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A Good Start in FPL – Lessons Learnt from 2016/17

Getting a good start is not essential to win the Fantasy Premier League, but it certainly helps. To achieve a top 100,000 or even top 10,000 ranking straight away creates vital momentum – it can also show how well your summer research has paid off.

To prepare for next season’s opening fixtures I thought I’d take a look back at the Scout Picks Gameweek 1 team in 2016/17  to find out what we got wrong, what we got right and what lessons Fantasy managers may learn.

In addition, I’ve also compared our selection to that week’s best scorers.

I’ve chosen the Scout Picks to look at early season success or failure as it is a good indicator of how many of the FFS Community approached the start of the season – using the tried and tested criteria of last season’s form, fixtures and pre-season knowledge.

Hopefully this may give you some thoughts about how best to prepare for the start of next season.

LAST SEASON’S GAMEWEEK 1 SCOUT PICKS

Tom Heaton (4.5)

Goalkeeper

Team: Burnley

Fixture: SWA

What we said: “With the third highest number of saves in 2014/15 – the last time Burnley were in the Premier League – we feel he has plenty of points potential this week when Swansea visit. A clean sheet also looks likely as Swansea look to adapt to life without their top scorer last term, Andre Ayew, who has moved to West Ham.”

What actually happened: We were half right. Burnley conceded 0-1 to Swansea so missed out on a clean sheet, but Heaton still picked up a total of 4 points thanks to seven saves. This was to typify his season, with save points helping to make up for conceding, particularly on the road.

Christian Fuchs (5.5)

Defender

Team: Leicester

Fixture: hull

What we said: “Managerless Hull are decimated by injuries, leaving little hope of attacking returns when Leicester visit. Last season’s fifth highest point scoring defender in FPL last term, Fuchs is our pick of the Foxes’ backline thanks to his knack of picking up FPL bonus points. Last season no other defender earned more than the 12.5% owned Austrian’s tally of 25.

What actually happened: The Austrian formed part of a less than successful Leicester triple up, with the champions losing 2-1 to relegation favourites Hull. A yellow card meant Fuchs finished with 0 points. Disaster.

George Friend (4.5)

Defender

Team: Middlesbrough

Fixture: STK

What we said: “Promoted Middlesbrough’s team sheet is awash with strong budget options this season, with their left-back no exception. Priced at 4.5, he has a strong chance of a shut out when Stoke visit and his 2.5 interceptions per match with 2.3 tackles won last season bode well for bonus potential.

What actually happened: Boro drew with Stoke leaving Friend with just 2 points. We were also wrong to back him, not his teammate Ben Gibson,  early on. Friend finished with less than half of Gibson’s tally.

Virgil Van Djik (5.5)

Defender

Team: Southampton

Fixture: WAT

What we said: “With three goals and 29 goal attempts in 2015/16, we are hoping for returns at both ends of the pitch for the Southampton centre back when Watford visit.”

What actually happened: Another 1-1 draw, and a yellow card, which meant the Dutch defender handed us just 1 point. His one goal and no assists, before injury ended his season in Gameweek 23, proved we were also wrong to trust his promising underlying attacking statistics

Riyad Mahrez (9.5)

Midfielder

Team: Leicester

Fixture: hull

What we said: “The 26.5% of FPL managers that have already drafted him in certainly don’t need reminding of a stellar 2015/16 campaign, where he finished as FPL’s top scorer with 240 points. Encouragingly, 12 of Mahrez’ 17 goals arrived away from home last term.”

What actually happened: Leicester may have lost but we were right to back Mahrez’s away form. He scored and picked up a bonus point to take his tally to 8 points.

Eden Hazard (10.0)

Midfielder

Team: Chelsea

Fixture: WHU

What we said: “Three goals in pre-season and the faith of new manager Antonio Conte give us cause for optimism ahead of West Ham’s visit to Stamford Bridge. Despite a relatively small tally of just five strikes last term, he has still earned the backing of 17% of FPL managers and could give Hammers’ expected right-back Michail Antonio a torrid time down the flank on Monday night.”

What actually happened: We ignored his dire previous campaign and backed him to bounce back. He did just that this week and over the season. Against West Ham he scored and earned maximum bonus to take his points tally that week to 10.

Dusan Tadic (7.5)

Midfielder

Team: Southampton

Fixture: wat

What we said: “Under new manager Claude Puel, Southampton have revamped their formation to create a midfield diamond with Dusan Tadic sparkling as the most advanced player behind a front two.”

What actually happened: We were wrong this week and over the season. Despite being on penalties and that shiny role at the tip of the pre-season diamond he failed to provide returns in Gameweek 1, scoring just 2 points. While assisting seven times over the season provided some evidence of our faith, his  goal tally of three was not what we were hoping for.

Andros Townsend (6.5)

Midfielder

Team: Crystal Palace

Fixture: WBA

What we said: “He excelled for Newcastle at the tail end of last season and we anticipate he will do the same again in a wide role at Alan Pardew’s Crystal Palace. Priced at 6.5 he faces a West Brom side that has struggled in pre-season, where the Baggies kept just one clean sheet in six friendlies.”

What actually happened: He didn’t excel to put it bluntly. West Brom beat Palace and Townsend achieved a mere 2 points. It wasn’t until Gameweek 5 where we saw his first double digit return. We had to wait until Gameweek 27, ironically against West Brom, for his second.

Sergio Aguero (13.0)

Forward

Team: Manchester City

Fixture: SUN

What we said: “Given his pedigree, it is no surprise the Argentine leads our Captain Poll for Gameweek 1 and is currently the most popular player in FPL, with a 41% ownership. There is a word of caution, though. While City have regularly put the Black Cats to the sword at home, Sunderland’s new manager David Moyes has a far better record. In his last four seasons with Everton he was only beaten once away to City in the league.”

What actually happened: Sunderland did indeed put up a good fight, but ultimately lost 2-1 with Aguero scoring and earning maximum bonus points. While his season was marred by rotation and suspension Aguero proved a strong pick for this opening fixture based on form and fixture. Was he worth 13.0 though? Arguably not.

Jamie Vardy (10.0)

Forward

Team: Leicester

Fixture: hull

What we said: “A goal against Manchester United in the Community Shield will have further fuelled his confidence and optimism amongst his 23.7% FPL managers. Vardy makes our XI at the expense of Zlatan Ibrahimovic (11.5), due to the Manchester United striker’s lack of Premier League pedigree and slightly less favourable fixture, away to Bournemouth.”

What actually happened: In hindsight the attacking double up of Mahrez and Vardy was a mistake. We heavily backed the champions and we fell flat on our face. Vardy failed to score and handed us just 2 points.

Andre Gray (6.5)

Forward

Team: Burnley

Fixture: SWA

What we said: “The Burnley forward looks primed to take advantage of Ashley Williams’ departure to Everton this week, as Swansea make their way to Turf Moor. With nine goals in pre-season Gray certainly has strong form on his side to punish the Swans.”

What actually happened: He blanked in Burnley’s 1-0 loss to Swansea. Granted he brought in 10 points the following week but another attacking return didn’t arrive until Gameweek 15, in a season where he fell out of favour and was also suspended for historic social media comments.

Total Scout Picks GWK 1 Score: 42 (Gameweek average 44)

Gameweek 1 Dream Team

Foster (10)

Kingsley (8), Collins (8), McAuley (7)

Coutinho (15), Fer (11), Lallana (11), Martial (11), Capoue (10)

Negredo (9), Ibrahimovic (9)

Lessons to learn

Be wary of fixtures

The dream team is an interesting comparison as it shows that in defence in particular,  opening fixtures can be a lottery. All four of the dream team’s backline were away from home, with tough fixtures in some cases.

Among 2017/18 defences this may mean we should consider Swansea away to Southampton and Stoke away to Everton. Both are the sort of away fixtures that may cause an upset.

We swerved Arsenal v Liverpool entirely in our XI at the start of last season. Too tough to call we thought. But with a 4-3 scoreline to the Reds, with Coutinho excelling, perhaps we should be backing players in tough to call clashes more often.

Could a Leicester attacker against Arsenal away prosper next season? This very well may be next season’s high scoring opening day clash.

3-5-2 may once again be profitable

The Dream Team was a 3-5-2 with all five midfielders scoring double digit returns and not a single attacker managing the same feat. This was something eagle eyed FPL managers picked up on quickly. Could the same happen again in 2017/18?

New players to the Premier League can prosper

Laughably with hindsight we didn’t back Zlatan Ibrahimovic as he was new to the Premier League. He outscored our choice of Vardy and carried on doing so for most of the season, in spite of his brief goal drought in early autumn. Should Manchester United bring in Alvaro Morata or another new face, with proven pedigree on a big stage, the chances are we won’t be as wary again.

Be cautious about pre-season performance

Watford Etienne Capoue sits in the dream team, laughing away at us for not backing him in our Picks. We backed him all pre-season after seeing him take on a more attacking role in friendlies but failed to back him in our Scout Picks. He didn’t even make the bench.

On the flip side we did back Tadic, who also did well in pre-season, but he let us down.

This proves that pre-season can be a useful guide but proceed with caution before believing a strong performance in friendlies can lead to a strong start to the season.

Champions don’t always prosper

How did the England Rugby team do after winning the World Cup? Or Andy Murray this year after his incredible 2016? Or Chelsea after they won the league in 2014/15? We know the answer – they were terrible. Nevertheless we still tripled up on assets from champions Leicester, who, guess what, were also awful last season.

This may lead us to temper interest in Chelsea early on next season. Granted they play Burnley at home in Gameweek 1, but as we saw with last season being champions does not necessarily mean they will once again prosper. History suggests a Chelsea triple up may disappoint us after Gameweek 1 next season.

J0E Podcaster and writer. Tweets stats and stuff via @FFScout_Joe Follow them on Twitter

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  1. J0E
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    6 years, 9 months ago

    I don't know about anyone else, but I always have an average start to a FPL season. Last season I got 50 - just about the average. The Scout Picks did even worse.

    Next season I'm determined to do better so thought I'd take a look at what went right or wrong at the start of last season via the picks.

    Hope you find this useful. the lessons around formation, fixtures and champions so often failing after their success I think could very well carry on into 2017/18.

    1. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Brilliant article Jonty. I was making a list of lessons myself. All of the ones you mentioned are there in it. And I too didn't back IBRA like you for the same reason. Scored 51 in gameweek 1.

      1. J0E
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        Cheers. Obviously it would be great to go back several years to see if the same lessons apply.

        But overestimating the ability of champions to do well, as well as being so strict about fixtures, are two recurring themes in my experience.

        3-5-2 could be a new one....keen eyes on the GWK 1 dream team next season.

        I'll personally be urging against doubling or tripling up on Chelsea GWK 1. We were so confident Leicester would turn Hull over.

        1. Dreams
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yes. Mahrez and vardy trolled us hard. Another one of my lessons was not to fill up the team with last season's stars without assessing them properly. Ex: Firmino, Alli and Vardy.
          Preseason is a double edged sword. While you regret missing on Capoue, I regret bringing in Fischer. And the biggest lesson. Don't trust Jonny Evans.

          1. Dreams
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            And not to mention the famous Heaton and Foster rotation backfiring in the first two gameweeks.

            1. J0E
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              It sort of did - but Heaton ultimately paid that back with those save points. I like that GWK 1 gave us that information, even though Foster surprisingly outscored him.

              And yes - don't trust Jonny Evans. I always get him in - he (and McAuley's hairline) always let me down.

              I was there for Evans goal though - I'll always have that. 🙂

              1. Dreams
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                +1 for the Evans goal. I was also one of the benefactors of football's Halley's comet.

        2. RedLightning
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          6 years, 9 months ago

          Leicester and Chelsea were two very different kinds of champions.

          Leicester's success was a complete surprise to everyone, and we all knew they were extremely unlikely to make a serious challenge for a second title. But their loss to Hull, who appeared to be in complete disarray, was an equally big surprise.

          Chelsea, however, are nearly always in the title hunt, and often make a strong start. Their disastrous season in 2015/16 was almost entirely due to Jose Mourinho's mismanagement, starting with insufficient preparation pre-season and followed by his appalling treatment of Eva Carneiro. It was no wonder that many of the club's senior players fell out with him. I suspect also that his mood was not helped by the strain of his father's health problems earlier in the year.

    2. Troopon
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      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed. My start is always average. Some punts work and others don't.

      I had Townsend, Friend and Tadic at the start but also had Ibra, Aguero and Hazard. I avoided Leicester altogether. Eriksen was really poor to start with too and I had him. There seem to be a lot of 50/50 calls so just gotta trust your research and hope most punts work.

      I Never had Heaton either and had Foster for most of the season without investing in other baggies defenders.

      I think it's best to be wary of promoted teams. They are generally full of beans their first few games, especially at home and make it a tough game. I also think defence requires most attention. My initial transfers are almost always attack based so having a decent defensive selection means you can concentrate on those.

      That being said the scount picks is a one week pick. You aren't really selecting your initial team for gameweek 1. You tend to have players that you believe are a) season long expensive picks. b) Season long bargains c) Fixture based punts you plan on swapping through the season.

      1. J0E
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        Indeed, the picks are just for one week - that's why I included some information about how they did over the first few weeks and season too.
        Eg - Gray flopped, but then double digited - but ultimately that GWK 1 performance was an indicator.

    3. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      That story resonates with me too, Jonty. I always seem to get off the mark very very slowly and find myself in catch up. I definitely overthink at the beginning and can't seem to, akin to you, break the 50 mark on gw1 when all my more casual mates who didn't really think on it get 70-80+ and have a week of bragging about it in the ML (I often have to copy paste "it's a marathon not a sprint")

      Sigh.. let's see. I feel like heightened involvement this year with the pod/blog might mean I overthink again and get an abysmal gw1 score 😀

      1. J0E
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        A word of warning for all Fantasy Football podcasters - don't make transfers because they make more interesting copy.

        I did that last season and it really backfired. 🙂

        1. Individual
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Ha I won't do that, I'm a dullard player too at heart.

          I do have a penchant for an obscure gamble (Zaza last year comes to mind) but as a follower of your descent into the millionaires club I'm going to learn those lessons!

      2. 6thGoal
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Completely agree Individual! However I feel it gives a manager a confidence boost to start the season stronger. This "false" (maybe) confidence could help promote stronger, short term decisions.While a marathon, it helps to get off to a good start. For me 60 points is what I was hoping for as a "good start" and continuing that average over the course of the season.

        1. Individual
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Oh man I'd love 60+ on opening day. I'll try my damnedest to get it but I hugely doubt it. You're right, it's a massive confidence boost. Ugh #pray

    4. FPL ZB
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      6 years, 9 months ago

      Feghouli/ Mandanda/ Mikhi/ Friend/ Sagna really did hurt me over those first two weeks before I wildcarded them away forever

    5. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This is the first year I have been "active" on any sort of forum during the off season. Also the first time I have spent money, well spent I must add, to get the "members only" information. Can't speculate how it will turn out. Based on last year, I favored many decisions based on the weekly scout cast. Hopefully, here in the US we can catch some of the pre-seasons matches, however I am not to confident the footy network out here will cover any of those matches.

      Like most managers I have a list of players I desire, a list of the schedules and favored match ups. Yet each year has been a learning experience. Even after 35 year of fantasy (American) football I was still learning. Being flexible to the ever changing conditions, be it a run of form, injury, whatever.

      As for the start last season, 59 in GW1; Foster, Mahrez, Aguero and Zlatan were the bright spots. Appreciate the thoughts, Jonty!

      1. J0E
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        We will be covering all the pre season games to keep everyone up to date with the top performers.

        Top performers in friendlies can end up disappointing - but when you get the rare gem it feels great. Just ask Michu owners and those that actually played Capoue last season.

        Good luck!

      2. electrue
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        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah the members area is awesome. The ability to compare players and make custom tables is great. I feel like I've wasted so many transfers last year. Optimistic about this season tho. 🙂

    6. FPL Virgin
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      Absolutely brilliant. This is high quality stuff. I'm not sure why it is only a community article, though. Needs more exposure.

      1. RedLightning
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        Community Articles do get quite a lot of exposure. Those who fail to check the Articles tab in the right hand column for the latest ones are missing out on a lot of good stuff.

        And one of the best things about them is that the discussions remain on topic, unlike the replies to the Main Articles.

    7. jonnoinnit
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      6 years, 9 months ago

      Last season, I got off to my best ever start: OR 3,722 at the end of GW4. However, 6 red arrows in a row over the next 6 GWs meant I spent the rest of the season vacillating in the 150k - 350k region, ultimately ranking at 98k after a strong finish. I good start can help, but it doesn't take long to squander a decent advantage...

    8. RedLightning
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      The Scout Picks didn't actually do worse than your 50 - add 9 points for captaining Aguero and their score becomes 51.

    9. harvard
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Which usually has a higher score? The game week average or the game week rank 1million team?

  2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Great article, Jonty - and amusing! 🙂

    I had an even worse start than usual last Season - 24pts!

    I compounded that by hanging on, when hits galore were required.

    This Season, I am back to my hits budget of 16 over 4GWs.

    1. J0E
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      Cheers.

      Yes, I'd hoped people would enjoy having a laugh at our bold and ultimately flawed claims 🙂

      The Vardy over Ibra one in particular.

  3. goriuanx
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    6 years, 9 months ago

    Ownership, ownership, ownership.

    1. J0E
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      I think over the season that can pay off but for GWK 1 there are genuinely 3m+ playing - most of who will just get players from a team they support.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        V true

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Dullard.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Far from it, I sold Sanchez for a hit before Hull at home

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Balls of steel

  4. GreenWindmill
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    I got 62 points in GW1 for a 190k rank. I didn't actually improve much on that all season!

    At least I avoided Leicester 😎

    Actually, just checked back and I didn't own a Leicester player all season 😯 Can't imagine I've ever done that with a previous championship winning team!

    1. J0E
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      Luckily for us Chelsea have a strong GWK 1 but then it tails off. That should ensure that if they follow the likes of the England Rugby side, Leicester and Chelsea themselves - we are all not that badly burnt.

      Among Chelsea players I'll be looking at value and think Pedro may offer it early on with Hazard out. Will be watching pre-season.

      I'm not interested in a 7-.7.5 defender like Alonso early on.

      1. GreenWindmill
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        Pedro is going to be very popular round here, along with a defender if one comes in cheaper than the others (probably not though).

        Wonder who will be in the team instead of Hazard who could present a bargain. Willian?

        1. J0E
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          Unless there are dramatic new recruits I'd imagine it'll be Pedro and Willian flanking whoever they get in to replace Costa.

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        I believe that Chelsea will do very well. Just my opinion. 😀

        1. FPL Kangaroo
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          Chelsea have the easiest start of anyone, bar Spurs, on your ticker right 😉

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            Yep. But I don't rate the teams in the same way as you do.

            All to do with their listed performances.

  5. bojack
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    6 years, 9 months ago

    I've noticed a few people mentioning double or even triple Southampton and double WBA. Southampton's fixtures certainly are tempting, but I can see it all backfiring.

    I can see West Ham causing an upset at OT on the opening day as well.

    1. J0E
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      That's exactly the right mindset to have- expect the unexpected.

      Yes southampton have good fixtures - but new faces, new manager makes them an unknown. I'm keen on one Saint but no more.

      Same with WBA - attacking defender like Dawson - that's it. Pulis doesn't do strikers. If Rodriguez joins and does well I'll get him in then - but not from the off.

      1. Hotdog
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        Will you be getting Lukaku if he goes to Chelsea jonty?

        1. J0E
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          Not sure. Currently prefer Kane - pens, main man, nailed on or a City attacker as my two expensive strikes.

          Lukaku maybe v Burnley from the off - but I'm not sure I'd want him long term.

          There is actually the possibility that in Hazard's absence he'll be on pens.

          I'll be watching pre-season for sure.

          1. Hotdog
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            Is Spurs moving to Wembley not concerning?

            1. J0E
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              Yes, which is why I'm not going Spurs crazy. Kane away to Newcastle looks captain material to me.

      2. Andy_Social
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        For me, GW1 tends to bring up a lot of unexpected outcomes - top clubs getting off to poor starts, unfavoured ones pulling out a surprise before most of the teams revert o mean.

        Therefore, the take away is don't over react.If your premium defender concedes a couple at home and your primary striker blanks don't panic. Equally, Capoue's don't pop up every year - if a 4.5 chap bags an opening day goal he might not be all that - like Boro's Struani last time out - looked an exciting bargain for a moment but his moment in the spotlight was short-lived.

      3. bojack
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Agree re: WBA. Dawson is about the limit of it. They don't really do clean sheets that much and McAuley is about the same age as Chris Hughton.

        People planning to get Heaton at some point could do worse than starting with him if that game at Chelsea ends up 0-0.

    2. Alternative Music Show
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I think another advantage of avoiding too much doubling or tripling is spreading one's bets a little. I think I might try that out. I'll have the main players such as Kane, but with the first gameweek proving so unpredictable I'm wary of another Leicester mishap (was burned by that myself).

      Covering Man United, Liverpool and Chelsea looks like a good option to me, e.g. Pedro, Pogba and Lallana if affordable.

  6. J0E
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    I've made a table to go with this for Members.

    Looking at GWK 1 2016/17's underlying attacking stats.

    Top name ended up being a great pick - the signs were there early on.

    http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/view/19185/

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      The presence of Lamela gravely undermines the undoubted usefulness of this excellent table! 😉

      1. J0E
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        He was injured pretty swiftly after that! How can he do well when his legs are in plaster? 🙂

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          About as well as when his legs are free of plaster!!! 😆

          1. J0E
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            Ha, true! 🙂

    2. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Oh boy. Very interesting.

      I am thinking of jumping into 3-5-2 as per last season but that kind of thing does make you think. All will change once the prices are out I'm sure.

    3. RedLightning
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      One game-week is far too short a time to base anything much on.

      Numbers 2, 3 and 7 in your table were my biggest scorers in GW1, but they didn't all go on to have great seasons.

      Number 1 only scored one goal in the first 12 game-weeks, though he did improve after that.

  7. The Rumour Mill
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Fascinating article Jonty, thank you for this! Definitely some lessons to be taken from last season 🙂

    My own GW1 was quite interesting, I actually had a cracking start to FPL last season, 65 points, but it was the ultimate case of fool's gold! They did well enough to give me faith, but went on to be dreadful players for the rest of the season. It would have been better if they had just bombed to be honest!

    The roll call:

    Schmeichel - 2 points. He and Leicester were awful until late on in the season.
    Amat - 5 points. This was one of 2 clean sheets he got all season!
    VVD - 1 point. Covered in Jonty's article
    Azpilicueta - 5 points. A rare good, sustainable pick from me there!
    Mahrez - His 8 points here included the only goal he scored in the first 11 gameweeks.
    Lamela - 9 points. The only goal he scored all season.
    Oscar - 2 points. Packaged off the China soon after.
    Tadic - 2 points, covered above.
    Martial - 11 points. 1 of 3 double digit hauls, the next didn't arrive until gw25, and he spent most of the intervening time on the bench.
    Aguero, Gray - 9,2 covered above.

    1. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Wow you really nailed GWK 1. I think alot of those picks long term failure though were down to unfortunate circumstances - like injuries and rotation.

      Does show that well owned players often don't prosper. You are certainly the only managr I've seen with Lamela, Oscar and Tadic in their opening side from last season.

      1. The Rumour Mill
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers 🙂 Yeah looking back my whole team structure was quite unusual, both in terms of playing 3-5-2 (which turned out to be wise), and investing so much in midfield over attack - 41m v 24.5m. And yeah I felt myself a little unfortunate really.

        Haha guess I was feeling quite maverick last summer! 😛 One further lesson this has triggered in my head is how form does not carry over from the end of the previous season into the next. Martial was excellent at the end of 2015/2016, as was Tadic and Lamela. However this didn't carry very far into the next season.

        Lamela was also seemingly excellent value, 7.0 m for a nailed number 10 playing in a superb attacking spurs side. Shame about his hip injury.

  8. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I had Mahrez & Vardy and then Kingsley & Amat, looking for a Leicester haul against Hull and a Swansea clean-sheet against Hull.

    *I certainly won't be betting against one team so much at the start of this season.*

    It's not all about GW1 either - I got 74 points in GW1 last season, even though I had a defence of Souare, Friend, Kingsley (Amat, Tarkowski) - but it went downhill quickly.

    Swansea had two starting 4.0 defenders against bur & HUL, it 'had' to be done - unfortunately Hull started better than expected and those defenders only managed a point each in GW2. GW3 was a disaster (Friend didn't play) and the (albeit planned) wildcard was activated.

    Don't underestimate promoted sides...

    1. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Early on is the best time for promoted sides. They have the element of surprise - are high on confidence and fitness levels as they will not have Europe.

      Later in the season is where they tail off - as fatigue and thinner squads take effect.

      Ritchie, Knockaert, Dunk/Ryan/Gomez all on my radar.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yep, good point - they all have pretty decent fixtures this year too which helps.

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      or at least don't form a large part of your team around that underestimation...I put all my eggs in the 'Hull are turd' basket and it backfired. I also had Tadic AND Redmond!? Maybe the lesson here is actually to spread risk..

  9. Pulp Minion
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Normally I have a really bad start but last season I got off to a flyer with GW ranks of ~50k and ~86k
    So much so I rolled transfers with first transfer for GW 3 and a my first hit (-4) for a mini refresh in GW 4

    Ibra, Aguaro and Hazard helped.

  10. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    The point The Rumour Mill made about 'Fool's Gold' is a great one - could a great GW1 actually be a 'bad' thing?

    Players like Redmond, Martial, Mahrez, Negredo, dare I say Ibrahimovic, looked like decent picks before the season and performed well in GW1 (and some for GW2) but then went weeks without anything. Could a good GW1 put the blinkers on, make you think you were 'right' about their prospects before the season, and then keep those players for much too long and ignore better options as a result?

    1. The Rumour Mill
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'd never turn down the points haha, but you're right; it can easily lead you into thinking you've cracked it, you relax, and that's when the game gets away from you. I think the skill comes in identifying those players whose points are sustainable, blending FPL points with good underlying stats. I did get rid of Martial for example after GW2, after also seeing his 2 assists in GW1 were pure flukes and he wasn't actually creating much!

      Of course at the start of the season there is less data to base this on, which is what for me makes the first few weeks of the season so tough imo. It doesn't help when the stats fail you either (e.g. Capoue scoring at an unsustainable rate, Ibra not scoring at an unsustainable rate), or in my case, when 2 of your 3 strikers miss penalties in one gameweek.....

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah the Martial one is a good example, flukey returns must be treated with suspicion! I think with players like Ibra you've got to keep reminding yourself how much of your budget they are taking up, and change accordingly. Players like him should have fairly predicable point scoring and be capable of big hauls, if that isn't happening then it's time to go.

        1. The Rumour Mill
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Thats very true, what I should have done at that point is switch to Lukaku, who was doing both those things you mention 😛 At least I wasn't alone, I seem to remember Jonty and Andy holding on to him far too long aswell!

  11. Phil Dagger ⭐
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I scored 64 in GW 1. First season n ol and I Actually started with Firmino Mane Coutinho in the first GW with my one friend calling me are you crazy? they are up against Arsenal. But I just said Liverpool will score 2-3 I dont care they will be in goals.

    Firmino (hit the post) But Mane and Delivered brilliantly. Also had redmond. Aguero (C)

    Defence was shambles I think. Kane got 2 points but I immediately changed him to Ibra the next gameweek wth FT who got 13 points vs Southampton while kane Floundered.

    1. Ramboros
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Did you happen to be rank 1 for 15 consecutive weeks?

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        why? No Mate 🙂

        1. Ramboros
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          He started with Coutinho, Mané and Firmino.

          1. Phil Dagger ⭐
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            oooh Interesting. I had no Liverpool player in the last 10-12 GWs then 😆

            Just shows how mindset changes during the season

    2. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Enjoyed Lukaku hatty then .
      After that I found FFS . Get to know about different things . Started taking hits for price rises and playing risky game as I was so much ahead from rivals. Floundered due to it. Didn't stop taking hits as I got used to nailing them right. And in the end Won all my MLS and H2H.

      Brilliant Journey.

      One time I took an -4/-8 . Then realised I want sanchez and sacrificed the player I took the hit for to get money.
      Sanchez (C) Scored 46 that week. Coutinho was injured I think that time ans he was the transfer out.

      Had many great moments. Loved my First season thoroughly

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        also cant forget
        Firmino to Eriksen -4 around GW 13-14 I guess where he would go on a great run of points.
        Eriksen never left my team since. Remained until the end 😀

  12. The Rumour Mill
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I'd never turn down the points haha, but you're right; it can easily lead you into thinking you've cracked it, you relax, and that's when the game gets away from you. I think the skill comes in identifying those players whose points are sustainable, blending FPL points with good underlying stats. I did get rid of Martial for example after GW2, after also seeing his 2 assists in GW1 were pure flukes and he wasn't actually creating much!

    Of course at the start of the season there is less data to base this on, which is what for me makes the first few weeks of the season so tough imo. It doesn't help when the stats fail you either (e.g. Capoue scoring at an unsustainable rate, Ibra not scoring at an unsustainable rate), or in my case, when 2 of your 3 strikers miss penalties in one gameweek.....

    1. The Rumour Mill
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      reply fail

    2. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      That's how I felt after I activated my WC last season for GW4. A string of green arrows and good weeks bumped me to 29k, highest OR that I had ever seen. I even commented on it in a post on my site, which probably jixed myself, about having this game licked. Unfortunately the next 20 game weeks I saw just 5 green arrows. Thankfully finished with 10 out of 12 green arrows.

  13. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    AOA gw1, WC gw2

  14. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I started FPL last season so well! Was 12th Overall on the Saturday & Top 400 for that GW, but stupidly played my WC that GW in the hope of going even higher. My plan failed miserably so won't be making the same mistake this season that's for sure

  15. Essan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Don't think I have ever finished GW1 inside the top 1m .... One of these days I'll get it right though!~

    That said, I suppose a good early score puts a lot more pressure on you, to maintain a high position, than a poor(ish) score but with the knowledge you have plenty of time to make up the points (as you usually do)?

    1. SAY MY NAME
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      for once i'd like to have a good first few gameweeks - i always come strong 2nd half of the season, but it would nice to actually build a solid lead early and build on it

  16. SAY MY NAME
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    The wait for new FPL season is intolerable, hurry up and start already!

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This X 100.

  17. A.T
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Good stuff. A good start is essential before the template kicks in if you're to achieve a great end of season rank. Unfortunately I never seem to get one!
    One thing I'm considering this season is not to stat with anyone with a poor history that may have had a good pre season and convinced myself he's worth a punt. The likes of Lamela or Townsend spring to mind. Instead I might go for something I've been against in the past and punt on a new foreign import. Who that's going to be I've no idea as yet. 🙂

  18. 6thGoal
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Mulling over defensive stats I decided to look at how many clean sheets were recorded during the first 3 game weeks over the last 5 years. At the top of the heap, Arsenal, recording 7 CS out of 15 games. Just a single CS in each of the last 4 years during the first games weeks. Need to go back to the 2012/13 season when they started the year with 3 CS in a row.

    Tied with 6 CS a piece we have six teams; Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man United and West Ham. Man United has been the most consistent over the last 2 years recording 5 CS out of a possible 6 fixtures. Liverpool had no CS to start last term, but in 2015/16 started on 3 CS. West Ham hasn't been too solid the last 2 years, just 2 CS to start the season.

    Man City, Swansea City and West Brom all had 5 CS over that same period, while Newcastle had 4 CS.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      What's the conclusion?

    2. 6thGoal
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nothing really jumped out as being spectacular. Thought the numbers might be a bit more conclusive but that wasn't the case. With talk is So'ton starting with nice fixtures thought there might be some early season trend for any number of teams.

  19. RedLightning
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I scored 53 in GW1, and my squad wasn't too bad really apart from the absence of Heaton, Zlatan and Capoue.

    But I looked at the teams leading the Top 10k Any Season mini-league after GW1 and thought that they had somehow struck on the ideal formation for the season, whereas in reality they had merely had better luck in GW1 than other equally good teams lower down the league.

    So I panicked and played my Wildcard in GW2, which soon led to a long downward spiral.

    Instead I should have stayed calm and just taken a 4 point hit in GW2 to bring in Zlatan and Capoue.

    So one of the lessons I re-learnt last season was the advice given in The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Universe: DON'T PANIC!

    1. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Good advice.

  20. Philip Jones's Diary
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I started the season ranked 300k, then consistently dropped until GW17 where I hit 662K. I managed to finish 20,188 after a good second half. I want to improve on that this season and it is obvious that a good first 5-10 weeks is vital. My issue last season was that I payed too much attention on pre season form (Tadic, Oscar and Gray) and not enough on fixtures. Hopefully that is the key....

    1. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      The opening few games are really tricky - its why so many wildcard GWK 4-6.

      The best thing you can do is set up a team that has good fixtures for the first 5 GWK or so and then make obvious transfers - eg injury or players emerging and then reassess if its gone wrong.

      GWK 1 is tough to nail down but by looking at five gwks in advance at least you have a fighting chance.

      Also worth mentioning that promoted teams can do better at the start and that top stars (with a busy summer) may start slow - eg Sanchez and Kane in previous seasons.

      1. Philip Jones's Diary
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I completely agree. it will be interesting to see what first week teams are like considering some of the bigger teams have some tricky matches early on. Southampton assets will be big.

  21. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    My opening punt for the first few GWs was to rotate formations between 3-5-2 and 3-4-3, and as I felt it was a strong opening team I played 2-5-3 with my AOA chip, leaving Stones, Amat and Smith on the bench.

    GK - Forster (2 pts) - I liked the initial SOT fixtures and thought he would be a cheap way in. Rotated well with Jakupovic (3 pts), who I benched.
    DF 1&2 - Valencia (2 pts) and Shaw (2 pts) almost got the CS, but were great over the next few weeks.
    MF 1&2&3 - Sanchez (2 pts), Eriksen (2 pts) and Firmino (2 pts) - transferred out Sanchez and Eriksen in GW3 (ouch....).
    MF 4&5 - Hazard (10 pts) & Redmond (10 pts), who would have been benched had I not played AOA, so lucked out.
    FD 1&2&3 - Gray (2 pts), Vardy as Captain (4 pts) and Carroll (2 pts) - Vardy as captain turned out to be a mistake but the fixture was too tempting.
    Total 40 points

    After the first two GWs I felt that 3-5-2 just wouldn't work and I transferred out Sanchez and Eriksen in order to finance getting Aguero and Zlatan....which proved to be a complete disaster! I should have stuck to my guns, lesson learned hopefully for this season.

  22. @FPL_Chess
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Hopefully adding to the theme of 'A good start in FPL' and considering Jonty’s earlier comment that lots of players Wildcard in GWs 4-6, I think I’ve found a reason why this makes sense. As you know, one transfer a week, carried over means two transfers every two weeks – a good way to play if you can wait a week and someone isn’t bright red and tumbling in price.

      So no transfers before GW2 is two transfers before GW3. Now if you WC in the International break before GW4, you’d do no transfers before GW5, two before GW6, none before GW7, and (importantly) two in the International break before GW8; and following that trend you’d also get two transfers in the next International break before GW12. Perfect.

      But, if you tried to hang on and not play the WC before GW4, it plays out as: two before GW3, none (importantly) in the International break before GW4, two before GW5, none before GW6, two before GW7, and (importantly) none in the International break before GW8; unless you play your WC. But you still lost out on the max two transfers in the 1st International break, and if you hang on to the WC until the 3rd International break, you’re out of sequence for maximum transfers in the International breaks before the 4th and 8th GW’s.

      The only way out of this conundrum as I see it is passing over the two transfers before GW3 to the International break in GW4 – this would allow you a single transfer before GW2 – might not be a bad thing… but you’d lose out on a transfer. Please advise if my reasoning is flawed.

    • Az
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Top article Jonty! Essential reading before the start of the season and really shows how tricky it is to get points in GW1.

      I have started poorly for the last 3 years and have wildcarded twice before GW3 in that time. Really hoping to avoid a repeat of that this time around!