Dugout Discussion

The Dugout Discussion – Tuesday

Fantasy managers have just one match to entertain us this evening as United play their final home game of what has been a tumultuous first campaign of the post-Ferguson era. Ryan Giggs’ brief tenure as interim-manager of the Red Devils has already served up an impressive hammering of Norwich before Sunderland quickly burst the bubble of optimism last weekend:

Giggs makes as many as eight alterations from the side that lost to the Black Cats, with the Welshman joinging the likes of Nemanja Vidic, Juan Mata and Robin Van Persie on the bench. Once again, the hosts are without Wayne Rooney, who has failed to recover from the illness and/or groin problem that saw him miss the Black Cats clash.

Steve Bruce makes five changes for visitors Hull – with their top-flight survival now secured, the Tigers manager’s teamsheet clearly has one eye on the upcoming FA Cup Final clash against Arsenal.

Our Twitter feed carries all the news from tonight’s team sheets, while the Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open to collect your real-time reactions to this evening’s events.

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  1. JayBomb
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    39 Pts with Zaba, Yaya and Mannone to play Mata Cap 🙁

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Almost exactly the same.

      Mata wasn't a bad choice. We could not have foreseen this debacle

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    2. jdoyle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Basically the same predicament here 🙁

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    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    0 points from Rooney, Mata and Evra tonight - HOW?! 😯

    literally wtf.

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    1. Maddocio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Snap!

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    2. Namtab Nomolos
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      The tiny consolation is at least I didn't get a 1 point showing from Rooney, so I'm 3pts better off than that.

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        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        tell that to my 0 points chester off the bench. another DGW fail. 😉

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        1. Namtab Nomolos
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          It's like one of those Final Destination movies, where very safety catch or back-up fails no matter what you do. You can't escape the grim reaper of FPL points.

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    3. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Cos they didn't play

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  2. HVT
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Steven Gerrard on Ssn
    " you never get to be down at this club (Liverpool) , even when things seem they may be Slipping away from you "
    🙂

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      He did say 'literally:' just after haha

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    2. Lazarus
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Good lad, he has a sense of humour.

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      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        He'll need that in the retirement home 😉

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        1. Lazarus
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Which will be managed by Giggs 😉

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          1. HVT
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Fergie will have frequent wine sales in there too , I believe 😉

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      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      slipping 😀

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  3. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    6 + YYT +Nasri +Oshea

    Vs

    Zabaleta + Colback + Mannone

    I'm the latter. Need a Sunderland miracle and zabaleta clean sheet... And YYT + Nasri blanks...

    Faaaawwwwwkkkk

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  4. # Young Gun SEAMUS #
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    seems next week mata will start ?? or not ?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Well, why don't you ask your fecking self??? :-d

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        😀

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        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          🙂

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  5. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Giggsy and Vida, legends. Thank you for your service to the club.

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    1. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Legends! Don't forget Davey Moyes, he broke more records than both and in quicker time.

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  6. Werkself
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Even with all the differences of opinion and insults tossed back and forth on this site I think we can all agree that the Grav-of-the-year award should be shared by Pablito and Chris_IntoTheAbyss.

    Can I get an "Amen"?

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Nope

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    2. The Shadow
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Can we get you a pair of glasses so you can have a better look at Chris' grav?

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  7. Sticky Mockwell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Quiz question 1 – Who has scored the most points per game against teams in the top half of the league table?
    (taken from the 11 players who have scored over 150 points this season)

    1 = Suarez (obviously!) = 8.5 ppg
    2 = ? = 6.7 ppg

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    1. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Bony?

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      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        oh Bony doesn't have 150, maybe Coleman

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    2. A.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Lindegaard? For his one appearance vs Newcastle

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      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        dont even have to check to see that he doesnt have 150 points

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        1. A.
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Balls, forgot about that requirement

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    3. Sticky Mockwell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      * sorry from the 19 players who have scored 150 pts, my typo

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    4. A.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Got to be Sturridge

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    5. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Guess it's not Coleman, is this on Lukaku as well? Or maybe even Roonpig?

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      1. Sticky Mockwell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Yes, it is Lukaku again. If you limit it to the top 5 he's no.1 by over 1.5ppg! Uneven track bully

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        1. Smarty Pants
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          you forgot Aguero, he's on 7 ppg, lukaku is 3rd

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          1. Sticky Mockwell
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            I didn't forget Aguero but I may well have made a small mistake in my calculation. Apologies for any anguish caused to you or others! I will instigate 3rd party checks on any future posts.
            Yours, Sticky Mockwell CMath

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    6. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      John terry?

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    7. Smarty Pants
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Rooney of course. By a huge margin of 0.00563 PPG over Yaya.

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      1. Smarty Pants
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        oh wait read it wrong it's vs bottom half

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        1. Smarty Pants
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Ok it's Aguero 🙂

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  8. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Roses are red
    My arrow is green
    And its all thanks to
    That dutch scoring marchine

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    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Arrows are red
      Players are blue
      Now p1ss of giggsy
      We all blame you

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    2. Leelas legs 11
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      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      🙂

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    3. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Marchine?

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  9. Sticky Mockwell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Quiz question 2 – Who has scored the least points per game against teams in the bottom half of the league table?
    (taken from the 11 players who have scored over 150 points this season)

    1 = Ivanovic = 3.8 ppg
    2 = ? = 3.9 ppg

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    1. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Terry?

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    2. Mull
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Lukaku?

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      1. Sticky Mockwell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        You've got it. And I still captained him in GW34...

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        1. Lazarus
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Lukaku seems to be the answer to most quiz questions for some reason...

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    3. A.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Szczesny

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  10. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Ugly scenes coming from Old Trafford now..

    Rooney spotted

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      *chuckles*

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    2. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I heard Liverpool had a Waterslide at their end of year awards so they could push trophies down it.

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      1. brianutd-why always we? 20
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        They won't get hands anywhere near a trophy don't be silly!

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    3. HVT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      " a lesser spotted Rooney " methinks.

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    4. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      He's handsome

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      1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        To OAPs 😆

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      2. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        🙁

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        1. Chu Young Ping Pong
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          I'm talking about you!

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          1. r0nh
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            W

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  11. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    It wouldnt surprise me if Giggs slipped inside the box & thanked his brothers wife.

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    1. WorldCupDanB
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      At least whilst giggs was manager no information was getting leaked, rumor has it he loves to keep affairs within the family

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  12. Epic Fail
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Vidic cleverly disguising his traitor jumping ship move as a legend wanting to try something new.

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    1. jdoyle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      proper House of Cards stuff

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  13. Pablitto
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    What is your score from today?
    Mine is zero from 2

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    1. RabMac
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      0 from 3 😆

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      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Ditto if I include Chester of the subs' bench.

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    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      1 from 3

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    3. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      14 from 1(C)

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    4. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      16 from 2 😎

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    5. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      3 from 2
      Nemanja and Giggsy

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    6. Debauchy
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Same 0 from 2

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    7. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Zero from 4 🙂 3 of them 100% fit. amazing

      Inspired first post in 3months

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    8. jdoyle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      0 from 4... Mata, Evra, Rooney, Chester

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    9. The ginger cafu
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      0 from 4

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  14. Leelas legs 11
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Many of us have lost valuable points due to injuries.
    Lets say the big names remain injured...what are your contingency plans? How many hits, if any, would you be willing to take for the final week?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      40.

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    2. Namtab Nomolos
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I'm still too scared to look at next week's page

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    3. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Id probably go for 2 nice firm hits 🙂

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      1. Leelas legs 11
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Ha- you never let me down!

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    4. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      -4 hit and only for strikers

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    5. jdoyle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Probably 2

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  15. Reckoner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    I feel a strange sense of zen-like detachment about this all now.

    Literally so much has gone wrong in the last week, the last month, it doesn't matter. I've got nothing to play for in any of my leagues, and a late burst has got me to a vaguely respectable overall rank.

    Let the injuries and restings come, they can hurt me no more 🙂

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I was 500th.fallen to 1400th. Expecting it to get worse.

      Mata, Azipilicueta, Ramsey, aguero, rooney, Jones all done.

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      1. Reckoner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I narrowly avoided Jones, could easily have ended up with Azpi from earlier this season too.

        Still got Mata, Ramsey and Aguero, and that's after shipping Rooney for a hit. My end season super-punt Giroud will get rested for the cup final.

        If I had your rank I would be upset 🙂

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      2. jdoyle
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        670th fallen to 1200th. Painful stuff, who could have predicted things would go this badly.

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  16. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Chester 0
    Mata(C) 4
    Rooney 0 (Puncheon 2 coming on)
    Aguero injured
    Ramsey 0 (Ward 1 coming on)

    😆 at me

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    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Mata 2
      Aguero(c) 10
      Rooney and Rambo 0 (-8 to get him in)
      De Gea 4

      Up to Yaya and Zaba to save the day.

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    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Aguero(C) 10 (injured)
      Rooney 0 (Noone 0 coming on)
      Ramsey 0 (Chambers 0 coming on)
      Mata 2
      Azpi (0) (Chester 0 coming on)

      Just for good measure
      Demi (0)

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    3. Jax
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Pretty obvious Chester wouldnt do anything

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  17. Fray Bentos
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Worst DGW of all time?

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Nasri hatty and Hart two pen saves should rescue it 🙂

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      A DGW with the only extra game being Sunderland v Reading was better than this.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I liked that GW. I captained Michu for his brace vs Norwich and did Bale--->Sess for a hit

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      2. ★FC Borecelona★
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Sums it up really

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    3. Leelas legs 11
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Dismal, absolutely dismal- 37 so far (blushing whilst typing) Need some big points tomorrow and that ain't going to happen.

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  18. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    0 from 2 today..Small green?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      reply fail

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        😀

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    2. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Little green bag?

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  19. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    High five to those that took a hit to do Rooney to RVP 🙂

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    1. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I took a hit to do Rooney > Wickham, so far it's paid off by 1 point! Hopefully he bags a hattie tomorrow

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    2. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      😀

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      1. Jax
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Will be low scoring as both teams only need a point to survive

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    3. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      0/ Right back at you! Did Rooney and Baines > Alonso and RVP (C) -4 and am feeling over the moon

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    4. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      thats only a 4 pt gain in the end

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Its nice to be rewarded for correctly thinking Rooney would miss the games.

        Anyway, 4 points is almost as much as some people have scored this week!

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  20. HVT
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    How come no score check on here after the game ?
    This must be a first , they're right most only post when they're winning !

    41 - manny / Demi / Yaya / aguero lol.

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    1. Namtab Nomolos
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Same as mine was on Saturday.

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      55(-4) plus RVP baps, Mannone, Alonso, Nasri, Kolarov and captain muscle injuries

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    3. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      28 Manny Demi Gia Kun Wickham KOLAROV C

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    4. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      miserable. 44 (-8) with Yaya, Nasri, and Wickham left.

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    5. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      34 , yaya , AJ , Mannone (Kun , bardsley)

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      1. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        3 bench points 🙂

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    6. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      54 -12 Nasri Hart

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        + Amalfitano, keep forgetting him 🙂

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    7. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      44(-4) + RVP baps and MOlsson off the bench. Mannone and Yaya left.

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    8. HVT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Btw Chester / Dann off the bench with 0 points for me.

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    9. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      33

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    10. Declan
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      49 (-4) Mannone, Kompany, Yaya, Dzeko

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    11. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      After RVP's added BAPS I will be on 59 (-4) with Nasri, Alonso and Mannone

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    12. RabMac
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      61 with Nasri, Mannone & Yaya (c) still to play

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    13. Debauchy
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      53 - 8, Manny / Ya Ya / Nasri / Wicker / aguero lol.,

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  21. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    What % chance would you give of a YYT and Nasri blank tomorrow?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Very high as things are going

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    2. Namtab Nomolos
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Blank has taken on a new meaning this DGW. If a blank means 2-3 points I'd bite your hand off at this stage. Just give me SOMETHING.

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  22. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Mata & Rooney = 2 points

    I would take that every week

    😉

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  23. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    So Terry and and Lukaku to Evra and Rooney worked a treat. That change got me -2 points

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    1. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      my worst so far was Coleman > Cahill for a hit before the Sunderland game. 11 points vs -3 points. 😐

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I did Lallana and Eriksen (27) to Silva and AJ (12-4)

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Sounds like one of my transfers

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  24. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Well that is my input to UFPL finished for the season.

    Possibly ever.

    No more changes to make.

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  25. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    So we all have Yaya, do looks like I need a miracle from Zabaleta tomorrow (a miracle being not getting a yellow!)

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    1. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Me no Yaya

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Micah starts 😯 😉

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  26. elkunaguero
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    now, watch Aspas and Luis Alberto start for Pool on Sunday

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      In defence?

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        😆

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      2. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Better than GJ

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  27. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    I hope City get beat tomorrow

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Me too

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    2. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Just hoping a lot of people will be praying they get beat

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    3. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      else, my above post will happen

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    4. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      +1

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    5. Lazarus
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Hear hear!

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    6. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I don't, I want them to win.

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  28. Maddocio
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Surely this DGW can only be completed by YYT red card due to vinnie jones challenge at kick off

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  29. Michael Jordan - call me MJ
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Aguero + Mata -> Hazard + Sturridge 4 points

    Final GW of the season, ML's tied up, might as well go out with a gamble.

    Yay or Nay?

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