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The Digest – Gameweek 23

Our coverage of Gameweek 23 concludes this evening as we take a look at the key player, the team and the talking point to draw our attention from the latest round of matches.

Marko Arnautovic continues to profit from his recent move up front for West Ham. Liverpool put four past Manchester City in their first match without Philippe Coutinho, while the steady firming up of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) template squad appears to have accelerated, urging us to seek out alternatives.

The Player

Marko Arnautovic more than atoned for a disappointing double Gameweek 22.

After shrugging off a hamstring niggle, the Austrian delivered a goal and two assists in West Ham’s 4-1 win at Huddersfield to end Gameweek 23 as the top scoring player on 16 points.

That proved a chastening experience for the 114,000 owners who chose to part company before the Hammers’ head-to-head with David Wagner’s side.

Prior to his Gameweek 22 encounters with West Brom and Spurs, Arnautovic was one of the hottest properties around – having netted five times in as many appearances over Gameweek 16-20, he was drafted in by over 368,000 FPL managers.

But injury ruled him out of the trip to Wembley, leaving him with just five points over Gameweek 22, thanks to an assist for Andy Carroll’s late winner against the Baggies.

As evidenced on Saturday, Arnautovic’s out-of-position potential under David Moyes grows steadily by the Gameweek.

The underlying statistics also back up his claim.

Since netting his first of the season against Chelsea in Gameweek 16, he’s ranked fifth for both shots in the box (16) and efforts on target (nine) among midfielders.

Arnautovic has fired six goals across that stretch – that’s equal to Mohamed Salah and second only to Harry Kane’s 10.

With a home encounter against Bournemouth up next, he leads the way for new owners – over 146,000 have already recruited him since Saturday’s deadline.

The short-term schedule continues to smile kindly – over the next six, West Ham also host Crystal Palace and Watford and travel to Brighton and Swansea.

At the cost of just 7.0 in FPL, Arnautovic’s current form suggests that he could even remain a key figure in our squads when the fixtures turn against Moyes’ men in Gameweek 30.

And judging by his manager’s recent comments, we can expect the Austrian to remain in his new central role from this point onwards:

“When you play out wide, you might not get enough of the ball, so I actually think that we’ve given him a chance to get on the ball, to get more of the ball.
“He’s a big man to get the ball off as well, he’s got speed, he’s got power, so we’re trying to give him the ball as often as we can.

The Team

If there were fears over their Fantasy potential in light of Philippe Coutinho’s switch to Barcelona, Liverpool took a huge stride towards putting them to rest on Sunday afternoon.

A 4-3 win over Man City ended the league leaders’ unbeaten start to the domestic season and hands Jurgen Klopp’s men momentum ahead of a very encouraging run-in to 2017/18.

Indeed, between now and the end of the campaign, the Reds face just three of the current top eight sides – at home to Spurs in Gameweek 26, along with trips to Manchester United and Chelsea in Gameweeks 30 and 37 respectively.

From front to back, investment in Klopp’s side looks a wise move.

Salah’s goal and assist against Pep Guardiola’s team – his tenth double-figure haul of the campaign – was matched by Roberto Firmino, who climbed to second behind Kane in the FPL forward standings.

And Sadio Mane made it a clean sweep of goals from the Reds’ front three – he has now returned points in three successive Gameweeks.

Yet it was Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain’s goal and assist that could bring him to the fore as a potential budget gem at just 5.6.

Granted, his pitch-time is still unclear – only eight of his 20 appearances since arriving from Arsenal were in the first XI. However, he’s now been named on the teamsheet in three of the last four Gameweeks, bagging 28 points.

At the back, the premium-priced Virgil van Dijk’s (5.5) aerial threat should profit the Reds in both boxes.

Expected to recover from a hamstring complaint for Monday’s trip to Swansea, the Dutchman arguably looks the only secure route into a defence that, prior to the weekend, had the best home defensive record in the league.

Elsewhere in their rearguard, Andrew Robertson (4.7) and Loris Karius (4.8) could offer cheaper options to the expensive Van Dijk if they can cement regular berths.

But a double or even triple-up on their attack – providing Oxlade-Chamberlain nails down a starting role – could end up being the preferred strategy, though much depends on the severity of Klopp’s rotation policy once the Champions League resumes next month.

The Talking Point

The output of budget-friendly players such as Arnautovic has triggered the gradual evolution of a template FPL squad in recent weeks.

With the Austrian and Jesse Lingard offering mid-price value in the centre of the park, funds have been freed up to acquire the seemingly near-essential Marcos Alonso at the back.

Factor in the growing popularity of Son Heung-min and Firmino, along with mainstays such as Kane, Salah and Raheem Sterling, and suddenly there’s a very similar look to many of our line-ups.

Those managers chasing down leads in mini-leagues face a dilemma – do they keep faith with this template or look for ways of breaking it in an attempt to make up ground?

Looking at the short-term fixtures can help.

The recent injury to Gabriel Jesus means that, suddenly, Sergio Aguero is a far more appealing option for back-to-back home encounters with Newcastle and West Brom. Undoubtedly, he is one of the main captain candidates for this weekend.

Leicester’s upcoming batch of home matches – (WAT SWA STK BOU) in the next six Gameweeks – now brings Riyad Mahrez and Jamie Vardy into the picture as potential alternatives for the likes of Son and Firmino.

Elsewhere, Arnautovic’s team-mate Manuel Lanzini and Bournemouth’s Callum Wilson have the form and fixtures as low-owned differentials.

And there’s also the January transfer window to help smash the currently accepted options.

Everton have already added Cenk Tosun to their ranks and are closing in on a deal for Theo Walcott ahead of three promising fixtures in four (WBA LEI CRY).

Alexis Sanchez’s apparent move to Man United could potentially bring last season’s top scoring FPL player back into the frame after a disappointing start to the season at Arsenal.

But if current press stories are anything to go by, it’s the Gunners themselves who could offer the most intriguing options as Wenger looks to restructure in light of the Chilean’s impending departure.

Not only is he looking to bring Henrikh Mkhitaryan to the Emirates as part of the Sanchez swap, the Arsenal manager’s mooted moves for Dortmund frontman Pierre Emerick Aubameyang and Bordeaux’s highly-rated Malcolm could help enliven Fantasy managers’ options in the final third.

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  1. Smitser
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Gross to albrighton or ramsey (assuming sanchez leaves)?

    1. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      I'd keep Gross

      1. Thinkering like a Boss
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Keep vs Chelsea? No way

        1. Chazz69
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          After the Chelsea game, Brighton have a great schedule, and on top of this fact, Chelsea are panicking currently

      2. Smitser
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        I considered that but bham are not scoring goals...

    2. MTPockets
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Ramsey if fit.

      • Srv210
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Albrighton, as arsenal are in Baad place and probably GW 28 blank

    3. james 101
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Who will score more over next few weeks?

      A. Kdb/Mee
      B. Arnie/Azpil

      Thanks!!

      1. james 101
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Actually, could play Mee or Ogbonna so it's really

        kdb/(mee/og)

        Vs

        Arnie/Azpil

      2. Thinkering like a Boss
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        B

        1. james 101
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Yep. Just difficult losing kdb with next fixture in mind!

        2. james 101
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Thanks though

      3. Zladan
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Assume you already have the essential Alonso. There are cheaper Chelsea double up options.

        1. james 101
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Yep. I got Zo a while back.

          Azpil and him are the two big scorers though...

          1. Zladan
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            Azpi is good for Clean Sheets and the odd BPS. Overpriced per point in my opinion. Liverpool assets could be a cheap way into Clean Sheets and attacking returns in the next few games. Robertson in particular.

            1. james 101
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 3 months ago

              Thanks mate

    4. sunzip14
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      2FT, 0.6 itb. Team:

      DDG, Elliot
      Alonso, Ota, Mee, Ogbonna, Long
      Salah, Sterling, Son, Arnie, Richarlison
      Kane, Firmino, Quaner

      What do I do now?
      A) Richarlison>Lanzini
      B)Richarlison>Ox
      C)Richarlison>Lingard
      D)Richarlison+Quaner>Ox+Wilson
      E) Others (please suggest)

      1. james 101
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Lingard has been on fire recently. I got him in a while back. No regrets.

      2. Zladan
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Not Lingard. Bandwagon has been and gone and is now overvalued.

        1. james 101
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Really?

          Joint 7th on the form list for mids, and way cheaper than most above him on that list...

          1. Zladan
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            I’m not sold on his run of games and game time.

            Too much rotation risk among Lingard, Martial, Rashford, Mata... throw Alexis Sanchez in that mix in the coming week and suddenly Lingard is an expensive substitute.

            1. james 101
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 3 months ago

              Sanchez is my concern there

              1. Zladan
                • 6 Years
                6 years, 3 months ago

                I opted for Pogba last week ahead of Lingard for the reasons above.

      3. Thinkering like a Boss
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        C

      4. The White Pele
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        A

      5. Pukki Party
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Lanzini played 120min yesterday, maybe Arnautovic in

    5. Climb the ranks as others slip up
      Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      As a more coherent template forms, in some sense the game becomes more about "not losing ground" by behind punished by high ownership players. At this stage there is more data on season performance, so we have better predictors of future performance, and ownership certainly becomes more of a factor in our thinking.

      Solid fundamentals will guarantee you rise in the ranks towards the end of the season - let those less experienced make the mistakes by choosing differentials for the sake of differentials, rather than as calculated risks. Look for situations where you might be punished and mitigate the chance of this happening.

      1. MTPockets
          6 years, 3 months ago

          "let those less experienced make the mistakes by choosing differentials" - agreed.

          1. james 101
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            Yep. We all make mistakes though. However experienced we are.

            And the line between genius and idiot is often no more than the width of a goalpost...

            1. MTPockets
                6 years, 3 months ago

                Yeah, could edit that to just "let others make the mistake of choosing differentials".

            2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 3 months ago

              I said for the sake of it, obviously picking calculated differentials is a very different thing. You see it on here all the time, people choosing loss-leader strategies for no reason other than they think they should do something different, but it ends up not being ground in logic.

              1. MTPockets
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Is there such a thing as an un-calculated differential though, in practice?

                  1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Yes

                    1. MTPockets
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Perhaps you're confusing what's logical to you with what's logical to others.

                  2. Pieterke30
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Like I did, captaining Lingard last GW?

                    Still think it could have paid off. Until that offside goal, Kane hadn't done anything at all.

              2. FrankieTheGent
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 3 months ago

                I see Mahrez as being a season-statistics backed differential.

                1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Agree

                2. MTPockets
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    But he's 12% owned - not really a differential.

                3. Ephurion
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Yeah, but you don't win it all by going all template. You'll get a very solid rank, but that's about it.

                4. Ruth_NZ
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  "I'm a limited and mediocre manager and everyone should copy my pedestrian approach to the game".

                  1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    You're a clown. And I didn't say that.

                    1. La Roja
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      You’re a clowner though. You did say that.

                      1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                        • 8 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Wrong. I never used the word should.

                  2. Numb
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    This is pretty much how us mediocre managers in the upper echelons of the Hall of Fame play the game.

                    1. Ruth_NZ
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Which is why the HOF means zip. 🙂

                      1. Numb
                        • 9 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        If you like.

                        I know people say it's all about winning FPL but, realistically, that is more about having an incredible amount of luck across 38 gameweeks (and a certain level of skill and knowledge of course) - law of averages, someone is going to have this out of millions of players. Most winners don't get anywhere near it in other years they play.

                        1. Ruth_NZ
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          If we are talking seriously then it does mean zip to me. That's why I have never entered a FFS main league - because I don't want to be part of the HOF system. It encourages people to think that playing for a safe outcome is the way to go.

                          This is a game. I don't want to play it like a risk manager. 🙂

                          1. Mark
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • Has Moderation Rights
                            • 17 Years
                            6 years, 3 months ago

                            I don't think doing well in the HoF breeds safety first. Jay's top. Not sure you can accuse him of safety first all the time.

                            I personally don't play to the HoF rank but I do use it to check on how managers around me are doing, what players they have etc.

                            As a guide to the achievements and pedigree of the managers within the FFS leagues it does the job, surely?

                            Of course there are great managers with great records not in the HoF but a glance at manager history easily translates to the HoF, so we can compare.

                            I think it would be very difficult to find managers with a better record than Jay or Peter K from the last three seasons.

                            1. Ruth_NZ
                              • 9 Years
                              6 years, 3 months ago

                              No, Jay is a good example of someone that thinks for himself. I wouldn't call him mediocre and pedestrian. But it is also true that regular top 10k finishes - which in all honesty aren't that hard to achieve - will see you pretty high in the HOF and that encourages many to think in the safety-first way the OP does.

                              1. Sims
                                • 7 Years
                                6 years, 3 months ago

                                Very good point about constantly finishing top 10k not being hard. I'd rather finish top 100 and 1m than finish top 6k and 9k in 2 seasons

                                1. Millie7
                                  • 10 Years
                                  6 years, 3 months ago

                                  Riiiiiight

                              2. Lanley Staurel
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 13 Years
                                6 years, 3 months ago

                                Some truth in this. The only season I finished top 10k during the past 15 years was my most boring. Thrilled to be up there but it was a product of a good start and then painstaking risk mitigation research around ownership across the top 10k to ensure I stayed up there. I almost forgot to watch the games!

                            2. RedLightning
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 13 Years
                              6 years, 3 months ago

                              It was said of a certain 19th century chess player that he would play boring moves for 4 hours and then scintillate in the 5th; others also played boring moves, but forgot to scintillate.

                              You can go a long way by playing safe, but to reach the top you need something extra.

                      2. Yozzer
                        • 6 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Agreed . The whole hall of fame is a sham. For a start don't you have to be part of the ffs league to even be in it. Wonder how many players have better records than these guys and are not even in it.

                        1. Fitzy.
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 12 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          OK, let's just call it the FFS league HOF - that should fix your concerns?

                          1. Sims
                            • 7 Years
                            6 years, 3 months ago

                            Also, it's going to sound like I'm trying to cover my poor seasons but Hof definitely places u higher if youre an average player whose taken this game seriously and finished 70k/80k etc for 5 straight years then someone who finished 3m 3 years ago followed by 2 top 4k finishes since then. I'd rate the latter higher

                      3. Hotdogs for Tea
                        • 8 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Agreed, the FPL game has changed with respect to the information available and results from 5 or 10 years ago are irrelevant in today’s landscape.

                        I would love to see a rolling ‘last 3 year’ HoF as a real indicator of the best players today ... will never happen because it is like asking the turkeys to vote for an extra Christmas 😉

                        1. Mark
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • Has Moderation Rights
                          • 17 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          The more recent seasons are given far stronger weighting so that's already built in.

                          Oh, and I've come 42nd and 115th in the last three seasons so I don't think your idea would go down very well.

                          1. Hotdogs for Tea
                            • 8 Years
                            6 years, 3 months ago

                            What about players that have only played 3 seasons or don’t have a long historical record of FPL? Not sure weighting helps them much ?

                            The HoF should be 3 years or something, not weighted in my humble opinion.

                            Why not run a last 3 year HoF as an article ‘old guard v new blood’? I would think that many would like to see that ?

                            You have all the data and just need to remove weighting abd delete previous years from the spread sheet - 30 minute job 🙂

                            1. Mark
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 17 Years
                              6 years, 3 months ago

                              Not adverse that, just not sure what the results would be - a lot of the names at the top of the Career HoF would still be up there because they've all had strong last three seasons. The weighting is already pretty effective.

                              I'll ask Chris and see what it turns up.

                              1. Hotdogs for Tea
                                • 8 Years
                                6 years, 3 months ago

                                HoF based upon last 3 years (top 500 in existing Hof considered) aggregate 3 year total and un-weighted 🙂

                                The top 28 never finished outside the top 5000 !

                                1 1 Peter Kouwenberg
                                2 10 Paul Marshman
                                3 46 Sean Connors
                                4 56 Julian Gordon
                                5 59 Ken Meade
                                6 127 Tessa Baker
                                7 81 Petteri Ylimaa
                                8 409 Thomas Aplin
                                9 11 Geoff Dance
                                10 108 John Golding
                                11 89 Brooklyn Gooner
                                12 52 Dan Bennett
                                13 97 Jeff Ryan
                                14 28 Hooky .
                                15 18 Petter Gullestad
                                16 175 Seamus Larrissey
                                17 222 Ian Emamalie
                                18 202 David Curnick
                                19 102 Billy Ketsu
                                20 4 Matthew Jones
                                25 9 David Meechan
                                35 2 Graeme Sumner
                                49 8 Phil Ampleford
                                115 3 Jay Egersdorff
                                218 5 Mark Sutherns
                                261 6 Lester Cheng
                                394 7 Cormac O'…

                                1. Hotdogs for Tea
                                  • 8 Years
                                  6 years, 3 months ago

                                  No 6 needs to be deleted, only has 2 out of last 3 years

                                2. JasonG123
                                  • 10 Years
                                  6 years, 3 months ago

                                  Apologies for the necro but can you tell me where I'd be based on the list 3 seasons only? I'm not in the top 500 so not included in this list but think I'd be up there.

                                  1. Hotdogs for Tea
                                    • 8 Years
                                    6 years, 3 months ago

                                    Tell me your position on HoF (upto 2017 season, not the current rolling HoF) because I need to find you and I will see what I can do

                                  2. JasonG123
                                    • 10 Years
                                    6 years, 3 months ago

                                    I am 1027. Thank you!

                          2. Ruth_NZ
                            • 9 Years
                            6 years, 3 months ago

                            You are a top manager, Mark, everyone knows that. Care to comment upon how much of your decision-making is based on the fear of "losing ground"? 🙄

                            1. Mark
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • Has Moderation Rights
                              • 17 Years
                              6 years, 3 months ago

                              Good timing as it happens, Ruth.

                              I'd say it's a healthy balance between maintaining rank and trying to get a hike. I'd probably say I was 40:60 though - I tend to go for a "hollywood pass" rather than a "simple ball" - probably to my detriment.

                              See my decision to opt for Vardy over Firmino and last night's ScoutCast. Probably a mistake and not having Firmino recently has lost me ground. I might well lose more ground but I was driven to try something different and see if Vardy can exploit his fixtures.

                              If he fails vs Watford and Firmino delivers, I'll likely concede and bring in the Liverpool man, but I wanted to have a go.

                              1. Ruth_NZ
                                • 9 Years
                                6 years, 3 months ago

                                Yep. Look, I am as aware of ownership and risk management as anyone. Probably more than most. I just don't choose to have my strategy defined by it as the OP is proposing.

                                I don't know of any sphere of life where "playing not to lose" is better than "playing to win". The former will deliver safer and more predictable results. The latter is where excellence comes from, even if it means falling flat on your face a few times in the process. 🙂

                                1. Mark
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • Has Moderation Rights
                                  • 17 Years
                                  6 years, 3 months ago

                                  I agree Ruth. I lean towards your way of thinking and my recent move above demonstrates that. I could go with Firmino and guarantee not to lose ground and perhaps creep up the ranks as I have been doing over the last 4 GW's.

                                  The alternative is to take a calculated risk on a player who could outscore Firmino over a short time frame and try to achieve a bigger green arrow, at the risk of losing ground.

                                  I went the latter.

                                  But that's just me. I don't see either strategy right or wrong as such but I do think a balance can be achieved.

                                  I'd probably say that sustained risk taking is not the way to go but neither is continually covering ownership to hold position and ignoring viable alternatives when they crop up.

                                  Those who win FPL probably get that balance spot on at every turn - either through luck or judgement.

                                  1. tisza
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    6 years, 3 months ago

                                    question for you & Ruth.
                                    Top 500 for about 7 weeks now (never been this high). Mainly because I've had 4 or 5 of the so-called template since GW1.
                                    Different mindset required? - as always achieved rank by chasing up until end of season through being a bit cavalier(or desperate).

                                  2. Ruth_NZ
                                    • 9 Years
                                    6 years, 3 months ago

                                    If you want my advice, ignore the OR and just play. 🙂

                                  3. Pieterke30
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 7 Years
                                    6 years, 3 months ago

                                    Mostly luck, as we all know.

                        1. Ruth_NZ
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          So, where do I apply for my mug? 😀

                    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      😆

                5. GreenWindmill
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  I literally never look at ownership/rivals' teams, etc.

                  Buying/keeping/captaining a player for any reason other than you think they're the best option for your team is completely alien to me. Most of the time I have a fairly 'template' team anyway because the popular choices are usually popular for good reason and I have a pretty dull style so my transfers are often aligned to the trends but my motivation is never to be tactically defensive.

                  Perhaps I'd have better ranks if I did buy/captain players because they have high ownership but I wouldn't like to play the game that way.

                  Each to their own though 🙂

                  I agree about not picking differentials for the sake of it though, that's basically the same as my approach described above - I don't pick low or high ownership players for the sake of it.

                  1. Deulofail
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    +1

                6. J0E
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 14 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Agree. We discussed this on the Scoutcast last night too. Climbing the rankings is as much about avoiding the mistakes of others around you as it is about the choices we make.

                  Dumping Salah is a case in point. Lots in the top 10K dumped him and in Gameweek 23 it meant they suffered, and arguably will continue to do so until they get him back.

                  1. Hotdogs for Tea
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Surely most dumped Salah for his blank week replaced him with a Spurs or WHU player that played twice, and brought Salah straight back for GW23 or will do for this coming game week ?

                    - Arnie, Son, Alli & Eriksen (typical one week replacement players) considerably out scored Salah over GWs 22 & 23 combined
                    - Arnie and Son outscored Salah this week alone, Alli and Eriksen were not for behind Salah

                    I doubt many 'suffered' much and also doubt any sensible player is going without Salah this game week to 'continue to do so'?

                    Perhaps the only reasons to hold Salah is this obsession with team value and the fear of actually trying something different?

                    (No hits were necessarily taken in this production 😉 )

                    1. J0E
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 14 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      But while those who want him back are spending a transfer on that move others can be a step ahead - look at Leic assets for example or an upgrade elsewhere.

                      Hard to measure that but using two transfers over a three gwk period on a player that is needed back quickly could in itself be the true cost of ditching Salah.... as well as spending more to get him back , for those breadhead managers.

                      1. Hotdogs for Tea
                        • 8 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Lots of ‘ifs and buts’ there .... but the most transferred in player was Lingard and I am sure many would have been happy with a wasted transfer bringing back Salah instead 🙂

                        1. Chris_H
                          • 14 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          I ditched Salah as part of a hit which enabled me to get Alli+Vert, so across 22+23 I am up in points. I do now have to 'spend' a transfer to get him back and had I got him back last week I would be further up but it did take a brain fart from Ederson to get him to 11 points.

                7. thes7s
                  • 10 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Luck still plays a role, I got Lanzini instead of Arnie for the week he got 15 pts, on grounds of Arnie minutes weren't solid enough. Over that run Lanzini got 37 as opposed to 52 from Arnie, Now everyone is getting him and am stuck with Lanzini coz i won't waste a transfer on a sideway move for West ham players tbh.

                8. Feyzi
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Whilst my team is already a template team ranking at 55k, I find this advice reasonable and almost sure to succeed, yet at the same time boring and impersonal. I do not want my team to play like Mourinho's Inter against Barcelona. It will help me climb gradually, but with no real satisfaction since it will not be my own personal preferences that led to the climb, but the folly of the masses.

                  1. ktk_interista
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Well Inter won the CL that year against all odds so your analogy sucks tbh 🙂

                    1. Feyzi
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      But that was exactly my point; I will climb up and finish 20k in a boring way and win my mini-league but where is the beauty of it?

                9. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Surprised this got a HT. All I'm saying is this is another way of thinking. Every week there is a certain points ceiling, and we're trying to get as close to that ceiling as consistently as is possible. Obviously you have to play for the long term which is why it's not always sensible getting caught up in the glory of a 90 point gameweek if your average over the last six weeks is 50.

                  About ownership - it still boils down to who the best options are. For example, when I sold Lukaku he was still over 50% owned but the point was he wasn't the best option. As we have more data now the higher owned players tend to be truer to their actual likelihood of scoring points. That's why it's more dangerous to go without. Is anyone seriously going without Salah just because they don't want to be considered a dullard? I'm playing to maximise rank, so obviously I'm looking for the best options. The ownership consideration is useful insofar as I can avoid losing ground due to silly mistakes.

                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Your last sentence there seems sound to me, wouldn't argue with it.

                    On the wider point, you are right to say that we are dealing with known quantities more than we were in GW1. But let me set "changed circumstances" against that. Changes of circumstance can create big ripples in the predictable pool. The effect of a new manager - Moyes at West Ham for example. The effect of an injury - Jesus at City for example. The effect of transfers - all the ins and outs that are likely to happen at Arsenal for example, which will likely change conditions for a number of players at different teams. Younger players having break-out seasons - Lingard recently and watch out for Ibe as well.

                    If you are playing for advantage you will seek to capitalise on those changed circumstances early and before the results are self-evident. That requires judgement. If you are playing for safety you will wait, stay close to the security of ownership levels and season performance so far and allow others to fall flat on their faces with their wild punts. 🙄

                    Personally I treat FPL as an exercise in judgement and I back my judgement to be better than the majority. Sometimes that misfires terribly, other times it succeeds triumphantly. And sometimes it makes little difference at all. But it's how I choose to play.

                    Mark is right in a way, it's a matter of balance. It's like investment - 'riskier' funds can offer higher but less certain returns. A successful investor has to balance between the high-risk/high-potential opportunities and the lower-risk/lower-ceiling vehicles. It all comes down to judgement in the end. And also to personality actually. Ville Rönkä is probably the best manager we have seen in FPL history and I admire him (and can learn things from him) but I'd never want to copy his style of play. It would drive me nuts. 😀

                    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      I agree it's a matter of balance. I'm still relatively new to FPL - last season I took 17 hits and this season I've taken 3, it's all a bit of an experiment. Ville Ronka winds me up because it's almost like he's not *willing* to take a hit.

                      And yeah I agree everything has to be put in context, I was just adding a perspective on how I'm thinking about the game at this point in time. I'm still aiming for a top 100 finish, and I don't doubt many managers around me will slip up by trying to be too clever.

                    2. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
                      • 7 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      I play the game like it's an investment also. You need to find balance with high and low risk. Something for me that stands out is that 'past performance is no guarantee of future results'.

                10. AndyCook
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Threads like this make me hate Internet forums. Surely nobody should even care what anyone else thinks, it’s supposed to be for fun. Do what makes you happy!

                  • Kenneth Tang
                    • 11 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Hi Timo, I'm enjoying my 12th fantasy season. I usually just look at my own team and think what decisions could score me the most points down the road.

                    Share two examples here:

                    Before the deadline of GW22, I have enough funds to choose among Son/Eriksen/Alli. I read that Kane was sick. Then I started to think, if Kane was not starting, who would be the biggest beneficiary? My answer was Son. I think he had a good chance to play #9. Then I drilled down more in details, and found that Son was very promising (consistent starting role after Alderweireid got injured, many goals, assists & shots). Finally it was the price. Son was $1.x cheaper than Eriksen/Alli. As I know I will hold this Spurs player for three gameweeks at least, the extra money could be spent elsewhere. All factors pointed to Son, so I went for that. I didn't know what the others do, and I didn't really care. There was a few minutes I think of captaining Son, but I still expected Kane to score more points by playing fewer minutes, so I stick to Kane.

                    Another example is, I would never own DDG. I think it's not worth to put money on GK. Having DDG, I still need to spend $4 for another GK that will definitely not feature. Which means it's a total waste of $4. I would rather have two half-good $4.0-$4.5 GK to rotate with each other. I like to retrieve some values from that $4 GK, and the extra $1.5 will be very useful elsewhere.

                    I saw some great buddies above discussing the thought on owning Vardy as a differential of Firmino. My thought is, assuming both players identical in price, I will buy the one who I believe will score me more points in a designated time-frame. I don't really care who is owned by more people, and whose price will increase more next gw. If you pick the right player, his price will increase in future even if it's not the nearest future.

                    What I'm trying to say is, before caring about the others, there is nothing more important than doing the best decision yourself.

                    Cheers, and wish you enjoy your fantastic season!

                  • Gothenburgsaints
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    I would add that this suggested template strategy is partly TV/SV related. If you have managed to build your TV in the first part of the season, you could simply pick more of the template players. For example, you can afford the template front 7 with DDG, Alonso, Otamendi, Azpi/Jones/Bellerin at the back. If Hazard picks up pace, you can go Hazard over Son etc. Last year I used this strategy to move up the rank substantially in the end of the season (TV 106.6 in GW15, TV 108 in GW29). Rose from 3000 to 22 from now basically till the end of last season.

                    This year I have been more casual and less skilled in playing the market and I am stuck with Pope and Kenny/Ogbonna/Dunk instead of DDG and Azpi/Jones/Bellerin. Play that difference for 15 GWs and you will rise in rank significantly. Add to this that with great TV/SV you can keep money itb to easier get the next in form players without taking hits (or simply facilitate transfers as if you, for example, own Azpi you can do a FT to any other defender), i.e. take hits in the first part of the season to avoid transfers in the latter part.

                    In sum, going template makes a lot more sense if you have a strong TV/SV, since others in the top will not be able to afford all of your template players.

                  • the snazzy viking
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    If I'm honest, I don't really care about OR.

                    Different people have different aspirations for the game, but for me I play it purely for fun and the only real aim I'll have all year is to win my ML. If I do that, it's a good season

                    OR is overrated

                11. SkeletONv01
                  • 6 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  Pope
                  Alonso - Christensen - Jones - Stones
                  Salah - Sterling - Son - Lingard
                  (C)Kane - Kun
                  Elliot, Ayew, RLC, Long

                  0.9 ITB. GTG? Anything worth a hit?

                  1. james 101
                    • 12 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Should score very nicely mate.

                  2. Thinkering like a Boss
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    G2G

                  3. Zladan
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Alonso Salah Sterling Kane Jones all covered.

                    Good to go.

                  4. SkeletONv01
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Thanks guys.

                12. jose1
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  On a free hit do you get to use the value of your team with unlimited changes until GW starts ?

                  1. Siva Mohan
                    • 11 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    yes

                13. Siva Mohan
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  BREAKING: Theo Walcott has passed his medical and agreed personal terms with Everton ahead of his £20m move from Arsenal. (Source: SkySports)

                  1. Patch
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Glad I ditched DCL then...

                    1. arndff_
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      It was the right move, no matter Walcott in/out.

                  2. SkeletONv01
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Could become interesting option if plays 90min every game and starts firing.

                  3. Srv210
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Walcott & Aubameyang (if comes to arsenal) both can be good options if they start firing

                  4. Chazz69
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Nice money for Arsenal. hopefully they'll use it wisely

                14. Siva Mohan
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  José Mourinho is furious at Henrikh Mkhitaran’s agent Mino Raiola for delaying the Alexis Sánchez deal to Manchester United. Mourinho thinks Raiola is setting the bar too high and, as a result, United’s deal for Sánchez remains in limbo. (Source: Daily Express)

                  1. Thinkering like a Boss
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Swap for Martial then if Mourinho really want Sanchez

                    1. Siva Mohan
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Wenger's first choice.. Mou wouldn't lose Martial..

                      Raiola makes the transfer interesting..

                  2. dvdguy
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Greedy agents are ruining the game I tell ya

                  3. Yozzer
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    I hope they call it off and Sanchez pi$$es off abroad

                    He's toxic...and I love watching Jose lose out

                15. Zizou
                  • 14 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  any advice

                  adrian pope
                  jones alonso masuaku kenny dunk
                  salah son sterling lingard rlc
                  dcl kane morata
                  2ft 1.1m ITB

                  My 1st free transfer looks like it'll be morata > firmino. The followiing 2 transfers will be done over 2 weeks but which one first?

                  1) dcl > niasse - if he moves
                  2) son > mahrez

                  1. MTPockets
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      1 if RLC still not starting, unless you're happy playing 4 defs.
                      Although not sure about Niasse.

                    • arndff_
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      I don't understand the 1) transfer.

                      The 2) transfer should be made @GW25.

                      1. Zizou
                        • 14 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        if niasse gets his move from everton to palace/brighton or westbrom, won't be a bad 4.7m bench option

                      2. Zizou
                        • 14 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        just with son > mahrez my thinking is with son away from home his points have been poor, then has utd, liverpool and arsenal. Where mahrez has watford at home next, gives me time to access the niasse move and get in mahrez now

                    • Zladan
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Agreed that Morata has to go. He’s over 10% of your budget and only scoring 1 or 2 points a week.

                      Motats > Wilson and upgrade RLC? Most value can be found in midfielders.

                  2. zøphar
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Morata replacement -
                    A. Aguero
                    B. Firmino

                    firmino obviously allows for upgrades elsewhere, like son to kdb next week

                    1. arndff_
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      B

                      You already wrote the reason why.

                      1. james 101
                        • 12 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Yep

                    2. Siva Mohan
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      A

                    3. Gazj11
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      B

                  3. arndff_
                    • 12 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Hazard's going to haul against Brighton.

                    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      3 points isn't a haul.

                      Actually I wouldn't mind a 14 pointer, because a) I can't be punished by it, and b) it would cause plenty of overthinkers to take hits to get him back in.

                      1. arndff_
                        • 12 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        I don't want to sell him for a hit, therefore I'm hoping for a haul. That's it. 🙂

                        If I were you, I won't go for him -- totally agree with you, mate.

                        Thanks for the response!

                  4. Gazj11
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Who’s more essential for the next 4-6 GWs?

                    A. Arnautovic
                    B. Vardy

                    1. arndff_
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Arnie for me

                    2. VFORVANDETA
                      • 7 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      A

                    3. Zladan
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      A

                  5. POGBOOM KEBABOOM
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    From list below..select 3 players to have gw24.

                    A)KDB
                    B)Mane
                    C)Son
                    D)Arnie
                    E)Mahrez

                    Thanks.

                    1. arndff_
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      ade

                      1. arndff_
                        • 12 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        or cde

                        1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                          • 8 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          I have these 😀

                          I would like mane but it becomes a question of price

                    2. Norman Conquest
                      • 10 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      cde

                  6. NachoMan
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Morata out for;

                    A) Kun (-4)
                    B) Firmino (Free)

                    1. Ramessi
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      B)

                    2. SkeletONv01
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      B

                    3. Gazj11
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      B

                    4. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      B

                    5. Over Midwicket
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      B even if it was also a -4

                    6. La Roja
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      B

                  7. Ramessi
                    • 11 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    0 in the bank. But have 2 FT. Any suggestions?
                    de Gea Elliot
                    Ogbonna Azpilicueta Jones Otamendi Gomez
                    Salah Son Sané Lanzini Carroll
                    Firmino Agüero Niasse

                    1. FrankieTheGent
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Sane to lingard/Pogba or rambo?
                      Hold 1 ft

                      1. Ramessi
                        • 11 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        hmm...but isn't Newcastle @home too good to ignore this GW?

                    2. 1Banksy
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Don't sell Sane before this Man City run of fixtures.

                      1. Ramessi
                        • 11 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Exactly my concern!!

                    3. 1Banksy
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Ha actually given your squad: Sane to Silva and Niase to Ayew is my suggestion.

                      1. Ramessi
                        • 11 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Sane seems like a sure starter under Pep. Silva not so sure. Want to offload Niasse. but no money in the back 🙁

                        1. Srv210
                          • 6 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          Wait,if niasse transfers out & gets regular starts he can be good option

                    4. Mr. Funny Name
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Gomez -> Dunk

                    5. Pukki Party
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      I wouldnt do anything

                  8. Maddi Son
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    You recon Sanchez will start for United this month?

                  9. 1Banksy
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Best defender for 5.5 or less? I'm currently leaning towards Maguire but can be easily swayed.

                    1. Srv210
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      VVD ,but maguire has good fixtures

                      1. Ramessi
                        • 11 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Maguire based on form and fixtures. Mustafi can be good too...but then again Arsenal is in a mess!!

                        1. Srv210
                          • 6 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          Yess arsenal situation is bad right now, let the air clear before getting mustafi

                    2. DD
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Stones isn’t a bad shout either at 5.4

                    3. SkeletONv01
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      VVD? Stones?

                    4. Over Midwicket
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Maguire probably.

                    5. 1Banksy
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Already maxed out on City. VVD is tempting. Think I will ponder this for a few days. Thanks for the suggestions.

                    6. Kiwivillan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Maguire fixtures and goal threat. VVD playing for team only 2 CS all season. He's not going to miraculously change that. Always takes new CB pairing time to adjust as it is

                      1. firetog
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 7 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        "only 2 cs all season" did you forget to include "away from Anfield" ?

                  10. Where dahoud at
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Peoples thots on walcot???

                    1. SkeletONv01
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Wait and see.

                    2. Srv210
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      He can be very good asset if he starts firing put Auba to arsenal & you have two potential FPL players

                  11. CookiesnCream
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Options for GW24:
                    A. RLC>Arnautovic, DDG>Pickford
                    B. RLC>Ox
                    C. Lingard>Arnautovic
                    D. Lingard>Mahrez, DDG>Pickford
                    E. Mbemba>Stones
                    F. Mbemba>Maguire

                  12. Over Midwicket
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Do we think Robertson will start away to Swansea? If so, he's probably a good pick right? I currently have him on my bench as I don't trust Pool's away defence but it's actually not that bad, and Swansea are possibly the worst team in the league.

                    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      It's tricky because arguably this is the kind of "easier" game Moreno could play but I don't know if he'll be rushed back after injury. I'm starting Robertson with Mee as backup.

                  13. pundit of punts
                    • 11 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    How many DGWs are expected this season?

                    I'm guessing 3. GW 34 and GW 37 and 1 more.

                    DGW 34 due to the blanks in GW 31 and DGW 37 due to the blanks in GW 35.

                    Where does the DGW due to the blanks in GW 28 fit in?

                    1. Hotdogs for Tea
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Depending on other rescheduled games they get put in GW37, or at least they did last season

                    2. Karan14
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Most likely 3 according to Ben Crellin.

                    3. pundit of punts
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Could it remain in GW 28 itself as midweeks are free for FA cup replays and if the teams blanking in GW 28 win their FA cup ties at first go?

                      1. Karan14
                        • 8 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        It is a possibility but a lot of people suggested here that does not happen usually because it’s not such a short notice.

                        1. Karan14
                          • 8 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          because the changes are on a short notice*

                  14. McSauce
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Do we think Sterling will start at the weekend? Thinking he may get a rest with Sane and Bernardo starting!

                    1. Over Midwicket
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Should start, barring injury

                      He's City's top scorer.

                    2. Hotdogs for Tea
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Should start, only 70 mins last game, but you never know with Pep

                      More likely D Silva comes in rather than B Silva

                  15. Where dahoud at
                    • 6 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    So this is my team, do i keep my 1 ft or do i use it??? And what would you do??? Would like to keep it in the hope that if sanchez does go to united id do all i can to get him in!

                    Pickford
                    Alonso, jones, vvd
                    Pogba, mane, Arnautovic, lingard
                    Kane (vc), aguero (c) ayew

                    Bench, elliot, yedin, cork, zanka

                    1. Srv210
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Save. But utd double in attack is not good

                      1. Where dahoud at
                        • 6 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Yea im thankn the same, change it next week when iv 2 ft

                  16. rnrd
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    I actually think Mhky would do wonders at Arsenal.
                    Espacially if Aubameyang also signs

                    1. Srv210
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Same. He was creative force at Dortmund and if they click again Auba & mkhi can be lethal.

                      But let's observe few games

                    2. Eze Really?
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      This^
                      Better performances than Alexis and Ozil I think.

                  17. Christina.
                    • 14 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    India 83/6 (day 5)

                    Require another 200 runs to win .

                    1. pundit of punts
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Congrats on the series win!

                    2. Sims
                      • 7 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Why are India ranked no.1 in tests? Can't remember the last time they didn't get destroyed away from home against a top 5 test side

                      1. Karan14
                        • 8 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        Can’t remember the last time a team destroyed us at home.
                        🙂

                        1. Sims
                          • 7 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          Being good just at home should not mean no 1 though

                          1. Karan14
                            • 8 Years
                            6 years, 3 months ago

                            Same stands for the other teams till they beat us at home.

                            We just win more than any other team and play more matches and that’s how they decide the rankings.

                            1. Sims
                              • 7 Years
                              6 years, 3 months ago

                              Both England and aus beat SA in SA on their last tours. SA beat Aus in AUS last year. Also, Aus India series last year was very close unlike Indian series in sa/eng/Aus

                              Same for pak and Sri Lanka, very poor away from home although we did get a draw in England last year

                              1. Karan14
                                • 8 Years
                                6 years, 3 months ago

                                If South Africa are beat teams away from home and loosing at home they can’t be No1.

                                The point is the way they decide the rankings is on the number of wins as far as I know.

                                Maybe to be fair there should be same number of matches away/home for all teams in a calendar year. But that’s just taking things to a different level and maybe they can’t manage that.

                                1. Sims
                                  • 7 Years
                                  6 years, 3 months ago

                                  Yeah windies pal newz etc can't have the same number of games as aus and India because it's financially impossible. I like the new test league they're bringing up though. We need more context

                        2. Srv210
                          • 6 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          Yeah.But our away form needs to improve man, the way batting collapsed is not a good sign

                          1. Karan14
                            • 8 Years
                            6 years, 3 months ago

                            You can’t expect batsman to suddenly adjust to away conditions. We play 1 year at home and then 1 series out of Asia.

                            The planning of series should be better. Maybe give them more matches away from so that they can play more on those pitches.

                            1. Srv210
                              • 6 Years
                              6 years, 3 months ago

                              Good point.BCCI need to give more proper exposure to away matches.

                            2. Sims
                              • 7 Years
                              6 years, 3 months ago

                              This pitch is pretty sub continent like. Kohl aside, Indian batsmen should have batted way better

                              1. Karan14
                                • 8 Years
                                6 years, 3 months ago

                                It might be but I’m just talking generally how are matches are planned. Tbh I haven’t even seen 1 day of the Test series. Not so into cricket unless it’s one of the big tournaments.

                    3. Delhidynamo
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      what a catch by Morkel

                  18. Eze Really?
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Team of the year so far:
                    DDG
                    Alonso Maguire Azpi Valencia
                    Fernandinho
                    Sane D Siva KDB Sallah
                    Kane
                    I would not have Azpi in the middle of a back 4 but his performances deserve the place.
                    5 subs:Pope Lascelles Kante Pogba Son

                    Your teams guys?

                  19. Bonus magnet
                    • 7 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    morning all please help
                    -am trying to wildcard and because am chasing have no choice but to go for a differential kind of WC.. suggestions welcome

                    elliot/foster
                    alonso danilo shaw creswell naughton
                    pogba mane lanzini ramsey shaqiri
                    aguero morata (yes morata) ayew

                    1. Srv210
                      • 6 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      GK is a problem,
                      Shaw,Danilo expensive & not nailed,
                      Ramsey & shaqiri have their teams in shambles
                      Morata playing like a kid,Ayew not very good

                      Just getting different players won't work,they should be playing somewhat good too

                      1. Bonus magnet
                        • 7 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        thanks
                        back to the drawing board then

                    2. Eze Really?
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Elliot unsure og gametime and Newcastle looking for a keeper
                      Foster will leak goals
                      Danilo rotation risk even with Delph out and they are looking for another left back.
                      Shaw not popular with jose
                      Creswell not bad
                      naughton playing for 2nd worst side in league
                      Shocking defense
                      ramsey wait a couple of weeks
                      Shaq a differential but Stoke performances uncertain.
                      No salah? First on the team sheet.
                      Ayew? Nah Wilson same price
                      Morata if i had him would probably keep but certain to drop in value and way out of form. Big risk
                      Kun in team where goals are shared? Is a differential though

                      Conclusion: You are going to lose more ground IMHO

                      1. Bonus magnet
                        • 7 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        cheers for your detailed analysis .. will tweak accordingly however
                        ayew 5.1
                        wilson 5.8

                        1. Eze Really?
                          • 9 Years
                          6 years, 3 months ago

                          Sorry I meant similar.
                          Rather have wilson than Shaq.
                          Ibe maybe for Shak and you can do it and both differentials

                    3. dunas_dog
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Possibly best to stick to template with couple of differentials to try and progress such as Mane Pogba

                      1. Bonus magnet
                        • 7 Years
                        6 years, 3 months ago

                        noted, thanks

                  20. markmcr
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Reckon Mounie will start at Stoke this week?

                  21. trinzoo
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    DDG / Elliot
                    Alonso / Otamendi / Mee / Ogbonna / Martina
                    Salah / Sterling / Alli / Arnie / RLC
                    Kane / Firmino / DCL

                    1 FT, 0.2 ITB

                    A) Alli > Mahrez
                    B) Save and do Alli/DCL > Mahrez/Wilson next week

                  22. UnitednationsXI
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Current defence is: Alonso Jones Duffy Gomez Sanchez but looking to downgrade sanchez. so best defender over the next 10gw's (till i use next WC) from the following:

                    A: Stones
                    - 5.4m, pretty nailed on, good fixtures, attacking threat?, will end up with 3 premium with gomez/duffy as backup for injuries or tough fix for the others

                    B: Yoshida/Cedric
                    - 4.8m and 4.7m respectively. Both nailed on, saints have very decent fixtures
                    - saints rotates reasonably well with rest of my defence. The 0.6m saving can be used something like ramsey (over lingard) or mahrez (over son)

                    C: Everton def but who? kenny has been shaky so might be dropped. What about Martina? idea how long baines is out for?
                    - 4.5m and everton rotates perfectly with rest of my defenders. Big Sam to go on the defensive based on his comments.

                    1. Eze Really?
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      A by a margin

                    2. VFORVANDETA
                      • 7 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Stones or Maguire.

                    3. Chazz69
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Stones is awful, I'd get Maguire instead

                    4. Kiwivillan
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 9 Years
                      6 years, 3 months ago

                      Maguire or Jones only +5m that interest me