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Can Fabianski retain FPL value at West Ham?

Lukasz Fabianski has joined West Ham after being relegated with Swansea City – and he is expected to retain his value as a Fantasy Premier League asset next season.

The Polish goalkeeper has been a renowned producer of saves for several years, making him a good signing for Manuel Pellegrini at the London Stadium.

We’ve had a look at the underlying statistics behind Fabianski’s success in 2017/18, as well as the shortcomings at West Ham, to weigh up whether he should be on our radar for Gameweek 1.

THE HISTORY

Last season was the latest in a long line of campaigns where Fabianski used his huge save-count and a handful of clean sheets to claw his way up the FPL charts. In the end only David De Gea (172) and Ederson (158) accrued more points than Fabianski. His score of 157 was his best ever recorded in four years at Swansea.

That extended spell was characterised by his ability to stack up large numbers of saves. In fact, in every single campaign in south Wales Fabianski finished in the top three for that statistic:

  • 2014/15: 140 (ranked 1st)
  • 2015/16: 117 (ranked 2nd)
  • 2016/17: 118 (ranked 3rd)
  • 2017/18: 142 (ranked 2nd)

Breaking his most recent year down into more detail, Fabianski’s importance to Swansea becomes even more clear. While Jack Butland recorded eight more saves overall at Stoke, the Swans’ shot stopper made more than anyone else when facing shots in the box (93). Furthermore, of the 142 saves made, 30 of those were caught and held. No goalkeeper did so more often than Fabianski.

His save percentage of 72.1 was the fifth best in the division while only David De Gea (+11.70) and Nick Pope (+9.30) boasted better xG Prevented (+4.10). Success in those departments led to him picking up 34 additional points for saves in 2017/18, accounting for 21.65% of his 157 points. 15 more points were picked up from the stopping of three penalties, again more than anyone else.

The importance of saves to Fabianski’s success is best demonstrated by the fact that his clean sheet potential doesn’t always match what is expected of high-performing goalkeepers. The average number of shut-outs recorded by the top-six FPL shot-stoppers in 2017/18 was 12.33 while Fabianski sat below that with nine. Nobody else in the top six registered fewer. However, it was still more than enough to supplement his strength in other areas.

As for bonus points, again Fabianski never dominates but is a solid performer. He was top for Baseline Bonus Points System with a score of 672 (50 more than Butland) this season, and only England internationals Jordan Pickford and Nick Pope made more recoveries (403 and 387) than the former Arsenal man (368). But such numbers didn’t always convert into points proper. Four goalkeepers finished the campaign with more bonus points than Fabianski, his score of 14 good enough only for fifth place.

Obviously the statistics recorded by goalkeepers are influenced by the team they are playing in, and Swansea was the perfect club to get the best out of Fabianski from a Fantasy perspective. In 2017/18 they ranked 19th for shots on target conceded with 190 and were 18th for expected goals conceded too (59), giving him plenty to do. So do West Ham offer the same type of potential for saves and clean sheets?

THE PROSPECTS

The short answer to this question is “overwhelmingly yes.” In fact, the underlying statistics of West Ham’s defence could even suggest that Fabianski may prove to be a better Fantasy asset than he was at Swansea next season.

That’s because the Hammers ranked lower than Swansea both for total shots allowed and goals conceded in 2017/18. Only Burnley (570) and Stoke City (579) obliged their opponents more times than West Ham (563), while their shots on target conceded count (187) was similar to Swansea’s 190. Crucially, the London side’s expected goals conceded figure was just 56.10, and yet they were still breached on 68 occasions, just under 12 more times than they should have been. While that could lead to Fabianski keeping clean sheets less often, the data recorded at Swansea last season do suggest he will improve them as a side.

The change of manager at West Ham may, of course, have an impact on how vulnerable they are the back, of course. It remains to be seen whether or not new centre-back Issa Diop will make a difference too. We may find in the early weeks of 2018/19 that the Hammers allow considerably fewer shots on goal than they did previously.

If that’s the case then, of course, Fabianski’s price will play a part in whether or not we should be considering him for our sides. His value in recent years has stemmed from a £4.5m starting price and if he begins the new campaign in the same bracket then he will be more a attractive proposition than if he experiences a hike to £5.0m.

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  1. Jernau M Gurgeh
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    no

    1. Fantastisk
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      This

  2. OldBenKenobi
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Wow! Just wow

  3. el polako
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    They really not helping poor Diego to stay clean, arent they ?

  4. diesel001
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    This defensive performance by Argentina is disgraceful. Are they that arrogant that they think defending is only for defenders? Need some humility IMO. Remind me of England at some points between 2006 and 2012. If you don't concede you can't lose. Surely that is a basic starting point.

    1. OldBenKenobi
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Caballero has lost them this game. If that first goal doesn’t go in it’s a different game imo

    2. Eden Wizard
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      This is what happens when 3 at the back goes wrong

  5. Jay_
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Adios Argies 😀

    • Fred54
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Timing of this article as bad as the Argentinian defence...

    • Fantastisk
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Messi goes missing yet again. Fraudulent behaviour for the national team.

    • UshFPL
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I'm still considering Messi for next week on WC. Argentina need to score a few and Nigeria are poor. Thoughts?

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Are you insane? Are you blind?

        1. OldBenKenobi
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Lol! They needed to score in this game that it didn’t happen. I’m with Kolarov on this one!

      2. Konig Luther
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        yeah... Argentina really looks like they will score a few, particularly Messi

    • Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Bringing in kimmich and layun for messi and cueva...
      And maybe inui for isco later

      1. squ1rrel
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        how do you brin gin a defender and a midfielder for a forward and a midfielder???

        1. squ1rrel
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          *bring in

    • Karan14
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Stick or twist Eriksen (7)?

      Danilo ➡️ Kaku ➡️ James

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Twist, you got good backup.

      2. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Same answer I gave last time.

    • Jolly Good
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I know this must have been discussed a thousand times. But how can a player who looks so good playing for Barcelona look that poor playing for Argentina

      1. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Barcelona as a team is way superior to Argentina.

      2. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        The whole Argentina squad plays in different leagues. They're used to a different style of football all year. Don't expect them to perform all of a sudden. However, things could've been much better if the team had someone like Simeone managing.

        1. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          It’s never helped England having a team full of domestic based players

          1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            It could well be that having all of them play domestic has actually always been helpful for England and they've just been woeful for other reasons. Not useful comparing it to this situation, although we're all blowing hot air out our arses a bit after a game like that

            1. HamezMace
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              All the big nations have players dotted around the world.
              Only teams like Saudi Arabia have entirely domestic only players.

              1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 10 months ago

                Fair point

      3. Jolly Good
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Portugal is way poorer, yet Ronaldo almost always turns up for them

        1. Chandler Bing
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          I can't get over the fact that people call Portugal "way poorer" than Argentina? How exactly?

          They have a better defense. Better midfield. Say Messi and Ronaldo cancel each other out. Only the striker spot beats Portugal's and no strikers in the Argentina team ever turn up.

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Agreed.
            Portugal team has less big name attackers, but overall much better balance

          2. Jolly Good
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Hard to argue which player is better in each position, but bookies had Argentina way lower odds to win the World Cup than Portugal before it began ... probably best indication of a better team overall

            1. Chandler Bing
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              The media just keeps hyping Argentina because of the big forwards. I still think a change in manager could turn things around for the team for the Copa America.

      4. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Because Barcelona are a 'team' and Messi is the 'man'. The reality is the guy at Barcelona who didn't like that Messi was the main man left (Neymar). With Argentina I don't see Higuain and Aguero pulling for Messi. No defensive midfielder who wants to win the ball back and say give it to Messi as he is the man. The difference between Portugal and Argentina is startling. Portugal do everything they can to help Ronaldo whereas you don't see it with Argentina and Messi.

    • Godfather Bandit 42
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      One of my rivals twisted from Ron to Messi.
      I'm not loling though....

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Interesting.

      2. elcapitan1
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        it's fair enough though, ronnie only scored 1 goal. Plenty of games left to have a punt on captains

    • Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      ITS COMING HOME

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Germany?

        1. the snazzy viking
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          yeah their players are coming home

    • diesel001
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Fabregas comes across as a nice guy on TV. Doesn't appear to be any bitterness that he isn't in the Spain squad - still wants them to win.

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        That's because he's on TV.

        1. Spike ⚽️
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          LOL

    • Niemi
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Somehow Argentina still got a realistic chance to make the round of 16.

      If Nigeria win tomorrow, a win for Argentina against Nigeria is enough.

      If Nigeria and Iceland draw, a win for Argentina against Nigeria is enough as long as Iceland don't beat Croatia.

      Still possible if Iceland win tomorrow, but less realistic.

      1. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Goal difference? Who'll consider that. They're down by 3.

      2. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I agree and said the same thing on the last article.
        A draw tomorrow is highly likely, as is Argentina beating Nigeria...then Iceland would need to beat Croatia

      3. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        It doesn't matter. They will go out the next one.

      4. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        In all likelihood if went through will play France in last 16 who not really looking that good either.

      5. Nailed Jesus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Surely Argentina beating Nigeria isn't that realistic!

    • JLAEST
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Twist Eriksen? Got Coutinho > Lukaku > Mojica. Inclined to stick...

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Stick if that's what you are inclined to do.

      2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        First thing tomorrow, I'm gonna make t-shirt; stick or twist?

        1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          This is supposed to be the new post.

    • Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Can any of you change Captain right now?
      I can´t it seems

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        No not yet.

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Cheers.

      2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Usually it updates around midnight.

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Thanks.

          1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            No problem.

    • Holding Matip
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Imagine Messi scores 4 to shut everyone up and carry Argentina through

      1. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Fingers crossed. He's done it before.

      2. The Orienteer - find me in …
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Oh dear!

    • The Tinkerman
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      When are you using your WC?

      Tempted to WC this week, my team was set up for rounds 1&2, plus it seems a good time to get on players before rises.

      I initially planned to go after the R16 since you have the highest probability of losing players, and only 3 transfers to fix it.

      1. squ1rrel
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Do it after R16. I WCed last week and I regret it :/

      2. JLAEST
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Quarter finals. Only 3 transfers there. If you get your R16 bets wrong, you may compromise your entire game. On the other end, now worst case you lose a couple points.

    • Rainer
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      If promoted keepers, like Rui Patricio, should be 4.5m. Then relegated keepers, like Fabianski, should be 4m.

      Thanks, FPL 🙂

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Ever the optimist

      2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Rui will be 5mil imo

      3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I think both will be 5m

    • SOTHPAW
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I currently have Eriksen as my captain, should i stick on 14 points or switch to captain Coutinho tomorrow? I have Lukaku waiting in last chance saloon.

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        What is your gut telling you?

      2. barracuda
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Same trouble

      3. JLAEST
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Exactly the same. I'm inclined to stick as getting more would require:
        a) Coutinho doing a goal + assist/goal: unlikely with Keylor in goal and Neymar wanting to show he's in form
        b) Lukaku brace: unlikely after a first brace and Tunisia didn't look so bad
        b) Mojica doing clean sheet + assist: i'd be extremely happy with just one of these but i doubt I'll get any

    • Kolarov Fpl Legend
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Last round games, front 3 are Costa, Ronaldo, Kane.
      Would you sell anyone for someone else?

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        No. I’m tempted to WC and I’d be getting in Ronaldo and Costa probably.

        1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          So Kane out?

          1. The Tinkerman
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Why? Only if you have absolutely nothing else to fix. It’s the third round, plenty of players from teams already qualified (or nothing to play for) will be rested.

            1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
              • 9 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              Because you said you would bring in the other two.

      2. JLAEST
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I would sell Kane for someone else. Maybe Lewa vs. Japan.

        1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Tnx

    • Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Biggest shock of the World Cup by far tonight with Argentina losing 3-0 to Croatia and we get a post about Fabianski and West Ham....

      One extreme to the other.

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        For me it's;
        Iran scored the same amount of goals as Argentina.

        1. Holding Matip
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Well technically Iran scored 0, Argentina scores 1

      2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        The timing is bad but tbf it's a good article

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Aye.

      3. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Still think Mexico Germany was a bigger one. The Argentina squad is shambles and SAMPAOLI being their manager doesn't do them any better. But with Germany, we expected them to batter Mexico and Mexico came off a 2-0 loss against Denmark only days before the Germany game.

        1. barracuda
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          What could he done better? He wasn't playing...

          1. Chandler Bing
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Well, for first, have a clue who needs to start and what kind of tactics the team needs to use. The team clearly doesn't know how to exploit their best players.

            1. barracuda
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              Plenty black holes in that side.

              1. Chandler Bing
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 10 months ago

                Yeah, agreed on that part. However, I still feel the manager plays a big part here. Not calling Rulli to stand between the sticks in the first place ruined the team's core. Secondly, starting with a different formation and changing 3-4 players each game is not what you do in a World Cup. He's been the manager for a while, his lineup should be well sorted by now.

                1. barracuda
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 10 months ago

                  I get your points but they shouldn't lose 3:0 to Croatia . He is an offensive coach, perhaps started with very pragmatic approach with 4:4:2 after seeing some bigger teams crumble already. I think a good coach needs to be able to adapt or change the system when he needs to. He did that today but the holes played like holes. He did well in Sevilla and yes, his goalie choice is on him. Willy has many cons.

      4. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        It's a bit like when they start the Scoutcast in the 85th minute of a big Champion's League tie because obviously we all that desperate to watch them instead.

        1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          You will always have an upvote from me.

        2. Make Arrows Green Again
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          People watch it live? Why?

      5. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Do the comments ever have anything to do with the article though?

      6. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I wasn't a shock

        Form pointed to a Croatia victory

    • Paramaribo
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Would you stick to Eriksen as a captain if you have Coutinho, Lukaku, James Rodriguez for the next 3 gamedays?

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        No. Would you?

      2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Are you serious?

    • Holding Matip
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I asked people whether to captain Erik or Messi - 6/7 people said Messi

      Apparently this is a football experts site?

      1. Longlatini
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Don’t know what gave you that idea

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          This.

        2. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          😀

      2. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Good thing you didn't pay for it.

      3. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Apparently, you can't predict the future and upsets are meant to happen?

        Besides, why spend 12M on Messi in the first place if you won't even captain him?

        1. Holding Matip
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          That was the point I was trying to make - we can do endless research but surprises/upsets happen

      4. barracuda
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Don't blame others.

      5. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        There are only a few of us who are experts but we tend not to answer questions as the din and volume of stupidity tends to drown us out

      6. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Ha, where does it say it’s a football experts site?

      7. Holding Matip
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Well that light-hearted joke wasn't taken well...

        1. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          If you’re new here let me explain,

          We get constant posts from people asking for our help/advice, which we give them based of are knowledge of statistics, and watching lots of games, but if it doesn’t work out they follow it up with...

          ‘Ugh you guys are all idiots, knew I should have stuck to my instict and captained player X, instead of listening to you’

      8. the axolotl
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        says the guy with arsenal's worst defender in his username 😯

      9. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Expert site?

        Have you seen the posts? People STILL asking how the captaincy works

      10. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Absolute clown post

    • The Tinkerman
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Do we know if the price rises of players we already own in WC fantasy will add to our budget?

      Or is it just blanket 105m budget, and there is no advantage to owning the risers in advance?

      1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Logical thing would be to add up + 5.0 mil.

      2. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Discussed this earlier and no seems to know.
        It was suggested that owning rises wouldn’t matter and we’ll all be starting from stratch again

    • noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Why does everyone love Iceland?

      They play brutal contain type defensive football and are loved for it, yet when any other team does the same they get slated?

      1. the axolotl
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        because they're plucky underdogs. does it really need saying?

      2. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        The same reason why Burnley is loved and Mourinho's teams aren't.

      3. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Small nation who are complete underdogs

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          This. with a population that small it´s a massive achievement to get the results they do Since Lagerbäck organized them

      4. Godfather Bandit 42
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        The Viking Clap! \0/

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Does it itch?

          1. Godfather Bandit 42
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Sometimes but I just put Ice on it.

            1. Red Dagger ✪
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              Arctic Chard works for me.

      5. Kolarov Fpl Legend
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        They are handsome.

        1. Red Dagger ✪
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          I second this.

      6. Totalfootball
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Because they are minnows and not expected to win and
        also because they have a cool celebration

      7. noquarternt
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Why are they still plucky underdogs? They've got plenty of top level/prem players and have a pretty good record in recent years.

        The population thing is meaningless as they're a rich developed nation that focuses on football.

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          It really isn't meaningless at all. 300 000 is not a large pool to draw talent from. It's smaller than 7 or 8 English Cities at least.

        2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Also, they've got 2 or 3 "top-level players". The rest are medium to part time.

        3. the axolotl
          • 12 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          you're maybe just trolling here, but, with respect, that's just nonsense. smallest country population ever to qualify. it's astounding how well they've done to get here and i for one would absolutely love it, love it, if they got out of the group

          1. noquarternt
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            The population is tiny and they've done very well. But when Uruguay, a country with 3 million people, beat Saudi Arabia- people on here we're going berserk. 3 mill is a lot more than 300k, but the viritol was incredible. 'Disgusting', 'disgraceful' etc.

            Maybe just the Cavani cappers, but think Iceland are here on merit and hardly huge underdogs anymore.

            1. the axolotl
              • 12 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              for pity sake, it's their first world cup, it's probably the biggest thing ever to happen to their country. it's absolutely immense. you'd need to be blind not to see it, and heartless not to feel a little bit of joy in it

            2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 10 months ago

              Well, yes, they're here on the merit of their system which they have exploited perfectly to other teams' detriment. Vitriol on here is not really indicative of how poor a team is anyway... Uruguay had a great defensive performance, but got slated anyway (tbf they deserved it a bit for not going for the kill but mostly its just angry Cavani cappers, myself included)

        4. Hamstergod
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Isn't handball the main sport there?

      8. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Sara Sigmundson

        1. Midlands Saint73
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Do you mean Sara Sigmundsdottir?

          1. HamezMace
            • 9 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            I do.
            Is Dottir the correct Icelandic for ‘sson’

      9. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Because they barely have a larger population than Leicester

      10. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I don't . Bag of defensive anti football shite.

        Hope the Argies go through just for that man Diego

      11. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Cool name!

      12. Hamstergod
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I think they sum it up here

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmqChopExKk

        Personally been following them since 1998 , it's a mix of the underdog thing and the positive attitude towards it

      13. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Beautiful wild country, spent a week there. They must be a seriously hardy race, nation of 300k souls.

      14. Alex_thekid
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Because they do excellent luxury Deluxe ready meals delivered for free
        #Thepoweoffrozen

    • Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      What the hell
      Danilo injured ? 😐

      1. barracuda
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Sure thing?

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Yes fagner will start 😐

      2. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Source? Not seeing anything about it

      3. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Post a source then?

        1. Emiliano Sala
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Brazil federation

          1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 10 months ago

            Can't see anything . Can you post a link

    • jimmy.floyd
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Penalty takers for Germany and Spain?

      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Not me

        You need to be German, Turkish, Spanish or Brazilian

        1. Kolarov Fpl Legend
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          You forgot Polish.

      2. barracuda
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Mueller and D. Silva/Ramos

      3. HamezMace
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Muller or Ozil
        Silva or Ramos

    • CloudSky
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      BREAKING NEWS:

      Corinthians right back #Fagner will start ahead of #Danilo vs Costa Rica tomorrow, as the latter has picked up an injury.

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Good

      2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        No thanks

      3. Vlad Tepes
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        It is funny to post stuff without source.

        1. CloudSky
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Globo, Marcus Alves, @brazilstat, City Watch. Everything is one click away.