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Dugout Discussion – Man United vs Stoke City

Gameweek 23 draws to a close at Old Trafford as Manchester United entertain struggling Stoke City.

Up against a defence that’s conceded more goals on the road than any side, the hosts boast three of the top 11 captains in Fantasy Premier League.

Romelu Lukaku (12.1%) remains the favoured attacker among Jose Mourinho’s contingent despite a run of two goals in the last nine Gameweeks.

Yet as evidenced by his goal and assist off the bench against Derby in the FA Cup, an enforced rest due to a head injury seems to have boosted the Belgian’s prospects.

Jesse Lingard and Paul Pogba are also highly fancied, with the former drafted in by a massive 567,000+ FPL managers in time to face the Potters.

Certainly, Lingard is the form player on show tonight, with seven goals and a pair of assists in the last nine Gameweeks. He has, however, recorded points in just one of his last four Premier League matches at home.

Meanwhile, Pogba’s 12-point haul away to Everton last time out – his first double-digit return since Gameweek 12 – hints at a return to form. However, tonight’s teamsheet indicates that the Frenchman will be deployed in a deep-lying role alongside Nemanja Matic, with Ander Herrera dropping to the bench.

Having conceded just five goals at Old Trafford, a ninth home clean sheet looks to be on the cards for David De Gea’s 42% owners tonight.

Up against an attack that have scored just three times in their last five road trips, interest in Phil Jones is on the rise – he was the top transfer target in defence for Gameweek 23, earning over 191,000 new owners.

Mourinho also welcomes back the fit-again Antonio Valencia, who makes his first appearance since Gameweek 18 after recovering from a hamstring problem.

Despite missing the last four matches, he remains the fourth top-scoring defender in FPL thanks to two goals and 11 clean sheets in 18 outings.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. King Kun Ta
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Foster (Elliot)
    Ota Christensen Ogbonna Holgate (Mee)
    Salah Sterling Arnie Son (Atsu)
    Kane Aguero (DCL)

    1 FT & 0.2 ITB

    A DCL & Atsu -> Wilson & RLC/Milivojevic (-4 + 3-4-3)
    B DCL & Atsu -> Quaner & Albrighton/Ox (-4 + 3-5-2)
    C Save FT

    Cheers!

    1. Legomané
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      C, starting XI is good, more budget striker options may emerge.

      1. King Kun Ta
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks...might do so. Who would you captain outta this bunch?

  2. Legomané
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    96 points behind top 10k, is it still possible to catch or am I too late..?

    1. Manumana
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Wot is the amount of pts to be in the top 10k ? So i can work out how many im behind. Thx. Good luck

    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Yes, especially if you've got your chips intact.

  3. Hazardous1983
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Thoughts on wc team

    Adrian (foster)
    Alonso jones kenny (mbemba kelly)
    Salah lingard sterling mahrez arnie
    Kane firminho (ayew)

    What changes should i do

    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      The core looks good.
      I would look at other GK and bench options and see what you come up with.
      Don't like Mbemba or Kelly in there. A downgrade of 1 keeper might help upgrade one of those.

  4. rodog
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Guys, got one free transfer this week - which would you suggest?

    Team:

    Pickford Speroni
    Jones Christensen Masuaku Robertson Kenny
    Arnie Salah Lingard Sterling Son
    Firmino Kane DCL

    EITHER getting Alonso in place of Christensen (goal threat and also Christ has lost me points recently not playing - I'm sure he'll play again soon but Alonso isn't getting any cheaper)

    OR getting rid of Calvert-Lewin for Wilson (primarily for team value and also I can drop a 5th mid, maybe Lingard, to the bench and play Wilson as a 3rd striker.

    1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Would get Alonso out of the two

    2. Hazardous1983
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      What is best combo

      Alonso mahrez
      Alonso pogba
      Maguire kdb
      Maguire.mahrez

      1. Astronautovic
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        A

      2. Gudjohnsen
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        B

      3. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
          6 years, 2 months ago

          A or B

      4. _Gunner
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Current team For next GW: 2FTs, 0.2 itb

        DDG
        Christensen Otamendi Vertonghen
        Salah Sterling Arnautovic Son
        Kane DCL Firmino

        subs: Speroni Ogbonna RLC Mee

        1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Don’t play DCL

            1. _Gunner
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Ogbonna instead then?

              1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
                  6 years, 2 months ago

                  Yeah probably - decent fixture although I don’t fully trust WH def

                  1. _Gunner
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 2 months ago

                    I have 2 Frees though, I have to use one

                    1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        Sell DCL then.
                        Either upgrade to Wilson or downgrade to Ayew, Crouch or Niasse if he moves

                        1. _Gunner
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          DCL is moving?

                          1. tordud
                            • 9 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            I think he's talking about Niasse, who's being rumoured away.

              2. Takedog1
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Will christenson play??

                1. _Gunner
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 2 months ago

                  with Cahil out, I think he will yes. If not, then I am definetly selling.

            2. arkom
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Salah - Sterling - Lingard - Arnie - Willian
              Kane - Vardy - Depoitre

              Save or do Willian to Oxlade-Chamberlain for free?

              Ox is nailed, right? My only concern is that Willian starts next game and can also make points..

            3. pakornk
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Schmeichel looks like a good pick for a gk?

              1. Astronautovic
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Yes

              2. Over Midwicket
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Could do worse

            4. Albrightondknight
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Can someone tell what is the D. Silva situation
              Are his personal problems over?
              If yes why was he on the bench. A rest or tactical?

              At 8 mil and with City fixtures he could be great, but would want to know there are not a lot of doubts about his minutes.

              1. Pellegrini Falcon
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                He was ill for the Liverpool game. I don't think his situation is okay yet, he may still continue shuttling between Spain and England, hold for now

                1. Albrightondknight
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 2 months ago

                  Thanks.

            5. Evil Genius
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              This should be OK for a few weeks, right?

              Adrian
              Ota, Alonso, Kenny
              Salah, Sterling, Lingard, Arnie, Ibe
              Kane, Kun

              Speroni, DCL, Masuaku, Dunk

              1. Astronautovic
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Yes

            6. Astronautovic
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Makes
              Depoitre to wilson or
              Fabianksi to pickford more sense?

              1. Evil Genius
                • 6 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Wilson

                1. Astronautovic
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 2 months ago

                  Thanks

              2. Over Midwicket
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Both for a hit

            7. samaael
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Elliot
              Jones/ Christensen/ Ogbonna/ Mee
              Hazard/ Salah/ Sterling/ Richarlison
              Lacazette/ Kane

              Foster/ Kenny/ DCL/ Chalobah*

              a) Hazard to Mahrez/ Laca to Firmino/ Christensen to Alonso -4
              b) Hazard to Mahrez/ Laca to Firmino/ Ogbonna to Alonso -4
              c) Hazard to pogba/ Laca to Firmino/ Ogbonna to Alonso -4

              1. Reuser
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                All good options - would probably go with b) - although I guess the extra money you would have ITB with a) could come in very useful for upgrading DCL or Chalobah....

              2. Dreaming of glory
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                B

            8. Botman and Robben
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Elliot
              Jones Alonso Mee Otamendi
              Sterling Eriksen Salah Son
              Morata Firmino

              Fabianski DCL T.Carroll Kabasele

              Possible WC to this? Yes or No

              Courtois
              Jones Alonso Otamendi
              Sterling Arnautovic Salah Lingard
              Kane Wilson Firmino

              Elliot Mee T.Carroll Ogbonna

              1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
                  6 years, 2 months ago

                  I wouldn’t WC.
                  But get in Kane and Arnie for Morata and Eriksen

              2. alexdelarge
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Anyone willing to explain second wildcard and end date. Does it have to be January or can I use anytime rest of season?
                Thx

                1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
                    6 years, 2 months ago

                    Anytime
                    I would suggest saving for setting up for DGWs if your team can handle it at the moment

                2. DeadStarComing
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  6 years, 2 months ago

                  I obviously don't fully understand price changes. Anyone have a good explanation as to why Salah didn't drop with -489,201 net transfers out but has now gone up when he got around 100,00 net transfers in? I'm looking at his FPL info page if that helps.

                  1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
                      6 years, 2 months ago

                      So you and the 931 other posters would have something to complain about 😉

                      1. DeadStarComing
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        I'm not complaining, yet! 🙂 . I am concerned though. There's a part of this game I love that I don't understand.

                        1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            Haha good 😉
                            I think it had something to do with DGWs, his high ownership and him being flagged.
                            But I din’t Really get it either, but there are A LOT of posts about it if you go back through the pages

                            1. DeadStarComing
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 13 Years
                              6 years, 2 months ago

                              Cheers. I own Salah by the way 🙂

                      2. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
                        • 7 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        No one knows.

                      3. Pasqualinho
                        • 14 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        I’ll have a go. Flagged players above base price require a 10%(ish) drop in ownership for each drop. Salah is owned by 3M players so needs approx 300k of qualifying (no WC, FH, new teams) transfers for each drop while flagged. But only needs 60k qualifying transfers in for a rise.

                        1. DeadStarComing
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 13 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          I would have thought the FPL net transfers number wouldn't count the free hit chip? Wildcards possibly. Why would he only need 60K for a rise but 300K for a drop? Is that how it works?

                          1. Pasqualinho
                            • 14 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            Yep. A rise is a flat rate for all players, a drop is based on a % of ownership for flagged players or those at or below original price. When an unflagging player is above original price then it’s a flat rate (the same rate as for a rise). He needed 300k for a drop because of his ownership % and flag. Now he’s flag-free he should drop when he loses 60k owners.

                            1. DeadStarComing
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 13 Years
                              6 years, 2 months ago

                              Wow. I didn't know this. How do you if you don't mind me asking? FPL don't give out this kind of info. So if a highly owned player gets flagged he's very unlikely to drop then? Interesting to know.

                              1. Pasqualinho
                                • 14 Years
                                6 years, 2 months ago

                                Years of painstaking plagiarism. It’s not actually documented anywhere public - but if you search on FISO crack the code you can see how the algorithm was originally deciphered, but this was over 10 years ago. FPL Towers change it season by season, sometimes drastically, to keep everyone on their toes.

                                1. DeadStarComing
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  6 years, 2 months ago

                                  Well I do know one thing - the reason they keep it secret is because they tweak it during the season (which I find unfair). Thanks for the help.

                    • Reuser
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      6 years, 2 months ago

                      Really want to bring in Arnie for Lingard - but will need to generate an additional 0.1m somewhere and take a -4.

                      Any ideas?

                      Pope (Myhill)
                      Alonso, Otamendi, Obgonna, Kenny, (Mbemba)
                      Salah, Sterling, Son, Lingard (RLC)
                      Kane, Aguero (Niasse)

                      Ideally I would want to make move that improves my team in some way (rather than switching fodder for fodder).

                      Considering Otamendi to Stones - as that would free up cash for future improvements. Or is Chilwell an alternative to Ogbonna/Kenny?

                      Thanks.

                      1. Delhidynamo
                        • 9 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        Just get Lanzini?

                        1. Man Chest Hair United
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Lanzini

                        2. Reuser
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Thanks - that is a decent option as well, I guess.

                    • Astronautovic
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 2 months ago

                      Is Pickford or schmeichel the better option in goal?

                      1. Man Chest Hair United
                        • 9 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        Toss a coin both have inconsistent defence. Schmeichel has great fixtures for the rest of the season

                    • Man Chest Hair United
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 2 months ago

                      Most clan sheets from now till gw 28?
                      Got to be Chelsea yeah

                      1. Over Midwicket
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        City

                    • Delhidynamo
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 2 months ago

                      A) Mariappa & Alli ➡ Alonso & Chamberlain

                      B) Quaner & Alli ➡ Obiang & Firmino

                      Repost, was bottomed

                      1. Man Chest Hair United
                        • 9 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        A

                      2. Reuser
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 10 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        A

                      3. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          A

                        • Delhidynamo
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Cheers for the replies guys, I know Chamberlain isn't nailed but he's essentially replacing Mariappa and gives me a nice option

                      4. SpiritRising
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 6 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        I learnt a valuable lesson this week to just concentrate on your own game and ignore other people's teams. I was ranked around 5k and started to have aspirations of winning the whole thing. I looked at number 1 in the world and seen one person I had who he didn't have was Morata so I took the captaincy off Kane and put it on Morata. I should have left such gambles until further down the line and played it safe for now.

                        1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                          • 7 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Yeah Morata has been terrible. Too many people play like this, picking worse options for the sake of it, when mathematically it's unsound to make these decisions in the long run. Sometimes it's a case of not losing ground, rather than gaining.

                        2. Jack Burton
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          done the same wasnt catching my ml leader took out kane trying to be clever big mistake never got salah or ota because he has them also

                      5. Jon Bones Jones
                        • 6 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        Would you do this for -8?
                        Hazard, RLC, Morata to Mahrez, Arnautovic, Firmino

                        1. JariL
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          No

                        2. Man Chest Hair United
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Yes I think I would easily make the points back

                        3. Eze Really?
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Only 1. maximum 2

                      6. Man Chest Hair United
                        • 9 Years
                        6 years, 2 months ago

                        Best move here?

                        Pope Elliot
                        Alonso Ottemendi Jones Christensen Mee
                        Salah Sterling Alli Son Arnie
                        Kane Depoitre Quaner

                        1 ft 1.2 itb

                        A alli to KDB
                        B alli to Mane
                        C pope to Courtouis
                        D Depoitre to Wilson
                        E save

                        1. Licious Lizard (delete acc)
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            E

                          • JariL
                            • 9 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            I'd say you're good to save this week and then reassess next week, possibly a double transfer including Alli out.

                            1. Man Chest Hair United
                              • 9 Years
                              6 years, 2 months ago

                              Probably the best bet.

                              Was intending KDB in but not sure he is worth the outlay

                              1. JariL
                                • 9 Years
                                6 years, 2 months ago

                                I'm in a similar situation as well. also considering Alli to KDB. I have 2FTs though.

                                1. Man Chest Hair United
                                  • 9 Years
                                  6 years, 2 months ago

                                  Do you think KDB is better than Mane and Mahrez?

                                  1. JariL
                                    • 9 Years
                                    6 years, 2 months ago

                                    Might be, but is he worth the extra outlay? That's a tough one...

                        2. THFC4LIFE
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 7 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Anything worth a transfer?

                          Adrian
                          Alonso Jones Davies
                          Sterling Salah Lingard Rich Albrighton
                          Kane Kun

                          Ryan Ayew Masuaku Bardsley

                          1ft 0itb

                          1. Man Chest Hair United
                            • 9 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            No hit needed

                            1. THFC4LIFE
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 7 Years
                              6 years, 2 months ago

                              For free?

                              1. Man Chest Hair United
                                • 9 Years
                                6 years, 2 months ago

                                Nope would only want one of Lingard Richarlison going forward though

                        3. Fpl Richie
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 8 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Given their current prices, if the Sanchez/Mkhi swap happens, who are you more interested in and why?

                          A. Sanchez
                          B. Mkhi
                          C. Neither

                          1. Chris_White
                            • 12 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            b

                            1. Chris_White
                              • 12 Years
                              6 years, 2 months ago

                              They don't care about defending and I think his game really suits Arsenal

                        4. Chris_White
                          • 12 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Pogba or Mahrez(-4) for the long term?

                          1. Man Chest Hair United
                            • 9 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            Mahrez has much better fixtures but Pogba looks in form. Keep Pogba for this week

                            1. Chris_White
                              • 12 Years
                              6 years, 2 months ago

                              I don't have any of them atm

                        5. Ruinenlust
                          • 6 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          I am now ranked 3k.

                          1. The EJJ
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 12 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            big up

                        6. The EJJ
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 12 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Damn, tough week. Got 70 (-4) and a red arrow. My team is good, just felt like if you didn't have Firmino or Arnautovic you were going to get a red

                        7. Pellegrini Falcon
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Keep Rooney for WBA (H)? or sell for Vardy

                          1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
                            • 7 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            Keep

                        8. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
                          • 7 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Wow. Just read the Mark did Morata to Vardy. Really got me thinking. I was going to go Morata to Firmino but that extra cash I can upgrade Christensen to Alonso for free. Vardy only owned by 8.3% of teams in top 10k. Nice differential as I'm hovering at 14k.

                        9. jose1
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 2 months ago

                          Can you use a wildcard in the same week as your bench boost?

                          1. Ahtikullervo
                            • 6 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            No

                            1. jose1
                              • 9 Years
                              6 years, 2 months ago

                              Correct me if I’m wrong.

                              Then would the most effective way to use the bench boost and wildcard would be this scenario.

                              Week before DGW use wildcard to prepare. Use bench boost on DGW?

                              1. Pellegrini Falcon
                                • 9 Years
                                6 years, 2 months ago

                                Yup that's a common strategy

                                1. jose1
                                  • 9 Years
                                  6 years, 2 months ago

                                  Think it’s spot on. In the last 23 game weeks I’ve never had a bench that would even worth a bench boost. Needs to be utilised in the best way.

                                  When would you use your free hit?

                                  1. Pellegrini Falcon
                                    • 9 Years
                                    6 years, 2 months ago

                                    Probably to navigate a gameweek with lots of blanks, get in whoever is playing just for that week. Would wait for more news on fixture changes first, hard to predict anything atm

                          2. _Gunner
                            • 9 Years
                            6 years, 2 months ago

                            No