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Dugout Discussion January 21

Dugout Discussion – Southampton vs Tottenham Hotspur

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Sunday treats us to a single, but nonetheless crucial, Gameweek 24 fixture as Southampton welcome Tottenham Hotspur to St Mary’s at 4pm.

After Sergio Aguero’s hat-trick at home to Newcastle yesterday, Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers are looking for a repeat performance from Harry Kane today.

Having put three past the Saints in a 5-2 win in Gameweek 20, the Spurs frontman is the number one captain choice in FPL, handed the armband by 29.3%.

However, the visitors’ potential at both ends of the pitch has been dented by the absence of key duo Hugo Lloris and Christian Eriksen through illness.

Sold by over 96,000 FPL managers last week, the Dane could now be subject to a late-January exodus – Mauricio Pochettino’s men play Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal in the subsequent three rounds of fixtures.

Up against a defence that has mustered just a single clean sheet in their last 11 at home, owners of Dele Alli and Son Heung-Min will be optimistic of returns – the pair plundered 15 and 14 points respectively in that recent triumph over the Saints.

In defence, Ben Davies is handed a fourth straight start for only the second time this term, with Danny Rose again missing out due to an ongoing knee complaint.

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  1. Rash
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    My decision making last few weeks has really been poor.. selling Kane for both hattricks whilst keeping hold of morata. Then kneejerking him in this week and now staring at 3 very tricky fixtures. Burned my FH for the doubles when my team with son & arnie for a -8 would have been much better! Sell hazard this week after keeping him for all his blanks. The only good thing I've done lately is keeping hold of salah!

    Think I just need to step back and do nothing for a gameweek.

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    1. Weilong7
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      I feel u.. too a hit for hazard and he chose to haul this week.. sigh..

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      1. Weilong7
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Took*

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    2. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Rash decisions

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    3. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Terrible luck there 😥

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    4. Dino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Same here with a lot of those. Biggest hurt was hazard though as I had him captain last week for 1pt. He used to be reliable for big scores at home and reliable to do nothing away.

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  2. rogerbarton
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    1) Arnie + Richarlison
    2) Mahrez + 4.8 MF
    3) Pogba + 5.5 MF

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  3. TorresMagic™
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    • 14 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Jaguars touchdown.

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    1. gunner 2727
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      TM do you ever do scoutcast?

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        I watch it most weeks.

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    2. LǝgleSs e|even
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Jags players are behaving like kids on the pitch. One patriots TD and their lead flies away.

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  4. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Seeing all the transfer questions on here lately from people who seem to have no thought about preparing for the blank gameweek has given me hope that I will break top 10k this year.

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    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Casuals winning.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      It's not like you're that far from it now.

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      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Been stuck around 25k forever!

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  5. Pompel
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone looking at Martial? Three hauls in last three, but otoh a rotation risk I guess, not at least if Sanchez moves

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    1. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Yes, I'm interested in him, will wait until after next's games week. When in the team Martial is very explosive and in my opinion I think he will hold his place after the arrival of Sanchez.

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  6. LǝgleSs e|even
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Sanchez seems overkill for Lukaku. His style of play and vision would probably be suited to be paired with someone like Martial.

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  7. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Sorry....bottomed....Going to be racking my brain over son for the next week. What would you do here?? 0.4itb. 2ft

    A. Just wimmer to Simpson/ chilwell

    B. Son and wimmer to shaqiri and Maguire

    C. Son and rlc to shaqiri and ox

    Fab Elliot
    Alonso Ota kenny ogbonna wimmer
    Salah sterling son Arnie rlc
    Kane kun ayew

    Thanks

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  8. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Early thoughts on this lot?

    Pope
    Alonso • Ota • Jones • Christensen
    Salah • Son • Sterling • Lingard • Arnie
    Kane

    (Elliot / Niasse / DCL / Wimmer)
    1 ft & 2.2 itb

    A) Christensen ➡️ VVD/Maguire
    B) Son ➡️ Mahrez
    C) Anything worth a hit?

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    1. arndff_
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Christensen is OK and has to play next game.

      B) looks good to me.

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  9. Save the Free Hit Chip Until the End
    Dino
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    When is the best week to play the fh chip?

    I'm just throwing out an unconventional week for discussion as I am not fully sold on the idea myself. I'm thinking potentially gw38 if you can survive 31 without too much damage.

    The reasons I say 38 are:

    A) there will be a decent double in 37 and you could have a load of riff raff hanging on in your team headimg into gw 38.
    A strategic one week free hit where you can identify teams with something to play for versus safe teams on the beach could have a massive swing in points

    B) if you are defending a lead you can bring in all your opponents differentials and see it out.

    C) if you are chasing a lead you can set up a completely different team to your rival who has probably been blocking you for the previous 4 to 5 gws. This will allow you take a punt on lowly owned differentials knowing you don't gave to worry about them long term.

    Any thoughts?

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    1. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      That is indeed my plan. Unless I need it before then. But it is the one week when you don't get a transfer penalty from it.

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      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        I guess the elephant in the room is how many blanks will we have in 31 but I think we have more than enough transfers between now and then to get a reasonable team out.

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        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          That is the issue though - transfers used to add in some dross, transfers used to remove them ...

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          1. Ruth_NZ
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            Depends how many games survive and which games. Having 8 or 9 that week isn't likely to be the end of the world.

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            1. RedLightning
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              • 13 Years
              6 years, 3 months ago

              In the equivalent game-week last season, only 4 matches survived.

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              1. Ruth_NZ
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 3 months ago

                Yeah but that was unusually low.

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                1. RedLightning
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                  • 13 Years
                  6 years, 3 months ago

                  2016-17, 4 matches survived.
                  2015-16, 5 matches survived.
                  2014-15, the FA Cup 6th round did not clash with a Premier League game-week.
                  2013-14, 5 matches survived.
                  2012-13, 6 matches survived.
                  2011-12, the FA Cup 6th round did not clash with a Premier League game-week.
                  2010-11, don't know how many survived, but I had to take an 8 point hit in order to field 11 players.

                  So the average number of surviving matches in recent seasons when the 6th round clashes with a Premier League game-week is 5.

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                  1. Ruth_NZ
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 3 months ago

                    Yep. I did know that actually, I looked those numbers up a few weeks ago. 😉

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      If the big teams make the semi finals in the FA Cup, GW31/GW35 is going to be ugly.

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      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Really depends TM, are you really going to want city players when they have the league wrapped up? Other top teams could be tied up in champions league/Europa and rotation nightmares too. I reckon I'll be Chelsea-less and city-less amd close to united-less (probabky hold jones) when I play my wc sometime between gw28 and 32.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          DGW34 and DGW37 means not being loaded up with BGW35.

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          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            35 is the other gw I was thinking as this is often a small double gw as well as blanks for some teams so not one you will likely play another chip in except maybe the tc.

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    3. Rhinos
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      to me the most exciting thing about the fhc is that you can have an awful bench therefore maximising your first XI budget. Wouldn't want to do that in gw38 just in case some strange team sheets

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      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah good point as with ghost gooner below.
        That is definitely a worry but your going to have the same worry with your gw37 team going into 38 and not have the flexibility to pick players from teams that actually do have something to play for?

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        1. Rhinos
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          don't think it will be hard to have a squad that should start in 38, don't remember ever ending up with 8 or 9 players. In a dgw you'd do well to pick players that don't get a single minute

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          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            Yes but how often in the final gw does your better players get reared for fa cup final/champions league final or the top team with nothing to play for get turned over by the weaker team? I do think if you could pick a best 11 on the final day it would be very different from your gw37 team which will be set up for the double gw.

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        2. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          GW37 maybe be your bench boost side which insulates you against rotation in GW38

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    4. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Don't like gw 38 for the left field team selections (for safe teams and those with nothing to play for).

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    5. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Not sold on that idea for a few reasons ...
      - Rotation, it’s quite hard to know who will play in GW38 and the free hit chip in my opinion is best used to get 11 certs the week you use it, not when players are being rested or youngsters are being given a run out
      - GW37 BB, if this is the way the double game weeks fall as last year, having a good 15 player squad flowing into GW38 is really helpful for dealng with the rotation
      - Opportunity cost, trying to tweak your team for a big blank game week uses up transfers both before and after, a FH chip is just perfect for avoiding that and getting the best possible 11 starters available

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      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Yes that is conventional wisdom alright and maybe it is the way to go. Personally I don't like bench boost in 37 as there is so much rotation with European commitments building up and mid table teams having nothing to play for but it would shield you somewhat from rotation if you have a strong bench.

        As a quick example, imagine arsenal and spurs are not involved with the double gw and you have none of their players in 37 (wjen they play BUR and wba respectively) yet they have hud and LEI respectively in gw38 with goal difference repeating them for top 4. Surely you seriously look at dumping city players with a champions league final and or fa cup final coming up and having the league won playing away to sou as well as maybe Chelsea safe in top 4 playing new on final day. There are always some big results in the final gw and playing the fh gives you the best chance of taking advantage I think.

        Is the advantage greater than playing 11 players from weaker teams in the blank gw in 31 though? I'm leaning more towards no the more I think about it.

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        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          Last season it worked well for me 😉 ....
          93 in GW36 WC
          197 -8 in my DGW 37 bench boost
          88 in GW38

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          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            The players who had doubles in 37 obviously had good games in 38 as well then. This is not always the case tbf.

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            1. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 3 months ago

              Not really, just had 15 decent starters to chose from rather than the normal bench fodder

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        2. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          By the way, conventional wisdom is to hold 2 or 3 nailed single game week ‘big’ players in the DGW. Also, a few double game week players do not end up playing both games, but likewise a few single game week players don’t even start their single game.

          Having a good spread of players with a BB really does help with the rotation problem of DGW37, removes the benching headache and gets the most possible out of 15 players, most of which have 2 games.

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          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            defo not sold on BB in 37 over 34 but I can see how having a strong bench can insulate you from surprises in gw38 alright.

            I know I've done it in the past where punting on players like Alfonso from Midlesboro on the final day (there was a midfielder with them to) and bringing in and captaining an injury prone player like RVP allowed me close 50pts or so on a mini league leader in gw38 so if you can change your team completely and the fixtures are much worse for the players who everyone has in dbl gw37 then I think you could make up big points. My BB last year had all double gw players apart from 1 I think but you really need the fixtures to fall for you to go down that road as it usually means turning your back on highly owned big players and gambling on them not outscoring your dbl gw team in the interim games.

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            1. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 3 months ago

              Looks like you are set, good luck

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    6. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Last season GW 31 ? ...
      Bournemouth v West Ham
      Everton v West Brom
      Hull v Swansea
      Liverpool v Burnley

      Anything near this and my FH chip will be used

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    7. Feyzi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      I beg to differ, for a basic logic that GW38 is tha last week of the premier league.

      If we play the Chip on GW38, we are not making the best of it. By pur logic, we can make the best of Free Hit, if, after using it, we resort to our original team.

      I see this not as a limitation but as an opportunity. It gives me the option of WC'ing irrespective of a problematic week. If I use it in GW38, I am treating it as a WC for 1 week. How much is that really Worth? Just a weekly gamble. Not something that will pay off for 11 players easily.

      Some of our rivals, in the ML'S or OR's have already used this chip. I can better them if I use it innovatively. To give an example, if there are major blanks in a GW, I can still WC before those fixtures, use my free hit during those blanks, and continue my life benefiting from the DGW's to come. That would outshine my rivals, in my opinion.

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      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Yes I do like this idea alright but I do question the merits of using it for a blank gw when the players you are bringing in are likely sub optimal scorers?

        If as per my example above you are filling your team with players from Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs (after dumping them for the double gw in 37) then you are much more likely to score highly especially if they have fixtures against teams that have nothing to play for. Remember Kane 7 goals in 2 away games last season towards the end of the season?

        I am really in two minds though as I would likely to wc around gw28 and play the chip in 31 but looking at the teams that have games in 31 I can bring in their players who have nice fixtures anyway between now and then dumping players I don't want in the process so I don't think I'll need the FH in 31.

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        1. Feyzi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 3 months ago

          I see your reasoning and it makes perfect sense.

          Would the answer lie in a mathematician's analysis? When we know, more or less, perhaps around GW 27, when and which blanks we will have, should we not then try to establish what would be the maximum points gained in the blank GW FH as opposed to your theory?

          Also added to my thinking would be the following. If I am behind in my ML or unhappy with my OR, then I can gamble to FH on GW38. It gives me the chance to improve what I would normally be unable to.

          But if I am happy with OR and leading the ML, then I should leave things less to GW38 chances. You are entirely right that supernatural scores may be abundant, historically, at that GW but to find out who will do that (Sadio Mane hat-trick comes to mind) is not always that simple.

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          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 3 months ago

            You've hit the nail on the head there. Once we know the likely games we can put some rough numbers on it.

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    8. Halftime Lemon
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      I've checked the FPL site, but still cant quite work out if you can play BOTH the FH and BB in the same week?
      Anyone know?

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      1. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Nope. Only one chip in same gw.

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      2. alexmj
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        You can't.

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    9. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      GW38 last season I took a -12 to sell Jesus, Kane, Alli and Monreal for Sturridge, Vardy, Coutinho and Azpi, because I was chasing ML glory. The only player I had in common with ML leader was Cech.

      A FH chip would have been handy in that instance, but overall the final week’s transfers cost me around 39 pts when compared to making 0 transfers.

      I think the swing you can get from essentially WC for one week is minimal, since you're mostly choosing differentials for the sake of it. GW37 was a DGW last season, and I had to sell all the obvious, best players to try to win because I had no other choice, but would expect that it to end in disaster most of the time anyway.

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      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        It all depends on the fixtures tbf, if you are taking out players from big teams with something to play for playing teams with nothing to play for then you are wasting your time. If you are taking out players from teams that are likely to rest players in preparation for the fa cup final etc and bringing in players from a team that didn't have a double in 37 and who have a lot to play for in 38 like Liverpool BHA (assuming BHA are either down or safe), Arsenal hud (assuming same as BHA) you really have the scope to gamble well I think. The big problem is these teams might have nothing to play for and you won't know until probably the last few gws.

        I think I'm probably going to look at using it in 31 if I need it otherwise it will probably be held until gw35 or 38.

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    10. Werkself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      It's still too early for me to invest my time various planning for the various scenarios that may unfold as a result of games yet to be played.

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  10. Weilong7
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Bit early.. hold Kane for the 3 hard fixtures or ship out for maybe firmino or vardy? Had Kun in team

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    1. One Man
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      I'm holding, I'd say you have other issues to sort out ? Firmino would be tempting tho.

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    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Kane’s PL record against those 3 hard teams ....

      Started : 19, Scored: 11, Assists: 2, Home goals: 7, Away goals: 4, Won: 4, Drawn: 9, Lost: 6,

      3 double digit hauls I think

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  11. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Why is gw31 better than gw28 for the free hit chip?

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    1. gunner 2727
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      Likely far less matches being pakued

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      1. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 3 months ago

        Ok thank you.

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  12. New Post
    TorresMagic™
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    • 14 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    New Post

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2018/01/21/scout-notes-saints-frustrate-kane/

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  13. Ram sey Coq uel in
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Do you think fantasy towers will try to squeeze any of the blanks in 31 into the midweek of same gw ?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      International break so no.

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  14. Shardlow
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    A. Gomes to De Gea
    B. Mee/Masuaka to Jones
    C. Son to Mahrez
    D. Mee/Masuaka to Alonso (got Azpi)
    E. Save FT

    cheers

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  15. Ram sey Coq uel in
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Thanks TM , much appreciated

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  16. Jaok
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    So sick of christensen now. Do people sell or hold?

    Any tips what to do? Everything Ive been doing since the DGW has been crap.

    Elliot / Courtois
    Ota Jones Christensen Mee Kenny
    Sterling Arnie Salah Lingard Son
    Kane Firmino Niasse

    1ft 1.5 itb

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    1. danishdynamite
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      If you have enough for Christensen > Alonso then perhaps do that, otherwise save the FT or tell Lingaard to do one

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  17. CrouchDown
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    What to do with this lot? 1FT and 0itb

    Hennessy

    Alonso Ota Ogbonna

    Salah Sterling Arnie Lingard

    Kane Firmino Vardy

    Subs: Speroni Kenny Zanka RLC

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    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      I would try something like Kenny to Chilwell and then you got a little ITB to get as least a 4.5 keeper down the line.
      Rest of the team is decent.

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  18. Udo
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Pick a replacement for Erik: A: Hazard, B: Mane or C: Sane?

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    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 months ago

      D Mahrez or post team to help us decide 🙂

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  19. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    How far are Coleman and Heaton from returns.
    I have Heaton and Kenny.

    Thinking of losing Kenny now for a hit to Jones.
    Yes or no? I probably would play him ahead of current third defender this week who is Ogbonna.
    As it looks like a .2 swing in the next day or two if I don't move now and I am getting Jones next week no matter what. If I don't move means I won't be able to do Pope to Schmeichel down the line.

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  20. Fantasyamateur
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    What do I need to do here? Thinking of saving a FT if I avoid injuries.. However, Elliot is probably not going to play, which leaves me with Foster away to City.. Struggling to find a goalie worth changing to though within my budget that are better to have than Foster going forward..

    Elliot
    Otamendi - Mee - Ogbonna
    Arnautovic - Salah - Sterling - Lingard
    Agüero - Kane - Firmino

    Bench: Foster, Carroll, Mariappa, Hegazi.

    1FT and 0.7M ITB.

    Thoughts very much appreciated!

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  21. Ronnies
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 3 months ago

    Thoughts on Lingard >>>> Willian (free transfer)

    Yes or No

    Tnks guys.

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