Selection

FPL Player List Analysis – Premium Defenders

This evening we roll out the fourth in our series of player list articles focusing on the Fantasy Premier League game.

Having assessed the goalkeepers, budget defenders and mid-price defenders, we now turn our attention to the backline options in the top bracket – costing 6.0 and over.

Certainly, for this sort of outlay, you would expect more than just the possibility of clean sheet returns, with added goal threat and an ability to bring in bonus points also major factors to consider.

In addition, rarely – if ever – would you wish to bench such a costly pick. Rotation is therefore off the table at this price point.

While many Fantasy managers will understandably be keen to seek out budget backline options, there is still potential value to be had in the more expensive bracket.

Last season, the three top scoring defenders in FPL, Chelsea trio Gary Cahill, Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta, all recorded at least 170 points – only eight midfielders and five forwards achieved such a feat.

With that in mind, and with the proliferation of wing-backs throughout the Premier League, the Premium defenders are enjoying something of a renaissance, with many FPL managers considering abandoning the accepted 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 tactic to start the season with a four-man backline.

Inevitably, we have to pay attention to fixtures when investing heavily in a defender.

Assessing the opening schedules, Manchester United’s Antonio Valencia has to be our among our early favoured options.

More expensive than team-mate Eric Bailly (6.5 to 6.0), the Ecuadorian faces just one of last year’s top six in the first nine Gameweeks (WHM swa LEI sto EVE sot CRY liv hud) and was utilised as a wing-back in the recent friendly win over LA Galaxy.

Valencia supplied 41 successful crosses – third among FPL defenders – and also registered 31 key passes, yet brought home a mere three assists.

Those numbers underline that he offers the greatest upside in a defence that chalked up 16 shut-outs in their first season under Jose Mourinho.

So far, though, only 6.5% have chosen to recruit Valencia, with David De Gea (27.3%) and Victor Lindelof (13.5%) proving far more popular at 5.5 apiece.

Over in the blue half of Manchester, City also have a kind opening batch of fixtures – Pep Guardiola’s side host Everton, Crystal Palace, Stoke City and Burnley and also travel to Brighton, Bournemouth, Watford and West Brom in the first 10 Gameweeks.

However, Vincent Kompany’s (6.0) ability to steer clear of injury is a major factor in our assessment of their defensive potential.

The Belgian played all but 14 minutes of the final eight fixtures of 2016/17 and delivered three goals, five clean sheets and six bonus points. If Pep Guardiola prioritises him for domestic matches to manage his fitness, we are confident that Kompany can eclipse new arrivals Kyle Walker and Benjamin Mendy (both 6.5) as the most profitable route into City’s backline.

Granted, Walker’s total of six assists was more than any other defender last term, but it remains to be seen if he’s employed in a wing-back role by Pep Guardiola.

Nonetheless, over 19.1% have snapped up Walker, while Mendy also has to be a consideration.

As our recent Scout Report revealed, Mendy’s delivery from the left flank was lauded at Monaco, and he has already talked up his ability to provide goals on his arrival at the Etihad.

However, with Mendy currently nursing an injury and with fellow new signing Danilo – priced at 5.5 – available as a rotation option, City’s full-backs both look vulnerable whereas Kompany surely plays when fit.

Six favourable matches (new BUR SWA whm hud BOU) in the first eight also strengthen Spurs’ chances of providing early returns.

Ultimately, though, Walker’s departure diminishes the appeal of his premium-priced former defensive team-mates Jan Vertonghen and Toby Alderweireld (both 6.0) along with Danny Rose (6.5), who remains an ongoing doubt with a long-term knee complaint.

Instead, the Walker transfer makes the 5.5-priced Kieran Tripper an almost irresistible prospect for points, both from clean sheets and assists.

Over 19.9% have now turned to the former Burnley man, who claimed five assists in just 12 outings last term. Meanwhile, Spurs recorded 17 clean sheets and conceded fewer goals (26) than any side in 2016/17.

It’s difficult to look beyond Trippier while Spurs continue to stall in strengthening in his position.

Across north London, having failed to claim a Champions League spot, many anticipate that Arsene Wenger will prioritise the Premier League and rest his Arsenal regulars when Europa League matches come around.

This could be good news for the Gunners’ defence as they seek to improve upon last season’s 13 clean sheets – down from 18 in 2015/16.

Laurent Koscielny, Hector Bellerin and Sead Kolasinac all come in at 6.0 apiece, with Bellerin currently the most popular of the three at 13.8% ownership.

Yet the Spaniard is arguably the least promising pick at present as he faces a battle with Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain for the right wing-back berth in Arsene Wenger’s new 3-4-2-1 formation.

Indeed, Bellerin himself has recently acknowledged how Arsenal’s new system has damaged the security of his starting role.

With Koscielny suspended for the first two Gameweeks, we are currently favouring Kolasinac – who scored three goals and five assists for Schalke last season – to establish himself as the next must-have wing-back.

There are cheaper alternatives to consider at the Emirates, though, with Nacho Monreal and Shkodran Mustafi at 5.5 apiece. The latter’s 20 headed efforts on goal was ranked top for FPL defenders in 2016/17.

Arsenal’s first five home clashes (LEI BOU WBA BHA SWA) look conducive to early investment, as are trips to Stoke City and Watford in the first 10 Gameweeks.

Staying in London, Chelsea boast as many as six defenders in the premium price bracket – somewhat surprising given that they conceded more goals (33) and earned fewer clean sheets (16) than both Spurs and Man United.

When assessing their prospects this time round, the degree of rotation may ultimately determine the most secure targets now that Conte has the Champions League to consider.

It’s also worth noting that only three of the champions’ 16 shut-outs came in the final 16 Gameweeks, suggesting that the cracks were appearing in their 3-4-3 formation.

If we can discount the threat of rotation, Marcos Alonso has to be the stand-out Chelsea candidate even though he’s the most expensive defender on offer at 7.0.

The statistics highlight why.

The former Fiorentina man ranked top for shots (46), efforts in the box (25) and attempts on target (16) for defenders on his way to averaging 5.7 points per match (ppm).

While Chelsea have coveted the services of Alex Sandro from Juventus, Alonso’s role at left wing-back currently looks uncontested. If it stays that way, then he has to remain worthy of the investment with Chelsea’s testing early fixtures the only caveat (BUR tot EVE lei ARS stk MCI).

Cesar Azpilicueta (bonus potential), Gary Cahill (six goals last season) and wing-back Victor Moses – now listed as a defender – all set you back £6.5m and have their upsides.

But it’s David Luiz who is the most popular defender in the FPL game, with 21.4% ownership.

Along with new arrival Antonio Rudiger, the Brazilian is the cheapest Chelsea backline member at £6.0m. Despite scoring once last year, he placed sixth for shots (31) among defenders and could yet prove a stronger value option.

Luiz clearly has merits, but given Chelsea’s early schedule, we may need attacking returns from our Blues defender to eke out early value. Alonso is clearly the most likely to offer that.

Reclassified as a defender this time around, Liverpool’s James Milner has penalty-kick duties to strengthen his appeal as a fire-and-forget option.

Priced at 6.5, at least 1.0 more than any of Jurgen Klopp’s defensive regulars, Milner netted seven times from the spot in 2016/17 and has already converted a penalty in pre-season.

In terms of creativity, Milner boasts a considerable upside – he supplied more key passes (56) and more successful crosses (53) than any defender last season.

Despite earning just 12 clean sheets last term, he would have claimed third spot in the FPL defender listings if classified as a defender.

Essentially, then, like Chelsea’s Alonso, Milner could play huge part in our seasons if he can avoid rotation, though the acquisition of Andrew Robertson (5.0) clearly makes that unlikely.

Milner is currently troubled by a thigh injury which will see him possibly miss Liverpool’s next two friendly encounters. While we expect him to be fit and start as the Reds’ first choice left-back, we are also anticipating that Robertson will go on to make between six-10 starts as Klopp perhaps rotates around European fixtures.

Elsewhere on Merseyside, Everton pair Leighton Baines (6.0) and the injured Seamus Coleman (6.5) also boast lofty price tags.

With Coleman stuck on the sidelines and the Toffees set to face Man City, Chelsea, Spurs and Man United in the first five, many will be side-stepping their defensive regulars until the schedules smiles on them from Gameweek 6.

At that point, the likes of Michael Keane (5.5) and goalkeeper Jordan Pickford (5.0) look likely to emerge as routes into a rearguard which claimed 13 shut-outs in 2016/17.

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  1. zdrojo187
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    How's this looking?

    Foster
    Alonso - Monreal - Cedric
    Sanchez - Redmond - Eriksen - KDB - Willian
    Benteke - Firmino

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No Kane or Lukaku?

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Expensive.

    3. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Dat front line!

    4. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      That front line is so depressing

    5. Net Gains
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Honestly I have seen over 100 RMTs here. This is the absolute worst by some distance.

      1. UnitedFan
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        😆

      2. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Bit harsh

    6. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ok for a 3-5-2 with Sanchez - would maybe try to somehow upgrade Firmino to one of the real big hitters as you are lacking captaincy options.

    7. zdrojo187
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Better...?

      Foster
      Alonso - Kolasinac - Cedric
      Willian - Zaha - Eriksen - Redmond - Salah
      Lacazette - Aguerro

    8. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Love that midfield, I suppose the question you must ask is, will your top two mids out score top strikers such as Kane Luk and Kun.

  2. Keeper & Defender Combos
    Twisted Saltergater
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    GK + Defender Combos

    (This is in Chapter 8 of Waxys' Fanny Pack btw 😛 )

    When it comes to dividing your budget between goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and strikers, every 0.5m saved in defence can help upgrade your attack to a more reliable source of points. As such, the rule of thumb has been to spend as little as possible on a goalkeeper and an equal or greater proportion of your budget on each defender*. The logic behind this is that the points ceiling of a defender is higher than that of a goalkeeper; assists and goals usually outnumber the save points.

    If we take a look at an example (2016/17 prices), is it better to have:

    A) Courtois (6.0m) + Nyom (4.5m)
    or
    B) Foster (4.5m) + Alonso (6.0m)

    While with A, you have the option of rotating Nyom and playing the fixtures, the disparity of points between a premium goalkeeper and Foster is significantly smaller than a typical 4.5m defender and premium defender. Also, your premium defender should be more assured of starts which tends not to be an issue for first choice goalkeepers, regardless of cost.

    2016/17
    Courtois (171) + Nyom (74) = 245 points
    Foster (113) + Alonso (177) = 290 points

    I'm not for a second suggesting you would play Nyom every gameweek, but rotating a defender is an available strategy regardless of whether you've bought Foster or Courtois, and is therefore irrelevant.

    Now, this is the key thing; this season is the first season I can remember where goalkeepers have been priced more competitively and first choice defenders have been priced higher. So should this affect our selection approach?

    Let's take a look at Man Utd and West Brom - two teams with favourable opening fixtures.

    A) DDG (5.5m) + Dawson (5m)
    B) Foster (4.5m) + Bailly (6m)

    Would you be able to pick the best combination of these pairings? It's much closer and I'm inclined to suggest A. Yes, there are Man Utd defenders cheaper than 6m but none that are certain of being played every week. I hope you'll agree this is a fair representation of the pricing this year.

    With the above example, perhaps the key concern is that Bailly provides little (if any) attacking threat. However, FPL have been wise to price all attacking defenders with a premium: Alonso, Moses, Cahill, Milner, Walker, Rose, McAuley, VDV, Bertrand, Daniels, etc... even PvA at 5.5m despite the threat of Schlupp and lack of clean sheets. Effectively, we're now being asked a baseline price for clean sheets across all defenders and goalkeepers in a given team, plus 0.5 - 1.0m for the attack minded defenders.

    There will always be FPL sides with a 4.5m gk and 4.5m defenders. This is always an option. What my post is raising is that it is no longer an automatic decision to go with a cheap goalkeeper and pricier defender (more so if you're choosing the defender for clean sheets alone).

    * An acceptable exception to this is the 5th defender at 4.0m that is permo-benched.

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      *perma-benched

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        permo sneaked through the proof read! I quite like it though 🙂

    2. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A, but that's only because Bailly has no assist/goal threat.

      Foster + Dawson + £1M spent on attack would outscore A.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        That's arguable. You're of the opinion that a Man Utd defender/goalkeeper isn't worth it, which is not what I'm discussing 🙂

        If you wanted to choose a Man Utd defender, should you go with DDG or one of their defenders?

        1. t4thomas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Valencia > DDG > Everyone else.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            I'd argue that DDG + 1m beats Valencia, personally.

            Over 20% of teams have Bailly and/or Lindelof, so this is definitely relevant.

    3. Limbo
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      +1

      An attacking defender (premium) and a keeper in a decent defence is almost always going to pay off over premium keeper and solid CB. I'm of the opinion that cheap in form keepers are always a better pick over their more pricey counterparts.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        That has always been the train of thought. Can you give me an example this year?

        1. Limbo
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Both West Brom keepers are a shoe in + 1 or 2 premium wing backs (Alonso / Walker etc), or at least defenders with attacking potential.

          I'd much rather that than pick Cortois and a 4.5m back-up + a 5m risk.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            So you're suggesting Foster + Alonso, right? That's 11.5m.

            How about Courtois + Dawson and 1m spare? Or Courtois + D.Luiz for the same money? Or Courtois + Bellerin, Baines, Kompany, Toby, etc.

            Seriously, the prices are very different this year.

      2. Limbo
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        * cheaper keeper in a decent defence

    4. Ramboros
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Pretty sure Courtois started at 5.5 last year.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I wasn't sure. He's showing as 5.9m in his history and didn't think he'd have gone up 0.4m, but maybe he did? The underlying points I'm making should still be true.

        1. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          He started at 5.5, he rose a lot because the Chelsea defenders were all 6.0 and above.

    5. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Good analysis! I think the pricing of defenders has been a little harsh this season but I'm glad to see you've made some sense of it here. I don't think I'll be spending as much at the back this year though - funds will probably go further in attack.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I disagree. There are about 8 defenders I really, really want to start the season with, and even more I'm sure I'll want when fixtures change, and even more that I think are good value, but not as excellent as the ones I really, really want! 😀

    6. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Good post TS.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, Gnu. I'm riding with DDG as a result of this analysis. I'm sure there will be pressure to downgrade to Hart or Begovic for the extra 1m, but I need to weigh up both sides of that equation. Value for PPM is so key at the start of the game.

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          He's a tempting pick but that 1m looks better spent elsewhere.
          Started at 8.5m combo but quite settled with Hart & Foster.
          Like most in my squad noone is assured as yet... nearly no-one.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            DDG + Elliott is only 0.5m more than that combo.

            Of course, DDG only becomes the value pick if you've opted for a Man U defender in addition to Hart + Foster.

    7. Ber2k
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Thinking similar with same example in my team, rotating WBA/Burnley. Planning 433 to include Alonso.

      De Gea
      Alonso Trippier Cedric Dawson Mee
      Alli Willian Mane Loftus-Cheek Carroll
      Lukaku Jesus Austin

      Always a 343 but think the value in defence with the question marks over a lot of midfield options makes it the best way to start this year. Not really comfortable with a 5.5 goalie but seems like best security of Man Utd cover.

    8. Chrisirwin01
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Great discussion and points raised. Personally I've decided to go down a risky rotation set up for the first six gameweeks as follows:

      GK: Forster (GW 1, 3, 4 & 5) + Heaton (GW 2 & 6)

      DEF: Cedric & Dawson - (GW 1 - 6)

      GW 1: Tripper 3-4-3
      GW 2: Mee & Lowton 4-3-3
      GW 3: Tripper, 3-4-3
      GW 4: Mee & Lowton 4-3-3
      GW 5: Tripper 3-4-3
      GW 6: Mee & Lowton 4-3-3

      Of course this is all subject to change depending on the above teams performing as to plan...fingers crossed.

    9. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nice discussion. As you said, though, Bailly is the problem there. I just never considered him at 6.0, not even Lindelof at 5.5. If it were:

      A) DDG (5.5m) + Dawson (5m)
      B) Foster (4.5m) + Kolasinac (6m)

      I would personally say B hands down. It's also hard to predict if a GK will do well or not. Foster didn't do very well last year, but maybe he will this year. (Actually I'm not convinced he will, so I've selected Fabianski at this present moment!)

    10. Geoff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Very good post 🙂

      I think there's also a strategy where you pick DDG for the first 8 or so gameweeks (with a 4.0, maybe Elliot) and then use a transfer to switch to another premium keeper with fixtures; counting on a keeper transfer every 8 weeks doesn't seem too difficult to pull off.

      I will still do two 4.5m keepers and a relatively cheap defence (I rarely start with anyone over 5.5m, some seasons no one over 5m. I don't trust teams to keep CSs at the beginning of the season

  3. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Did some research on how the premium attackers fared in games against the top 6 teams last season. Great for KDB owners as he comes out on top.

    Points Games PPG

    Kane 34 9 3.77
    Sanchez 37 10 3.7
    Hazard 46 10 4.6
    Lukaku 40 11 3.63
    Alli 49 9 5.44
    Mane 46 8 5.75
    Eriksen 48 10 4.8
    KDB 55 9 6.11

    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Does KDB even play the top 6 in the first few GWs?

      1. Revival
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Liverpool in GW4, if only he could transfer his form against the big teams to other games then he could be the top scoring midfielder.

  4. mattk lfc
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Quite happy with this. 1.5m spare but not sure where to put it, any suggestions

    Forster (Elliot)
    Trippier Bertrand Dawson Mee/Tomkins
    Coutinho Alli Zaha Ritchie (Carroll)
    Kane Lukaku (Fletcher)

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Upgrade Richie or Mee.

    2. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Dawson to Kompany.
      Mee to Ake, play Ake where ever fixtures are good.

    3. fattfattygavgav
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Mee and Dawson rotate really well. Upgrade Richie to William if I were you

  5. FANTASYFOOTBALLPRO
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    GUYS IS KDB REALLY WORTH 1.5 MORE THAN SANE.SANE LOOKS TO BE REALLY PLAYING SINCE AFTER JANUARY AND PEP LOVES HIM. THEY HAVE GOT TO BE CITYS MOST NAILED MIDS BUT SURELY SANE PIPS HIM

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Reported for CAPS

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Stop shouting.

    3. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Chill with the caps please 🙂

    4. Parm
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      THANKS FOR THE INFO WILL TAKE IT ON BOARD PAL THANKS CHEERS AGAIN MATE

        1. BLANKET DEFENCE
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Haha. I loved that.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I was certain that was going to be a gif of LOUD NOISES

    5. Lebowski85
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      The Ginger Ninja is untouchable

  6. BigAsGiroud_
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Which one?
    A)Sanchez+Salah+Jesus+Austin
    B)Sane+Alli+Lukaku+Firmino

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Easy, B.

  7. Stimps
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) Alonso, Aguero, Alli

    B) Jesus, Kane, Daniels

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

  8. woodles
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) Kompany, Alli, Lukaku (also have Mkhitaryan)
    B) Naughton (rotation with NEWc defender), KDB, Kane

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

  9. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Currently have a few expensive players in my team but not really happy with the balance who should I downgrade?

    Alonso
    KDB
    Salah
    Kane
    Kaku

    1. It's his Job.
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alonso and salah

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Salah since he's more of a gamble than the others.

    3. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alonso

    4. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Salah to Willian.

      KDB to Sane.

  10. It's his Job.
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Do not want both so who would you prefer,

    1,Alli
    2,Kane

    1. Begbie.
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kane.

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Depends what you do with the extra 3.0

      1. It's his Job.
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        The extra 3.0 would balance the team out slightly better,

    3. VFORVANDETA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2

    4. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      It's not that simple

    5. A Team Of James McCleans
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Just get both

    6. GE
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      2

    7. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Both are good too.

  11. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    1st draft, thoughts please:

    DDG Elliot
    Trippier Cedric Dawson Mee Rangel
    Coutinho Alli Willian Tadic RLC
    Lukaku Jesus Benteke

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nice team, I like it.

    2. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Good team, but is Benteke worth 8Mil ?

  12. pakornk
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Rooney's touches are atrocious. Even worst than Lukaku

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Pushing it.

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Remember him near the end of last season for Utd where his passing was laughable bad.

    3. Salarrivederci
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Rooney is just legendary, and the Evertonian just crushed Ruzomberuk - a great great team in the great great soccer country, Slovakia. Did you know, that Slovakia have more than 6000 caves in, and that Peter Sagan is their national bicycle hero!?

      I have 3 Everton nailed in my team:
      Great legend Rooney
      Be(a)st Baines
      And Stekelenburg for CS

      I think i will WC them out after first 5 weeks or so.

      1. One Man
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Are you joking, Everton have the worst starting fixtures ?

  13. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Just tuned in 5 mins ago. How was Klassen? And how was everyone else?

    1. Lebowski85
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Klaasen looked decent. His touch is great and his awareness aswell. A cut above Barkley for sure. I'd like to see them play together though. Sandro looked lively....really energetic. Could & should have set up Klaasen for a 2nd

  14. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Reevaluated my previous draft. Think I have a pretty strong team going here. Thoughts?

    Bego
    Kompany, Bertie, Trippier, Pied
    KDB, Alli, Ozil, Willian
    Lukaku, Firmino

    Hart, Carroll, Suttner, Fletcher

  15. PvA
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I've been such a turnip in the past, sorry all... I'll stop

    It came from boredom

    1. PvA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      By "past" I mean a few hours ago

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Evening OT

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Morning TM, up early?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          You could say that.

          1. PvA
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            What time did you sleep?

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Sleeptyping atm.

              1. PvA
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                You are a machine, but it can't be good for you unless you sleep through the day

                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 14 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Someone else will take over soon.

                  1. PvA
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    If you need someone extra on the rota, I'm here for you

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      The car goes too fast for you.

    3. I Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      It's okay.

    4. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Not again. What happened a few hours ago? Haha 😛

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Same old, you know

    5. Net Gains
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No, don't stop! I saw everything you wrote yesterday. You are a lovely, genuine person. You will find the right person soon and she will be extremely lucky and it will all feel right 🙂

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Lol I was talking in general, I hate how I acted

        But thanks for your words 🙂

        1. Net Gains
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          How do you feel you acted and why do you hate it?

          1. PvA
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Acting like I know it all and putting people down. Really hate it when I see others do it - then realised it's what I've been doing

      2. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Right person right here ^

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Hahaha didn't mean to incinuate that!

          1. PvA
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Could be a 68 year old man for all I know

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              No, you're 21!

    6. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Hard work

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Dedication

    7. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      F*** the mayweathers!!!

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeeeeeeeeah

    8. bojack
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Have a +1.

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        You too, Bojack

    9. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This site would be a lot poorer without you, m8.

  16. I Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    RMT

    De Gea
    Trippier - Cedric - Daniels - Dawson
    De Bruyne - Coutinho - Willian - Zaha
    Kane - Lukaku

    Elliot, 4.0, Carroll, McBurnie

    Open to criticism and suggestions.

    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I am a 3-4-3 guy, but I think that 4-4-2 looks decent this time out.

      I like your team.

      It has good value.

      Not many differential picks there, but that's no biggie.

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Always been a 3-4-3 guy myself liking the balance of 4-4-2 to start with.

    2. PvA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Looks good if you're happy with the formation

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah I think so. Tried a big front three but didn't like my midfield. Not sold on any of the mid-price or budget strikers. Will probably change formation on WC when the best cheap striker or cheap mid emerges.

    3. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Nice team

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers.

    4. HNI
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Except willian things look good as he is too short term looking at Haz already back in training...I would bring Ramaey from willian rest is perfecto

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Easy switch to Ramsey or Lanzini after a couple weeks. Thanks.

    5. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Your bench is diabolical, but so is mine and it's worth it IMHO.

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah I'm aware. Carroll the only playing sub unless I get lucky with the 4.0 defender.

    6. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      All around good team...who cares about formation as long as you are bagging the points.

  17. HNI
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Who apart from HUD are almost perfect partners to Brighton? Need a good rotation 4.5 partner to Dunk who is nailed 100% and better defence than sorry huddersfield

    1. H-SF
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Francis

      1. HNI
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Not nailed at all as Cook is above him

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Southampton or Crystal Palace rotate quite well with Brighton

      1. HNI
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Have got cedric so will being a CpL defender..any in mind?

  18. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    With Deeney not apparently starting season is Watford's Okaka a good option as cheap 3rd forward

    1. HNI
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Ok at best..not at all good in a sorry watford side facing mixed matches..better go rodriguez/austin and then move to chica in gw 4

      1. One Man
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Rodriguez nailed ?

  19. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Its May 2018.

    Absolute scenes on FFS as Jules Breach has fluked her way to the FPL title.

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Your substitution table is misleading. Some players on that list get subbed because the game is already won.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        What's Hazard's excuse?

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Controversial too, having used the "Free Hit" chip in GW38 to copy the team that was in 2nd place overall thus ensuring she couldn't be caught

    3. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Is fluked a euphemism?

  20. Harambe_Costa
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    RMT Please people! Struggling!

    Foster
    Trippy Kompany Cedric
    KDB Wllian Salah Redmond
    Jesus Christ Lukaku Rodriguez

    Elliot, Dunk, Ritchie, Gamez

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Jesus Christ Lukaku Rodriguez sounds similar to my drug dealer.

      1. Limbo
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Ice, Pills, Back foot, Nutmeg, SCORE

      2. GE
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Haha! 🙂

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Does Jesus Christ play with a man bun or a pony tail?

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Last time I seen him play football he had a canny resemblance to some guy called George Best

        1. Harambe_Costa
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Jokes!

          Gimme so feedback on the team please! Jesus Christ Loves you all! 🙂

          1. Judders
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Lack of Kane or Alli could seriously hurt you

  21. We Will Klopp you
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Watching Everton should come with a risk of death from boredom warning

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      We all forget how crap teams in the PL can be

  22. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Having Austin is a gamble, but a) it could pay off and b) if he doesn't start GW1 he can easily be transferred out for Gayle who has a clear run of fixtures after Spurs.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      How much can it pay off? Could easily start with Gayle and do it the other way around if Austin looks good as nailed.

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Austin's opening fixture is kinder though. Gayle will be lucky if he gets 2 shots vs Spurs.

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I think Austin could be great value for 11GWs, but I wouldn't take risks for a big GW1 haul. Chica? JRod + 0.5 ITB.

          Again...... you just have to...... you guessed it.....

          wait. 😛

    2. HNI
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Well gayle is hardly nailed and too injury prone for rough epl..rodriguez is your answer

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        J Rod is quite possibly the most injury prone striker after Sturridge 😐

        1. HNI
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          True that..jrod, austin and gayle all glass legs..maybe chica can save us from gw 4

  23. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I genuinely miss the Europa League - I've had years of watching teams like this at the Lane. How many of you guys have ever seen FC Sheriff?

    Thank god we'll be back in it in February.

    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Will always be the Channel 5 Thursday Night Trophy to me

  24. FANTASYFOOTBALLPRO
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    HMMM gabbiadini or aistin. which will start

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Austin should be in the driving seat.

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      How does one even shout, 'hmmm'?

      1. bojack
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        😆

        This made me chuckle.

  25. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is this a make or break season for Jonty?

    Will his advice be discounted if he has two poor seasons in a row?

    How bad does your OR have to be before you get kicked out of the penthouse suite in FFS towers?

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        😆 😆

      2. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I wear Old Spice actually.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Advice taken with a grain of salt anyway 🙂

    2. HNI
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      The game is too random now for best ones to rise every season..he has experience and thats what matters to most of us...those who only obsess about recent ranks can choose to avoid their advice

    3. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Not really.

      No.

      No idea.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        You got all 3 wrong.

    4. Lebowski85
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      The last two seasons have been weird to be fair. I found them tough, and usually finish top 100k

  26. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Well I hope Everton improve a lot over the next few weeks or else they're in trouble on that showing.

    1. Limbo
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      It's clear there's a lot of work to do on selection.

      Klaassen and Sandro looking like good picks for GW6 +

    2. kalmoffit
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      West Ham lose in rural Romania every year but it has no effect.

  27. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Can we read anything into the Everton lineup? Is Martina likely first choice?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Probably 60/40 Martina if guessing.

      1. how now brown cow
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks. Sounding a bit too risky perhaps.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Wouldn't bother until WC.

          1. how now brown cow
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah. Optimistically thinking I won't be using it early. I can dream.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He is a Koeman favourite, bought twice, even his brother managed him in Holland. Did okay, nice cross, yeah.

      1. how now brown cow
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers Netley. Was tempted to get him and bench him gw2-6. Trying to do without early wildcard, but then I always say that.

  28. 824545201
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Just so people know, Daniels is in poor form for quite some time, Ake is the best Bournemouth defensive option by far.

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      In what way? Getting attacking returns?

    2. bojack
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks 824545201, but 824545202 tells me different 🙂

    3. FANTASYFOOTBALLPRO
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      i have to agree. ake is dangerous from corners and strong in the bps

      1. UnitedFan
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Daniels has 7 goals and 8 assists in tow seasons playing LB. Should be priced at 5.5. Both great options.

        1. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          *two

    4. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      and Ake's form is what? getting splinters?

  29. FANTASYFOOTBALLPRO
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    i think milojevic should be everyone 5th mid. surely its time to ditch rlc caroll chalobah wat dju think

    1. bojack
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Isn't he 0.5 more?

      1. FANTASYFOOTBALLPRO
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        ya but he has set pieces and pens and more ailed

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      What if playing 2 or 3 in midfield?

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Or 5?

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          And I can't replace all three players with one unfortunately. Would save me money though

    3. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Lend me half a mill then.

    4. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      That half though, for a bencher?

    5. FANTASYFOOTBALLPRO
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      he always startable

    6. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      4th 😉

  30. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    you have to remember the standard of Everton's opposition tonight when analysing prospects...
    it was a lot better than the shit they face in their opening PL game