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The Promoted – Newcastle United

Having already assessed Brighton and Hove Albion, our analysis of the promoted sides continues with a look at Championship winners Newcastle United.

The bookmakers’ favourite for the top spot, the Magpies were eventually to fulfil that prophecy by just a single point, having battled with Brighton at the summit over the course of the season.

Rafa Benitez’s side snatched the crown by ending the campaign with three successive victories, while rivals Brighton faltered, suffering two defeats and a draw over the same spell.

Newcastle return to the Premier League at the first attempt, having suffered relegation with 37 points in 2015/16.

The Statistics

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Total46297108540459419
Home231535492326488
Away2314453617194611

CS – Clean sheets

With five defeats, St. James’ Park was far from a fortress, as Newcastle’s home record ranked fourth in the division.

Their 23 goals conceded – a goal a match – saw their defence place eighth from a modest tally of eight clean sheets.

But their attack was on hand to compensate, scoring 49 goals – a tally bettered only by Norwich City. Indeed, their 16.8 shots per game in home matches was second only to Fulham (17.1).

Newcastle were exemplary on their travels, winning 14 matches.

Away trips clearly favoured Benitez’s tactics, with his disciplined defence conceding just 17 goals – or 0.74 goals per match. Their 11 clean sheets on the road was two more than any other Championship side.

In addition, with 36 goals, only Fulham scored more away from home.

The Manager

Rafa Benitez undoubtedly has the experience and tactical know-how to re-establish the Magpies as a Premier League force.

Boasting twelve trophies, including a Champions League triumph with Liverpool in 2005, Benitez will relish the opportunity to lock horns with the likes of Pep Guardiola and renew his ongoing rivalry with Jose Mourinho once again. Having him back in the Premier League is a good thing.

Best known for his six-year spell at Anfield, Benitez joined Liverpool in 2004 having won two La Liga titles with Valencia, where he also reached two Champions League finals.

Aside from the classic 2005 European triumph over Milan, Benitez also took Liverpool to the final in 2007 and won the FA Cup in 2006. But he was unable to steer them to Premier League glory.

He departed Merseyside in 2010 to take the reins at Inter Milan, only to leave midway through his first season, before taking the role as interim manager of Chelsea in 2012, where he won the Europa League.

Benitez departed Stamford Bridge for Italy once more to become Napoli’s coach in 2013, winning both the Coppa Italia and Supercoppa Italiana.

He then moved back to Spain to coach Real Madrid in 2015. That turned into another short-lived tenure – he left in 2016 before arriving on Tyneside.

Brought in to replace Steve McClaren in January 2016, the task of steering Newcastle to Premier League safety proved too much, even for Benitez. However, the Spaniard remained with the club to mastermind an immediate return.

Regarded as a “master tactician”, Benitez is a meticulous manager who demands discipline and work rate from his players and sets his teams up to achieve a fine balance between attack and defence.

On taking over the reins on Tyneside, he emphasised the need for defensive organisation, and he will be expected to prioritise that side of Newcastle’s game on their return to the top flight. That could see them relying on pace on the counter attack, with some emphasis on exploiting set-pieces.

He is a firm advocate of the 4-2-3-1, a system that allows his sides to transition from defence into attack quickly and easily.

Benitez puts emphasis on possession and moving the ball quickly, favouring technicians and pace in attack. The full-backs will likely be relied upon to provide any width, and Benitez is set to favour mobility over a target man up front.

The Promoted Squad

While they lost prime assets over the summer of 2016, Benitez bought wisely, supplementing his squad in crucial areas with players, such as Dwight Gayle and Matt Ritchie, with proven Championship experience.

Having coined the phrase “Rafatation” – it was inevitable that his squad would endure rotation throughout the campaign. However, by the second half of the season, the shuffling had calmed somewhat.

Benitez appeared to rotate in areas where he felt he could deploy like-for-like replacements – changing personnel at right-back (Yedlin/Anita), in the defensive midfield position (Colback/Hayden) and in the number ten role (Diame/Perez). These seem set to remain hotspots next season.

The extent of Benitez’s tinkering will also rely on the success of his summer recruitment programme, although that already looks likely to be extensive.

However, we can hope that a pattern will emerge. Benitez uses rotation to manage conditioning, with those players who cover the most ground often the most vulnerable.

Karl Darlow (34 starts)
The 26-year-old goalkeeper established himself as Newcastle’s first choice after Rob Elliot suffered a career-threatening knee injury back in March 2016.

However, Darlow heads into the Premier League campaign uncertain on his future.

He lost his place to Elliot on his return from injury in April, and Benitez is now said to be chasing replacements in goal, with Darlow thought to be surplus to requirements.

Looking at Darlow’s numbers reveals just how well the Magpies defence performed during their title-winning season. He made a save every 41.9 minutes – a rate that compares with the likes of Spurs Hugo Lloris (38.5) and Manchester United’s David de Gea (40.9), indicating that based on Championship form, a Newcastle keeper may struggle to return significant save points.

However, it is very unlikely that the Magpies defence will offer such protection in the top flight.

DeAndre Yedlin (21 starts, 6 sub appearances, 1 goal, 5 assists)
The jet-heeled American is known to us from his loan spell at Sunderland while on Spurs’ books but, having sealed a £5 million move to Tyneside, it appears that Yedlin’s game has progressed.

A return of five assists from just 21 starts is eye-catching, with his underlying numbers backing this up. Yedlin produced a key pass every 61 minutes – that’s more frequent than any other defender from any of the three promoted sides.

Intriguingly, Yedlin also returned a successful tackle every 39.2 minutes – again, more frequently than any promoted defender – adding to the likelihood that he will challenge for bonus points when the Magpies shut out the opposition.

The major caveat is Yedlin’s defensive qualities, and he was also subject to rotation with Vurnon Anita. That could well continue next season, either with Anita or with a new arrival.

Vurnon Anita (24 starts, 3 sub appearances, 1 assist)
A versatile asset who can be deployed in a holding midfield role or at right-back, Anita offers little Fantasy appeal and, based on the latest paper talk, could be part of Benitez’s planned summer clear-out.

Paul Dummett (44 starts, 1 sub appearance)
The 25-year-old has thrived in the Championship as one of Newcastle’s most reliable performers. He could take that form into the top flight, although Benitez looks set to seek out more pace in the full-back position.

From a Fantasy perspective, Dummett’s appeal looks limited and will rely on a cheap price tag.

He seems unlikely to compete with the centre-backs for bonus points potential and, without Yedlin’s searing pace, he is nowhere near as effective going forward.

Jamal Lascelles (41 starts, 2 sub appearances, 3 goals, 1 assist)
Installed as skipper by Benitez, there is no doubt that the former Forest defender has a huge future in front of him and he could offer Fantasy managers an assured starter in the Magpies rearguard.

A dominant centre-back, Lascelles recorded a clearance, block or interception (CBI) every 8.4 minutes – strong but not quite enough to place him among the very elite of Premier League centre-backs and a figure that lags behind Brighton’s Lewis Dunk (7.7 minutes).

Lascelles went under the knife for surgery on a hernia immediately after sealing promotion, but is expected to return in time for pre-season.

Ciaran Clark (34 starts, 3 goals, 2 assists)
While Lascelles will doubtless be billed as the key man in the Magpies defence, Clark could emerge as the go-to option from a Fantasy perspective.

Sidelined for six weeks from mid-March with a knee injury, the 27-year-old still outperformed his skipper in terms of both minutes per CBI (7.62) and minutes per tackles won (82 vs 114). The same also applies to minutes per shot (131 vs 153), with Clark proving a key threat at set-plays.

Indeed, Clark’s minutes per CBI stat is the most impressive of any defender among the three promoted sides.

On that evidence, it’s the former Villa defender that should perhaps be a potential target. However, with new recruits on the way, it’s uncertain if Clark’s starting role will remain secure.

Chancel Mbemba (12 starts, 1 goal)
As one of the few stand-out performers in Newcastle’s relegation season, it was expected that the 22-year-old centre-back would be a key figure in their bid to achieve promotion.

He has the raw physical qualities of a talented defender, but Mbemba has since become a peripheral figure under Benitez, with the suggestion that the young DR Congo international has struggled to meet his manager’s demands.

However, Mbemba impressed on his return to the starting line-up late in the season during Clark’s absence through injury, and he could yet remain in Benitez’s plans.

Jack Colback (24 starts, 5 sub appearances, 1 assist)
The former Sunderland midfielder made the difficult transition to their rivals on Tyneside and has struggled to win over the Magpies faithful.

Colback is far from assured of a starting role next season and looks destined to provide back-up to Isaac Hayden. Even when starting, Colback offers little to Fantasy managers but the threat of yellow cards -he picked up 10 in his 24 starts last season.

Jonjo Shelvey (38 starts, 4 sub appearances, 5 goals, 8 assists)
A fiery and controversial figure, Shelvey remains a precocious talent who is vital to Benitez’s tactics and will likely be a key figure in Newcastle’s Premier League prospects.

Prompting from deep as the Magpies midfield architect, Shelvey’s vision and passing ability were peerless in the Championship but, on the flipside, he ended the season with 10 yellow cards and served a five-match absence through suspension.

With a shot every 36 minutes and key pass every 38, Shelvey’s numbers suggest he could be a Fantasy prospect although, as a disciplinary time bomb, it’s doubtful whether we will look to him over Matt Ritchie as a midfield option.

Isaac Hayden (28 starts, 5 sub appearances, 2 goals, 3 assists)
A shrewd signing from Arsenal, Hayden became established in Newcastle’s double pivot as a mobile midfield destroyer, complimenting Shelvey as the engineer of attacks from deep.

He is likely to be Benitez’s first choice in that role – barring any new recruits – but, from a Fantasy perspective, Hayden offers little potential for goals and assists.

Christian Atsu (15 starts, 17 sub appearances, 5 goals, 3 assists)
Benitez moved swiftly to take up the option of signing the Chelsea loanee,  for a reported fee of £6.2 million, as his first summer capture, underlining the fact that the manager clearly sees a key role for the 25-year-old.

The Ghanaian’s statistics – a shot every 43.6 minutes and a key pass every 54.1 – are encouraging, but not impressive enough to see him rank above Ritchie as a midfield prospect.

Yoan Gouffran (33 starts, 6 sub appearances, 5 goals, 3 assists)
The Frenchman, like Anita, is coming to the end of his contract at the club and, despite a successful Championship campaign, he is widely expected to be shipped out as Benitez performs a summer shake-up.

Should he remain on the books, Gouffran would surely be handed a reduced role back in the top flight and seems unlikely to be a factor in our seasons.

Matt Ritchie (40 starts, 2 sub appearances, 12 goals, 7 assists)
Benitez turned to Ritchie to provide Championship experience and a creative spark, swooping for the Bournemouth midfielder for a reported fee of £12 million. The Scot repaid that faith to play a key role in the promotion campaign.

The main man on set-pieces, including penalties, Ritchie was billed as a Fantasy prospect on his first promotion to the Premier League with the Cherries, but never really delivered.

That will make us wary again, although, with greater experience behind him and, in Dwight Gayle, a potent striker to feed, Ritchie will likely be installed as our prime target in the Newcastle midfield.

The statistics certainly promote his cause – Ritchie fired a shot on goal every 31 minutes last season – more frequently than any other promoted midfielder. Ten bookings are a concern, however.

Mo Diame (27 starts, 10 sub appearances, 3 goals, 3 assists)
The Senegal international looked an astute signing by Benitez, but never really lived up to his billing during the title-winning campaign, notching just three goals from a number 10 role behind a central striker.

Nonetheless, Diame has top-flight experience and, with his versatility, appears likely to be kept on for next term. Whether he can make the most of potentially limited opportunities is another matter.

Ayoze Perez (25 starts, 11 sub appearances, 9 goals, 6 assists)
The 23-year-old Spaniard can be outstanding at his best, but remains a frustratingly inconsistent talent.

Having tasted Premier League football in Newcastle’s relegation season, Perez should have the appetite for the return, although question marks remain over his physicality and his tendency to drift out of matches.

Likely to be deployed in a number 10 role when he does get his opportunities, if Benitez can extract regular magic from Perez he could be a crucial factor in their season – and even a Fantasy asset to consider if classified as a midfielder.

Dwight Gayle (26 starts, 6 sub appearances, 23 goals, 2 assists)
Crowned the PFA Fans’ Championship Player of the Season, Gayle is unquestionably the key target among the strikers on offer from the promoted sides.

His record of 23 goals from 26 starts, with a shot every 24 minutes, suggests that he could make the step up and establish himself as an effective Premier League marksman.

Gayle boasts experience of the top flight with Crystal Palace and scored goals for the Eagles without being trusted with a regular starting role.

It remains to be seen if Benitez puts his full faith in Gayle – certainly, his pace and trickery is well suited to the Spaniard’s style of play, but he may seek a more proven alternative.

That is one concern, as is Gayle’s alarming propensity to pick up injuries, having been cursed by hamstring problems last season.

Aleks Mitrovic (11 starts, 14 sub appearances, 4 goals, 6 assists)
The Serbian was a bitter disappointment on arrival at the club, having been the centre of a string of disciplinary issues on the pitch while failing to deliver the goals to help stave off relegation.

He’s been a back-up option under Benitez, with Gayle’s pace preferred in the lone striker role.

Nonetheless, Mitrovic is certainly a plan B option, with his strength and aggression ideal weapons to help break down a defence when Newcastle’s regular passing game falters.

But in Fantasy terms, the doubts over his temperament are likely to deter investment, even in the unlikely scenario that Mitrovic begins to earn regular pitch-time.

The Potential Targets

Newcastle are set for an exceptionally busy summer, with Benitez promised a war chest of up to £70 million to help him prepare for the return to the top-flight.

If reports are to believed, Benitez is seeking to strengthen in almost every position, with up to eight signings on the cards.

To this point, goalkeeper Pepe Reina has been the primary target, with reports first suggesting that personal terms have been agreed with the experienced and talented stopper. However, the player’s agent has since quashed such a suggestion, stating that Reina will stay to see out his contract with Napoli.

Reports are now suggesting that Benitez has switched his sights to Manchester City’s Willy Caballero, with the clear indication that a new recruit will be brought in to compete with Rob Elliot as first choice.

There are an array of reported targets elsewhere.

Man City’s forgotten centre-back Eliaquim Mangala is one such candidate, with Benitez thought to be keen to strengthen in this area and bring in greater experience. Former City defender Florian Lejeune is another centre-back target, with reports suggesting a deal is close.

Similarly, Newcastle are said to be close to finalising a deal for Portuguese U21 Ruben Semedo – another central defender.

Such signings could yet see Lascelles and Clark competing for one role.

Benitez was also said to be interested in former Watford full-back Miguel Layun, and even Arsenal’s Kieran Gibbs, as he bids to bring in options to compete with Dummett and Yedlin. Recent reports have also linked the club to Sporting Lisbon left-back Marvin Zeegelaar.

In attacking areas, the club are thought to be close to finalising a deal with Chelsea for the season-long loan of Tammy Abraham – a prodigious talent who scored 23 goals with Bristol City in the Championship last season.

Benitez will have presumably promised both Chelsea and Abraham regular pitch-time, so it remains to be seen how that changes the pecking order in attack.

It’s difficult to envisage that the 19-year-old would start ahead of Gayle but, should the transfer be concluded, it would obviously cast doubt over both players’ security of starts.

Elsewhere, Montpellier playmaker Ryad Boudebouz has been linked as a possible signing to compete for the number ten role. With 11 goals and 10 assists last season, Boudebouz has the versatility to be deployed out wide, although Newcastle are also said to be shopping for players in the flank positions.

That includes Crystal Palace’s Andros Townsend and Metz’s 19-year-old Ismaila Sarr – the Senegal winger has been billed as the next Sadio Mane.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

473 Comments Post a Comment
  1. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    West Brom only kept 6 clean sheets all season. Very un-Pulis.

    1. Matamatics
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      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      They were all too busy banging those corners in to defend!

    2. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Didn't stop Chris Brunt being a legend for a good amount of time 🙂

    3. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I will still consider them next season at the right price.

    4. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Don't I know it!! Sticking to Foster for most of the season cost me dearly.

  2. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Lascelles at 4.5 would be good. Quite fancy a bit of Ritchie as a 4th mid too.

    1. bojack
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Same on Ritchie.

  3. Buck The Trent
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Had Darlow and Dummett for DGWs last season 😎

    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      DD's ftw

      1. Matamatics
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Benitez as manager means they will be well drilled at the back as well - cheap 4.5 defender option definitely a good idea

    2. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Oh man that Darlow pen save v. Palace was amazing - I remember I was annoyed by my ML rival having Gomes who saved those 2 pens in one game, so that one plus the cleanie (think they won 1-0) clawed a lot back for me 😀

  4. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Cheers for the link WR..That must have been some good whisky you had Wildrover when you are only showing up now

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/15786037

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Missed the second half as expected. Woke up sat on the sofa in the middle of the night, still holding half a glass full, no spillage 😎

      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Pro 😀

  5. Matamatics
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    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

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    Our first fantasy football podcast is now available on sound cloud to listen to http://whogottheassist.com/posts/251 and we have a number of great blog posts up already particularly by individual who posts here regularly where he looks at the psychology and fantasy football metas!!

    Apologies for the shameless plug we are quite excited about this project for next year and hope you like our work. Of course if you have any feedback please let us know and also follow us on twitter http://www.twitter.com/whoassisted_fpl or Facebook http://www.facebook.com/whogottheassist

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Is it some kind of race between you and TFF ? 😉

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      You mentioned discussing the lineups ? . I think one of the major issues with FFS is the amount of speculation based on nothing . Costa , Aguero , Ibra etc have been declared doubts due to phantom injuries , Champions League rotation etc . Injury updates with reliable sources would be handy

      1. Matamatics
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        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Hi Adam,

        Thanks for the feedback
        We play lip service to this. It is an issue with all sources for line ups prior to game weeks,
        for all sources including newspapers like the guardian. Like game week 38 for example, everyone online was convinced that Hazard wouldn't be playing Sunderland but yet he did. Same with Danny Rose, people believed he was coming back and sold Ben Davies but it turned out not to be true. Unfortunately only a few key individuals within clubs know the truth in regards to line ups until the deadline and this is kept closely guarded for a reason - to not give the opposition too many clues.

        We aren't professing to be seers who can provide guaranteed line ups. As part of what we will be doing is discussing information based on reliable sources - Ben Dinnery for example on twitter is an injury expert and gives useful guidance prior to game weeks . Analysis of press conferences is also important because this is where you can attempt to gain access to a managers psyche but often these again can be over analysed e.g if Conte says he is not sure if Hazard is fit to play the next day, he may not actually be sure! A lot of the time line ups are very speculative and we will be looking to provide an alternative view point to others online.

    3. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Do give this a listen if you get a chance - we spent a long time recording and editing it yesterday... it's our first effort and we're pleased with it. Obviously not a patch on the scoutcast, though 😉

      Thanks for your time 😀

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I've got it bookmarked for the new season . I will need reminders now and again 🙂

        1. Individual
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Thanks 🙂 will do

        2. Matamatics
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          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Thanks! 🙂

      2. Parm
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Something like this is perfect to listen to while tinkering. Keep grinding!

        1. Individual
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Thanks Parm!

  6. GreenWindmill
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    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Good article - too much rotation and (hopefully) too many new signings to make it easy to pick many decent fantasy assets here.

    1. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah Rafa and Pep seem similar in their penchant for rotation don't they?

      Would worry about that. Matt Ritchie might be one, but I'd suspect we'd see a lot of unexpected no shows from their players next season!!!

      1. GreenWindmill
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        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah, Ritchie was very seldom rested last season but it did happen and he loves a yellow card. He's definitely the attacking option to watch as it stands though.

        1. Individual
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          I'd say so, he was one I think that did stick out as an odd decision to drop down a division; seemed to be alright at Bournemouth (but not pulling up any trees or anything).

          Choice between him v Knockaert maybe as the two 4th mids!

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            They're the two that will get attention for sure - guessing they'll both start at 6.5 so probably going to be the fixture list that dictates who is more popular to start with. Ritchie being on penalties (as it stands) is a nice bonus.

            1. Individual
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Oh yes. It really does depend on the fixture list. I've seen that the new Brighton signing (Gross) also fancies a set piece and could be quite cheap, so he could be another on the radar!

              Basically, all we're tryna do is find this year's Capoue...

              1. GreenWindmill
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                • 12 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                Well, Ritchie and Knockaert will be too much for a 5th mid so they're not Capoues - the dream is that they become Michus/Mahrezs (can't see it though!)

                Gross has some interesting creative stats but not a lot of tangible end product to show for it. If he's priced at 4.5/5.0 then he might be a sneaky pick.

  7. Je suis le chat
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    The pick and forget team of last season had no promoted players or punts in it (don't have link). Affordability issues might change that this season coming.

  8. Arteta
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Good read! Hopefully some of them will be cheap, nailed on and consequently in my team.

    Question for the community: do you think Newcastle will stay up or go down? 🙄

    1. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Certain they'll stay up. Plenty of poor sides. Think Brighton and Huddersfield will go straight back.

    2. Individual
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Hey Ozil!

      Yeah I can see Rafa keeping them up. Sounds like a fair bit hinges on them getting additional PL quality players though... But doesn't it for all of them!? So yeah, based on the manager's quality I can see it happening that they stay up comfortably

    3. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Stay up - a nice solid season with no drama please!

    4. Boris Bodega
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      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think they will go down.

    5. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think Rafa will keep it steady and they will stay up.

    6. Nomar
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      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      They should stay up.

      I suspect Rafa will change a lot of the starting lineup though.

      Gayle has never impressed previous Prem managers enough to make them start him with regularity so I find it hard to believe that he's suddenly going to be the main man now.

      Ritchie can tear up the Championship but, again, is he the man Benitez wants to rely on in the Prem? If Eddie Howe didn't want him doesn't that set some alarm bells jingling?

      Shelvey is way too inconsistent at this level for me to trust him.

      Basically, Newcastle had a team last season full of Prem misfits who were too good for the Championship but arguably not actually consistent enough to keep you up over a long Premier League season.

      The question, for me anyway, is have those players in themselves improved enough to banish those doubts? Or, are they going to fall into the same inconsistent ways of before?

    7. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'd expect them to stay up - Rafa gets most things right. They'll spend a bit too.

  9. andy85wsm
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    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Just watched some highlights from Carrick's testimonial.

    I know it was just a friendly but watching Scholes roll back the years and play some of those passes was brilliant. Vidic scoring from a corner with a bit of a bullet header.

    Could do with a few of that team back today.

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Get back to work 😉

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        If I wasn't bribing Optimus I would be worried about being banned for winding up Andy all the time .

        1. andy85wsm
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          • 13 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          You're so mean

          1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            😎

    2. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Park would walk into todays United team too. The most alarming thing was that Rooney didnt look out of place

      1. andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        He didn't really, but then again like I said originally - was a nothing match and he's supposed to be a current pro playing against legends

      2. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Judging by how awful he was for us I'd question that statement!

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Rooney? I think Lyon's point is that Rooney looked like a balding, retired, swollen has-been (i.e. he fit in with other retirees). He looked like Gordon Ramsey playing in a charity match.

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            (No offence to balding, retired or swollen people intended)

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              (But Gordon Ramsey can go F-Word himself)

          2. Nomar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            No, Park.

            Sorry for delay in replying but I was preparing tea and then sorting out our bath waste, which regularly gets clogged up with my wife and daughter's hair, which in turn backs up the water when you take a shower.

            Fine use of my day off (inset day for my daughter who is only 9 so can't be left on her own).

            1. Deulofail
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              Thanks for the detail!

    3. Matamatics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      What about Gary Nev's amazing volley?

  10. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    What were the lineups?

    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      @Andy

        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Cheers

        2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Reported for impersonating Andy

          1. Dreams
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Thank you.

        3. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          No Stevie G or Lampard. Who is Marcos Senna

          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Old Villareal DM. Scored a few worldie Fks in him time

          2. Dreams
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Some Villarreal midfielder. Never heard of him.

          3. Individual
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Ex Spain international too - mostly yeah a DMC

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEEW8w4Bp-I
            Did this once.

          4. Boydinho
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Starter when Spain won the Euros 2008

  11. JAC THE CAT
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Don't think I will go with any Newcastle from the off unless we get some absolute bargains.

  12. HVT
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    OMG flashbacks of Mitrovic in my team sends shivers down my spine!
    🙁

    1. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Mitrovic instead of Vardy 🙁

  13. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Yaya Sanogo has left Arsenal, if anyone cares.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      National holiday, and now this! Great day!

    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He waS a no go area anyway in Fpl terms

  14. jmcclory123
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Hazard to Pedro for a hit?

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Wait for presser

    2. Deeney-is-a-god
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not for a hit

  15. JÆKS ⭐
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    If fixtures aren't too hard, Pedro might be one the first names in my fpl team next season with this Hazard news!

    1. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Pedro will be straight into my team if the price is right.

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Willian for me

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Well, it's price dependent. Pedro may be good value, but Willian could be a steal.

    3. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      You're just adding technical debt to your team

  16. jmcclory123
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Wonder what price Dwight Gayle will come in at - 6.5m bracket I'd guess

    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Id say thats about right. He was benbched in the championship so im not keen on taking him from the off

    2. Tansey
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Sounds about right

  17. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Has anyone ever fallen asleep at work. Could be a first for me, need to get out and get some fresh air

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I got fired for sleeping in the office after a night of heavy drinking, then calling the boss from the work landline in the morning to say I wasn't going to make it in today...

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Also fallen asleep at my teacher's desk several times waiting on kids to turn up and convince me why they shouldn't fail, and things of that nature. But I was mostly being paid just to show my white face around school anyway.

  18. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Lingard to Liverpool rumour gathering pace, don't know if I'd want him and Ox

    1. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Lingard? I would not take him. Ox yes.

    2. Tansey
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      If Lingard signs I'm going supporting Everton

    3. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Be nice if FF had a separate category for wingbacks and defensive MIDs, giving them both 2 points for a clean sheet.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah I've argued this before too, though I would go a bit more "extreme" and advocate having no positions at all, except GK (and hence no limitations on how many players you can have in each position).

        The only limitation is price (since players with goal threat etc will be more expensive as usual).

        And then players (or cards with players' faces on) could be given stickers based on their defensive responsibility. Wingbacks and defensive mids have 1 sticker (2 points for CS), center backs have 2 stickers (4 points).

        It could even be a 3-tier system. Stickers could even be added or removed as the season progresses (not sure about this), but you keep the stickers you bought on your original card.

        Just an idea 🙂

        1. Jazz!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          The great thing about FPL is it's simplicity. 🙂

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            I agree to an extent. What I said only SOUNDS complicated though. In reality it's just having different players getting different points for CS, as we already have now. Also, if the system had no classification for positions (as I suggest), and someone was advocating having classifications for each position, people would still be saying "The great thing about FPL is it's simplicity". In fact, I'd say it's even simpler that way 🙂

            1. Je suis le chat
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              I wish there were no limits on positions. Be fun to play 11 goalkeepers.

              1. Deulofail
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                So you want 11 City GKs? Good way to safeguard against Pep rotation.

    4. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I haven't got a problem with the Reds signing Lingard ... for the right price; his style and profile seems to fit, but he isn't better than what we have so an okay acquisition in terms of strengthening the depth of squad.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        He would probably play less than he did at United. Not sure it's a good move for him. Though staying at United could be just as bad

    5. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      If the tabloids can do fake news then so can I

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        So you telling everyone that players were playing their parent clubs/cup tied was you trying to help ? 😉

  19. Ziro
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I wonder how many of us will carry out our "straight in my team" claims 😆

    1. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I don't know. But I'll definitely carry out my never in my team claims.

    2. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I will if they change the rules to allowing 11 City players!

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Backing Swansea City to do a Leicester this season?

    3. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'll guarantee 1 thing whoever is the cheapest in the game will be straight in my team

  20. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Just received an email from FFS about the benefits of renewing my membership. Mark spoon-feeding the casuals again.

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Fair play on admitting you are a casual 😉

    2. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      It's all about the green logo

      1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        / grey lol

    3. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Did he tell you who will get golden boot next season, too?

  21. Lovren an elevator
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Which of the promoted teams look best set up (tactically and personnel wise) to achieve a decent level of cleansheets this season?

    1. Tansey
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Out of the 3, Newcastle would probably get the most

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Rafa more likely to sign strong experienced defenders I guess. Is he renowned for cleansheets though? I can't remember that far back to his Liverpool days

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Spurs

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I may just double up on spurs to avoid the difficult decision. You're right.
        Maybe Trippier and Davies?

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Maybe indeed!

    3. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Newcastle. Rafa.

    4. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Huddersfield. They are tactically well set up to gift clean sheets to opponents.

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Amazing.
        Although...they do play wing-backs....

    5. Parm
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Brighton.

    6. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Newcastle

  22. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Membership renewal email!

    Just realised from that I finished with the exact same points as Mark 🙂 but I was higher with less Hits 😀

    1. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Mark has been the flavour of the season.

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      *fewer

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        *Pretentious Old Man

        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          🙂
          Pedantic - it's true.

  23. Deeney-is-a-god
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Haven't played this game for more than two seasons so I have a question for the veterans. What is the highest score for a player in a GW?

    Kane got 31 in GW 37 , that's the highest I have seen

    1. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I think you're right

    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Kane didn't get31 in a single gw

      The highest I can recall was Walcotts 26 pointer vs Newcastle

    3. Pap Le Cissier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Don't know the score but wasn't it Berbatov?

      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Nope, he scored 4 that day but he didnt match Walcotts score vs your lot 😉

        1. Pap Le Cissier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Selective memory occurs at my age 😉

      2. Deeney-is-a-god
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        When he scored five vs. Blackburn? Because other strikers have also scored five, like Aguero last season

      1. Pap Le Cissier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Wasn't that a dgw?

        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          It was, assumed that was allowed given that Kane in GW37 was the example given by the OP 🙂

          1. Pap Le Cissier
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah, I thought you were, I was testing my memory 😀

      2. Deeney-is-a-god
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Aguero 25, Wijnaldum 25, both last season, so still not best.

        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          That's not better than the 32 Rooney got 😕

          1. Deeney-is-a-god
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Haha, my mistake... I opened the picture and saw Fabregas and therefore thought it was only 24 points. But you are right, 32 is the highest I have seen

            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              I should have cropped it further!

              1. Deeney-is-a-god
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                I think it is fine as it is, that trio of points is something you don't see often 😉 I should have known to scroll

    4. Deeney-is-a-god
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Did some digging, and I lampard scored 4 and got an assist vs Aston Villa in 09/10. He is a midfielder so that should equal to 28 points

      1. Deeney-is-a-god
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        In a single GW

  24. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    #1 on my teamsheet: Jermaine Defoe.

    15 goals each of the last two seasons playing for THAT Sunderland team.....7.0/7.5ml bargain.

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Agree. Fixtures will have a say though

    2. Parm
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not in my basket.

    3. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Is he really guaranteed to start?

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        This

    4. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Nailed when the glass leg pair are fit again though?!

    5. Johqvist
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Depending on fixtures, he's probably in mine aswell. Great enabler and an easy switch to someone in the same price bracket if needed.

    6. Deeney-is-a-god
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He should really be priced at 8.0 or 8.5 though, and I think he will.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Wouldn't go near him for 8.5. Can't see him playing many 90 minute games, if he even starts week-in, week-out. At 8.0 he could be worth it once we know his likely minutes, and during a good run of fixtures, but still a stretch. I don't expect him to be priced that high. If he is, though, I doubt I'll have him at all next season, unless he secures his place in the XI + good fixtures + good team and personal form. I'd like to see him cheaper so more people are tempted by him, including me, because it's not like he's a safe bet.

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          The last think you want is for players to be overpriced, so they are out of the game, and our pool of options is diminished. Having said that, I hope Kane's price is astronomical next season.

    7. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I will consider him but more interested in Llorente.

    8. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Is he at Bournemouth now or was that just talk?

    9. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Third striker in a 3-4-3

  25. UshFPL
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Which premier keague players are playing in the confederations cup? Off the top of my head, Chile should be there after winning the Copa America so that's Sanchez. Cedric and Fonte of Portugal. Anyone else of note?

    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Portugal: Fonté, Cédric, Bernardo Silva.

      Chile: Bravo, Sánchez.

      Australia: B.Smith.

      Germany: Mustafi, Can.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_FIFA_Confederations_Cup_squads

      1. Dreams
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Feels so odd to see Bernardo Silva there. Hasn't sunk in yet.

      2. UnitedFan
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Sane pulled out of the Germany squad, right?

    2. Pirlø's Pen
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Know if there will be a fantasy game for this?

  26. Elwood
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Just got my 17/18 membership.

    It feels good.

    1. girthdevon
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Same here, and my new season resolution is to get a bit more involved with the chat. I say a bit more, previously non existant, so alot more..

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Good stuff 🙂

    3. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I will try and do it again this season.

      But last few years have been tight so couldn't justify spending a tenner on FFS membership which, in all honesty, for me is only really about the convenience of having access to the season ticker.

  27. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Multiple fatalities on Orlando Florida shootings. World's gone mad 🙁

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      *in

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Oh ffs, not again. How can you stop such a multi-headed beast...

  28. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Azpilcueta
    - Played every minute of the season, only two other defenders did this!
    - Most baps of any defender (22)
    - Highest bps of any defender, by some distance (872)
    - Joint second highest assists of any defender (5)
    - In a team with the joint most CSs (17)

    To me this is a very strong base for consistency. He doesn't rely on goals, which tend to be more sporadic per season.

    Even at 6.5, he could represent strong value. His 170pts would beat nearly every midfielder of the same price. Cahill's pts are heavily dependant on goals, which may not be repeated. Alonso may be a midfielder.

    What are your views on him?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Start building that template, I swear, by the time the season starts nearly everyone here will have the same team 🙂

    2. JAC THE CAT
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I was tempted to go with him a few times last season but stupidly resisted.

      He's one I'm considering for sure.

    3. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Had Alonso and didn't want to double up.

    4. Speédy
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Depends on the princing and the classification. Alonso classified as a defender would make azpi a differential. If both have same price, alonso clearly the better pick. If azpi is 0.5 cheaper, things might be different

    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He's in my team.

    6. Parm
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Sounds daft but I can't justify spending £6.5m on a defender in my first draft.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I'm usually the same Parm, but he would be superb value if at 6.5. It may be worth squeezing that little extra from elsewhere.

    7. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Should be 7m, and Alonso 7.5m. I don't expect as much from them next season as they were leaky for a finish plus CL next season.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah, they could crumble following a title-winning season... again! 🙂

  29. CloudSky
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Reports suggest, that Arsenals new signing Sead Kolašinac will net 7.5 mil per year.

    Mental if true.

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Bye bye Gibbs

    2. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      About 44k a week more than Ox, I think. They're spending their money on wages rather than signings. It would make sense if higher wages meant higher quality performances. Shame that's not true haha

  30. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Does anyone know if the assumption of universal basic emotion categories is compatible with hypotheses of linguistic relativity; namely Language as meddler/augmenter/spotlight/inducer.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Should be a ❓ in there somewhere...

      The answer is yes.

      1. Deulofail
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Not if there is a separate clause to finish the sentence that is not a question itself. Thanks for the answer. I will say in my presentation that someone knows, somewhere, and that I'm not the person to ask.

        ?

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Huh, I didn't know about that question mark rule. Grammar has never been a strong point of mine. I like numbers 😆

          1. Deulofail
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            It's like saying, "Where are you going, if you don't mind me asking." The question is finished before the tag statement/question. A question mark at the end would signal that "if you don't mind me asking?" is a question in itself, as well as the previous question about where you're going. Anyway, it's not important. The only numbers I need right now are page numbers, but I'll get back to you if I encounter statistics!