Dugout Discussion – Wednesday

I sold Salah too. This needs to be a hot topic!

No.

Hot topic worthy but definitely mad. 🙂

Chapter 1

Selling Salah was a mistake.

Salah without Coutinho .... Factor i'd say

Dunno I ve been without salah all the season, and that is why I am behind shit teams in my league...now that he hasn’t deliver and he s out i m catching up...
Is risky to go without him as many people have him...
I think pool be ok, they got Lallana back which is always good,and also good value for fpl...

Salah was scoring even when Coutinho wasn’t

Salah scored 67pts in 8 games without Cout including 12min late sub so that argument invalid

I personally wouldn't. Cout leaving I don't think will affect him much as Cout has been injured for most of the season. I know that he's expensive at 10 but he's the leading scorer by over 20 points and is so consistent and explosive that he's worth it. He offers the best value for anyone near that price besides Sterling

+1 I'll read it later, a little boss eyed to concentrate on long posts atm.

I've always found peeps posting tldr rather rude actually.

Lol... Salah was great without Cout early in the year and people were worried Cout would take away from Salah when he got healthy...

Point 2 is completely wrong and includes mids that haven't delivered for ages etc

Ridiculous he is the best FPL this season

The "coverage" and "mids vs fwds" stuff is meaningless. You have hazard and kdb in your line up there at salahs price point. I'd back salah over either.

1. In the games where Coutinho was absent, Salah got 7G, 3A
2. Salah has 17G, 7A. And it's Jan 3rd
3. Firmino has 9G, 5A. And more streaky
4. Shoulda woulda coulda

Point 3 wrong. Firmino isn't and never has been more essential than Salah this season

I would love if lots of people got rid of Salah because I'd be getting loads of points that they're not getting.

He's scored more than 10 points in 9 of 21 games so far. Between 7 and 9 in 5 others. Madness to get rid.

Salah is more critical than Hazard or KdB currently. This could all change. But for me Salah and Sterling are a must in midfield.

PS - I sold Salah for Alli but will be buying him back after the City game.

LOL.

Thanks for putting time into this post but I think you're a tad bonkers 😆

Point 4. Before today Hazard 15pts last 6 game weeks for owners. Less than 3ppg is criminal for that price. Even after today 25 in its 3.5ppg

"..and I kept telling myself, that I should get Salah back in after City, but then it struck me, that I would rather keep Hazard.."

Were you thinking that way before Hazard scored today?

Good luck..but very likely early season KO..

If you like red arrows, go for it.

You make a good case there.

Nice post. +1

I remember some seasons back when Ronaldo cost 14.0. Everyone had him, but I was too adamant saying that he is just too expensive for one man, and was pretty sure i could match his output with 2 or 3 good players, the likes of Lampard & Gerrard. That was my worst season in FPL.

Watching Salah play u know he is going to get a goal anytime soon with the kind of runs he makes and the chances he gets. I will keep Salah. Thank you very much.

Your logic is that Coutinho leaving affect Salah but not Firmino?
Nonsense

OK, a few comments...

You will get pilloried for stuff like this on FFS as I know all too well. Most FFS managers can't stand their certainties being questioned.

Personally I will also prefer Hazard to Salah over the next 5 weeks. They are directly comparable on price now and Hazard has way better fixtures.

Some of your logic is a bit strained but I get what you are trying to say. The forwards really are a problem position right now. I have Firmino too but seeing that 50% of his last 9 or 10 goals have been assisted by Coutinho I fear that he will suffer the most if Coutinho does leave. With Coutinho in the team the creation from deeper areas comes from him and Firmino is able to play more like a striker. Without Coutinho, Firmino tends to drop off into that deeper role and the beneficiaries are Salah and Mané. Mainly Salah so far but I actually think Mané is turning the corner and could quite easily equal Salah's output over the next period.

Anyway... the managers that count up recent points and call that analysis will scoff at your idea (and have). But I think it's quite reasonable. And it would only take one transfer to correct if the tide turns against you. Whereas those that have kept the Salah comfort blanket wrapped around them and think they would lose TV by selling him will probably keep him for too long if the tide turns against them. I'd prefer to be in your position than theirs.

You have to be mad to sell Salah!!! If it was Sanchez or Hazard you all will call it madness even to think about it and all that just because 1 game doubts 😀
Seriously: No one from mentioned players can't even melt the gap of 25-30 pts that Salah is maintaining 😀 This is pure consistency and I really don't get who will throw garanteeed points every week :X :X :X

Liverpool can perform well without any of his big 4 attackers if the core is unite and teamwork is the main priority imho..
Klopp can find the solution to play without Coutinho easier atm, cuz he already did it previuosly in the course

One other point is salah might have pens now again if coutinho leaves which could give him a huge points boost

You make some great points. I also sold Salah so this post is particularly relavent to me and I'm wrestling with the same questions!

The first thing to consider is that all this may be moot anyway as Salah's injury may be a lot worse than Liverpool are letting on. If it is, those of us that ditched Salah are improving our position every week. Secondly, I'm quite happy to own Hazard over Salah (if he is fit) for GW23 given their respective fixtures and the fact Salah would be coming back from injury and may play reduced minutes.

So that leaves us the fixtures from GW24 - GW27. Pretty comparable, with a slight edge for Hazard perhaps. However, Chelsea have more fixtures in this period, with the League Cup semi final v Arsenal (2 fixtures). It remains to be seen what sort of side Conte plays here, but if it appears Conte is making it a priority then Hazard's minutes could well be hit in league fixtures over this period. It will also depend what FA cup fixtures Chelsea and Liverpool get, and whether there are any replays. All of this will need to be studied carefully, as if Hazard misses a league fixture, his chance of outperforming Salah over this period dramatically reduces. Klopp has stated before that in the form Salah is in, (and especially if Coutinho leaves), then Salah is practically undroppable (when fit). Conte has made it painfully clear to us Hazard owners that Hazard can and will be rested when appropiate.

Welcome to the member community, and thanks for an interesting read 🙂

Personally, I feel that Coutinho's absence hasn't hurt Salah in the past so see no reason to doubt his pedigree if he does indeed leave the club.

Playing devils advocate, you could even argue that more play will now be going through him so could even see an upturn in his chances or key passes.

The argument for Strikers oner Mids doesn't quite work for me - if you have a small talent pool for strikers (which I agree, mids seem better this season so far), then why allocate two or three spots when mids are showing value and form a plenty? If KDB is injured or banned, bring in Hazard, Salah, Eriksen, Sanchez etc. If you had your big three up top and one is injured, you'll need to take a hit to re-distribute funds to elsewhere or take a sub par pick.

So for me, I'm happy to work with money in DF and MF with Kane up top. I like Firmino but if i had him and he was injured, no one to bring in as a replacement since the jump to Aguero is too steep. If Kane goes, easier to replace with Aguero or Firminho without taking a hit.