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The Numbers Game – Southampton

Next up in our summer series of members’ articles, offering in-depth team-by-team analysis are Southampton. A side that carry extra significance ahead of the new campaign given their exceptionally kind early fixtures.

To get underway, we’ll analyse performance at a team level and attempt to spot trends or improvements. We then delve into the player data, analysing the key individuals as we scour for potential targets ahead of next month’s Gameweek 1 deadline.

In addition, we’ll also focus on any specific periods of interest brought about by tactical changes or breakout Fantasy performances – in this case we’ll focus on the Saints’ home/away displays, investigating a trend that saw them score just 17 goals in front of their own supporters.

Southampton finished in sixth spot under Ronald Koeman back in 2015/16 – a total of 63 points was just three points behind Manchester City in fourth. But the Dutchman’s decision to move to Everton proved detrimental to their prospects, with replacement Claude Puel struggling to maintain those standards.

Despite claiming eight place, Southampton bagged just 46 points and found the net on 41 occasions – a tally that bettered only the bottom five and well behind the 59 strikes under Koeman.

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  1. MOBAFFILIATED
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Actually feeling really good about this. Think I'm gonna stick with it...at least for a few days

    Foster / Begovic
    Milner / Tripp / Cedric (Tomkins / Mee)
    Mane / Alli / Zaha / Ritchie (Carroll)
    Jesus / Lacazette / Rashford

    Assuming of course Mane, Milner, and Ritchie are good to go for the start of the season

    1. davidtbo
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I would be afraid to go without Kane. Rashford = rotation risk.
      Not sure about Milner, find 0,5 somewhere to get Alonso

    2. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Not afraid of the competition now for Milner?

    3. The Sherwinator
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I think at least having Kane or Lukaku are essentials. They're in most teams, Lukaku in almost half. So when they score, most of your rivals score. They're also capable of scoring double figures, and that makes them ideal for your captain. Jesus and Lacazette are probably your best captain choices, but if Aguero plays, Jesus might not play central and pushed to the wing, unless they play 4-4-2. Hopefully Lacazette doesn't need time to adjust to the premier league, but like Aguero, Giroud might take up a central striking role from what I've seen in pre-season. They'll still score, but not as many if they're not playing as the main striker. Rashford is also not the main striker and a rotational risk, and although Mourinho is looking at playing him with Lukaku, time will only tell if he sticks to it as he usually plays with one striker over the years. Overall I think your team is good. I had most of them in a few of my drafts too, it just comes down to your preference I guess.

  2. b91jh
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    A) JRod+KDB
    B) Laca/Jesus+Ward Prowse
    C) Chicharito+Sane

    Thoughts??

    1. Silva’s Left Nut
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      C for me no question

    2. davidtbo
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      A

    3. Chelsea222
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      B with Jesus

  3. davidtbo
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Hi guys !
    What do you think of this 4-3-3 team ? Thx

    Foster (Elliot)
    Yoshida-Trippier-Dawson-Daniel (Hunemeier)
    Alli-Wilian-Zaha (Carroll-RLC)
    Jesus-Kane-Lukaku

    1. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Very Tottenham heavy. They must hit the ground running for this to work. First few game weeks are madness. Tripling up on a team is a high risk strategy. But go for it if you strongly believe they will start better than the other top teams.

    2. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I noticed that you have also doubled up on West brom defence. Again very risky.

      1. davidtbo
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Thx mate. What would you do ?
        Alli -> salah/cout
        Dawson -> ?

    3. Freddo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Nothing wrong with triple Tottenham, they are not quite West Brom or Southampton plus each player is dynamic enough to score points in any game.

      Dawson and Yoshida could probably do with tweaking or change Foster.

  4. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    GL to all in DZ. heading home and will be on BST for two weeks. And horror of horrors I think I will be travelling for most of Friday and Saturday when season starts. 🙁

    Anyway hope ye kick of the season in style and thanks for all the advice and replies to multiple RMTs 🙂

    1. ScotDougie
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Where's home and where you now mate

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Off home to Ireland been in Canada 3 years and not been home for 2 years.

  5. The Man Pastore
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    If Rashford is nailed, I like the look of this team :

    Foster
    Alonso Trippier Francis
    Alli Salah Willian Mooy
    Kane Jesus Rashford

    Bench: Elliot Carroll Dunk 4.0

    What do you think?

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone?

    2. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Not so sure about Mooy. I'd rather have Ince or Phillips. However, the tram looks decent - you're almost there I think.

    3. nisag17
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      If Rashford is indeed nailed he is a brilliant pick. Team looks good. Except that like many you have three Tottenham players, which I feel is risky to start the season.

    4. IWR
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Looks strong

    5. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks all

  6. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Steady Jamaica!

  7. Live Lad
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Foster
    Alonso, Trippier, Bertrand
    Alli, Coutinho, Willian, Ince
    Kaku, Aguero, J Rod
    Bench: 4.0 keeper, Carroll, Rangel, Lascelles
    Please help. Thanks!

    1. davidtbo
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      No kane but I like your team

      1. Live Lad
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks.

    2. thorvaldsson
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Do you really think that defense is warranted? It looks nice but clean sheets are still unpredictable a lot of people seem to forget that on this site.

      1. Live Lad
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Not really. Unsure over Alonso TBH. Having Daniels allows me to have 2.0 to upgrade elsewhere.

        1. thorvaldsson
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          I like Alonso if anything I would downgrade Trippier and Bertrand to 5M defenders to shave off a clean 1M

          1. The Man Pastore
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Or only Bertrand and do a 4.5/4.5 rotation for your 3rd def spot?

            1. Live Lad
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              I will look into it. thanks.

          2. nisag17
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Bertrand and Trippier are very good value at 5.5. Yes, clean sheets and attacking points for full backs are unpredictable but not that much. They both will score much more than any 5.0 pick. Where will you put that 1.0 in attack to justify that lost value.

            1. Live Lad
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Ince to Zaha maybe. But like you said I think Bertrand and Trippier will score will this season.

    3. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Too much money in defense for me. Not sure about JRod either. The rest looks good.

      1. Coaly
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Why aren't you sure on J-Rod?

        Likely to start regardless of formation, good goal scorer, good fixtures

    4. The Sherwinator
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Personally, I'd try to upgrade at least one or both J Rod and Ince since they'll be in your starting 11 without rotation. If you can get 0.5, You can get Austin/Gayle, and with 1 you can look at Chicharito in place of J Rod. Ince to a Redmond/Tadic for 0.5, or for 1 Zaha/Ramsey/Lanzini. Hopefully pre-season will show who will be starters. Bertrand to Cedric will not have you lose out on clean sheets as Southampton has good opening fixtures, you may get less assists and bonus points than Bertrand in the long run. The same can be done with Alonso for an alternative Chelsea defender.

      1. Coaly
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Do you think Chicarito and Austin are better shouts than J-Rod?

        West ham first two away and Austin not assured of starting

        1. The Sherwinator
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          I could be very wrong, I just don't expect much from J Rod

      2. Live Lad
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks mate. I can do defensive downgrades. Bertrand to Cedric and/or Trippier to Daniels. Ince to Zaha in mind. Really not sure about my 3rd striker spot even if I have 7.0 to spend.

  8. The Man Pastore
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Pick one:

    A) Kane + Jesus
    B) Lukaku + Aguero

    1. thorvaldsson
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. davidtbo
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Hard one... A) maybe

    3. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I've got B with Eriksen

      1. seewhyaxe
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        same here

  9. MichysFlow
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Begovic (Elliot)
    Bailly Trippier Alonso Otamendi Cedric
    Willian Eriksen Redmond (J.Murphy) (RLC)
    Morata Kane (Chicharito)

  10. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Jesus Agüero KDB all playing nice!

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Can't watch the game... 🙁

    2. MichysFlow
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      how do you know this

      1. thorvaldsson
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I live in America and I'm watching it right now!

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          I'm in Cambodia and I'm watching it right now 😉

          1. thorvaldsson
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            This is also fair

            1. Twelve years a slave
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              In NZ, great view of match

  11. waldo666
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    No commentary for RM vs City?!!

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      What I was wondering lol Strange match

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      American commentators suddenly realised they got the wrong football code and are mugging up on the lingo?

      1. waldo666
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        hahaha could be!

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        ah, voices!

    3. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      There we go

    4. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      ah good, was freaking me out a little

  12. Birds of Prey
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    How much have y'all spent on defense?
    Since adding Alonso I'm at 33.0, feels about right.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      30m on my back 5

    2. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      34 here

      1. The Man Pastore
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        25.5 for the back 5 without GKs

    3. ScotDougie
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      24.5 back 5

      1. IWR
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        5.5 5.0 5.0 4.5 4.0

    4. IWR
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      24m on my back five

    5. InvertedWinger
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      8.5 + 7 + 5.5 + 5.5 + 4.5 + 4
      So 35 for me. Back 7.

    6. The Sherwinator
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      25

  13. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Walker and Danilo playing! I want to see this wing play

  14. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    City back 3 Stones kompany Otamendi. No Sane yet!

  15. GoonerByron
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Surely City won't play this formation in the league?

    Would leave no place for wingers like Sane or Sterling..?

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Never know mate, it's Pep. Sane can also play in a central role as far as I know so...

    2. BananaNose Maldonado
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Sane could be the back-up to both Kun and Jesus. If he replaces Kun, Jesus moves to the middle up top.

  16. MichysFlow
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Begovic (Elliot)
    Bailly Trippier Alonso Otamendi Cedric
    Willian Eriksen Redmond (J.Murphy) (RLC)
    Morata Kane (Chicharito)

    RATE MY TEAM pls

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I don't like these 5-3-2 formations...

      1. ScotDougie
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        You've spent 34 mil in defence what's your backline / formation look like?

        1. ScotDougie
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Ah just saw your added comment was wondering lol

          1. The Man Pastore
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Lol. I don't think it is even possible to spend 34m on 5 defs

        2. The Man Pastore
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Looks like this for the moment :

          Foster
          Alonso Trippier Francis
          Alli Salah Willian Mooy
          Kane Jesus Rashford

          Bench: Elliot Carroll Dunk 4.0

    2. MichysFlow
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah playing 5ATB

  17. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Heyzuz and Jesus up front. Aguero not playing

    1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Troll.

  18. IWR
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone else still rolling the Kane Alli Trippier treble?

    I still just can't seem to drop any of them. Alli would be the first to if pressed but damn 9.5 is so tasty.

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      yep...

      1. IWR
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Alli is still nowhere near hitting his prime IMO. Just can't see myself going without him, can score in any fixture.

        1. The Man Pastore
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah agree

    2. Baron Saturday
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      You betcha

      1. Baron Saturday
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Have toyed with Alli out for Coutinho and Kane out for Aguero/Jesus, but just can't commit to either.

        1. IWR
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Exactly the same as me

          1. Baron Saturday
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Yep, we're on similar paths. Also considered KDB vs Coutinho vs Sane. Another tough decision.

    3. b✪mber
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Going with 0...

      1. IWR
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Surely you start one Spurs attacker? I'd be very fearful going without.

        1. b✪mber
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          I'm pretty confident in them struggling on Wembley and having a pretty awful start to the season.

      2. The Man Pastore
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Risky... What does your team look like?

        1. b✪mber
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          I don't like my team right now, so no point in showing it

        2. IWR
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Mine?

          Foster Elliot
          Trip Cedric Daniels (Mee 4.0)
          KDB Alli Willian Phillips (TC)
          Kane Lukaku Gayle

          A bit templatey but I'm attached to most of these guys now. Yours?

    4. BananaNose Maldonado
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Kane, Eriksen and Trippier for me. I don't really see the risk in it. Scored more than any side last season. Conceded fewer than any side last season. Have made practically no changes so there's no learning curve. And of the first eight fixtures, only Chelsea is a worry...and that's not a Stamford Bridge.

  19. bennyp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    City starting in a 3-5-2 with Kun & Jesus. Danillo at 5.5 as a wingback could be very good...

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mendy will come back and it will change

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Danilo doing well. Complicates things

  20. InvertedWinger
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Lukaku or Kane or both? (Or none aka AR YU CRAZY)

    1. IWR
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I have both. Would drop Lukaku first if I had to

  21. b✪mber
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    If I'm correct Danilo has more CL trophies than all of the other City players combined (Danilo 2 - City 1)

  22. CloudSky
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Jesus playing further up than Kun but both are pretty regularly dropping back to get the ball. KDB pretty dangerous so far from CM but it feels like he needs someone like Yaya behind him. WBs dont look nearly as attacking as Chelseas but playing a tough opponent so difference priority Id imagine.

    1. InvertedWinger
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks for this.

    2. IWR
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Legend

  23. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Heyzus has just been added to my team, different class

    1. Boydinho
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Isn't priced in the game.

      ADD HEYZUS FFS!

  24. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Aguero shot saved.

  25. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    KDB is a straight quarterback

  26. FFPro
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    This City formation could be FPL gold

    - Wingbacks
    - Jesus and Kun up top
    - KDB in the hole

    1. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Gold for their opponents

  27. Boydinho
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Yaya is class

  28. CloudSky
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Both GKs keeping the game level at nill.

    1. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      It like tonights earlier game, the Spanish side has more gears

      1. CloudSky
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        A lot of work still for Pep considering our players were on the beach a week ago.

    2. CloudSky
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Ederson already has more saves in this game than Bravo all season.

  29. That Was Easy!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Can someone tell me how the first 20 went? My ESPN here in Chicago had the Cubs/Soxs game on, so I wasn't able to see.

    1. CloudSky
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      City was more dangerous, decent chances for both Kun and GJ and some long shots from KDB. Since then it was more or less Madrid playing.

      1. That Was Easy!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Great, thank you!

      2. That Was Easy!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        How was Walker getting along?

        1. CloudSky
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Had one counter attack but other than that both WBs focusing mainly on defence and are nowhere near as offensive as Chelseas.

    2. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Cubs Sox more entertaining

  30. eamonhegg
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    HELP!!

    A - Javier Hernández Balcázar & Redmond

    B - Austin & Zaha/Ramsey

    THANKS!

    1. That Was Easy!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I'd go for B, I really like Rambo if he'll hold his spot, however Hernandez at 7.0 stirs the pot.

      1. eamonhegg
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah B is more appealing for the first 2/3 matches then i would like to switch to A!

        Still not sure