Scout Notes

Scout Notes – Gameweek 1 – Saturday

A wildly unpredictable day brings joy for bargain third strikers and all manner of grief for most, if not all, of Chelsea’s assets.

Pep Guardiola again goes for two up top, with Sergio Aguero emerging triumphant, while Mohamed Salah also wins his personal duel with Sadio Mane.

Elsewhere, Crystal Palace bomb, Southampton troll going forward and West Brom do what West Brom do.

Here are the notes from a memorable first Saturday of the season.

Budget strikers rip up the script

Anyone furtively checking scores on their phone during an ill-timed wedding yesterday would have been excused a brief snort of disbelief at the half-time score from Stamford Bridge.

Champions Chelsea three goals – and one man – down to travel-sick Burnley? If this is what the season’s going to be like, we’re all in for a bumpy ride.

But the carnage merely served to highlight the appeal of budget striker Sam Vokes, who hit a brace to defy all expectations that Burnley would continue their travel-sick ways this season.

Vokes made an emphatic case for a long run in the side as the lone striker now that Andre Gray has moved to Watford. He scored five goals in as many matches at the end of the last campaign and has clearly brought that form with him into the new campaign.

His 6.0 price sets him up as third striker material, although Burnley’s away fixtures remain deeply unattractive despite the shock win at the Bridge, with trips to Spurs, Liverpool, Everton and Man City to come before Gameweek 10.

A role as a rotation option with a midfielder looks the best way to maximise his potential from Burnley’s next four home matches against West Brom, Crystal Palace, Huddersfield and West Ham.

Almost as shocking was Huddersfield Towns 3-0 win over Crystal Palace, with Steve Mounie scoring twice at Selhurst Park.

The Terriers’ record signing brought home 12 points for the 1.2% of managers who fell for his 6.0-priced charms based on a fine four-goal pre-season.

One win does not a season make – Hull City were fast out of the traps last year and look what happened to them – but the Terriers’ early schedule is kind enough for this result to offer solid hope of decent returns from their cut-price squad.

And the lively Mounie has already enjoyed decent overnight ownership increases on the back of a win that Palace will want to forget ahead of a Gameweek 2 trip to Anfield.

At least Alonso offers hope

All is clearly not well at Chelsea.

The Blues currently have three of the top nine most popular defenders in Fantasy Premier League, with the red-carded Gary Cahill owned by 14.4%.

Their schedule was always going to stiffen markedly after the regulation three points we presumed they’d pick up from the Burnley encounter. There’s much to consider now, although selling Cahill before his premium 6.5 price goes south is the obvious move made by 50,000+ already.

Much of Marcos Alonso’s ownership are currently holding firm, however, and the Spaniard underlined his all-round charms with a team-high five attempts on goal.

Victor Moses returns for the Gameweek 2 trip to Spurs, but the once mighty Chelsea squad is now just looking mighty threadbare.

Cesc appeal wanes as Willian stars

The dismissal of Cesc Fabregas, an 8.8%-owned asset, will have been equally hurtful, with added pain coming from the performance of his midfield counterpart Willian. The pair are both attractively priced at 7.0 in FPL and for many managers, it was an agonising choice between the pair. The 18.0% who went with the Brazilian were rewarded with an assist and a single bonus point.

It was Alvaro Morata’s goal that helped prompt an unlikely second-half comeback from Chelsea.

The new striker also chipped in with an assist and two bonus points for a 10-point haul from an impressive 31 minutes that could now destroy the brief differential prospects of his fellow forward Michy Batshuayi.

But with trips to Spurs and a rejuvenated Leicester City, plus home matches with Arsenal and Man City, to come over the next six Gameweeks, investment in previously sure-fire Chelsea assets suddenly appears to be risky business.

Salah sets the pace

The murk surrounding the Liverpool midfield might just be beginning to lift.

Philippe Coutinho’s exit looks almost inevitable, and his FPL exodus reflects that – only the suspended Chelsea duo of Cahill and Fabregas have lost more managers than the Brazilian’s 29,000+ since Friday’s deadline.

And in the fight for recognition between Sadio Mane and Mohamed Salah, it was the latter who emerged victorious.

Mane, 0.5 more expensive but owned by just 0.3% fewer managers than Salah’s 23.9% base, opened the scoring during a first-half in which his Egyptian team-mate struggled.

That all changed after the break, Salah scoring one, setting up another and securing a bonus to finish with 11 points from an eye-catching competitive debut.

But it was Roberto Firmino who arguably stole the show. With James Milner ruthlessly benched – perhaps with Hoffenheim in mind – the Brazilian striker scored from the penalty spot, set up Salah’s goal and sealed the maximum bonus for 12 points.

His 8.5 price tag always looked attractive, but a quiet pre-season and upcoming matches with Arsenal and Man City kept many managers away. There’s also the matter of Champions League qualification duties – which starts on Tuesday – to bring the threat of rotation into the mix.

But Firmino is a favourite of Jurgen Klopp and, with Daniel Sturridge still sidelined, the Brazilian’s minutes should be protected.

Watford finished off pre-season with two straight goalless draws, while Liverpool kept four clean sheets from eight outings.

A 3-3 draw never looked so unlikely.

Klopp’s decision to field bargain basement full-backs Alberto Moreno and Trent Alexander-Arnold (both 4.5) in defence should have been cause for a few raised eyebrows and perhaps even spark investment.

Alexander-Arnold appeared to monopolise set-pieces, taking corners right and left. However, three goals conceded and further defensive frailties at set-plays dampen the appeal of the Liverpool rearguard.

Aguero wins round one

What promises to be a season-long battle for striking supremacy – both in Fantasy and the real thing – between Man City duo Gabriel Jesus and Sergio Aguero has begun.

Both were selected for the trip to Brighton and round one went emphatically to the Argentinian.

The 11.6% who forked out the extra money on Aguero (11.5) pocketed nine points from a goal and maximum bonus, while Jesus (10.5) saved his 13.2% ownership base a bit of money and not a lot else as a yellow card kept him to just one point on the day.

Jesus’ owners might wish to check the underlying stats before making any hasty judgment calls. The young Brazilian led the way across total attempts (4), penalty box touches (8) and minutes per chance (19.5), suggesting that another day could well bring markedly different results.

And those other days could come sooner rather than later, with City’s schedule all the way to the end of October looking relatively promising, particularly with Liverpool and Chelsea, who they face in Gameweeks 4 and 7 respectively, fluffing their opening day lines in defence.

The threat of rotation in a Pep Guardiola side is always significant, although 31.4% of managers clearly feel that Kevin De Bruyne will be the exception to the rule. The Belgian had a steady three-point day and, like Jesus, was busy, firing in four attempts and averaging a chance every 22.5 minutes – almost twice the frequency of Aguero.

But it was David Silva who dominated as a creative force, serving up five chances for team-mates, while wing-backs Kyle Walker and Danilo got forward throughout the match and yet offered little in the way of assist potential as City consistently chose to move the ball back inside rather than exploit the width the pair provided.

Meanwhile, investment in City’s back line is healthy, and Guardiola now looks pretty set on three centre-halves and wing-backs. Rotation in those five positions looks considerably less likely than it does higher up the pitch.

Palace formation leads us a merry dance

The heavily-owned Wilfried Zaha (25.7%) was joined by many a manager’s bargain midfielder of choice Ruben Loftus-Cheek (12.1% and just 4.5 in FPL) in support of Christian Benteke up front for Crystal Palace.

That should have been a cause for much celebration, but the Eagles failed to deliver going forward despite a considerably improved second-half showing against Huddersfield Town.

Joel Ward was surprisingly preferred to Andros Townsend as a wing-back, while Frank de Boer shuffled his three-man pack at the back by drafting in loan signing Timothy Fosu-Mensah, which in turn freed up Luka Milivojevic to return to his more familiar defensive midfield role.

Loftus-Cheek’s performance at least promises much if he could retain an advanced role, while wing-back Patrick van Aanholt – at 4.3% the most popular Palace defender in FPL – also did his stock little harm, as an offensive option at least.

The Dutchman took the Eagles’ corners from both sides, succeding with four from seven. Last season, he was behind just 15 in 32 appearances.

Another day, another Southampton blank

Claude Puel lost his job at Southampton in part because of the meagre fare his team offered the home fans.

Mauricio Pellegrino’s first match at St Mary’s was similarly drab – it was the sixth straight encounter in which the Saints have failed to score at home.

Some 6.5% of FPL managers had convinced themselves that Manolo Gabbiadini’s late-season role of troll in chief was a distant memory, only for the Italian to endure a particularly wasteful afternoon in the goalless draw with Swansea City.

The forward had a team-high five attempts in his 69 minutes of pitch-time but failed to hit the target with any of them. His position as lone striker could now be under threat from Charlie Austin.

At least the popular Ryan Bertrand (15.7%) got in the bonus thanks to the four chances created, including a big glaring chance missed by Dusan Tadic.

The left-back also took three corners for the Saints, having been trusted with just 12 in 28 matches last season.

Baggies grind it out

New season, same old West Brom.

Tony Pulis’ side bagged a set-piece goal from a centre-half – Ahmed Hegazi – and then sat back and soaked up the pressure for a gritty three points.

The giant Egyptian is already attracting a lot of transfer interest – just under 40,000 and counting – on the back of yesterday’s monster 15-point haul, although his starting place is far from assured once Gareth McAuley returns – most likely after the international break.

Jonny Evans’ ongoing hamstring issues meant he missed out, but new signing Jay Rodriguez was another third striker to impress on the day, firing in five attempts (three of which were on target) and linking up well with his team-mates, creating two chances.

Those numbers are particularly impressive for a West Brom striker – an often thankless lone forward task – but the worry remains that Rodriguez could be shifted back out wide should Pulis decided Salomon Rondon needs pitch-time. The big striker allegedly slammed down his shirt at the frustration of being omitted from the day one XI.

For visitors Bournemouth, Nathan Ake sneaked into the bonus points despite the defeat, underlining the belief that he will be the bonus magnet for Eddie Howe’s men when they keep clean sheets or, like yesterday, even when they don’t.

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  1. L'Aeroplanino
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Is Zaha injuried?

    1. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Hope so, means I have to sell him

    2. Totally !rre!evant
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      No

      1. internal error
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        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        How do you know?

        1. Totally !rre!evant
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Sorry this was meant as a reply to Jonty, meaning Nooooo this can't be happening 🙁

    3. Ayat_S
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Source?

    4. Ayat_S
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Thats a shame if true, could have gotten a haul against Liverpool

  2. FPL Virgin
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    🙂

  3. dracoira
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    :p

  4. GWK 1 Bonus Magnets
    J0E
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    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    Bonus magnets

    Early days, with GWK 1 not even complete, but I thought it was worth having a look at the players that could emerge this season as bonus point magnets from the small amount of data at hand.

    Having a look at the bonus awards, bonus point system (BPS) and baseline bonus data there are a few interesting players to look at as potential bonus magnets this season.

    Members can see the baseline bonus here via this table - http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/19239/

    Ake

    Touted on the Scoutcast as a potential magnet this season. This centreback hit the ground running – winning an extra point despite his Bournemouth side losing to West Brom. A look at the baseline bonus kings of GWK 1 shows that, as with last season, his all round game – in particularly pass completion and recoveries - is well suited to the BPS. He is the fourth fastest at securing BPS in GWK 1 so far.

    Kolasinac

    He shipped three goals, but also secured bonus. The Arsenal defender’s assist helped, but so too was his pass completion. If he can add clean sheets to the mix he could be a monster for BPS this season.

    Stephens v Yoshida v Bertrand

    Stephens outgunned his Southampton team mate Yoshida in the BPS, as was also mentioned on the Scoutcast. Yoshida though looked more threatening - and is even on some set pieces. Bertrand, however, was the real star in terms of BPS among the Saints ranks - if you have the extra money he looks worth the extra outlay..

    Fosu-Mensah and Loftus-Cheek

    This Palace defender is another elite player for baseline bonus who may need clean sheets to shine. Only six other players had a faster rate of racking up baseline bonus. His fellow double barreled team mate Loftus-Cheek is another that prospered in terms of baseline bonus – one to watch, especially as he’s also only 4.5.

    Which other key players stood out for you in the bonus awards or by looking at the BPS data?

    Has Gameweek 1’s bonus awards prompted you to consider certain players over others?

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Ake getting a bonus point whilst being on the losing side is quite something.

      1. Team Cruel
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        You often get points despite being on the losing side but to get one when there are several clean sheets in the opposition, THAT is quite something.

        1. FPL Virgin
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          6 years, 8 months ago

          I went with Daniels because Ake's goal conversion rate looked unsustainable.

          Should have listened to Jonty. He called this back in July in the preseason scoutcast.

          1. Mark
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            6 years, 8 months ago

            I've got Daniels and will give him a couple of games before I consider switching.

            Ake will need to score before a rise will be on the cards so there's time to assess. I still think Daniels may just pip him - Ake's attacking points are reliant on set-piece delivery.

            1. FPL Virgin
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              Plus Daniels ownership is worth covering for now, I feel.

              I did a table on Bournemouth's defenders and, interestingly, Cook seemed to come out on top stats-wise. Dark horse.

      2. bojack
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Purely completed passes I'd say. When teams sit back he'll get loads.

    2. Agger
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Well i went for Otamendi over Kompany just before deadline. Happy with his 2 bonus 🙂

    3. FPL Virgin
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      6 years, 8 months ago

      Some really interesting data there. There are some good, tempting targets I really want to get ... but this conflicts with the advice on the scoutcast to be patient and save a transfer.

      1. Team Cruel
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        6 years, 8 months ago

        Scoutcast also said Bournemouth would destroy WBA. Fair enough they make a lot of wonderful points but that doesn't mean there's only one definite way to play the game.

        1. FPL Virgin
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          Yeah. I doubled up on Bournemouth expecting a comfortable win.

          Didn't Bournemouth start badly last season? I'm not sure.

        2. Mark
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          Blimey. Don't judge our opinions on that! Plus it was mainly my opinion and a wild prediction, made out of hope that good would prevail over evil 😉

          Seriously, match predictions for the opening weekend are a pretty thankless task and I'm generally rubbish at predicting results as I let heart rule head.

          I just felt that WBA would struggle. To be fair, they got their typical goal and then just retreated to the six yard box. Horrible to watch second half.

          1. FPL Virgin
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            6 years, 8 months ago

            Surprised you went 4-4-2 Mark. Teams are so nervy on the opening day ... there are usually very few clean sheets.

            What do you think about Hegazi, Mark? Is it Gareth McAuley all over again?

          2. G-Whizz
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            "Seriously, match predictions for the opening weekend are a pretty thankless task and I'm generally rubbish at predicting results as I let heart rule head."

            We all do that's what makes it all the more fun. Don't know if you've already joined the community here would be great to have you aboard too, small chance to win some wonga too 🙂
            https://www.superbru.com/premierleague_predictor/play_tipping.php?r=1

            "I just felt that WBA would struggle. To be fair, they got their typical goal and then just retreated to the six yard box. Horrible to watch second half."
            Doubled up and chose Hegmeister with Foster will cross the McAuley bridge when we have to 😆
            He played very well (even through biased spectacles) in my eyes and Ol' man McAuley may have a job on his hands at 37 to get it back...

        3. Goat
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          I suppose you knew West Brom would win 1-0. Easy say stupid stuff like that after a game

    4. TFP
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      I'm watching RLC very closely. A 4.5 unit midfielder playing in a front three would be extraordinary value, even if (as seems likely) he doesn't bag many goals or assists.

      1. Helia
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        He play in the front 3?

      2. Crystal Ball
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        He won't play in the front 3 again, at half time went into the double pivot. However he looked really good and comfortably our best player yesterday. Will start and will get goals and assists,very good option for 4.5

    5. red forever
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Foster?

    6. Ludo
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Outside centre backs in back threes seem to do well in the BPS, as a rule. They see plenty of the ball, which helps with pass thresholds, and tend to make a lot of recoveries and tackles as they cover the space behind the wing backs.

      Azpilicueta is a great example from last season, and Kolasinac and TFM also show promise, as you say. Kolasinac perhaps moving to wing back should be good news for his attacking potential, but possibly not for his bonus prospects.

      1. Mark
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        Great points.

        I'm likely Fosu-Mensah for this reason, though Palace have to learn how to defend on set-pieces. Seem's it's everyone's flaw early season. My take from day one, get on set-piece takers.

        1. Geoff
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          Ritchie looks a good option

      2. Ludo
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        6 years, 8 months ago

        Otamendi and Kompany outperforming Stones in the BPS yesterday might also support that theory, but very difficult to draw many conclusions from just one match.

    7. Hotdogs for Tea
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      6 years, 8 months ago

      Seems to be a bit of Soton bias - hype in the past about how they will get bonus points then hot topics saying 'told you so' ... but ignoring the fact that Fernandez out did Bertrand, Naughton out did Stephens, Mawson out did the rest ... ?

      1. J0E
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        Not ignoring - the hot topic is there to start the discussion and invite people to suggest their own players or points of interest - which you've done.

        The hot topic can't mention all the key bonus magnets - that's for you lot to do 🙂

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
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          6 years, 8 months ago

          You do, correctly, open the debate it to the floor 😉

    8. PogChamp
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Betrand is a solid pick. He's their best player imo.

      Triple Saints defence and double Liverpool attack were also mentioned on the Scoutcast. I went double and double and it worked out great.

    9. PogChamp
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I watched the Saints game and was really impressed with Naughton. I noticed he got a bap too. While Saints didn't offer much up front Swansea were fairly solid at the back.

      1. J0E
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        The Swansea situation is key - thanks for bringing up... esp as they are cheap. Ideal for those looking to downgrade a defender soon.

    10. MTPockets
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Hadn't realised that about Fosu-mensah. Might keep him for a bit then.

      • Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
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        6 years, 8 months ago

        BPS knowledge can also be applied to the conondrum of selecting the most viable Liverpool asset.

        Salah seemed to be the most popular pick, being priced at 9.0 as a slightly cheaper alternative to Mane. His goal and assist were not enough to see him dominate in the bonus however, which is largely due to his poor finishing. It's well known that he takes a lot of chances to score, and whilst it may have seemed like he was getting a lot of scoring chances that on another day would have been converted, I'd say we should expect more of the same.

        Mane offers a similar predicament. I'd say he's more clinical than Salah, but may also be frustrating to own when he misses out on bonus in high scoring games.

        The issue lies that Liverpool will likely score a lot of goals over the course of the season, with them being shared around the attacking players. Both Firmino and Salah notched a goal and assist, with Mane grabbing a goal to his name as well. This isn't taking into account that goals will also come from the more central midfielders as well as some of the defensive assets. What this means is that without a solitary haul, Salah and Mane may struggle in the bonus.

        Firmino on the other hand benefits from his reclassification as striker. Even after losing the winning goal BPS, he absolutely dominated securing all 3 points easily. Priced at 8.5M, when you take this into account, he looks to offer the best value to me. The issue here however lies with a wealth of other striking options available, with unknown quantities showing their worth, and we haven't even witnessed the likes of Kane and Lukaku yet.

        The bonus system is something we definitely need to account for as it can really give your score a boost - particular when selecting a captaincy option. If you consider the points I raised, that's why I would advise that Firmino is a better candidate for the armband than his Liverpool attacking compatriots, as he can easily swipe all 3 bonus with the others missing out despite scoring similarly, the same, or even better. When you consider the captaincy conundrum, 3 points become 6, so it really does count.

        1. J0E
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          Great point . every time the commentator said 'salah shoots but it's over' I thought he's going to suffer with bonus.

          Firmino may not be as exciting as the wingers but he could be a real steady eddy selection for the season.

        2. Ludo
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Good stuff. Almost all midfielders who play as forwards are poor in the BPS - Salah, Mane, Zaha, Sanchez, Walcott - that type of player. They don't get much for creating chances, and lose out for shots off target and being dispossessed, without passes or defensive work to prop themselves up. The caveat is, of course, they're in an advanced position, and far likelier to score than someone like Fabregas or KDB, who are outstanding in the BPS with all the Big Chances they create.

          It's not about being a good or bad finisher, though, really. Forwards tend to be as bad or worse than Midfielders like Salah, in terms of baseline BPS, no matter how clinical they are. If you're shooting a lot, you're going to be losing BPS. The key difference, as you say, is that Forwards get more BPS per goal, so when they do score, they're likelier to be in the points. That's a factor to consider, but it shouldn't be overstated. Firmino would have won 6 extra bonus points as a Forward last season, but he would have lost 11 for both goals and clean sheets, where Midfielders pick up an extra point over Firmino.

          As a midfielder, Firmino would still have got 3 bonus yesterday (though he would have tied with Doucoure), and would have got an extra point for his goal, taking him up from 12 to 13.

          1. muggaz
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            • 12 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            late to the party here, but Firmino owners need to hope he continues to get the pens.

    11. Agger
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I'm much more excited for the Spanish and Italian super cups tonight than the premier league games. Anyone with me?

      1. laplana
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        For sure

      2. Shearer & Sutton
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        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        No

      3. JustPark
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I'm more to Game of Thrones tbh

      4. Ghost Gooner
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Glorified Community Shields over epl? Focus mate

        1. Agger
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          6 years, 8 months ago

          The Lazio game was better than any Premier league match this weekend and the El Clasico was fascinating. Focus mate.

          1. Ghost Gooner
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            6 years, 8 months ago

            There were great games but still doesnt make them more prestigous than the CS just because they are over two legs

    12. Team Cruel
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      Surely Bertie felt a niggle or was completely gassed? Doesn't make sense to tactically sub such an influential defender with the game in balance.

      1. Mark
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        It was reported as a tactical sub and Pellegrino was not asked about it in the post-match presser.

      2. Yav
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        6 years, 8 months ago

        Plenty of managers will make a few silly calls this season imo.

        1. Agger
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          Like Craig Shakespeare subbing on Nacho for a midfielder then conceding 2 goals minutes later 😉

        2. G-Whizz
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          Yes, me for one smh 😆

      3. Hotdogs for Tea
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        I believe he went straight down the tunnel after being subbed - tactical subs go to sit on the bench - I would read a bit more in to this

    13. Marc OverMata
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I need to get a "gamble turned bad" named Fabregas out. Got .5 itb. Thinking straight swap to Ramsey as no other arsenal cover. Any other suggestions.

      Current mid: KDB, jwp Carrol, pogba, *fab

      Thanks

      1. F4L
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        yeh, I'm thinking Fab to Rambo as well

    14. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Those playing Sky FF are you using a transfer to bring in Lukaku or going without? I have enough left in the bank for Lacazette > Lukaku (c) if I decide to go for it

    15. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Kane and Lukaku at least have to bag a goal each today, surely?

      1. Yav
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        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Would help, the way this week has gone.

      2. BrockLanders
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Nothing guaranteed in this game mate..

    16. Drip Doctor
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      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      If Alexis stays, it's time for two mid priced strikers to go with Kane or Lukaku. Vardy, Firmino, Rooney etc....

      1. F4L
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        or just go with Kane + Firmino up top

        1. BrockLanders
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          6 years, 8 months ago

          This

      2. FPL Virgin
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        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Good point.

      3. RLukaku
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah I like that point, would be more exciting aswell

    17. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      People complain about refs in the PL, but wait till you see some of the decisions made in the Championship. Something really needs to be done about it, ruins games

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Bit sore about that red yesterday? Did look harsh from where I was sitting, especially one minute in. BUT Barrow was through.

        1. F4L
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          wasn't a red imo; we had cover and it sort of ruined any chance for us to go on and win. Happy with the draw in the end

      2. Hairy Potter
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Saw some howlers last season in the Championship. The two red cards that Newcastle got against Notts Forest, which were both overturned a few days later come to mind.

        1. Ohhh Shola Ameobi
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Newcastle, might be slightly biased here, seemed to be on the wrong end of a lot of poor decisions. Those reds you mention, the whole disallowed penalty leading to a Burton FK incident, and quite a few stonewall penalties denied.

          1. Hairy Potter
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Totally agree with you.

    18. BrockLanders
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Good chance Xhaka rises tonight. Don't miss the bandwagon..

      1. Yav
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Not really concerned.

      2. Agger
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Knowing my luck, I'll get him in and he'll be sent off.

        1. BrockLanders
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Torn between him and Fraser

        2. Yav
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Good chance of that happening!

      3. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Not fussed chasing his value, he will see the bench time and drop back - the value is in Firmino and Salah if the get a decent second GW

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Bench time? That will be Elneny. I can see Xhaka establishing himself as Arsenal's Matic.

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Xhaka is nothing like Matic. Matic is far better defensively. Xhaka is a far better playmaker with his vision to conduct play from deep.

          2. Hotdogs for Tea
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            The Arsenal FPL squad of midfielders is very congested (12 in fact) especially with wingbacks taking an extra spot in the actual team, and Wenger will give most mids some game time ... if you think Xhaka will be nailed ahead of all the other options then hold on to him

    19. migas2k7
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Is huddle defender löwe still on setpieces? Has anyone seen who took those yesterday?

      Just wondering if je is the right 4.5 defender to take... any opinions? I have hegazi already.

      1. Agger
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        They're analysing all the games on Sky Sports Premier league right now

        1. migas2k7
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          DIdnt managed to see... coild you update me?

      2. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        had him for GW1. He had a shot on target from distance, and took a few set pieces, I think. Not a bad shout.

    20. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mooy looked good yesterday

      1. Get up ya bum
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Quality player. Him and Ryan did Australia proud yesterday.

      2. laplana
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        He's quality on the ball, his dribbling is class. Huddersfield were immense. I expect plenty more goals from them in the coming weeks.

      3. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Great player but plays defensive mid.

        1. Differential C (Mark)
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Can make a killer cross, though.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            On pens too, I think.

      4. Fuchs Mane Kante
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        The Aussie Beckham.

    21. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Was Brunt just a temporary LB yesterday or have FPL messed up his classification for a second consecutive season?

      1. Yav
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Can play there or LM

      2. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Shocking decision by FPL. West Brom had no defenders when the game was released. It was so obvious he was going to play left back.

        Yet another reclassification balls up.

      3. BrockLanders
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Not sure why he's classified as a mid considering he'll likely start at LB more often..

      4. Mark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Temporary. He'll return to midfield when Evans is fit.

        1. Yav
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Does that mean he will go: Dawson Evans Hegazi/McAuley Nyom?

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            yep, he might even go Nyom Dawson Evans Brunt next week 😉

    22. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Am I right in thinking Xhaka, Vardy and Salah all price rise tonight?

      1. BrockLanders
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Only Xhaka.

        1. The Royal Robin
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers.

      2. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Only Xhaka is close, other 2 will take some time

      3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Hegazi will rise before Xhaka. 🙂

    23. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      @Jonty

      Can you stop moaning about the lack of choice in the third striker bracket now? 😉

      1. Venom Snake
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        @fplvirgin

        Can you crawl back into your shell?

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Upvote hussy.

      2. Forever In Our Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        😉 In fairness hindsight is a wonderful thing. Jonty was right before and bu the end of the season he will still be right. There is a dearth of talent in the 7mil striker position.

    24. laplana
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      While the pages aren't flying, would you guys start PVA next week over Suttner? I think I will be doing but could be a nasty scoreline.

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Nope... Liverpool are going to score, lots.

        1. laplana
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          That's my fear, planning on Salah captain too.

      2. Agger
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        No chance

      3. Yav
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        The way Palace are defending, no.

        1. Gilbert Prilasnig
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          The way Liverpool are defending corner kicks (which PvA takes for CP), yes

          1. Lyonnais
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 8 months ago

            Are you austrian?

            1. Gilbert Prilasnig
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 8 months ago

              Yup

      4. laplana
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Nice one.

      5. Forever In Our Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        No. Would sell asap.

      6. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Against Liverpool. Whatever he loses in goals conceded he is likely to exceed in attacking returns. Particularly if moreno plays again

    25. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      First gameweek isn't over yet, I already have started doing what I usually do.

      Went with Daniels over Dawson on Thursday, and Fraser over mooy HR. Before the deadline

      How much I have missed this

      1. Forever In Our Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        We all have stories like this. Mine was Zaha for Ramsey and Stones for Otamedndi.

    26. Agger
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone here considering Sam Vokes?

      1. laplana
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I'll give Gabi one more week, if he blanks it's either Vokes, Mounie or Gray.

      2. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        vs Spurs, could be difficult

      3. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Not yet.

      4. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        My next 2FT will upgrade Abraham - could be Vokes but there are a few options and I'll take a couple of weeks to assess.

    27. BrockLanders
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Just seen Yoshida's free kick at the death there. Goodness the points he would have got have left me heartbroken..

      1. Ghost Gooner
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Missed a header as well

        1. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          From 3 yards out lol

    28. Energetics
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I know must will say dont take a hit, but im set on Gabi to Firmino. So whivh move to allow:

      A. Alonso to Bertrand
      B. Zaha to JWP

      1. laplana
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        A

      2. BrockLanders
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Probably b with the injury concerns

      3. Yav
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Don't do it but if you really have to then A.

      4. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        A

      5. Forever In Our Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        A if you have to. B is flexibility crushing.

      6. Energetics
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks all. Will keep an eye on Zaha injury and A it is if he is declared fit.

    29. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Some people are saying that your team sheet that your selection today was a message to the Chelsea board?

      "Why? Why this question? You were not satisfied with my starting XI? No. You don't know me very well and you can see in our pre-season and in every friendly games I have always played the best formation and it happened the same also today.

      "Because through my choices I put the best players that we have with this moment. I repeat, I don't like this type of habit to send a message, why I have to send a message? Why? Why? I want to win today and I wanted to win, I wanted to win not send a message. Why? Why?"

      1. RLukaku
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Here he is again

      2. Jamie_GAWA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Tldr 😉

        1. Jamie_GAWA
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Jkińg of course, is this real?

      3. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Chelsea have almost all the personnel IMO. Perhaps short a LWB and a DM. Not sure why they sold Matic. Sell Costa too.

        GK: Courtois, Caballero
        LWB: Alonso, ?????
        RWB: Azpi, Moses
        CB: Luiz, Cahill, Rudiger, Christensen
        CM: Kante, Bakayoko, ?????
        LM: Hazard, Willian
        RM: Pedro, Fabregas
        FW: Morata, Batshuayi

    30. Celt Abroad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      It is great to see the scout notes back.

    31. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Any idea when https://fpldiscovery.wordpress.com/ will be updated? All I can see is 16/17 data.

      1. Clump
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Dunno. Its a big miss 🙁

      2. Valencia's Left Foot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Would love to see it back up this season. Great resource!

    32. Everyday im Schneiderlin
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      is loftus cheek nailed in the palce side im debating to go with 2 4.5 mids cheek and caroll/jwp ?

      1. Forever In Our Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        If Palace lose again id say no one would be nailed.

        1. Everyday im Schneiderlin
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          cheers your right having two 4.5 scares me

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I think RLC and Carroll look quite viable. Would enable strengthening elsewhere.

    33. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Cant help feeling Conte is morphing into José.

    34. Gaffa914
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Fabregas first yellow was a joke, that ref just wanted headlines. How does clapping warrant a yellow card?

      1. Clump
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Dissent. Id have booked him too.

    35. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Predictions today?

      Kane - ?
      Lukaku - ?

      1. the snazzy viking
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Kane - 13
        Lukaku - 13

      2. Yav
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I've got both so they won't do anything.

      3. BALOOO
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        18
        2

    36. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      @mods

      Replies are not visible on Mobile devices using chrome

      1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Fine for me

      2. Clump
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Sounds like youve accidently unclicked the "show replies" thingy at the top! 🙂

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          D'oh!