – second only to Bournemouth’s Josh King (23.9%) in midfield – is far superior to Coutinho (12.3%) and Firmino (11%) and indicates that, should the trio be similarly priced, a fit-again Mane has the platform outperform his team-mates. No Africa Cup of Nations tournament in 2018 also helps.
  • A reliable option for our five-man midfields, Mane never went more than two league matches without finding the net in 2016/17. Compare that with Coutinho and Firmino, whose most barren streaks were seven and six matches respectively, and it’s fair to say that, among Klopp’s main attackers, the Senegal international is far less likely to test the patience of Fantasy managers.
  • Mane was particularly prolific in front of his own supporters. Despite missing five of Liverpool’s 19 Anfield fixtures, his total of nine home goals was bettered only by Chelsea’s Eden Hazard (12) among FPL midfielders. Five of Mane’s seven double-digit hauls arrived at Anfield, highlighting his armband appeal as an explosive option among Klopp’s main men.
  • Klopp’s tactical tinkering could also influence our thinking. After a goalless draw against Southampton in Gameweek 36, the German rolled out a midfield diamond behind a front two, with Coutinho pulling the strings from deep. Although Liverpool are expected to mainly continue with a 4-3-3 next time out, Mane’s speed and goal-getting ability could persuade his manager to hand him a central role up top should be switch formations in order to break down obstinate opponents.
  • The opening schedule looks encouraging for those keen to invest in the Merseysiders. Klopp’s men travel to Watford for the season opener and then face three home matches – against Crystal Palace, Arsenal and Burnley – in the subsequent four Gameweeks. He scored in both appearances against the Gunners’ last term, serving up 13 points in a 3-1 win at Anfield in Gameweek 27.

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  1. Phil Dagger ⭐
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Mo Mane Mo Problems

  2. internal error
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    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Expecting at least 50 league goals combined from Coutinho, Mane, Firmino and Salah next season

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      *each

    2. Boris Bodega
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      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mbappe will score 50 on his own for Arsenal.

      1. internal error
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        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        *will score 50 own goals for Arsenal

    3. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Wij going to Score 55 alone 😉

      1. internal error
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        • 11 Years
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        realistically, he will only score 45, but make it up with 145 assists

  3. Navigating Liverpool's midfield minefield
    J0E
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    6 years, 9 months ago

    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    Navigating Liverpool's midfield minefield.

    Just when you thought selecting the best Liverpool midfielder couldn't get any tougher - they look to be signing Salah - to further confuse us.

    So with Mane, Firmino, Coutinho, Salah and to a lesser extent Lallana all competing for our attention which one or two do you have your eye on. Obviously price will come into it - but its probably safe to say Firmino, Mane and Coutinho will get a price hike.

    Or will you avoid them altogether and go for players in other teams that are more dominant points scorers? This was, after all a tactic, that was deployed very effectively by 16/17 FPL winner Ben Crabtree.

    1. FPL ZB
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      Surely Firmino will be classed as a striker this year. Played well over half of last season up top

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        No chance

    2. Boris Bodega
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      6 years, 9 months ago

      Don't forget the Ox, although I suspect he will stay at Arsenal.

    3. FPL ZB
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      Also forgetting the amount of points Wijnaldum hauled in at home last season

    4. Boris Bodega
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      6 years, 9 months ago

      I will most likely be going for either Coutinho or Mane, depending on price and the rest of my team.

    5. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I am looking to start the season with Mane,unless he is very highly priced. Coutinho will play a deeper role reducing his appeal to an extent,Firmino is very inconsistent, would like to see how Salah fits in before getting him in. Mane seems the best option currently. If Lallana somehow becomes nailed on,he could be a great option at a much lower price.

      1. internal error
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        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Coutinho looked more threatening in the games he played last season in midfield.

    6. Johqvist
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      As a Liverpool fan I'm a bit worried about Mané losing some speed coming back from an injury like this. Does anyone have experience or stats when it comes to the speed of players recovering from a somewhat long term injury?

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I used to be an Olympic sprinter until I got an injury like his, can't walk now.

        1. Johqvist
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I'm gonna choose to ignore that comment and hope for the best.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            😆 I don't blame you!

    7. Ceci
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mane, only if price is right.

    8. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Salah - Firmino - Mané
      - Coutinho - Wijnaldum/Lallana -
      --------------- Can ---------------

      I'd have thought this if all fully fit, with rotation from Sturridge, Henderson around CL matches.

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Henderson will start if he is fully fit imo

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Over Can? Yeah should do given he's captain.

          I can see Klopp varying it according to fixture, sometimes going with the legs of Henderson and Lallana with Coutinho up with Firmino and Mané, then at other times opting for the creativity of Wijnaldum and Coutinho deeper.

          1. Phil Dagger ⭐
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            yes imo and More matches should mean everyone will get chances. Its going to be interesting to see how Klopp.manage them

    9. Qubit
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mane i suspect might be too expensive for the returns on offer. Firmino doesnt currently offer enough and definitely not as a striker, unless his output increased a fair bit. Coutinho probably interests me the most.

    10. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho or Mane for me, probably Mane, who is, just about, their main attacking threat. They really floundered without him.

    11. Baines on Toast...
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      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Has to be Coutinho if fit based on the end of his season.

      I owned Mane for months and his lack of BPS is infurating.

      I think Firmino should be a striker unless Liverpool sign one.

    12. asquishypotato
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      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mane if the price is right, Coutinho if not, but with United, Spurs and City having better fixtures I'd be tempted to avoid and go for others instead

    13. Kryten
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      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      As a Liverpool fan I will maybe stay clear untill I know more about impact of European football and subsequent rotation. I will get Coutinho, mane and salah in when they hit major form.

      Lallana- without set piece potential I wouldn't get unless under 8m

      Firmino - avoid can troll consistent football player but not consistent fpl asset or point scorer

      Coutinho- if he is 10m I would not get unless he takes free kicks and we score more from his corners. Needs to get a assist every over game to justify.

      Salah - unknown were he fits in maybe get if he hits form. If he plays left we need a good lb to support his attacks

      Mane- wait to see affect of salah and how he recovers from injury

      All in my humble opinion

    14. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Salah has played well for Roma, but Serie A isn't the Premier League and his 6 appearances for Chelsea weren't all that impressive. Maybe, it was Mourinho holding him back at Stamford Bridge.

      I attempted to avoid Liverpool all last year, but got sucked in on Coutinho for GW13 and he got injured. Mane would be first choice if I were to decide to start a L'pool player this year.

  4. Phil Dagger ⭐
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Wij going to Score 55 alone 😉

  5. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Firmino is the best option imo

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'm thinking this too even if he's in a false 9 role

  6. Parm
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    On the potential Abraham signing, do you think Clement is changing his attack to suit a potential Sigurdsson departure?

    The Sigurdsson-Llorente combo was lethal from open play with Llorente's heading ability but Abraham is a more well-rounded, physical striker compared to Llorente who is now 32 years old and probably the last summer where he has value.

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Why all this Tammy Abraham hype? Yes he has scored goals for Bristol City last season but he ain't cut for PL football imo atleast for now. PL is a different beast altogether.

    2. Mark
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      6 years, 9 months ago

      Could be. I certainly don't see Abraham starting over a fit Llorente so I'm a little confused by this.

      Two up top helped last season but will it be Abraham and Llorente as a pairing?

      Surely Abraham hasn't agreed to the move without assurance of regular starts?

      Lots of questions. Sigurdsson's possible departure might explain it. That would be a hammer blow, though, I can't see them fighting off relegation without him.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Llorente dragged off after 65 mins after only completing 9 sprints, then Abraham on against tired legs as a plan B, maybe.

    3. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I wonder how much he'd cost. 5.5m?

    4. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Borja will leave and Abrahams will fill the gap, he is free and cheap and scores goals so will be one of the back up options to Llorente or competition with Ayew.

      This is nothing to do with Gylfi, who says he wants to stay, whom the owners have said the do not want to sell, whom the Chairman has said they have not be contacted by any club for ... any reports about Gylfi is just paper talk regurgitating old articles

  7. Overrated players
    FPL ZB
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    6 years, 9 months ago

    Good discussion, which footballers in the Prem do you think are overrated?
    And by overrated, I mean actually rated in the first place, for reasons that are unknown, not people everyone agrees are a bit dodgy like Wilshere and Stones.

    I'll start the ball rolling with Clyne (very few assists or goal threat, concedes a lot), and Matip.

    Honorable mention also to Bellerin

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Clyne ain't rated that much to be considerd as an overrated player and tbh he has been a pretty good buy and player for us since he has signed. Pretty Consistent.

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Barkley is the perfect epitome of a Overrated Footballer imo.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          This.

    2. GreenWindmill
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      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kolarov

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Ban.

    3. Ceci
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Pogba, Herrera positions himself way better offensively
      & defensively then Pogba who keeps forgetting he is a CM.

    4. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Off the top of my head:

      Bellerin, Koscielny, Dier, Lallana, Henderson, Pogba, Rashford, Hart, Barkley.

      That doesn't mean any of these players are rubbish - in my opinion, they're just not as good as they're made out to be.

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        If Someone asks what is Overrated, Just say Eric Dier. He will understand it imo. He is good for Spurs but I think if he goes to any other team we will see he is really a shoite footballer. He is a Chameleon in this spurs side

      2. FPL ZB
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        Think I agree with all of those. Mustafi is much worse than Koscielny though I reckon. I'd also like to add David Silva. Man City fans say he's one of the best in the league, yet when he was out they seemed to replace him very easily

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          David Silva lol. Just because Citeh have the depth to replace him (or change the way they play to accommodate not having him in the side), doesn't make him overrated.

          1. FPL ZB
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            If they can play as well with him as they can without him, then he isn't the best player in the league as I see many of their fans claiming

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              You don't get football if you don't get David Silva.

            2. Forza
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              • 9 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              We always miss him when he's out. When he's not playing, the way City use the ball is noticeably different and something feels missing.

        2. makaveli123
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          6 years, 9 months ago

          Silva? 😆

          1. FPL ZB
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            Only overrated in terms of how highly I see him regarded. Still an excellent footballer.

            1. *Reformed-Character*
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              6 years, 9 months ago

              You've had an absolute shocker with bellerin and silva ! Haha

        3. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Sorry, Silva is world class.

        4. Phil Dagger ⭐
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Gosh ? Really? Silva ?

          That's a joke. He is that good that he is a little underrated probably

        5. Forza
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          City fans know him better than anyone, and one of the only things stopping most City fans from naming Silva as the best City player ever is Agüero. He deserves his reputation.

      3. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Koscielny?? Are you kidding me?

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Overrated. Muck.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Nonsense

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Are you an Arsenal fan?

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                I like the way they play.

                Just about every other Top 6 side has 1 and sometimes 2 defensive mids to assist the defence. Often Koscielny has zero screen.

                Last season was his worse but form is temporary and class is permanent, and all that.

            2. internal error
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              • 11 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              whilst I wouldn't call him muck, he is overrated IMO. A top CB doesn't make the high profile mistakes he does

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Yes they would and more if they were put on an island like Koscielny and Mustafi often are.

                1. internal error
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                  Dont agree. Koscielny has brain farts. There are better CB's in the league

                  1. Twisted Saltergater
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    We'll have to agree to disagree then 🙂

    5. GreenWindmill
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      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Bolasie

    6. GreenWindmill
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      6 years, 9 months ago

      Pickford

        1. FPL ZB
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          just paid the £12.50 to see that table. Don't know why I did that! Pickford is good though

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            MARK???

            IS THE CHEQUE IN THE POST?

            😆 😆 😆

            http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/939/

          2. Jazz!
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            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Now I've just done it as well since you tempted me 😛

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              *claps* 😀

        2. GreenWindmill
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          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Stats don't say a lot for a goalkeeper in a cannon fodder team though - he's got potential but I don't buy the level of hype at this stage. 'Errors Leading To Goals' is an interesting column...

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            • 14 Years
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            Yes, he's young. Saves(caught)?

            1. GreenWindmill
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              Yes - very poor on that.

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                Same as Cech ... 🙂

                1. GreenWindmill
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                  • 12 Years
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                  More telling as a proportion of the shots faced though - Pickford's raw volumes are high because he was so often in the action, his pro rated figures for things like caught saves, etc. are pretty bad.

                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                    • 14 Years
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                    Well, I am going to disagree with you slightly there. You have to remember he was behind a terrible defence, which for some inexplicable reason also sold van Aanholt.

                    1. GreenWindmill
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                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      Yeah - agree to disagree - my basis for being sceptical of how good he will turn out to be is that he was behind a terrible defence! Wouldn't be the first time a 'keeper shines in a poor team but then looks average in a better team.

                      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                        • 14 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        I think, when he has more time, he will be brilliant. I like his positioning. 🙂

                        I have also just bought him in this game:

                        https://www.soccermanager.com/multiplayer.php?action=setclub&clubid=67186934&sid=357005&xgw=#

                        😆

    7. internal error
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      Matip is good, not sure if he gets much credit to be considered overrated.
      Clyne is average IMO.

    8. Phil Dagger ⭐
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      6 years, 9 months ago

      E
      R
      I
      C

      D
      I
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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        6 years, 9 months ago

        +
        4
        2

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Sigh. He has positional intelligence and composure. Yes, that's not flashy-im-going-to-win-you-this-game-singlehandedly but he's a vital cog in the wheel.

        Look at the positions he takes up when Spurs transition from attack to defence, and vice versa. He has such a good understanding of the game at a young age.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I sort of agree with you there, but his execution is not up to snuff. He is now running out of time to fix that.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            No doubt he needs to improve with each season otherwise a top 6 club like Spurs will just go out and replace him. But so long as Poch wants the flezibility to switch between 3 and 2 CBs mid game, then Dier's key to that.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              • 14 Years
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              Maybe. Would not be too keen on him at Hammers.

              1. Twisted Saltergater
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                He could replace the rocks that are Fonte and Noble in a single swoop 😉

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  • 14 Years
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                  No, he really couldn't!!! 😀

        2. Phil Dagger ⭐
          • 7 Years
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          Yes exactly he is a vital cog in this spurs side but as I said above he is aa chameleon in.this spurs side. he has adjusted to his surroundings well in spurs but at any other side he will get find out.

      3. *Reformed-Character*
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        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Good shout Phildagge !

    9. internal error
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      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Rashford

    10. makaveli123
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      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Walker, Henderson, Courtois, Barkley, Dier, Smalling, Walcott

    11. Parm
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mignolet; Clyne, Lovren, Matip, Milner; Henderson, Wijnaldum, Lallana; Mané, Firmino, Coutinho.

      1. fedolefan
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        VVD

    12. FISSH
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Loads of people saying Henderson.. He gets slated!!

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        yeah dont understand the Henderson Hate. What Fools

    13. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alonso Firmino Walker Xhaka

      1. internal error
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        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        forgot Martial

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Good shout. Seems he could always do more than what he's giving.

          1. KingNidge
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Fair..That's the issue Mourinho has with him.. lets not forget his brilliant fist season though

            1. internal error
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              • 11 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              I think you give Martial too much credit for his first season

              1. KingNidge
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                I think 17 goals in his first season in English football at 19 years of age playing in a side that created next to nothing deserves a lot of credit but it's a game of opinions

                1. internal error
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                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  he did well and showed glimpses of his talent but 11 league goals isn't brilliant IMO

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    You're right it's not that's why Firmino makes my list..

                    But like i said for a kid in his first season in England it was an excellent season personally.. 17 goals.. cup goals count too

        2. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Players so young off the back of one below par season get a by ball

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Hey Nidge

        Just because Alonso is poor at LB and maybe poor at LM, doesnt mean he can't be an awesome left wingback (which is what he was last season). I don't see how that makes him overrated.

        Walker's interesting. He seems to have tailed off a lot and maybe lost some pace too.

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Hi mate i just have an issue with Alonso due to the fact he destroyed my FPL season tbh he's not bad

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            😀 we all have those... I underrated Harry Kane lol

            1. KingNidge
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Sure berbs called him a one season wonder so we can take his above selections with a pinch of salt 🙂

          2. FPL ZB
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            • 7 Years
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            As a Chelsea fan I do think Alonso is extremely weak defensively, has absolutely no pace and is always very nervy against tricky wingers. Got helped out a lot by how brilliant Luiz and Dave were

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Surely Cahill given the left side of defence??

              It's easy to pick holes in players but look at what he did deliver. He was always an attacking outlet on the left (more so than Moses on the other side), and timed his runs into the box to get on the end of crosses brilliantly. He was also composed, intelligent and a good crosser.

              Is he a Dani Alves? No, but he helped you win the league, in a massive way.

            2. *Reformed-Character*
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              • 6 Years
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              How would Dave be relevant to alonso ?

              1. FPL ZB
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                A LOT of crosses were stuck in from Alonso's side, he was never really tight enough, and i think got away with it based on how well Chelsea defended balls into the box, which is testament to the three centre backs

    14. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Does anyone still rate Sterling? Him and Barkley are most overrated

      1. KingNidge
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I was very critical of Sterling but imo he improved a lot this season becoming a Pep favourite and adding a bit of end product here and there.. for that reason i left him off my list

        Huge Barkley fan but couldn't argue with him being on the list either

      2. Flaming Flamingo
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Couldn't agree more

    15. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Josh King 👿

    16. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Folk actually think Silva is over rated ! ....He's exactly the opposite. He's fantastic.

      I think we're getting confused between a good pick for FPL and real life. Silva plays all over the pitch for City and is class...but if he played further up his FPL pts for goals and assists would flood in.

      You don't get to be Spain's fourth highest all time goalscorer by being over rated.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Missed you Wakey 🙂

      2. FPL ZB
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Would you be playing him over Aguero or De Bruyne next season then? (Assuming Jesus and one DM are guaranteed)

    17. Arn De Gothia
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Joey Barton

    18. Dave Boozle
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Clyne is a great shout given how far forward he gets.

      Amazed no-one has mentioned Rooney.

    19. Kryten
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ross barkey only gets plaudits because he's English

    20. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Some of the Stoke squad IMO - Allen, Berahino, Afellay, Shaqiri and Bojan.

      There is a reason Stoke have not progressed since Pulis left and Hughes' recruitment of overrated flair players like those above is a big part of it.

    21. UshFPL
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho, Bellerin, Barkley, Dier, Bolasie, Cahill

    22. Ramboros
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kevin de Bruyne - He's been straight out bad for a lot of times this season. World class player in the right role and in form, but he's not playing like that at the moment.

      Sané - Player with bad decision making that succeeds because wingers have a limited role in Guardiola's system. He's like a mix of Tello and Pedro. Will improve with age.

      Sigurdsson - Gets overrated because he was a key player at a terrible team that people rarely watch. Would be a viewed as a mid tier player if he didn't have an advanced role and all the set pieces.

      Alli - Loses the ball and makes too many mistakes. Only plays great in a free role. Gets overrated because he's young and English.

      Snodgrass - See Sigurdsson, just much worse.

      Shaqiri - Wildly inconsistent player with terrible decision making and poor passing.

      1. Baron Saturday
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Entitled to your opinion of course. My opinion is that you're off your head!

        1. Ramboros
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          You can be a good Premier League player and be overrated. That depends entirely on how highly you are rated.

      2. SneakyPete
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This is about FPL. Alli, Siggy (for years) are great fpl assests. KDB is very unreliable.

        For their football, I only agree with Shaqiri out of all these.

        Sane apart from his decision making which as you say will improve is pretty good.

        I don't understand your view on Siggy, if he didn't have advance role with all set pieces. Have you seen his set pieces, one of the best Indirect and direct set piece taker in Premier league. To score 9 goals and more than 10 assists, you would've to be good enough especially in that Swansea Squad.

        Dele Alli is all about Output, just like Frank Lampard. How can a player be overrated when he has 56 goals + assists without penalties in 96 apps for his club.

        Snodgrass isn't even rated enough for him to be criticized

    23. A.T
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Walker
      Sterling
      Hart
      Henderson
      Clyne
      Pogba
      Smalling
      Shaw
      Ox
      Walcott
      Ramsey
      Bellerin
      Barkley
      Williams
      Bolasie
      Maguire
      Mahrez
      Benteke
      Zaha
      Antonio

    24. fedolefan
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ozil, Gabriel Jesus

    25. Red Wasabi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      It's gotta be John stones!!

  8. CloudSky
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    AS's closest journalist to Jorge Mendes saying today that Ronaldo has been calmed down by Perez defence of him and no longer wants to leave.

    Color me shocked.

  9. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Feel like I've paid for membership more to aid the upkeep of the site than to use the members areas. Any chances of a facebook like notification system on the site for replies rather than having to get hundreds of emails? Would be a great feature!

    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes, notification on log in of replies to your comments is something we can look at.

      I'm presuming by your comment on the members area, that you're not a stats man? If you were, I'd struggle to see how you wouldn't find it useful. Any comments and feedback on the content there would be appreciated - we've got some new ideas brewing but always open to more.

      The Members area will be the focus in pre-season, then we will switch attention to the main site after the first few weeks of the season and when the audience here has settled. July/August would not be a time to start monkeying around with HomeCrowd.

      1. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I second that reply notifs would be nice - perhaps also '@' notifications by username. presumably with some sort of filtering so those most likely to be '@'d' could tone it down.

      2. FPL ZB
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I'm sure I will use the members area plenty, just more interested in the general maintenance of the site and enjoying the articles etc, so that seems a more valid use of money!

        Notifications have always been my biggest peeve with the site so getting that addressed would be fantastic!

      3. Parm
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Are there any plans for new members articles Mark?

        There's so much untapped data in the members area that could do with some quality writing and analysis to go with it.

        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I'd hope so - we're always looking for new writers to help cover new members articles ideas. I've ideas and if we can expand the writing team, I'll add more.

            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            What's the pay rate for the writing team?

            1. 32chickens
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Balders
              Where did you pop up from?

              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                He is always here

      4. Jigger & Pony
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Mark - it would be great to be able to see replies to your posted comments as a thread, for example, in the Comments area of View Your Profile.

        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yes, that's another good idea to explore.

    2. *Reformed-Character*
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This suggested notification system would be great mark 🙂

  10. Phil Dagger ⭐
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Little Quiz Guys (Last Season)

    All these stats refer to players who played only in
    midfield and logged at least 2,000 minutes.

    Player number one ➡
    he was the busiest player in the league, making 87.4 passes per 90 minutes.

    Player number two ➡
    he had the best touch in the league among midfielders, guilty of only 0.4 unsuccessful touches per 90 minutes.

    Player number three ➡
    he was the hardest midfielder to dispossess, losing the ball to an opponent only 0.5 times per 90 minutes.

    1. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Silva
      Silva
      Silva

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Ahmm wrong

        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          🙂

          Just thought it would be nice given he's being called overrated above - took a punt!

          1. Phil Dagger ⭐
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Good idea.
            if you can work something out a little more you will get the answer right I am sure. You are close in a sense

            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Ha!

              1. Phil Dagger ⭐
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Tubelight 😛

    2. Parm
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Henderson
      Ozil
      Wanyama

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        First one Is Correct

        Two to go

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Henderson played 2k mins, thats surprising! 😮

    3. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Silva
      Herrera
      Kante

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        nope

    4. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      1) Eriksen

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Probably 2) and 3) also Eriksen

    5. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Henderson
      Herrera
      Dembele

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        only 1
        2 & 3 are wrong

    6. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Azpi
      KDB
      Herrera

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Hazard maybe for number 2

    7. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Henderson
      Sanchez
      Sterling

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        2 and 3 are wrong BB

        1. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Kante and Hazard?

    8. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Henderson
      Henderson
      Henderson

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        *Drum Rolls

        Gentlemans We have got a Winner here

        Well Done Jazz 😀

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          😆

        2. Jazz!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I pounced on your clue to GreenWindMill. 😎

          1. Phil Dagger ⭐
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah that was the biggest hint I give in it . Well done

        3. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          It cannot be. Your post stated that it referred to 'players' - plural.

          Unless of course there are 3 different Hendersons. 😉

          1. Phil Dagger ⭐
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Folks who gave Answers like Silva Silva Silva and 3 Eriksens didn't have that problem 😉

            1) Jordan Henderson
            2) Jordan Wow Henderson

            and when it reaches to third it gets changed to
            3) JFH
            Jordan Fu***** Henderson

            😀

    9. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      3)Xhaka

    10. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Henderson
      Lanzini
      Lanzini

      1. FPL ZB
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Balls.

    11. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ha, I knew that one as I often read articles on football365. Good quiz tho!

  11. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Fixtures are out..

    Home to Fleetwood then Rochdale away. Living the dream 🙄 VENKYS OUT!!

  12. McNulty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Just signed up for membership again! So that is every season now since it was available, not sure how many years that is now? Four perhaps? Its worth every penny just for the stats tables for those who haven't signed up before. Its a great addition to have stats per minutes now as that is a far easier way of making comparisons, also the more advanced home/away filters will be very useful in analysing home/away stats more accurately.

    On the development article it mentioned that comments are welcome, so I have just been creating some tables to see what kind of things I could look at before the start of next season and I have a few questions on some of the perhaps lesser used variables:

    CBI:
    There seems to be a very minor variation compared to if you add clearances, blocks and interceptions separately. (See Ashley Williams as an example).

    Chances Missed/Missed Opportunities:
    These are the same variable. I am not too sure what this is trying to tell us since Ibrahimovic supposedly had the most missed chances last season, with four! Yet he had 16 "Big Chances Missed".

    Touches - Opponents Half:
    "Touches - Opponents Half - Centre" + "Touches - Opponents Half - Right" + "Touches - Opponents Half - Left" does not add up to the total amount by quite a significant amount. Any idea what is wrong here?

    Pedantic ones:

    Passes - Successful - Own Half:
    There is "Passes - Own Half" and "Passes - Own Half - Unsuccessful", so perhaps rename to align with those.

    Throw Ins - Successful/Unsuccessful:
    I was confused here since the total number of successful and unsuccessful throws in didn't add up to "Throw Ins". But it turns out that "Throws Ins - Successful" + "Throw Ins - Unsuccessful" = "Distribution - Throws". So it is actually only goalkeepers that this stat is relevant for, not what you would consider a standard throw in so perhaps rename to distribution.

    1. McNulty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Oh and another couple I wanted to query:

      "Headed Goal Attempts - On Target" + "Headed Goal Attempts - Off Target" does not equal "Headed Goal Attempts"

      But is the due to blocked headed attempts?

      "Long Clearances" only has goalkeepers with non-zero values, so are these goal kicks hit long?

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      + 42

    3. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks for flagging these up - will bring to the attention of Mark/Ed/Mat who should be able to do something about them.

    4. McNulty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Last one I promise!

      Fouls = "Fouls Won" + "Fouls Conceded" which doesn't really make sense as they have very different meanings. "Fouls Won" usually has high values for pacey attacking players in the opposition half, whilst "Fouls Conceded" is more for defenders and defensive mids.

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        All good - let us know if you see more!

        1. McNulty
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Big Chances Total is the same as Big Chances too I think. Will let you know if I see any others but I think I have looked at them all now.

          1. Mark
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 17 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah, that's just a naming thing - they are the same stat under the hood.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              You need a style Editor ... 😉

    5. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Lovely stuff McNulty - many thanks for this and for signing up again this season.

      Yeah, we've been checking our queries and therefore I think, having corrected some, a few things are off kilter.

      I will go through this list and task Mat up to have a look. He already has a task to sweep all stats in the BPS so some of these will be addressed as part of this.

      Please shout on here and mail me at mark@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk if you see anything else and if you want us to add.

      1. McNulty
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        No problem. Hopefully I can post something worthwhile once I have had a chance to go through all the data which I am doing now.

        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Great thanks - as you might have guessed, while our F24 feed is brilliant in that it gives us access to everything we could ever want, it's all hard won and our queries have to be spot on - some get quite complex. Also, there is the added complication that Opta update stats after the event - sometimes days after a match and we have to make sure that the most up to date file is always processed.

      2. Stemania
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Just to add to the above from McNulty:

        Being a big stats user and a grateful FFS member for a few years, I've always thought the most useful addition to the area would be some sort of 'Stats Dictionary' help page that (in addition to clarifying what a few of the stats represent) explicitly relates the stats you display to all the quantities used by FPL in BPS calculation - or at least a renaming of the stats to match those in the FPL rules. Is this sort of what Mat has been asked to do?

        Examples like FPLs 'Successful tackles (net*)' are not necessarily obvious in FFS members area language and have to be worked out from 'Tackles won' an 'Tackles won no possession' etc. Plus, things like FPL's 'Dribbles' being called 'Take-ons' in FFS, or simply whether FPL's 'Open play crosses' means your 'successful' ones or all attempts, seems to add needless confusion. Or, whether an FPL BPS 'Key Pass' is the same as FFS 'Key contribution' rather than a combination of chances creates minus assists and big chances created that has to be worked out (which is the number displayed on some other sites for 'Key Passes' and what I suspect it is).

        In terms of aesthetics, there's also the fact that some stats are labelled "Attempts conceded..." yet others are for some reason "Goal attempts conceded..." which makes searching for stats tougher than it needs to be as they're sorted alphabetically (and then 'Headed Goal attempts' starts with an 'H' when surely it would be better as 'Goal attempts - headed' so it's next to the other goal attempt stats). I think even some cleanup of the the language of 'shots' and and '(goal) attempts' would be useful. It's odd that some stats are called one and some the other, with an accidental overlap as a result ('Goal Attempts' being identical to 'Shots').

        As an aside, there's a couple of team stats that would be great to add - a breakdown of SoT conceded per team (at least 'total' if not so specific as 'from inside area' etc). It's great that 'Big chances created' by player now seems available where I didn't think it was this time last year, amongst a whole host of other.

        (Sorry for long post - I think it's actually my first in 4 years of membership, as I'm usually found in another FPL place - though perhaps much of the above is well known/discussed in the community.) 😀

  13. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Lots of ifs coming in this question.
    IF Sanchez stays at Arsenal, and IF he remains classified as a midfielder, and IF Arsenal succed in getting either Lacazette or (lol) Mbappe, and IF he is below 13m. Would you have him in your FPL team?

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Not for 13m, 12 is more than enough

    2. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes.

    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No more than 12.00.

    4. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I don't think I'll have him either way until GW4.

    5. Arn De Gothia
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes, first name almost

    6. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'd take Lacazette!

  14. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    So having successfully had my head transplanted onto a banana, I went out in the sun yesterday and today it's starting to peel.

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      😆

      Next Time get you Head Trasnplanted onto a Rock

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Not very appeeling

    3. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      But did you die?

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Just be thankful it did not split ...

      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        😀

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          😉

    5. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      You should change your FPL team name to Adam Banana.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Pelham Banana. Surely?

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I was going for that Adam Lallana play on words lol

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Aha! Very droll! 😆

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          - or BananaFooli ...

          1. Baines on Toast...
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            @doos I think I undershot defoe btw, didn't realise he ended last year as 7.4. Will be upping to 7.5 now - not sure where that'll leave King though.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Ah, OK - I will follow you. Thanks. 🙂

  15. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Valencia price prediction?
    If both toby and valencia be 6, which one you prefer ?

    1. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      6 and 6, would rather than Tony for attacking potentials

    2. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      will be released week of 10 July

    3. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Would prefer Valencia but he might be rotated with UCL around, so Toby

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        With darmian leaving roumors can't see him a big threat if he stays

    4. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Both will be 6 imo. Prefer Valencia for the attacking threat.

    5. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      6.0, Valencia

    6. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      6.0
      Valencia to start with - looking at the fixtures.

  16. Arteta
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    6.0 and Toby simply because of nailedonness.

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      😀

      Ozil Assist Fail

      1. Arteta
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        It happens to the best of us 😛

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Maybe I should go with both. But too much spending on defenders may destroy squad !?

      1. Arteta
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, I think it's wiser to invest more money in attackers..

  17. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Following on from the post earlier, who do you think are the most underrated players in the premier league?

    Mine are Dembele, Can, Firmino, and Silva 🙂

    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Dembele, Eriksen (compared to the buzz about Alli and Kane)

    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      David Silva and Eriksen. Both highly regarded of course but they're both better than they're given credit for.

      Pogba can have a mention as well.

    3. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Vertonghen

    4. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Wanyama, Emre Can, Darmian (I was v impressed with him last season), Cedric.

    5. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A little Controversial ones for me are Azpi and Aguero and especially Aguero .They are soo good that it feels like they are a little underrated imo in a sense that in case of Aguero his talents is being taken for Granted. If Any other play does it it garners a lot of attention even if they are seasoned pros but if Aguero scores lots of goals not much is make out of it. He is really special

    6. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ben Mee
      Lanzini
      Pedro .. ridiculous work rate

    7. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Azpilicueta. Would walk into any team in the world in one position or another

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I doubt he plays up front for Real Madrid.

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        He's been put forward as the best defender in the PL several times on Sky. Not sure how he can be considered underrated.

        1. FPL ZB
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Didn't get in the Team of the Year

    8. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Lallana, Xhaka, Mata and Azpi.

    9. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A
      G
      U
      E
      R
      O
      O
      O
      O
      O
      O
      O

    10. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      How can internationally capped players be underrated! Everyone has posted international players 😀 Or are we talking those players that are not considered World Class but should be??

    11. makaveli123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Can, Eriksen, Carrick, Silva, Gueye, Romeu

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Gueye's good. Not far off Kante quality from what I've seen.

        1. makaveli123
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I agree.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            A disproportionate number in these lists are defensive midfielders. Maybe they're not under-rated as such, but of less value in fantasy football, thus they're not discussed so much here.

            1. makaveli123
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Fair point.

    12. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ramsay

      1. KingNidge
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Gordon?

    13. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Herrera Evans Milner Lallana Steven Davis Lanzini

    14. Saxe-Gotha
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Dembele & Herrera

  18. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    With all the set pieces, is anyone considering Matt Ritchie for next season?

    1. Arn De Gothia
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      if under 6, sure

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He struggled for Bournemouth in their first season but could be good.

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Sanchez number 9 😉

      1. Arn De Gothia
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        That would just be wrong 🙂

      1. Arn De Gothia
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Totally agree

  19. sbasty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Next discussion, which footballers in the Prem do you think are UNDERrated?

    Slip under the radar, but are actually class..

    I'll start the bidding with Albrighton.

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Look up mate 😉

      1. sbasty
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Haha. Classic..

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Have I entered a parallel dimension?! 😀

  20. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hmm. Fitting Ronaldo and Lewandowski in for United coverage is going to be pricey.

    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

    2. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Lingard and Fellaini instead?

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      532 😛

    4. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      * just waiting for the post about *if* Ronaldo is at ManU and *if* Lewa goes to Chelsea, *then* how do you pick three from Ronaldo Lewandowski Aguero and Kane?

      😆

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Mbappe at Arsenal and Aubameyang at Newcastle will really mess things up.

        1. Heels_Over_Head
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Lacazette at Liverpool?

    5. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Life is going to hit you guys hard when Dier and Perisic are announced in a double deal.

      1. Heels_Over_Head
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        That was really mean to Perisic.

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Decent player but you're having a laugh at that money and considering he'll be signed to play instead of Martial, a player with far more to his game.

          1. Heels_Over_Head
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Martial's young. Mourinho has to destroy all his self-confidence. Young players are to Mourinho as the blond guy is to Tyler in Fight Club, sometimes you just have to destroy something beautiful.

    6. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Going to be even harder tripling up with Morata

  21. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Alli, sane, mane, firmino, ozil, eriksen, coutinho and even pogba
    Picking team is going to be a real headache. As picking a formation will be.
    Kane 13 and kun 12
    No money for midfielders and defenders
    Also premium defenders love increasing
    How to pick 😐

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      How to pick? Simple. Log off from the site, come back a week before FPL deadline, steal all the good ideas, and cruise 😛

  22. Heels_Over_Head
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Do you plan to be template or off template to start the season?

    How?

    Will you help create the template by being part of the conversation stream here?
    Will you just copy the template?
    Will you avoid the template by specifically picking X number of players not in the template?

    1. Ronny Hotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Sure if there is a template I wkll

    2. Johqvist
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      It's funny how the GW 1 template team forms itself the closer to deadline we get. First couple of days are fun in terms of RMTs.

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      There's an argument that you pick the big hitters that are most owned for GW1. That way, if the big hitters fire you're up there with the front runners and if they don't, the players that scored well are low owned so you have less people to catch up with.

      I always end up going fairly maverick myself as I always think I know better...

  23. Eze Really?
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Picking players new to the PL is dangerous. History clearly shows tried and trusted choices are the way to early on. There are exceptions though. I will maybe have one at the end of the day.

    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Did you start last season with Ibra?

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        No i did not. Class act but at his age, his form in the Euros and the heavy price tag kept me away. it did not hurt either.
        Siggy King Erik and Alli are in my side, pricing allowed.

    2. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I was so hyped for Steve Mandanda last year. Didn't go well.

    3. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Flooding your team with them for GW1 is suicide, but having the odd new player is ok. Not so difficult to sort out.

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This^

  24. Mane Of Steel
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    If you plan on using your wildcard in the first five game weeks like me, here are some stats regarding defense. Last season in the first 5 game weeks, Leicester, Everton, Man U, and Spurs were the only team to register more than 1 clean sheet... all having 2. So what are your plans for defense to start off the season? History shows, their tends to be more clean sheets towards the end of the season rather than the beginning. I am thinking of having double WBA, and a SOU and playing a 3 back. Maybe having a few newly promoted players as my bench players (4.5). What is your guys plan in terms of defense to start off with?

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Will try and get Man U, Spurs, Southampton and West Brom, for the opening set of fixtures depending on prices.

      1. Mane Of Steel
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Very good fixtures indeed.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yep. Play the Man U and Spurs defenders every week, Southampton defender to be only played at home (unless VVD is a reasonable price) and probably Foster in goal again (if 4.5m).

          1. Mane Of Steel
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            I will probably go with Foster as well. If so, I'd go with one WBA and upgrade to either Man U or spurs as a premium option.

    2. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Man Utd, Southampton, West Brom, Huddersfield, and then check my funds.

      1. Mane Of Steel
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Sounds like a good plan.

        1. Mane Of Steel
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Also, if Lukaku leaves... would Baines be on pens?

          1. FPL ZB
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Probably will, but won't be considering Everton until GW6

          2. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            I waited pretty much half a season for a Baines pen last year and it just didn't happen. Would be bloody typical if he gets a couple during Everton's tough opening start!

      2. FPL Kangaroo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This. Valencia/Cedric/Dawson/T.Smith/4.0 for me I reckon.
        Then Foster & Myhill in between the sticks for 8.5m.

        1. Mane Of Steel
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Prediction on Valencia price? 6?

          1. FPL Kangaroo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah should be 6. Lindelof at 5.5m would be interesting tho.Save that extra 0.5 and use in attack.
            However he may be eased into things.Not guaranteed first team place.

            1. FPL ZB
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Think Bailly would also be 5.5, and his card record and added goal threat (neither really have a goal threat) would probably edge him over Lindelof for me

              1. FPL Kangaroo
                • 6 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Yeah I agree.Bailly at 5.5 would be a bargain.He is a Bps magnet.

            2. Mane Of Steel
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah I will go for the 5.5 Man U defender if there happens to be one.

        2. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Cedric nailed? I know there's been debate in the past

          1. FPL Kangaroo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah I think so.Unless they sign a new right-back.Should be 5.0m

            1. Lovren an elevator
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Could be an absolute steal at 5 if he ups his attacking output. He's good for Portugal isn't he

    3. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I seem to be aiming pretty template:

      Forster/Begovic
      Or
      Foster/Fabianski

      Valencia, Spurs def, Soton def, Dawson, Tommy Smith.

      1. FPL Kangaroo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah that line-up will be pretty much template.
        Especially if Walker leaves then everyone will have Trippier at 5.5/6.0.

    4. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Defensively I am planning on two premium defenders and 3 budget defenders from BOU/SWA/WAT that will rotate. Now plans don't always go as intended, but if I stuck with this plan I would have 25 home games against bottom 10 teams (as I rank them) and 8 away covers against bottom 10 teams. Hopefully this would give me chance to get a few CS from my third, budget defender. Other possible rotation would be BUR/STO/WBA. Planning on a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 to start the season.

      1. Mane Of Steel
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Sounds like a good plan. I have never really liked a 4 back. Especially at the begginning of the season.

    5. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Interesting correlation between those teams keeping the cs at the beginning of last season is they all had good to great fixtures between them. At the beginning of the season, where true form is tough to pick out, I'll certainly be sticking with fixtures for my defence. Probably something like
      5.5 UTD, VVD or Cedric, Dawson / Nyom, cheapos. Maybe Ryan in goal I don't know. Foster didn't excel in my team last season, but he never seemed to do quite enough to merit the boot.

      1. Mane Of Steel
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I am definitely keeping my eye on Cedric as well.

  25. le flem
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    What does +42 mean?

    1. Ronny Hotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Reference to Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy and a long standing member of the community who is a big fan of it.

      1. Heels_Over_Head
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This.

      2. le flem
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Oh, ok, cheers

  26. CloudSky
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    "Arsenal's new home kit has been revealed today and there appears to be a change in shirt number for one players.

    That's because as per the club's official website, Danny Welbeck will be wearing the No.7 shirt for the 2017/18 campaign.

    And though Sanchez is still listed as wearing the No.7 on the website if you go to purchase the Arsenal home shirt, Welbeck is also registered with the same number."

    Probably an error and means nothing but its interesting to speculate. 🙂

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Intriguing eh!

      (posted above too by Arn de Gothea)

      1. CloudSky
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        It is, yes.

        (just saw his post)

  27. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Still getting random posts not appearing and profile saying I have not posted in the last 30 days. If I refresh the page the history appears. Been like it for a few days 😐

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Maybe your profile is having a nice dream 😉

    2. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This was brought up earlier. Mark is looking into it.

      Have you been sleep-posting?

      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        It was brought up before today, hence 'still'.

        Don't get the two sleep references 😕

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Chill Winston! I was making a reference that your profile gets a work out pretty much every day, hence the (crap) joke about dreaming of not logging in for 30 days 😛

        2. Heels_Over_Head
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yes still. I upvoted you to get the attention of the powers that be.

          Ignore the comedy that fell flat.

  28. Heels_Over_Head
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Only 4 managers in the Premier League have been with their clubs since 2013 or earlier, who are these managerial superstars?

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Wenger
      Howe
      Dyche
      Pulis

      ?

      1. Heels_Over_Head
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        One wrong.

        Well played.

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Mark Hughes instead of Pulis

        1. Heels_Over_Head
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Aye.

          Wenger Sep 1996
          Howe Oct 2012
          Dyche Oct 2012
          Hughes May 2013

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Booooom!

            (I never "win" any of these sort of things 🙂 )

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Howe pulis wenger dyche

      1. Heels_Over_Head
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Alan Irvine says almost but not quite.