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The Sun Dream Team – Selection Guide – Defenders

In our second selection guide for The Sun Dream Team, we turn our attention to the defence, casting an eye on the strategies involved in selecting a back four and the prime candidates on offer.

While the big points scorers can be found further up the field, with a quartet of defenders a pre-requisite for our lineups in The Sun Dream Team, we can ill-afford to neglect this area. As with our goalkeeper selection, we’re looking for regular starters first and foremost, although, as we’ll see, attacking instincts and the potential for goals is also key.

Before we begin looking at specific player options, let’s analyse the factors that govern our selection – including last season’s performance, the influence of cup fixtures and possible transfer window strategies.

The Strategies

Top Ten Sun Dream Team Defenders by Overall Points 2012/13

NameTeamStarts7+ RatingsStar ManGoalsCSGCPoints
BainesEverton4432571248196
IvanovicChelsea5421381860177
VertonghenTottenham Hotspur4828371359164
LuizChelsea5018171955153
AggerLiverpool3820131741138
ShawcrossStoke City4022511344135
JohnsonLiverpool4120211846135
WilliamsSwansea City4125301347129
JagielkaEverton4118431144129
MertesackerArsenal4314131743124

Looking back at the previous campaign’s data, it’s clear that some familiar names from other Fantasy games also dominate in The Sun Dream Team. Leighton Baines’ status as the top defensive asset is compounded by his standing, here: he finished the season some 22 points ahead of his nearest rival in The Sun Dream Team, despite claiming just 12 clean sheets. Everton’s progress to the FA Cup semi-finals boosted another eye-catching Premier League season for Baines, who achieved a points per game stat of 4.5 – by far the most impressive amongst the top ranked defenders.

The Chelsea pairing of Branislav Ivanovic and David Luiz benefited from a successful Europa League campaign but turned in points per game numbers of 3.2 and 2.9 respectively – emphasising Baines’ efficiency. Tottenham’s Jan Vertonghen was also aided by Europa League appearances and, overall, it’s significant that these top four defenders all claimed seven or more goals over the season – underlining the importance of targeting those capable of contributing at the sharp end.

While goals are clearly an important factor, we should also consider the role played by points gained for Star Man and 7+ ratings.

Baines, Stoke’s Ryan Shawcross and West Ham’s James Collins all topped the Star Man charts for defenders with modest totals of five awards. In 2011/12, Baines, along with Shawcross, were two of eight defenders tied on just three at the top. Compare this to Juan Mata’s 15, and the 13 accrued by both Gareth Bale and Luis Suarez last season, and it’s clear that, like goalkeepers, defenders struggle to overshadow their attacking team-mates when it comes to picking up man-of-the-match status.

Points from 7+ Sun Ratings are easier to obtain, however. There were ten defenders who earned 7+ ratings on 20 or more occasions last season, with Baines registering a hugely impressive tally of 32 from his 44 starts, gathering 96 points in this area. Vertonghen also gained heavily here – he collected 7+ ratings on 28 occasions from 48 starts, while Swansea’s Ashley Williams earned the same accolade in 25 of his 41 Dream Team starts.

As a rule, aside from the obvious benefit of scoring in a match, dominant central defenders and full-backs with strong attacking impetus are the most likely to earn a 7+ rating. Baines has featured in the top five rankings for 7+ ratings over the last four seasons – emphasising the importance of a consistent attacking presence. Similarly, both Shawcross and Williams have made the top ten for 7+ ratings in the past two seasons (with Star Man awards also a factor) – it’s obvious that the duo have something to offer in this area.

Cup Campaigns

There’s no question that a Cup run and, in particular, a European campaign can be big factors behind the number of appearances, and therefore the points tallies, of your defenders. In some cases, defensive stalwarts can be less prone to rotation than their attacking counterparts.

Vertonghen was a key benefactor of Tottenham’s Europa League campaign last term, earning 41 of his 164 points in Europe. Similarly, both Ivanovic and Luiz collected 17 and 25 additional points from Champions League and Europa League matches, with Liverpool’s Glen Johnson fetching 18 additional points.

We’re not talking big margins here, but clearly, targeting players with the potential of regular starts in European matches is another factor to consider.

Domestic cup runs can also be considered, but these are far trickier to anticipate, with rotation in the FA and Capital One Cups likely to be rife amongst those sides also competing in Europe. Typically, we’ll see all the Champions League contenders rotate across the board in the domestic cup competitions, leading us to look to those teams outside of these four, perhaps honing in on those sides who will field strong lineups in both domestic trophies – the likes of Everton, West Ham and Norwich, perhaps.

Window Watching

Planning transfer strategies according to The Sun Dream Team Transfer Window is crucial, not least in defence where you can tailor your tactics to give yourself the best opportunity of earning clean sheet rewards.

Transfer Window 1 opens with just three Premier League fixtures played out, on September 3. You’ll have three transfers to use before the Gameweek 4 on September 14 and, with a “use them or lose” policy, it’s wise to examine the options of signing defenders with this in mind.

It’s worth considering a policy of adopting one or even two slots in your back four that can be used to rotate a defender in and out in each Transfer Window according to fixtures and cup progress. Of course, such best laid plans can be ripped up by untimely injuries, however.

The Season Ticker is your key weapon here. We can easily identify those with the easier fixtures over the first three Gameweeks and, if you’re a member, you can use the “clean sheets” filter on the interactive ticker to find those defences most likely to earn shut-outs in this spell.

Our members can also tailor their ticker to examine the next Transfer Window that opens on November 12. By restricting the full Members Ticker to Gameweeks 3-11 you can analyse the difficulty of fixtures between Transfer Window 1 and Transfer Window 2, revealing some valid strategies and targets.

As an example, Southampton face home matches with West Ham, Crystal Palace, Swansea, Fulham and Hull all before Transfer Window 2, therefore, switching in a defender from St Mary’s in Transfer Window 1 for this spell looks an option.

With the Capital One Cup reaching the fourth round by October 28, you will be able to adjust your defence according to those teams who have made progress by the time Transfer Window 2 comes into effect.

It’s not so easy in Europe, with the Europa League and Champions League both on matchday four of the group stages by the time Transfer Window 2 opens.

The FA Cup Third Round does not take place until January 4, so progress here only becomes a factor for the Transfer Window 3 that opens on January 21.

The Players

Baines and Vertonghen are obvious draws once again this season with both set to offer a significant attacking threat and assured league starts. There are caveats that might curb investment prior to Transfer Window 1, however, with Baines’ future at Goodison still not uncertain and Vertonghen looking a doubt for the opening fixtures with a pre-season ankle injury. Once settled, however, both look hugely tempting as heavy-hitter investments with Vertonghen’s price tag of £5.5m, coupled with Tottenham’s kind schedule of fixtures up until Transfer Window 2, perhaps giving him the edge once fit.

Coverage of both Man City and United will be high on the agenda given their potential to harvest clean sheets, although the fixture list suggests that initial investment should go the way of Manuel Pellegrini’s side. City have Newcastle, Cardiff and Hull before the first transfer window, while United’s defence face both Liverpool and Chelsea in the same spell.

Vincent Kompany seems likely to be the most secure option in the City rearguard with both full-backs and the Belgian’s central defensive partner set to shuffle on the domestic front and in Europe. If you’re not spending on Joe Hart in goal, the City captain looks a shoo-in, at least until Transfer Window 1 swings open and the United defence comes into play.

That will also give us time to assess how David Moyes will approach his back four. With the likes of Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand, Jonny Evans and Phil Jones all available for the centre-half roles, the full-backs – Patrice Evra and Rafael, could be the safer routes to take. Jones, if he can cement a start, either in defence or midfield, looks the one to watch given his modest £4m price tag.

Chelsea’s defensive assets are difficult to sift through. Jose Mourinho will surely rotate at the back and, aside from Ashley Cole (£6.0), few look assured of regular starts in the league, let alone the cup competitions. Luiz, with a significant goal threat, looks to be the crown jewel but at £6.5m, his potential comes at a price. With a difficult start to the campaign (United, Everton, Tottenham and City all before Transfer Window 2), it may be wise to look elsewhere in order to assess Mourinho’s selection pattern.

Lower down the brackets, Ashley Williams, with a valuation of just £3.5m, has attracted more interest than any other defender – he’s been selected by over 31% of managers in The Sun Dream Team so far. Swansea’s Europa League campaign is presumably a factor, here, with Chico (£2.5) finding his way into over 21% of sides. Both could be set to plummet should Swansea falter in qualifying, although arguably, the duo have merits regardless of potential European returns.

Liverpool’s Kolo Toure looks a stronger option in the same bracket. Having figured prominently in pre-season and with Martin Skrtel’s future at Anfield far from certain, Toure looks exceptional value at just £3m. As we mentioned in our previous guide to The Sun Dream Team goalkeepers, there is real merit in acquiring both Toure and Simon Mignolet given their price and Liverpool’s strong early schedule.

Baines’ team-mate Seamus Coleman (£3m) offers an interesting alternative. Classed as a midfielder last season, Coleman is expected to claim the start on the right side of Roberto Martinez’s defence, either as a full-back or wing-back. That should see him contribute regularly to attack and draw plenty of 7+ ratings should Martinez start his Goodison career strongly.

In the budget bracket, West Ham’s defence offers new signing Razvan Rat for just £1m – a hugely attractive option going into Transfer Window 1 with the Hammers facing Cardiff and Stoke at Upton Park, with a trip to Newcastle sandwiched in between. Rat could be a keeper over the season given that price tag, although a transfer out to cash in on Southampton’s aforementioned run up to Transfer Window 2 looks a good tactic.

Full-backs Luke Shaw and Nathaniel Clyne can each be acquired for £2.5m and if Jose Fonte or Jos Hooiveld can secure at start, they can be snapped up for just £1m. Beyond those two clubs, Norwich City’s Michael Turner, at just £1.5m, looks another bargain. If he can gain continue to command starts alongside Sebastian Bassong, he should offer value, particularly if Chris Hughton’s side can translate their summer spending into a domestic Cup run.

The Sun Dream Team Scout League

The Sun Dream Team is long established as one of the biggest players in the UK Fantasy Football market, attracting a huge audience wowed by the most substantial prizes on offer. Once again, this season, there’s a huge £500,000 prize pool to be divided up. Registration for teams and leagues opens on August 1 but you can select your lineups right now.

We also have our own Fantasy Football Scout League with a £1000 top prize on offer to the winner.

Once you register and create your team or teams, simply use the following PIN and password to enter.

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PIN: 8061654

You’ll find these details on the middle column of the homepage from this point on.

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2,838 Comments Post a Comment
  1. No Luck
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Dzeko first choice at City surely too good to be true? How do you see City lining up?

    Fernandinho, Toure
    Navas, Jovetic/Aguero, Silva
    Dzeko/Negredo

    Is the best thing to get Dzeko and risk rotation, or to avoid City altogether and risk missing a massive score GW1. I just can't see Dzeko starting many games in spite of the managers comments :/

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    1. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Get Lukaku and Cole.
      Then after week 1, having saw City, sell these 2 for w city attacker and another defender, or, if its Dzeko, just Lukaku.

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    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I believe it is too good to be true, he might be number 1 while Aguero isn't fit and the new boys are not settled yet but I don't think it will stay that way

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      1. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I know. Why spend all that money to play Dzeko.

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      2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Sure but that's the point isn't it playing FPL you're looking at who you think is most likely to play in a particular game. Luk and Dzecko are looking prime candidates in the first G/W as it stands.

        We are primarily FPL orientated here after all are we not?

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    3. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Home to Newcastle isn't going to end 5 or 7 nil

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      1. Noisy Neighbour
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        6 nil? 🙂

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        1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          😆

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    4. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      At 7.5m and with Bale possibly gone, he's cheap enough for me to punt for the first couple of weeks, with him as my 3rd striker. I'm interested to see how it goes. He's by far the cheapest route into the City attack. I wasn't interested when I thought he'd sit on the bench all of the time but Pelle's convinced me that he will start at least some games.

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    5. No Luck
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks for the comments, I guess best thing to do is to monitor the Aguero situation! Lukaku is the other possible absolute bargain!

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  2. DelPuich
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    i think people underestimate how good of a coach ferguson was. to be honest the players they have now are nothing compared to chelsea and city yet they still managed to win the title under him. i wouldnt be surprised if they struggled a lot this season

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I think that Moyes is the only person who's not expecting ManU to struggle this season

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      1. DelPuich
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        im not so sure about that. ive seen plenty of people believing they will win this year

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    2. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Agree. Not so much "coach" but knew how to get more from his players and could spot a player and a player in decline. Also knew his tactics far better than moyes will.

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    3. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I gave you a +1 for that because I totally agree and think they will be mixing it with Swans/Liv for the 4th spot.

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    4. lilmessipran
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      agree with you totally ....city and chelsea had such a better squad last year...its just incredible how he managed to win the title

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      1. Kylos
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        United had the best squad, Chelsea/City may have had better teams

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    5. simsey
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I been saying the same thing mate, exactly the same thing.
      I wont be at all surprised if they struggle but I am also prepared for a surprise from Moyes too.
      He got more than the sum of the parts from Everton so it is possible that he can do the same again.

      I guess the difference is we cant take it for granted at OT anymore

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      1. DelPuich
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        im not convinced moyes got the best out of what he had. considering the players he had fifth of sixth is the spot they should have been finishing anyways

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        1. simsey
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          A CL spot in 2009, credit where its due.

          But if you dont agree he overperformed with Everton then his ability to spot a player must surely be recognised, Mirallas, Baines, Jagielka, Lescott, Distin, Pienaar, Coleman, Arteta, Tim Cahillall bought for peanuts

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  3. EoinM
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    A quick RMT.. please and thankQ.
    Cech, Boruc
    Toure,Coleman,Amorebieata,Wilson,Collins
    Hazard, Coutinho, Mirallas, Giacherrini, Campana
    Rvp, Lukaku, Anelka

    Sound 😉

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    1. DarPaC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      what's your plan for the Chelsea blank? Seems like a big compromise in defense and midfield to accommodate RVP

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      1. EoinM
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        True..I just think he could destroy those who ignore him.
        Planning to switch Lukaku to an in form striker and keep the other two..any other advice?

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        1. DarPaC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          seems like a lot of investment in GK if you're keeping Cech for more than the DGW.......wouldn't it be better to have Luiz with potential attacking points and a cheaper GK combo?

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          1. simsey
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Keepers have been known to hit the 170/180 pt mark. for 6.5 m thats a fantastic return.
            If one keeper is gonna do it this season it'll probably be Mourinhos...

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  4. Mersy
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    http://imgur.com/rpWB5Xm

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      😀

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  5. DarPaC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    would appreciate any views on this team.......

    Mignolet / (Boruc)
    Luiz / Toure / Clyne (Chester / Ramage)
    Hazard / Silva / Lampard / Coutinho / (Noble)
    Benteke / Lambert / Anelka

    RMT tool returning 75 points for the week......and leaves 3M in the bank

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      *Runs off to use RMT tool*

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    2. EoinM
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Looks good..Like the unique Lampard pick..
      Not sure about Lambert
      Same as myself you choose Coutinho over wally..lets hope it works out!!

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    3. tsiailis01
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      i like your midfield, one thing i learnt last season was having a very strong midfield

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      1. DarPaC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        on GW3 last season I started a second team with 5 strong midfielders and ended up with a strong score. Seems harder to do that this year with less 4M players

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    4. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      What about GW2/3

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      1. DarPaC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        swap Hazard / Lampard GW 2 and the other GW3. Quite happy to keep Luiz against MU as I think it'll be a tight game

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    5. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      If Lamps plays for England, It will be 3 games in __ days
      Answer gets an ataboy

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      1. EoinM
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        6

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        1. Freshy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers Eoinm

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          1. EoinM
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            Just a guess..is it right?

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            1. Freshy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              no clue

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  6. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Is mr Applebonkers still around?

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  7. nevins84
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Migs
    Luiz Clyne Collins

    Paulinho Navas Caz Hazard Cout

    Dezko Benteke

    Boruc Anelka Turner McNaughton

    Im quietly confident.....

    Any Suggestions ?

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      think Manone works better with Migs at 4.5

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  8. The Machine
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Been away for a few days, just read some comments regarding Dzeko

    What have i missed, then?

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Lies, misquotes and lost in translations, a few goals and a massive bandwagon

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Oh, and you can't get down voted anymore... 😉

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      2. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Ok, got any link as to where all this took off from? (apart for the pre season goals...)

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    2. Matt
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      nope nothing, just keep moving. Pellegrini's only said that he's the main striker no biggie

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      1. Matt
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        oh yeah I should add that the comment was in Spanish and no one really knows what he meant. All we're getting is some translation that may or may not be right

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    3. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Pellegrini is trying to get Dzeko's profile up ahead of selling him, so is talking him up and playing him pre-season.
      Because of this, everyone is falling for it and getting him week 1.
      Come deadline day when injuries happen and "nailed on" guys are found not to be so nailed on and new players arrive etc. While we are all wanting form guys in and chelsea out etc. These guys will be taking a hit to sell dzeko as he'll be playing in Germany.

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      1. Podge
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        So cynical so young, where is the trust in a nice old mans possible words ?

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      2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        This is either a conspiracy theory or piece of journalistic insightfulness.

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        1. Sánchez
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Just seen it all before. 😉

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    4. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I think Dame Edna has outstayed his welcome in British comedic thinking circles.

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  9. No Luck
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Just some quick defence questions:

    Mert, Sagna or Gibbs? Leaning towards Sagna, but Mert seems very popular and is Gibbs explosive potential worth punting on?

    Luiz, Cole or Terry? Thinking Cole or Terry at the moment but Luiz wins hands down if Mourinho would tell us he starts both games.

    Liverpool fans, is Toure nailed on? Skrtel future seems uncertain but Rodgers will surely strengthen if he leaves so maybe Toure's status is still up in the air?

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    1. tsiailis01
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      wat about kosecelny?

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      1. No Luck
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I think Mert is probably slightly more nailed on, and possibly slightly more bonus potential, but yeah not much between them!

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    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Mert or Gibbs, not Sagna

      Luiz or Cole, not Terry

      Toure is nailed on until they buy someone better

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      1. No Luck
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Why not Sagna? He has small assist potential and I think he's nailed on. Bit of a halfway house between Mert and Gibbs maybe.

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    3. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Toure may be in line to start the first few games but he'll be far from nailed on across the season.

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      1. No Luck
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        OK thanks!

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    4. nevins84
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I think LFC will sign that mad greek popadopuls and i would expect him to be a starter.. nut.. he is just returning from injury no preseason so i think Toure at this stage is nailed on for the first 3 or 4 games not so sure after that if papa arrives....

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      1. No Luck
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks!

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    5. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Gibbs through injury he's nailed for the first couple at least as it stands at the moment.

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  10. tsiailis01
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Im really feeling mirallas this season, and i think van persie is a must in any managers team!

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Is this David Moyes?

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      1. tsiailis01
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        this is moyes, thats y i was ranked top 350 in the world last season;)

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Wait a second ... *removes team link*

          ... and I was ranked top 35. Ha!

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          1. tsiailis01
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            haha ok show me ur team so i can copy it lol

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        2. Podge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          No way Moyes is in the top 350 managers in the world 🙂

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    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      +1 -1

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    3. EoinM
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Here here!

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  11. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Coutinho is heavily overrated around these parts...

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    1. tsiailis01
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      yeh but he is in form and finished well last season

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      He's a safe way into an attack with good fixtures and doubts about their strikers. Quite sensible really.

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      1. nevins84
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Agreed

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    3. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      The annual 'Pool positivity. 😀

      *Cue Gerrard quote saying that they can challenge for the title this year*

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    4. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      🙄

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      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I'd much prefer Silva or Gerrard for that price.

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        1. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          I'm not even that much of a fan of Coutinho compared to some others but Silva did nothing last season to warrant a place in my midfield this time round, I'd much prefer a rotation risk striker, especially if Silva will be playing a little deeper this season, as for Gerrard I think he'll be playing too deep to get consistent points, you'd be praying for a penalty or a Stevie G special every game, he will go through a purple patch at some stage but I believe Coutinho to be the safer and more in form choice...

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    5. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I am not sure what yo think with him.
      His pre Liverpool stats were average at best.
      His Liverpool ones were good.
      But so were Jelavic' and Cisse when they arrived in January.
      January signings are fresher and out to impress. They do well.
      Come August, they may be found out.

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      1. Lawrø
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        ^I sort of agree with this

        I'm just hoping he'll be better this season though as he was weedy last season and has bulked up over the Summer which will suit sterner opposition better, he also has shown no signs of slowing down with his pre season form, however I predicted when he signed that he'd be okay to begin with and better next season... which probably means he'll be awful this season knowing my predictions...

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        1. Sánchez
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          He does need bulking up a bit and that is promising.
          Should help his strength and even his speed.
          I am getting him for Hazard week 3 probably.

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    6. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Daniel Sturridge.

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    7. Noisy Neighbour
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Perhaps, but he doesn't even have to match his per minute output from last season to be worth his price tag. If Bale is truly out of the picture, Coutinho most likely takes his place in my squad.

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  12. Crouch Potato!
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Very peacful on here tonight. Feels a touch strange.

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      *my comment to you is under review 🙂

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Bugger, want to see it now! 🙂

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    2. Countess Weffie von Wobbego…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I've seen Kim mentioned here but I can't find him. Who's Kim?

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    3. DelPuich
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I HATE YOU

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        That's more like it! 😉

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  13. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    This game is difficult 🙁 So many options... and so many combinations of the various options...

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Whatever happens, I almost got it perfect 😉

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      It gets easier to pick with each pint you have.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Well, I only have one left in the fridge so that'll have to do 🙂

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      2. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Milk is good for you 😉

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    3. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      its really not that hard..follow the flock for a bit and find a differential 🙂

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  14. Demel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    My first RMT of the season

    Speroni/McGregor
    Cole / Mertesacker / Coleman / Chester / Parr
    Hazard / Cazorla / Adam / Snodgrass / Thomas
    RVP / Lukaku / Anelka

    (£2m in the bank)

    Good, bad or just plain ugly?

    ps anywhere which has a list of how the new bonus points would have worked last season? eg a list of the top 10 players who would have scored the most points using the new bp system.

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    1. DelPuich
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      in all honesty its no that good

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    2. tsiailis01
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      will snodgrass play in the whole?, norwwich signed 2 strikers

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      1. tsiailis01
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        hole lol

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  15. DelPuich
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    whos more nailed on, koscielny or mert

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      i saw Mert buy No More Nails the other week

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    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Since neither have an adequate replacement...........
      Yours is a trick question

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      1. DelPuich
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        vermalen

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    3. Mr.Helmut
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Mert, is by far more nailed on. He was involved in the majority of arsenal's games last season and was involved in all of the 14 clean sheets they kept while koscielny was there for at least 7 of those clean sheets playing a whole 1000+ mins less than mert

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  16. The Machine
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    WHERE ON EARTH IS THE DOWNVOTE BUTTON??

    Who is the daddy now?

    Who is the unparalleled champ of this game?

    😎 😎 😎 😎

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Forgot to add

      DOWNVOTE THAT!

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      im surprised you can show your face after displaying that team of yours a week ago

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      1. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        ?

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        1. Parm
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          He's talking about the 2nd Ashes test 😉

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          1. Optimus.
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            no im talking about the supposed shit fpl team he proposed the other night 🙂

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    3. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Too many whiners complaining about their vote tallies. Drove Mark mad.

      I wonder if loads of e-mails to FPl Towers will get them to remove their ranks from the site when you come to see the sad reality of your own this season ...

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      1. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Haha what?

        The only reason i wanted it removed was becoz the mods said i could get moderated if the downvotes continued

        As for the FPL parts, maybe i'd be doing you a favour, judging by how excellent you performed last year

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          I do so feel the need to defend myself to a FPL newb who hasn't completed one season and who eradicated the evidence of his past season ...

          But I will resist the strong lure.

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        2. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Nate - downvoting is gone. Discussions of it were unwanted back then and now it's gone they're really unnecessary. Let's move on. Thanks.

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  17. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Who scores more GW1:

    1. Lampard (HUL, AVL) -4pts

    2. Mirallas (nor)

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      1

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Lamps

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    3. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      1

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    4. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I'd need a hit to do Lamps/Lukaku -> Mirallas/Sturridge GW2

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Can't find the 0.5m elsewhere...

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    5. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Really think hes gonna play 3 games in about a week?

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  18. Sánchez
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    My work colleagues who all have zero experience are all joining for a money league this year.
    I usually play in another 2 leagues of 25-30 and 40 plus player. I won one and lost one on transfers made last year.

    Moral dilemma. Is it unfair of me to enter the work money league having several seasons under my belt and an awareness of FISO, membership on FFS and more commitment than these newbie casuals?

    Even if it is, their money will be Sanchez' money come May. Well, come October. Hahaha. 😀

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      20-25 of your workmates posted similar messages earlier 😉

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      1. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Haha. Surely they wont ALL finish in the top 50?

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      2. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        🙂

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    2. Infinite Sheldon
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      It's their fault if they don't utilise information available. This site is linked to the fantasy football website so it's not like its a secret. From here they should find fiso.

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      1. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        They still wont have a chance.
        You learn a lot each year just playing this game.
        It'll take a good few years for any of them to get competitive.
        They aren't even that into football. Haw haw haw.

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        1. Infinite Sheldon
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          What do you consider competitive? I finished 19k my first season.

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          1. Sánchez
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            That wouldn't have made top 3 in my main league.
            Admittedly though, we all have a few seasons experience.
            Generally to win ours, your aiming to break 10k.

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            1. Infinite Sheldon
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              So there are people who know what they're doing in your work league? Or do they have no chance breaking top 10k?

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    3. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Nope, they are adults who wanna gamble.

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    4. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      It would only be morally questionable if they didn't have access to such resources. As they are in the public domain, you should make the most of education and insight, morally unencumbered. 😀

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  19. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Wenger: "Sagna has settled in well as a centre back. We have a strong squad. We are there on the market trying to strengthen our team."

    Jenkinson anyone? 😉

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    1. Noisy Neighbour
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Or are they trying to strengthen the team by buying someone to start in place of Jenkinson? Either way, if it means never having to watch Sagna try to deliver a cross again, it's good news for football fans everywhere!

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      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I believe Arsenal are in for Malaga Right-Back Jesus Gamez.

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  20. tsiailis01
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    give me a smiley face if u get febragas in ur team if he signs for united. (slim chance)

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      🙁

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      🙂 1-2% chance, Ronaldo however....

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      1. tsiailis01
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        ronaldo would be my captain all season!

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    3. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      🙁

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  21. Lucy.
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Ok I've seen the Dzeko madness. I should have realised that a few comments shouldn't have been enough to move him from blacklist to team sheet. So that's 7.5m to spend... Any ideas for someone to go alongside probably Giroud and Lukaku in GW1?

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Yer, think that is the bees

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  22. tom66
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Seems the writing is on the wall for Bale ......how much would Soldado cost if he came to Spurs ?

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      9-9.5m would be right IMO.

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    2. Demí
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      9-9.5 is the general consensus

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      1. tom66
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        A little pricey but someone to keep an eye on.....can't see him having much competition from Ade and Defoe for a regular starting spot.

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        1. Infinite Sheldon
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          He would be in my team definitely at that price.

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        2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Think greedy Defoe will have summin to say 'bout that.

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    3. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      30 real life 10 on FPL

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      1. Sánchez
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        More than Negredo? No.
        Value is based on club largely.
        RVP Arsenal was 13m on back of higher score last year.
        This year, as he is United, he went to 14m.

        9m max.

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        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          I think I'd take a punt on him at 9.0, decent players around him.

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          1. Sánchez
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            I'll 100% take a punt at 9m too.
            Will be very good returns goal wise.

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    4. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Not sure, however very wary of him. Also Spurs minus Bale may struggle a bit. Sides will certainly fear them less, particularly whilst playing at home.

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      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        au contrare..
        With Holtby running the show?

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    5. DelPuich
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      a chewed piece of gum and a paper clip at the very least

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    6. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      9.5 m

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  23. Infinite Sheldon
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    So is aguero definitely missing the start of the season?

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  24. tsiailis01
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    i think bale just wants to play with ronaldo.

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      😉

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    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Bale just wants a nice tan
      Aint gonna happen in London

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        That and champions league.

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    3. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Nah United wont get them both 😉

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      1. ccc
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        😀

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    4. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I think Ronaldo wants to play with Bale!

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  25. Ellipsis
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Re:City attack...

    I'm no master scout but I'm sure I heard a rumour that Jesus (Navas) was nailed on?

    Boom boom.

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    1. tsiailis01
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      navas will get 2 goals with 8 assists throuout the whole season

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      1. Infinite Sheldon
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        He will definitely get more if he plays regularly.

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Certain for a rise around easter
      Heard he's good with a cross too
      Stop me please 🙁

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      1. Dax85
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Haha brilliant!

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      2. Infinite Sheldon
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Just got that.

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        1. Ellipsis
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          The "boom boom" kind of gave it away (R.I.P Basil Brush) but well spotted! Still though, you have to love the intensity of Tsiail and sheldon...deep in the mixer! Big respect! 🙂 ...sorry for being silly guys! Peace

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  26. Kylos
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    What price would Ronaldo be IF he came back to united. Big, if but still. (99.9% sure he won't)

    14.5mill? Would surely be more expensive than RVP?

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    1. tsiailis01
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      lol id pay 15

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    2. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      He would have to be 15m. Just because he would outscore RVP and would get 5 pts a goal.

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      1. tsiailis01
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        so wats messi worth?

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        1. Sánchez
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Haha. At Man Utd too? Has to be 15.5m

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        2. lilmessipran
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          play fantasy la liga ...although its no fun coz u dnt have to change ur captain throughout the season..

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    3. Ellipsis
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I'd imagine (like the speculation) that he'd only arrive if GB was a DD. At that point I reckon FPL would be surprisingly crazy/naive and price him midway between bale and RVP at 13 (new manager etc). If; he comes, bale goes and Suarez stays we'll all be scrambling last minute/on wildcards to secure Ronaldo/Suarez over a Bale/RVP...I will be anyway: Just my throw away food for thought 🙂

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  27. Mr.Helmut
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Ok people I'm new to this site, last year I finished in the top 1000 world wide in the fantasy league (which was 856th exactly) not bad if I do say so myself but what was key to it was my strong start last season when I had michu as captain on opening day and he scored twice and other guys like tevez, dyer, petric and they all scored at least once. With my current team now, I was wondering if I can get off to a strong start on the opening day or maybe my team is more built for a long haul than just the first gameweek? I just want to get off to a quick start

    Mignolet

    Mertesacker - Collins - A. Cole

    Silva - Hazard - Gerrard - Walcott - Mirallas

    Lukaku - Anelka

    Subs Bench = Boruc - Yanga-Mbiwa - Clyne - J. Rod

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    1. tsiailis01
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      wow nice midfield

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        At serious negative impact to the front 3.

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        1. Mr.Helmut
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Yea, I always like take it cheap upfront, I'm a guy addicted to budget def. and strong mids. lol. But last year it worked because I had benteke, lambert and berbatov as the three guys since they were all cheap from the start but this time around, I ain't so lucky since lambert raised by a whole 1.5 and benteke from like a whole 2.5 - 3.0 mil. My only change from this point will be taking off cole after the double gw and use the money to upgrade to a forward like lambert, berba or even bony

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          1. Crouch Potato!
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            The differance with your present strike force is all those strikers have the potential to become unrealiable. Chelsea can still land Rooney and even if they don't it show's their desire to sign a new first striker. Anelka ain't young, and JR a player I like an may consider, is priced low. If your frontline hit probs it will cost you hits to rearrange it.

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            1. Mr.Helmut
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              Yep, you are right, I def. thought about all those same points, especially with anelka. I myself don't even believe he will get past 10 goals for west brom, JR is the same thing, don't think he will reach the 10 goal mark either and as for lukaku, he can but if rooney really comes in at chelsea, then I will really have to rearrange that frontline seriously. But my first change comes in GW 2, I am taking off cole, putting in some def. who is 5 mil and with the 0.5 I have in the bank, overall, I will have 2 mil + 6 mil from taking JR off and I will use that for someone more reliable, lambert, berbatov or even take a chance with the new boy Bony

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      2. Mr.Helmut
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks man, that's how I always operate, like last year, my midfield was basically the same five guys all year long with a few transfers out when it was a double gw for whoever, like my mid from the start last time was michu, bale, carzola, mata & adam johnson and they all got me tons of points, but this year, I have a strong feeling about these five guys to be the strong hold for my whole season and help me do great again

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    2. Smarty Pants
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      you almost stole my current team! 😯
      I have Dzeko&Nolan instead of Gerrard&JRod and slightly different defence

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      1. Mr.Helmut
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        I actually had nolan at the start XD, but I switched him to upgrade to silva and as for Dzeko, I am soooooooooooo nervous with city's frontline. I don't know if he will be the starter but so far in pre-season, he has been great, but something is sneakily telling me despite my doubts, he will be the starter along with aguero, lol

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    3. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Without Suarez, Gerrard will score less points. Suarez earned a lot of penalty kicks for Liverpool last season.

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      1. Mr.Helmut
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        You have an insanely valid point there. Gerrard got 185 points overall, but even if he gets less, I'm just hoping it's just like somewhere around 140-170, I will be completely satisfied if he gets me around that area of points

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  28. Torched999
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    thoughts plz guys? How can i fit dzeko into this..

    Marshall/boruc

    Collins Cole Koscielny (chester turner)

    Nolan Hazard Wally Bale

    JRod Benteke Sturridge

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    1. Torched999
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      forgot (thomas)

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      1. RVP fc
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        caulker will play ahead of turner so get parr or ward. IMO snod > nolan.

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  29. yanky
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    alright guys, rip it apart please! assuming bale is gone, Ive landed with:

    Migs Boruc
    Luiz Clyne Collins Chester Parr
    Hazard Walcott Gerrard Snodgrass Nolan
    Aguero Jrodriguez Lukkaku

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    1. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Hard to fault that. Like that you have a proper backup to migs. All good choices individually.

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  30. RVP fc
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 8 months ago

    Whats newcastles predicted back four?

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    1. Demí
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Debuchy - Coloccini - Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa - Santon

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      1. RVP fc
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        thanks. yanga-mbiwa looks a good punt so

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      Coloccini is injured so leaky as feck I reckon

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Is he?

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        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Eh I though I heard it on here, could be wrong, its not in the injury news :blush:

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      2. RVP fc
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        for long? who is good value at 4.5m so

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      3. King Eric, in America
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        Banned for checking the throat size of opposition forwards, iirc.

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        1. Podge
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 8 months ago

          Ah that was it, choked someone.

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          1. King Eric, in America
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 8 months ago

            United are benefiting from the new FA guidelines in place.

            The rule states: “Any player dismissed during a friendly match, will be automatically suspended from future friendly matches, and not competitive fixtures, as decided by The Football Association or relevant County Association.

            “Red or yellow cards do not count for the accumulation of offences, and will not affect competitive fixtures.

            “Where sanctions are imposed in respect of cautions on participants with their agreement (e.g. as part of tournament rules), any such sanction may only apply to friendly matches.”

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            1. King Eric, in America
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 8 months ago

              He's served his ban vs. Blackpool on the 28th.

              http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s70/st182922.htm

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              1. Podge
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 8 months ago

                Okey doke cheers

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    3. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 8 months ago

      I'm looking at Mbiwa over Turner.

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      1. Podge
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 8 months ago

        After week 1 their fixtures are lovely

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