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The Sun Dream Team – Selection Guide – Defenders

In our second selection guide for The Sun Dream Team, we turn our attention to the defence, casting an eye on the strategies involved in selecting a back four and the prime candidates on offer.

While the big points scorers can be found further up the field, with a quartet of defenders a pre-requisite for our lineups in The Sun Dream Team, we can ill-afford to neglect this area. As with our goalkeeper selection, we’re looking for regular starters first and foremost, although, as we’ll see, attacking instincts and the potential for goals is also key.

Before we begin looking at specific player options, let’s analyse the factors that govern our selection – including last season’s performance, the influence of cup fixtures and possible transfer window strategies.

The Strategies

Top Ten Sun Dream Team Defenders by Overall Points 2012/13

NameTeamStarts7+ RatingsStar ManGoalsCSGCPoints
BainesEverton4432571248196
IvanovicChelsea5421381860177
VertonghenTottenham Hotspur4828371359164
LuizChelsea5018171955153
AggerLiverpool3820131741138
ShawcrossStoke City4022511344135
JohnsonLiverpool4120211846135
WilliamsSwansea City4125301347129
JagielkaEverton4118431144129
MertesackerArsenal4314131743124

Looking back at the previous campaign’s data, it’s clear that some familiar names from other Fantasy games also dominate in The Sun Dream Team. Leighton Baines’ status as the top defensive asset is compounded by his standing, here: he finished the season some 22 points ahead of his nearest rival in The Sun Dream Team, despite claiming just 12 clean sheets. Everton’s progress to the FA Cup semi-finals boosted another eye-catching Premier League season for Baines, who achieved a points per game stat of 4.5 – by far the most impressive amongst the top ranked defenders.

The Chelsea pairing of Branislav Ivanovic and David Luiz benefited from a successful Europa League campaign but turned in points per game numbers of 3.2 and 2.9 respectively – emphasising Baines’ efficiency. Tottenham’s Jan Vertonghen was also aided by Europa League appearances and, overall, it’s significant that these top four defenders all claimed seven or more goals over the season – underlining the importance of targeting those capable of contributing at the sharp end.

While goals are clearly an important factor, we should also consider the role played by points gained for Star Man and 7+ ratings.

Baines, Stoke’s Ryan Shawcross and West Ham’s James Collins all topped the Star Man charts for defenders with modest totals of five awards. In 2011/12, Baines, along with Shawcross, were two of eight defenders tied on just three at the top. Compare this to Juan Mata’s 15, and the 13 accrued by both Gareth Bale and Luis Suarez last season, and it’s clear that, like goalkeepers, defenders struggle to overshadow their attacking team-mates when it comes to picking up man-of-the-match status.

Points from 7+ Sun Ratings are easier to obtain, however. There were ten defenders who earned 7+ ratings on 20 or more occasions last season, with Baines registering a hugely impressive tally of 32 from his 44 starts, gathering 96 points in this area. Vertonghen also gained heavily here – he collected 7+ ratings on 28 occasions from 48 starts, while Swansea’s Ashley Williams earned the same accolade in 25 of his 41 Dream Team starts.

As a rule, aside from the obvious benefit of scoring in a match, dominant central defenders and full-backs with strong attacking impetus are the most likely to earn a 7+ rating. Baines has featured in the top five rankings for 7+ ratings over the last four seasons – emphasising the importance of a consistent attacking presence. Similarly, both Shawcross and Williams have made the top ten for 7+ ratings in the past two seasons (with Star Man awards also a factor) – it’s obvious that the duo have something to offer in this area.

Cup Campaigns

There’s no question that a Cup run and, in particular, a European campaign can be big factors behind the number of appearances, and therefore the points tallies, of your defenders. In some cases, defensive stalwarts can be less prone to rotation than their attacking counterparts.

Vertonghen was a key benefactor of Tottenham’s Europa League campaign last term, earning 41 of his 164 points in Europe. Similarly, both Ivanovic and Luiz collected 17 and 25 additional points from Champions League and Europa League matches, with Liverpool’s Glen Johnson fetching 18 additional points.

We’re not talking big margins here, but clearly, targeting players with the potential of regular starts in European matches is another factor to consider.

Domestic cup runs can also be considered, but these are far trickier to anticipate, with rotation in the FA and Capital One Cups likely to be rife amongst those sides also competing in Europe. Typically, we’ll see all the Champions League contenders rotate across the board in the domestic cup competitions, leading us to look to those teams outside of these four, perhaps honing in on those sides who will field strong lineups in both domestic trophies – the likes of Everton, West Ham and Norwich, perhaps.

Window Watching

Planning transfer strategies according to The Sun Dream Team Transfer Window is crucial, not least in defence where you can tailor your tactics to give yourself the best opportunity of earning clean sheet rewards.

Transfer Window 1 opens with just three Premier League fixtures played out, on September 3. You’ll have three transfers to use before the Gameweek 4 on September 14 and, with a “use them or lose” policy, it’s wise to examine the options of signing defenders with this in mind.

It’s worth considering a policy of adopting one or even two slots in your back four that can be used to rotate a defender in and out in each Transfer Window according to fixtures and cup progress. Of course, such best laid plans can be ripped up by untimely injuries, however.

The Season Ticker is your key weapon here. We can easily identify those with the easier fixtures over the first three Gameweeks and, if you’re a member, you can use the “clean sheets” filter on the interactive ticker to find those defences most likely to earn shut-outs in this spell.

Our members can also tailor their ticker to examine the next Transfer Window that opens on November 12. By restricting the full Members Ticker to Gameweeks 3-11 you can analyse the difficulty of fixtures between Transfer Window 1 and Transfer Window 2, revealing some valid strategies and targets.

As an example, Southampton face home matches with West Ham, Crystal Palace, Swansea, Fulham and Hull all before Transfer Window 2, therefore, switching in a defender from St Mary’s in Transfer Window 1 for this spell looks an option.

With the Capital One Cup reaching the fourth round by October 28, you will be able to adjust your defence according to those teams who have made progress by the time Transfer Window 2 comes into effect.

It’s not so easy in Europe, with the Europa League and Champions League both on matchday four of the group stages by the time Transfer Window 2 opens.

The FA Cup Third Round does not take place until January 4, so progress here only becomes a factor for the Transfer Window 3 that opens on January 21.

The Players

Baines and Vertonghen are obvious draws once again this season with both set to offer a significant attacking threat and assured league starts. There are caveats that might curb investment prior to Transfer Window 1, however, with Baines’ future at Goodison still not uncertain and Vertonghen looking a doubt for the opening fixtures with a pre-season ankle injury. Once settled, however, both look hugely tempting as heavy-hitter investments with Vertonghen’s price tag of £5.5m, coupled with Tottenham’s kind schedule of fixtures up until Transfer Window 2, perhaps giving him the edge once fit.

Coverage of both Man City and United will be high on the agenda given their potential to harvest clean sheets, although the fixture list suggests that initial investment should go the way of Manuel Pellegrini’s side. City have Newcastle, Cardiff and Hull before the first transfer window, while United’s defence face both Liverpool and Chelsea in the same spell.

Vincent Kompany seems likely to be the most secure option in the City rearguard with both full-backs and the Belgian’s central defensive partner set to shuffle on the domestic front and in Europe. If you’re not spending on Joe Hart in goal, the City captain looks a shoo-in, at least until Transfer Window 1 swings open and the United defence comes into play.

That will also give us time to assess how David Moyes will approach his back four. With the likes of Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand, Jonny Evans and Phil Jones all available for the centre-half roles, the full-backs – Patrice Evra and Rafael, could be the safer routes to take. Jones, if he can cement a start, either in defence or midfield, looks the one to watch given his modest £4m price tag.

Chelsea’s defensive assets are difficult to sift through. Jose Mourinho will surely rotate at the back and, aside from Ashley Cole (£6.0), few look assured of regular starts in the league, let alone the cup competitions. Luiz, with a significant goal threat, looks to be the crown jewel but at £6.5m, his potential comes at a price. With a difficult start to the campaign (United, Everton, Tottenham and City all before Transfer Window 2), it may be wise to look elsewhere in order to assess Mourinho’s selection pattern.

Lower down the brackets, Ashley Williams, with a valuation of just £3.5m, has attracted more interest than any other defender – he’s been selected by over 31% of managers in The Sun Dream Team so far. Swansea’s Europa League campaign is presumably a factor, here, with Chico (£2.5) finding his way into over 21% of sides. Both could be set to plummet should Swansea falter in qualifying, although arguably, the duo have merits regardless of potential European returns.

Liverpool’s Kolo Toure looks a stronger option in the same bracket. Having figured prominently in pre-season and with Martin Skrtel’s future at Anfield far from certain, Toure looks exceptional value at just £3m. As we mentioned in our previous guide to The Sun Dream Team goalkeepers, there is real merit in acquiring both Toure and Simon Mignolet given their price and Liverpool’s strong early schedule.

Baines’ team-mate Seamus Coleman (£3m) offers an interesting alternative. Classed as a midfielder last season, Coleman is expected to claim the start on the right side of Roberto Martinez’s defence, either as a full-back or wing-back. That should see him contribute regularly to attack and draw plenty of 7+ ratings should Martinez start his Goodison career strongly.

In the budget bracket, West Ham’s defence offers new signing Razvan Rat for just £1m – a hugely attractive option going into Transfer Window 1 with the Hammers facing Cardiff and Stoke at Upton Park, with a trip to Newcastle sandwiched in between. Rat could be a keeper over the season given that price tag, although a transfer out to cash in on Southampton’s aforementioned run up to Transfer Window 2 looks a good tactic.

Full-backs Luke Shaw and Nathaniel Clyne can each be acquired for £2.5m and if Jose Fonte or Jos Hooiveld can secure at start, they can be snapped up for just £1m. Beyond those two clubs, Norwich City’s Michael Turner, at just £1.5m, looks another bargain. If he can gain continue to command starts alongside Sebastian Bassong, he should offer value, particularly if Chris Hughton’s side can translate their summer spending into a domestic Cup run.

The Sun Dream Team Scout League

The Sun Dream Team is long established as one of the biggest players in the UK Fantasy Football market, attracting a huge audience wowed by the most substantial prizes on offer. Once again, this season, there’s a huge £500,000 prize pool to be divided up. Registration for teams and leagues opens on August 1 but you can select your lineups right now.

We also have our own Fantasy Football Scout League with a £1000 top prize on offer to the winner.

Once you register and create your team or teams, simply use the following PIN and password to enter.

League Name: Fantasy Football Scout
Password: ReWOZhn1T1
PIN: 8061654

You’ll find these details on the middle column of the homepage from this point on.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

2,838 Comments Post a Comment
  1. joker7
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Dzeko at 8.3% and increasing............

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    1. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A lot of Berbatov and lambert owners out there knee-jerking

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  2. Messiah Hazard
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    RMT and suggestions please...

    Mignolet Davies
    Coleman Ivanovic Olsson Turner Chester
    Silva Hazard Walcott Paulinho Thomas
    Rooney Lukaku Dzeko

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Rooney isn't worth it.

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      1. Mandell
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        +1

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      2. Messiah Hazard
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I am hoping to have 4 Chelsea players for the DGW...

        But if not Rooney then who?

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    2. Abusee
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I see you don't plan on using your second keeper,

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      1. Messiah Hazard
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Yes that's true

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        1. The Red Gurnard
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I'm thinking the same thing. Currently have the same front 3 but have gone coutinho & Mirallis over paulihno and silva.

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  3. whoracle
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Yet again lost on the previous page...

    Jussi
    Walker Mertesacker Enrique
    Walcott Hazard Coutinho Silva
    Berbatov Bony Lambert

    Subs: Boruc - Thomas - Parr; Chester

    Thoughts? Worth the risk?

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    1. Mandell
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Team is pretty good 🙂
      Just one thing...u sure about walker?

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      1. whoracle
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah. Pretty sure 😀

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  4. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    so im guessing Anelka owners are leaving 8.5 in the bank ready to pounch when Rvp gets a brace and Anelka gets zilch?

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    1. Kevin Twine
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Nah £6m and taking out Lukaku instead.

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        good thinking 😎

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        1. Kevin Twine
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          😉

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  5. Messi & fabregas
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Repost:

    greatly apprecate some thoughts please

    A

    Speroni / Boruc
    Collins / Mertesacker / Toure / Terry / Chester
    Nolan / Lampard / Coutinho / Hazard / Walcott
    Aspas / Dzeko / Giroud

    B

    Speroni / Boruc
    Collins / Turner / Yanga-Mbiwa / Clyne / Chester
    Silva / Lampard / Coutinho / Hazard / Walcott
    Lukaku / Dzeko / Giroud

    C

    Speroni / Boruc
    Collins / Mertesacker / Toure / Clyne / Chester
    Mirallas / Lampard / Coutinho / Hazard / Walcott
    Lukaku / Dzeko / Giroud

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    1. Matthew
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Of those, C.

      You'll probably get more responses if you put the players that differ between the teams in all caps, because it makes it a lot easier to see the differences.

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  6. Kevin Twine
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone else saving £6m in the bank to do Lukaku -> RVP in GW2, or am I the only nutter?

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think there are three of you, in total, but you are the only mammal amongst them.

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    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I would imagine quite a few once they have sat and thought it through...

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      1. Kevin Twine
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Are you planning on it as well?

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  7. King Kohli
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone know what kind of strikers did Pellegrini play while at his previous club?

    I know for a fact that he mostly rolled out a 4-2-3-1, but did he play a pacy forward or a target man as the lone striker?

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    1. Cruicky
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Santa Cruz, wasn't it at Malaga?

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    2. whoracle
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Saviola/Santa Cruz rotation

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  8. Evs
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I'm getting Michu. There I said it 🙂

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    1. Jairzinho
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Good lad

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    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He owes you a few points...

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        FPL*

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    3. Mílanista
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Don't captain him again 😉

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      1. Evs
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        No way Perdo 😆 !

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    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Good call. I was close myself.

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    5. @Bryan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      32 goals in last two seasons.

      Not really a "punt"!

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      1. Evs
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Didnt say it was, but not seen him in many RMTs

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        1. @Bryan
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Not criticising at all 🙂

          Bandied him around here a few times, allot of folk put off by those fixtures. Although 15% of people still own him!

          I'm firmly in the camp of, "look at his goal stats". 🙂

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    6. junitrules
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm planning on getting him after the first few weeks 'tough' fixtures

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    7. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Surely Coutinho or Silva are better options for the start of the season until Swansea's fixtures improve?

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  9. Jake Donahue
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Whats with the Dzeko love?

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    1. whoracle
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Scored 2 against Milan RESERVES earlier today 😉

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  10. mgrea
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Don't know if this has been posted but was just reading an article and saw this quote:

    Ancelotti: "Our goal is not to bring more players but make the most of this squad"

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  11. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Pretty good. Too much money in keepers and defence imo. Better spent up front. Good mids.

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    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      *fail for whoracle

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  12. DÏLKS
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    From what i'm seeing, why's everybody taking Bale out of their team? He's not definitely gone yet.

    Also, is everybody sticking in Dzeko now?

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed.

      And no, I'm not.

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    2. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Guilty - done both today.

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      1. DÏLKS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        If Bale doesn't leave what will you do then?

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    3. mgrea
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I don't see how Madrid can pay for him this window. They have already spent £60,000,000+ and still owe installments for Modric. Unless the £85 million is offered upfront I can't see Levy taking it.

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      1. DÏLKS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I really can't see it happening to be honest, if he doesn't go, what's everybody gonna do then? Stick him back in?

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      2. joker7
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        they'll just get the Madrid Bank to wire transfer the money over.....isnt that how Madrid works...funded by the local bank....you imagine an English club working like that...

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        1. Matthew
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          That might work if Spanish banks had any money left... 😉

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    4. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He may not be gone, but his mind is out of playing in the premier league, and if he does leave after it starts then thats another transfer you'll have to make.

      and yes

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      1. DÏLKS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        He is playing Crystal Palace though, once the match starts, he'll be absolutely fine.

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    5. joker7
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      that's like the worst Avatar ever....

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      1. DÏLKS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Better?

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  13. Demí
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Quick Q:

    Has something happened with the automatic refresh for the recent comments on the side? Seems to go slower, and shows me 4-5 new comments after several seconds, rather than a new comment everytime someone posts.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      *stares at recent comments bar for 10 seconds*

      Seems to be, there were no changes then 4 new comments all at once.

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think its how they coped with the server load. Would make sense.

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not as smooth as before for sure it seems. Refresh rate must have been scaled back. Works well in the Dead Zone. 😉

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  14. Tekkers
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Just trying to catch up with all these posts; a lot of love for Dzeko. I rate him, but aren't people a bit concerned about his game time? I'm pretty sure he had a blinding pre-season last year, I picked him, he didn't play for 3 or 4 games, took him out and he scored 4 against spurs. Ah gotta love fpl!

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He's first choice striker, according to Pellegrini in an interview.

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      1. Jake Donahue
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        well at that price, fixtures and backing he is a must

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      2. Woy of the Wovers
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I'd believe that after he's selected for more than two games in a row.

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    2. TheKingThierry
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah Im tempted .. but Silva looks decent for coverage

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    3. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Im not getting him for now. Wait and see. Its not like he is 14m and you would need to re do your whole team to bring him in.

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    4. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Aguero is not fit enough to come on as a sub
      Negredo is not a better player
      Jovetic can't play CF.. He plays in Nasri's position

      Dzeko is nailed on atm

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      1. TheKingThierry
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Scrap that i have just done Silva to Santi and Giroud to Dzeko !

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        1. Tekkers
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Hmm, this is all sounding pretty convincing, giving me more problems for the front three!

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  15. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    This is not a RMT

    Ruddy - Marshall
    Baines - Toure - Collins - Clyne - Chester
    Walcott - Hazard* - Lampard* - Coutinho - Kim
    Dzeko - Giroud - Lukaku*

    No Migs because Sturridge and Aspas are on the watchlist so I need a Liverpool slot free. A Pool Dgw would leave you with a blank week for your keepers as well. Rather avoid that mess and Ruddy and Marshall are shot stopping kings and rotate nicely.

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    1. TheKingThierry
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure about Lamps ..doubt he will play both games and a full 90 in any game this season

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    2. hnmfm
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      naise we have the same chelsea selection

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    3. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Sorry, but why would there be a Pool DGW? And a Cardiff/Norwich blank when Liverpool have a blank?

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        There were lots of random Dgws last year :-/ Europa? An opponent in a cup? It's less likely both your keepers would blank at once. With migs you have no back up.

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    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ok it's a RMT 🙂

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    5. Evs
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      *This is not Rmt response....

      Very good I like it 🙂

      Nice to see someone with Baines.

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  16. TheKingThierry
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Bale seems to be off ... Great from an FPL persepective ! Now do I get RVP or not ..

    Heres my team btw:

    Szczesny (Boruc)

    Shaw Turner Luiz (Coleman Amorebieta)

    Walcott Silva Coutinho Hazard (Routledge)

    Bony Giroud Rodriguez

    Could get Anelka and a better defender for Coleman ... the team is still in its early stages .. any thoughts?

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    1. Abusee
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Why All the love for coutinho amd sturridge? I think they are overpriced, aren't they?

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  17. In Tommy We Trust
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Caulker singing for Cardiff brings Taylor back into my thinking. Cardiff were tight last season with a good work ethic. Now with that bit of quality installed, a 4.5 mil price isn't putting me off anymore. Should do a lot better than Hull or Palace

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    1. mgrea
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed

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    2. TheKingThierry
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yup and dont forget ... HE HAS GOALS IN HIM TOO 🙂

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Marshall 😉

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    4. Evs
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Hudson?

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Think I'm more secure with Taylor being more nailed on. Hasn't really got any competition right?

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    5. Bests Conquests
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Marshall rotates quite well with Mignolet for first 15 GWs or so

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        yep but with Migs, you won't get Marshall 4.5 mil worth

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  18. Tiote on Peyote
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Posted this a few days ago and didn't get much of a response.

    Any love for going with a Cech Boruc goalkeeping combo to begin with in order to allow you 3 Chelsea and Benteke but relieve the pressure of getting rid of 4 dgwer for GW3?

    I know it ties up 2 million and forces another transfer at some point in the future, but with the lack of security in the Chelsea defence it's definitely something I'm considering.

    Thoughts?

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    1. TheKingThierry
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I would say Luiz is secure in the Chelsea defence (as long as he isnt sold to Barca that is) so would probably recommend him more

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      1. Tiote on Peyote
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        How can you be sure?

        You still have the issue of an extra outfield player to offload.

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        1. TheKingThierry
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Luiz is versatile and Mou has said he is an important player for them
          Plus I will just bench him for the blank

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          1. Woy of the Wovers
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Mou!!!

            Someone has to make a stand;)

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    2. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'd rather take a bit more risk and go for Luiz/Ivanovic tbh for some extra attacking points.

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      1. Tiote on Peyote
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Yeh, Ivan in particular provides a solid attacking threat, had him GW1 last year.

        But like I said that means you can't have 3 Chelsea and Benteke.

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        1. Kevin Twine
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Don't get Benteke then 😉

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          1. Tiote on Peyote
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Haha. Yeh, simple answer.

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    3. Bests Conquests
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think many want to hold on to Mignolet at 5.5 from the onset.

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  19. 2nd Man
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    In follow up to my post the previous night about RMT (http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/07/29/scout-report-yannick-sagbo/?hc_page=2#hc_comment_5126767) I had another look at my data.

    The most important result I found was an R^2 value of 0.58 for my actual score vs RMT projected score for my team. In the most basic terms, 58% of my actual weekly score can by explaned by RMT, leaving 42% explained by random variation each week and errors in the RMT model.
    Alternatively, you can look at the correlation coefficient which is 0.76, so we can say actual weekly scores and RTM projected weekly scores move together fairly well. (A score of 1 would mean they move together perfectly, 0 meaning not at all).

    So, RMT is still a really good tool even at projecting scores on a week to week basis. Over the whole 2nd half of last season (when I was keeping data), my actual FPL score was 1010, and RMT projected I'd have 953 points, only 6% out.

    If TheTinkerman is on again could you pass this onto the prof? The last discussion is lost in comments a few articles back now.

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      R^2 is the correlaton coefficient, so how have you got two different numbers?

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      1. 2nd Man
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        With just two variables R^2 is simply the correlation coefficient squared (.76^2=.58). They have slightly different interpretations, correlation measures linear dependence and R^2 measures the goodness of fit (technically, the amount of variation in actual score which can be explained by variation in the projected score). I think (emphasis on think), R^2 is more appropriate here, I included the correlation coef. in the hope more would understand it.

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Ah that explains something thats been bothering me about Pearsons for a long time. Thx

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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      This Is why I pick my team on guts and not statistics.

      Not that the post doesn't make intellectual in depth reading but I just can't go there.

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  20. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    You get two free teams in the Mirror Game and the Telegraph game.

    How about the sun game?

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  21. Federico
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Looking for an easy route away from Bale if he goes.
    Is this it?

    Bale + Giroud to Snodgrass + RVP

    Mignolet - Marshall
    Clyne - Collins - Luiz - Dawson - Parr
    Hazard - Snodgrass - Walcott - Mirallas - Thomas
    RVP - Lukaku - JRod

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  22. It’s A Joke
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Any Newcastle fans on here? If so, what's your likely back 4? I'm thinking:

    Santon, Colo, YMbiwa, Debuchy

    Am I wrong?

    And what's the score with Krul?

    Thanks in advance and i'll also thank you after.

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Krul should be fit for the start of the season.

      Mbiwa will rotate with Steven Taylor unfortunately.

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  23. mgrea
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone looked at Cornelius in-depth or considering him? Don't know much about him but at £7.5 million he must start? 5.5 Allows for lots of other options if he hits the ground running.

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    1. Bests Conquests
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yes, he will be nailed on. But also, Gayle 5.0 at Palace is an option as well.

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  24. DelPuich
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    dont fell luiz is nailed on for both dgw games due to them playing manu right after

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    1. Bests Conquests
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      then who do you fell is nailed on?

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  25. junitrules
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I hope someone signs a player called Alex Bandwagon, who does extremely well in pre-season fixtures!

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  26. FF Dirtbag
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    How is this look or is it just pure template work?

    Mignolet gazza
    Terry Coleman Collins Chester turner
    Hazard Walcott mirallas snodgrass Thomas
    Lukaku RVP dzeko

    Any comments would be great!

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    1. Federico
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Looks like the new template :p
      I have 10/15.

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  27. In Tommy We Trust
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    For members out there, after the3rdturd epic bonus system analysis, especially the point breakdown, it has actually confirmed my BAP members tables as useful tools in showing players suited to the new system as the key point breakdown match the criteria's to the tables.

    The3rdturd point breakdown

    http://public.tableausoftware.com/views/FPLbonuspointsystemcomparison201112/Gainlossinbaps?:embed=y&:display_count=no and a chart which can be found here: http://i.imgur.com/tq3iCxH.png?1

    Key bonus system points;

    Playing
    Pass completion
    Key passes
    Goals

    Members tables

    http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/view/2810/

    http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/view/2807/

    http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/view/2809/

    Cheers 🙂

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    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Good reading, cheers for comiling dude

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks

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  28. Mandell
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    What u guys think about Cabral? Could he be a punt? Or something like a secret weapon 🙂

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  29. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    The TurdBird has reached lvl2

    😀

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  30. pundit of punts
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Hello everyone! 😀

    What's the lastest tonight?

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    1. Tekkers
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Everyone's getting Dzeko

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      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        ah new bandwagon. another reason to tinker for managers.

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      You are close at last post.

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      1. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        a bit too close.

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