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Top 5 Career Hall of Fame – Gameweek 2 Review

This article focuses on the moves and strategies employed by the five elite managers who grace the upper echelons of this site’s Career Hall of Fame (HoF). Between them these managers have achieved nine top 1,000 finishes in the past three seasons and have ended up in the top 10,000 a whopping 37 times over the course of their FPL careers.

And in Gameweek 2 they suffered just like the rest of us!

Another fairly short article this week with the season only two gameweeks old, in a few weeks time I will make use of Fusen’s FPL Statistico tool to gain an extra insight into their thinking.

Points and Rank

ManagerPeterGraemeJayMatthewMark
GW2 points3936473544
Total points1199912294108
FPL rank827,1102,102,787699,3382,426,0371,533,045
FPL ID3629834517557497282370

Career HoF number three Jay Egersdorff was the highest points scorer this week with a paltry 47. His score helped by clean sheets from West Brom’s Ben Foster, Manchester United’s Antonio Valencia, and Huddersfield’s Chris Löwe. His only attacking returns came courtesy of United’s Romelu Lukaku.

Meanwhile, two of this elite group, career number four Matthew Jones (aka Numb) and career number two Graeme Sumner (aka Gregor) find themselves nestling outside the top 2m in the rankings after failing to breach the 100 point barrier mark after two Gameweeks.

CAPTAIN

The United frontman was once again the unanimous captain choice for our Top Five. However, his 12 point contribution to their totals was below average for a Top Five captain pick, and over eight FPL points less than his personal average last season (20.7pts).

Can Lukaku maintain a 20+ point average this season? His home form is not in question but he’ll have to improve slightly upon his solitary away strike this week to keep it up.

Gameweek 3 provides managers with an interesting captain choice with the favourites for the golden boot – Lukaku and Tottenham’s Harry Kane – both enjoying home fixtures.

Last season we found ourselves with a similar captain dilemma going into Gameweek 24 – Kane had a tasty home fixture with Middlesbrough having scored a hat-trick in his previous home encounter against West Brom, while Lukaku was at home to Bournemouth, Everton having won 4-0 against Manchester City in their previous home match.

It proved to be a pivotal week for career HoF number one Peter Kouwenberg as he was the only member of last year’s Top Five to bring in and captain the Big Belgian, Lukaku rewarding him with a four goal haul putting Kane’s solitary strike against Boro in the shade.

It even prompted the famously patient Ville Ronka to make two kneejerk transfers that very Saturday as he sought to add the then Everton striker to his team.

Confidence in Kane appears high, certainly with career number five Mark Sutherns (aka Mark) as he talked up the Spurs man on this week’s Scoutcast. Kane’s stats from the first two matches put him head and shoulders above other forward options. This weekend the North London side play a Burnley team notorious for their poor away form, winning only once on the road last season and conceding 35 goals.

However Lukaku should not be ignored. United have won their first two matches 4-0, with Lukaku scoring three goals. This week the Red Devils face a Leicester team that conceded four goals in their opening match away to Arsenal. Last season the Foxes won only two matches on their travels and conceded more goals than Burnley – 38.  

Will history repeat itself or will Kane turn his stats into points and emerge as a reliable captain option?

TRANSFERS – GAMEWEEK 2

ManagerPeterGraemeJayMatthewMark
Players InRamseyRamseyRamseyMkhitaryan

Jones

Players OutZahaZahaZahaZaha

Valencia

GW03

Transfers

21000

Peter (aka My Pretty Pony) was the only manager last week not to make a transfer, as he dropped by to tell us in last week’s comments section. However, the low scoring start to Gameweek 2 prompted Peter into making two (kneejerk?) transfers last weekend. Hopefully he will be good enough to tell us his moves again.

Another manager who kindly told us his transfer plans ahead of the deadline last week was Graeme , as he opted for Arsenal’s Aaron Ramsey to replace the stricken Palace winger Wilfried Zaha. A move replicated by Jay and Matthew. 

The Welshman was subject to some debate over the summer and it clearly didn’t escape the attention of our Top Five that Ramsey’s attacking stats markedly improved following Arsenal’s change in formation towards the end of last season. As this hot topic pointed out, the former Welsh captain scored three goals and assisted three in the final ten matches (including FA Cup). He was also top of a members table by Giggs Boson for players who should have scored more in 2016/17.

With Chelsea’s Willian already in their teams, Ramsey was considered the next best 7.0 midfielder.

The only manager who didn’t pick Ramsey as his Zaha replacement was Mark. He instead opted to take a hit to bring in Manchester United’s Henrikh Mkhitaryan, downgrading teammate Valencia to Phil Jones. It proved a shrewd move as Mark’s two new signings earned him 16 points, which even after factoring in the cost of the hit bettered Ramsey’s return by 12 points to 2.

The Armenian is now in both Mark’s and Peter’s team.

TEMPLATE – GAMEWEEK 2

Players in Bold are in three teams or more

Foster, Elliot

Bertrand, Dann, Mee, Long, (Mbemba)

Carroll, De Bruyne, Salah, Willian, Ramsey, Loftus-Cheek

Lukaku, Kane, Jesus

PLAYERS  – GAMEWEEK 2

Players in 5 teamsLukaku, Kane, Carroll
Players in 4 teamsElliot
Players in 3 teamsJesus, De Bruyne, Salah, Willian, Ramsey, Loftus-Cheek
Attacking players under 6mCarroll x5, Loftus-Cheek x3, Fraser x2

AVERAGE COST PER PLAYER*

*based on GW1 prices

Goalkeeper – £4.35m

Defender – £4.88m

Midfielder – £6.74m

Forward – £11.03m

With three transfers made already this gameweek the template is likely to change a little.

There was a slight change in the average player cost with Mark shifting funds into midfield from defence with his move to buy Mkhitaryan. Otherwise Ramsey replaced Zaha in the template.

Lukaku, Kane and Carroll remain the only players in all five teams.

FORMATION

ManagerPeterGraemeJayMatthewMark
GW Formation4-3-33-4-34-3-33-4-33-4-3

3-4-3 was the most popular formation this week as it was throughout last season.

Although, as anticipated in last week’s HoF article, 4-3-3 made an appearance with both Peter and Jay opting for the formation. Given the way funds are spread at the moment with a hefty investment in forwards and the popularity of 4.5 midfielders Carroll and Loftus-Cheek, I expect this formation to appear more often.

Jay scored highest in a low scoring gameweek using the 4-3-3 formation.

GAMEWEEK 3

Looking ahead to Gameweek 3 the big question is surely where to put the armband – will it prove a pivotal Gameweek as Gameweek 24 did last season?

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  1. J0E
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    6 years, 7 months ago

    Thanks for this - fascinating as ever.

    Wonder how many will captain Kane, or stick with Lukaku this week?

    1. FDMS All Starz
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      6 years, 7 months ago

      Got to be Kane this week...Lukaku may get a goal but I see more from Kane than just a goal

    2. FPL.team
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      6 years, 7 months ago

      Kane has never scored in August in the PL. He didn't score against Burnley last season and Spurs are playing at Wembley again with the 'Wembley curse' still yet to be broken.

      Therefore, I am captaining Kane. I am of the theory that it has to all change at one point so why not this weekend, right 🙂

    3. TopMarx
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      6 years, 7 months ago

      Thank you as ever Jonty for your editing skills. I got Kane in for a hit this week, I'm hoping this is his week!

    4. ZaZaZu
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      6 years, 7 months ago

      Jonty, what about Aguero as captain? He seems to be overlooked.

  2. J0E
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    We try to keep comments on community articles on topic

    If you have a general enquiry or a RMT please submit via the latest main page article. cheers.

  3. Kryten
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    6 years, 7 months ago

    Love this article wheres ville ronka your gonna up set his fanboys

    1. TopMarx
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      so far he's doing very well...

  4. Totalfootball
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    6 years, 7 months ago

    Really love these top 5 HOF articles !
    Really great stuff !!

    1. TopMarx
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      thank you

  5. Gregor
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    Yep, it's been a slow start! That's not unusual for me though so hopefully things will pick up soon.

    This week I brought in Pogba whilst he was still £8m and the armband currently resides with Big Rom again.

    1. The Rumour Mill
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      Salah to Pogba then? 🙂 I was interested to see if any of the top 5 would go for Pogba after 2 had gone for Mhyki. That could be this season's version of Eriksen v Alli, or possibly a better analogy would be David Silva v Yaya from 2011-2012!

      1. The Rumour Mill
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        6 years, 7 months ago

        or rather 2013-2014, woops!

      2. Gregor
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        Yep, no doubt Salah could punish me this weekend but with Liverpool having the midweek fixture and tough games coming up I decided to take the plunge, Pogba at £8m looks like huge value and I fancy he's less prone to rotation once the Champions League kicks in.

        1. The Rumour Mill
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          6 years, 7 months ago

          I do fancy Salah to score this weekend, traditionally a high scoring fixture. Can see Firmino dropping deep and knocking passes in behind for Mane and Salah to run on to. Koskielny being back will help Arsenal though. Certainly a fixture I'm looking forward to watching!

          I agree with you Pogba looks very good value though, he's come into my team too (for Willian). I'm keeping Salah though so hoping they both score this weekend 😉

          Thats a great point on rotation, and was partly behind my thinking too on favouring him over Myki. Pogba looks like being one of Mourinho's "untouchables", like he had at Chelsea with Lampard and Terry etc. Whereas I can easily see Mhyki being rotated with Mata, Lingard etc, or even subject to formation changes and being dropped for Herrera etc.

          1. Gregor
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            Yeah, exactly.

    2. Kalou
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      6 years, 7 months ago

      Is this because there's less damage inflicted on your rank if Lukaku scores more than Kane as he's so highly owned?

      1. Gregor
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        No, I just think Lukaku edges it for me, he loves playing at home and thinking back to the first game of the season, Arsenal seemed to be cutting through that Leicester defence with ease with both teams going for it, whereas I think Burnley are more likely to park the bus.

        1. Kalou
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          6 years, 7 months ago

          Very good point.
          I recall Burnley doing that last season.

    3. TopMarx
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      fascinating posts guys, thank you

  6. The Rumour Mill
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    6 years, 7 months ago

    Interesting stuff regarding Zaha, Mark and Jonty seeing immediate returns from their moves (Miki, Mooy) whereas Ramsey dissappointed - will be fascinating to see how the points of these 3 FPL assets compare over the coming weeks.

    Should see a bit of captaincy divergence this week too!

    1. J0E
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      One of the reasons I didn't go for Ramsey is that I didn't want too many in the 7m category - one is fine but I think the sensible thing to do was to either downgrade and use the cash elsewhere or upgrade as mark did.

      A team with Willian or Ritchie/Philips and Ramsey for example is quite inflexible.

      I think captaincy will be key. Gregor has already said he's going for Lukaku, while Mark has sworn allegiance to Kane.

      TopMarx is right - this could be a pivotal week.

      1. The Rumour Mill
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        6 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah I agree, and part of the advantage of owning 7m players in the first place is that they can be up or downgraded relatively easily to adjacent price brackets. I upgraded Willian to Pogba this week using 1m i had saved itb, for example. I think Willians time is numbered with Pedro back and Hazard ever closer. The guys that switched to Ramsey may well be proved right in the long run though, they're top 5 HOF and I'm not for a reason haha 😛

        Yeah could be a few big rank changes this week! I'm backing Lukaku, hoping Maguire is ruled out with injury....

    2. Gregor
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      Aye, Ramsey was unlucky with a few chances though!

      I wasn't really expecting instant returns to be fair but Ramsey was in my initial draft ahead of Zaha before injury so that's where I went with it, hopeful it will work out in the longer term with some tasty home games coming up for the Arsenal.

  7. t4thomas
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    6 years, 7 months ago

    What is my priority here?

    Foster
    Davies | Stephens | Naughton
    Eriksen | Mané | Ramsey | Groß
    Kane (C) | Lukaku | Gabbiadini

    Elliot | Carroll | Aké | Hünemeier

    £0.5M

    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 7 months ago

      your priority is starting to drink in 5 minutes and selling Naughton for Jones after 4th pint

    2. J0E
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      We try to keep comments on community articles on topic...

      If you have a general enquiry or a RMT please submit via the latest main page article. cheers.

  8. MyPrettyPony
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    6 years, 7 months ago

    Hi, guys. On holiday this week in sunny Cornwall so best be brief. Good read as always TM, thanks.

    You're right that my knee jerked when I saw expected price changes and I got Erik and Atsu in for Salah and Fraser but I'm regretting it now. In the unlikely event it pays off it's against my better (calmer) judgement. I'm particularly annoyed at ditching Salah.

    On a separate note, lot of success last season taking hits so trying to avoid (m)any this season, to see how that compares.

    1. Gregor
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      Captain?

      1. MyPrettyPony
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        Kane I get a very late change of heart (unlikely).

      2. MyPrettyPony
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        Good luck, btw!

        1. Gregor
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          Cheers, I could do with some! Have a good one.

    2. TopMarx
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      Enjoy sunny Cornwall, hope the sun also shines on Kane this weekend 🙂 Good luck

  9. Hurricane Gilbert
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    6 years, 7 months ago

    Monreal - Keep or Shift in draft game?

    Cahill Rose Hegazi Cedric Monreal

    1. Hurricane Gilbert
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      Oops sorry

  10. Dino
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    You need to do a top 5 + the master Villa Ronka or even top 5 v Villa Ronka

    1. TopMarx
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      i will consider it 🙂 thanks

  11. FPL_JAAFAR
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    Its intriguing to see that no tottenham midfielder made the list

    1. Crystal
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      Yes but you would expect that to change this week as most are bringing in Erikson. Alli is widely owned across the game so could equally do some damage if Spurs are in the goals

    2. TopMarx
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      also all five have Kane

  12. Aseel
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    Great article. Cheers

    1. TopMarx
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      thank you

  13. Robben Mee Blind
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    Love this article. Top marks again Topmarx!

    1. TopMarx
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      cheers mate 🙂

  14. Gnu
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    Thanks Topmarx.
    Has become one of my favourite articles.
    Find it really interesting.
    Good job bud. 🙂

    1. TopMarx
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      thank you 🙂

  15. Darth_Krid
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    Top, err, marks again mate! Fantastic article and I look forward to reading it every week.

    I was dead-set on Captain Kane this week, yet for some reason after reading this I'm wavering. Lukaku could severely punish us.

    1. TopMarx
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      Thank you, he could indeed and if he does I'll read this article back and go 'what was I thinking?'!

  16. Chidi LaLa
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    6 years, 7 months ago

    Excellent article. Premium attack of Kaku, Kane and Jesus get to pay off. This could be the week where they finally explode.

    1. Chidi LaLa
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      6 years, 7 months ago

      *yet

    2. TopMarx
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      Indeed it could be, although I've done Jesus > Kane for a hit so I'm hoping it's KDB who hits form this week 🙂

  17. KickIt
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    Really like these articles!