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Is it worth paying extra for Wilson over King in FPL?

Callum Wilson (£8.0m) has been handed a significant price rise in Fantasy Premier League ahead of 2019/20 and is now the second-most-expensive FPL forward who doesn’t represent a ‘big six’ club.

The price hike was inevitable after his fine 2018/19 in which he banked 26 attacking returns, more than in his previous three seasons combined.

Wilson’s points-per-match average of 5.6 was beaten by only three other FPL forwards (the £11.0m+ trio) and better than any of his Bournemouth teammates.

While Wilson has been handed a £2.0m price rise, Joshua King (£6.5m) costs exactly what he did 12 months ago.

There’ll be many Fantasy managers, then, who will be seriously considering the cheaper King as their Bournemouth coverage from Gameweek 1 onwards.

Investment in the Cherries’ FPL assets certainly looks appealing from the off, as they face all three promoted clubs and only one of last season’s top four in the opening ten Gameweeks – although matches against Everton and Leicester may prove tricky.

With that in mind, we will run a comparison of the two Bournemouth forwards in this article.

This piece would usually only be available to Members but we are temporarily unlocking it to give non-subscribers an idea of the type of analysis we produce behind the paywall.

The ‘King v Wilson’ idea was proposed by The FPL Physio, FPLFoxy and Man Getting Hit By Football on Twitter and on our site.

2018/19 FPL Data

Overall

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson29 starts, 1 sub app14125.66/30 (20%)15/30 (50%)
King34 starts, 1 sub app1234.04/35 (11.4%)25/35 (71.4%)

Wilson was, quite simply, a more reliable option than King last season.

Wilson has a reputation for streakiness (six blanks and three double-digit hauls in the last nine Gameweeks an example of that) but banked more returns of ten or more points and blanked on fewer occasions, too.

King’s points-per-match average was some way short of Wilson’s, meanwhile.

Home

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson15 starts564.81/15 (6.7%)7/15 (46.7%)
King18 starts935.33/18 (16.7%)10/18 (55.6%)

Interestingly, King was more than a match for Wilson at the Vitality Stadium.

The Norway international averaged more points per match than his strike partner and racked up more double-digit hauls.

The difference essentially came down to penalties: four of the five spot-kicks that King scored last season were in home games.

Again, though, Wilson was more consistent, returning in a higher percentage of his home fixtures.

Away

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson14 starts, 1 sub app966.45/15 (33.3%)8/15 (53.3%)
King16 starts, 1 sub app302.71/17 (5.9%)15/17 (88.2%)

There was no contest between the pair on the road, with King blanking in all but two of his 17 appearances.

Wilson was a rarity among Premier League players in that he was more productive on his travels than on his own patch.

2018/19 broke the trend of recent seasons: King had actually scored more goals away than at home in his previous two campaigns, while the opposite was true of Wilson.

v Non-‘Big Six’ Sides

PlayerAppsGoalsAssistsPoints per matchDouble-digit haulsBlanks
Wilson22 starts, 1 sub app12126.4
6/23 (26.1%)10/23 (43.5%)
King24 starts924.33/24 (12.5%)16/24 (66.7%)

Given that Bournemouth play only one of the ‘big six’ in the first seven Gameweeks, it may pay dividends to analyse their strikers’ form against the also-rans of the Premier League in 2018/19.

Wilson again comes out on top: all bar two of his 26 attacking returns were against sides ranked seventh or below.

The England international registered more double-digit hauls and fewer blanks than King against these opponents.

Wilson v King: Heatmaps

Touch heatmaps for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19

The heatmaps above underline what we know already about the Bournemouth strike pair in that Wilson tends to be the more advanced of the two (see the average position charts in any number of the Cherries’ games last season).

While Wilson remains fairly central, King has a tendency to drift wide – note the mass of red down each flank and the left in particular.

Wilson v King: Goal Threat

Underlying goal threat statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

While Wilson has a definite edge, there isn’t a great deal to separate the pair in terms of goal threat.

Their rate of shots is pretty similar, although the better quality of Wilson’s chances (shots in the box, big chances etc) is notable.

Wilson had 15 shots from inside the six-yard box last season (only two players had more), while King had seven.

As we have discussed, Wilson and King were well matched at home in terms of FPL returns.

Wilson was head and shoulders above his strike partner for goals on the road but, looking at the underlying stats only in away matches, King fares well:

Underlying goal threat statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19 away matches. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

King actually averaged more penalty box touches, shots on goal and efforts from inside the opposition area on the road last season, although Wilson again had a significant advantage when it came to ‘big chances’.

Only five players had more shots from inside the six-yard box than King (five) on the road, one of whom was Wilson (ten).

Wilson v King: Creativity

Underlying distribution statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

Again, there was little to separate the pair when it comes to creativity.

Their minutes-per-chance created averages were similar, with Wilson having a slight edge when it came to big chances created.

Isolating only away games, King bettered Wilson for almost every underlying distribution statistic apart from the one that matters, of course: actual assists:

Underlying distribution statistics for Callum Wilson (left) and Josh King (right) in 2018/19 away matches. Most figures given are averages per appearance.

Wilson v King: Expected Goal Data

Home Matches
Expected goal involvement data for Callum Wilson and Josh King in 2018/19 home matches.

King’s better FPL record at home last season is played out in his expected goal involvement data above, with both Bournemouth strikers slightly exceeding expectation (xGI deltas of +2.00 and+1.37).

Away Matches
Expected goal involvement data for Callum Wilson and Josh King in 2018/19 away matches.

This is the really interesting one.

Wilson’s xGI on the road was indeed higher than King’s but only by a similar margin that the Norwegian had at the Vitality.

What’s notable is their respective xGI deltas: only Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m) ‘overachieved’ more than Wilson (+5.34) in away games last season, while not a single Premier League player underperformed to the same extent as King (-3.39).

That would suggest the gap between their respective FPL returns on their travels (Wilson 15, King three) ought to have been closer.

Wilson’s record with Fraser

Half of Callum Wilson’s goals were set up by Ryan Fraser in 2018/19.

Wilson and Ryan Fraser (£7.5m) made Premier League history last season.

The pair combined for 12 goals in total, with Fraser assisting Wilson on seven occasions and Wilson returning the favour five times.

No other two players have combined for as many goals in a 38-match Premier League season.

Not one of King’s goals was assisted by Fraser.

It would stand to reason that King wouldn’t benefit from the Scotland international’s creativity as much, given that the Norwegian has a tendency to drift over to the same side of the pitch that the left-winger operates from (see the heatmaps).

Fraser’s crosses and passes, then, will generally be of greater benefit to the striker who is more prominent in the centre of the box, i.e. Wilson.

Being supplied by a player who created a staggering 28 big chances last season (nine more than any other Fantasy asset) and fired over more crosses (271) than any other midfielder is obviously an advantage that Wilson has.

Final Thoughts

Joshua King is Bournemouth’s first-choice penalty taker as the Premier League gets ready to roll out VAR for the first time.

A price rise was justified for Wilson after his exploits in 2018/19 but the data suggests he and King aren’t too mismatched in terms of overall attacking potential.

Wilson being the more advanced of the two means he will likely continue to get more ‘big chances’, while his telepathic partnership with Fraser is also a boon.

The fact that he blanked on fewer occasions than King and delivered more double-digit hauls is significant, too.

If the pair were to repeat their points-per-match averages of last season at the prices they are now, Wilson would still win out on the value-for-money metric (points per match divided by price):

PlayerPricePoints Per Match (PPM)PPM/Price
Wilson£8.0m5.60.70
King£6.5m4.00.62

King’s misfortune in having the worst xGI delta of all Premier League players in away games is worth noting, though, and a player of his quality surely won’t ‘underachieve’ to the same extent again.

The Norwegian is also (presumably still) the first choice for penalties at Bournemouth, which could partially compensate for Wilson’s superior threat from open play.

It’s right that Wilson now costs more in FPL but £1.5m is quite the difference this season when we Fantasy managers have to make savings to accommodate the premium options elsewhere.

For those looking at a 5-4-1/4-5-1 with a cheap-ish striker up front, then King certainly fits the bill.

It isn’t just King and Wilson who could ‘cover’ the Bournemouth attack in their opening fixtures, of course.

Fraser delivered more points than either of these two options last season and is available for half a million cheaper than Wilson.

We’ll have more on the Scottish winger over the summer, starting with a Numbers Game piece on Bournemouth next week.

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1,089 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 10 Years
    7 months, 27 days ago

    Is Chicarito an option now with arnautovic gone?
    Will he be top dog or superseded by a new signing?
    He is very tempting great value at 6m

    1. jayzico
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 27 days ago

      He's history

    2. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      7 months, 27 days ago

      Your first question is answered by the second which currently has no answer!

    3. pumpkinhead
      • 5 Years
      7 months, 27 days ago

      Not a straight swap but considering Anderson now that Arnie is gone.

    4. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 months, 27 days ago

      Obviously depends if they sign someone who will play.

  2. Dr. Rog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 months, 27 days ago

    The spine of the template team has formed:
    Fill in the blanks (differentials) to your choosing - most of y'all be wildcarding in September anyway

    { } - 4
    TAA/Rob - VVD - Digne - { City def } - { }
    Salah - {Sterling/KdB} - Siggy - { } - Dendonker
    King - { } - 4.5

    1. Queenofthestoneage
        7 months, 27 days ago

        Ederson, Laporte.
        170p + 180p for 12.5m uhhj yes pls

        1. Dr. Rog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          a 4.5m keeper needs only 128pts to match Ederson in terms of ppm, and Ederson is a city slot you might well want for an attacker (I got caught out by this last year)

          1. Queenofthestoneage
              7 months, 27 days ago

              What would you change with my perma-team (pls dont ask)

              Ederson.
              VVD. Robo. Laporte. Azpi. Digne.
              Salah. Siggy.
              King. Jimenez. Vardy.
              4.0. 5.0. 5.0. 4.5

            • The 5% Team
              • 1 Year
              7 months, 27 days ago

              but with the 1.5 you save on replacing Ederson, you can't directly get another City mid...so have to save elsewhere as well

        2. Eat my goal!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          7 months, 27 days ago

          Meh city defender

          If you must have city at the back have ederson - better value than Laporte who are the only nailed players

          1. Dr. Rog
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            isn't Walker nailed?

            1. Eat my goal!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              7 months, 27 days ago

              Ederson returned more than walker - your point?

              1. Boxwoods
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                7 months, 27 days ago

                For me, the issue with Walker vs Ederson is I don’t see a 4.5 defender (to pair with Ederson) who looks likely to outscore the 4.5 keeper I would pair with Walker.

        3. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 2 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          I'm somewhat template then, with a 4.0 goalie, 4.5 forward, Dendoncker, Siggy, Sterling, Digne, and both Liverpool fullbacks.

        4. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          I’ve gone 343, got a fair few of the players listed though

        5. I Member
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          I'm super template.

      • jayzico
        • 9 Years
        7 months, 27 days ago

        Looking better after heeding some sharp-as-ever advice on here

        Heaton
        Robbo - VVD - Coleman
        Siggy - Salah - Sterling - Perez
        King - Wilson - DCL

        0.5 ITB to upgrade woeful bench

        1. Dribbles
          • 1 Year
          7 months, 27 days ago

          Bro who is DCL?

          1. Dr. Rog
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            calvert lewin

          2. THFC4LIFE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            Dominic Calvert-Lewin

          3. jayzico
            • 9 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            Calvert Lewis. Everton striker. 6m and at moment Cenk Lolsun as competition

            1. jayzico
              • 9 Years
              7 months, 27 days ago

              Lewin not Lewis sorry

          4. Tony Moon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            Haha. Really?

            1. jayzico
              • 9 Years
              7 months, 27 days ago

              That to me?

              1. Tony Moon
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 months, 27 days ago

                No. The "most improved player" and "top 100k bragger" not knowing who DCL is!

                1. jayzico
                  • 9 Years
                  7 months, 27 days ago

                  ha

        2. Ricky - it doesn't tak…
          • 8 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          Steady. Keep an eye on the Brighton striker's to save a bit of money or maybe punt on Wesley with them fixtures. If I had that team I would be keeping an eye on Marcos alonso as you could get him instead of robbo.

          1. jayzico
            • 9 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            The idea is to squeeze Kane in for Wilson and yeah - Azpi been in since the start but I'll see what lamps does pre-season

      • zinaks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 months, 27 days ago

        Are u planing to get Son as soon as he is back?
        who will you be sacrifing to get him?!

        1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          Not particularly. Just playing it by ear.

          1. Ricky - it doesn't tak…
            • 8 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            Spot on

        2. OneMan
          • 3 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          Yes, prob will. But would be more tempting if Eriksen is gone.

      • Ricky - it doesn't tak…
        • 8 Years
        7 months, 27 days ago

        Thoughts please

        Ryan // Gunn

        Vvd // Coleman // Taylor // diop // targett

        Mane // kdb // siggy // El ghazi // dendoncker

        Kane // vardy // king

        1. jayzico
          • 9 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          Funny. It's like a team of full of second fiddle choices. Possibly a very astute move.

          1. Tony Moon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            Lol. Great minds...

          2. Ricky - it doesn't tak…
            • 8 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            It's a bit of a price point team atm . Haven't settled on it yet.

            Thanks for the thoughts

        2. Tony Moon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          Not bad but difficult to get excited about. You seem to have the "poor man's alternative" in several positions-
          Vvd rather than TAA/Robbo
          Coleman rather than Digne
          Mane rather than Salah
          KDB rather than Sterling.

          It could work but if the alternatives, with high ownership, score well, you'll be left behind.

          Not sure who you'd captain each week either. Kane/Vardy I suppose.

          1. jayzico
            • 9 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            In saying that I'm backing to be ahead of one of Robbo/TAA this season. In reality he's streets ahead

            1. jayzico
              • 9 Years
              7 months, 27 days ago

              *backing VVD

            2. teneighty
              • 5 Years
              7 months, 27 days ago

              I agree. And he is undroppable. I'm currently o. VVD and Robbo.

              1. Queenofthestoneage
                  7 months, 27 days ago

                  Same

            3. Ricky - it doesn't tak…
              • 8 Years
              7 months, 27 days ago

              Vvd will get more minutes
              Coleman may get downgraded to enable funds else unless maguire moves
              Just think the 1m cheaper for mane is a good deal but may get Salah.
              Same boat with Sterling or getting aguero especially if kdb ends up playing deeper again like a few seasons ago
              Captains would be mane/kane maybe vardy.

              Thanks for the opinion

        3. cheeky moses
          • 4 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          Is Noble a starter this season for West Ham? Their midfield slots are getting crowded...

          1. FPL_PEP_TALK
            • 2 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            I'm hoping he is as I have him as my 4th mid in my first draft squad. I know he's getting on but he played most of the games last season ... and as captain ... and is the penalty taker.

        4. Syd.
          • 10 Years
          7 months, 27 days ago

          It must be terrible when the whole of Centre Court wants you to lose.

          1. Queenofthestoneage
              7 months, 27 days ago

              Djoker enters the chat

            • diesel001
              • 3 Years
              7 months, 27 days ago

              Djokovic and Serena Williams seem to manage it though.

              Hercog should have beaten Gauff today. Hercog can only blame herself for choking.

          2. Jordan.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 months, 27 days ago

            todays

            ederson

            trippier /digne / robertson

            eriksen / zaha /de bruyne/ lanzini

            king / firmino /vardy

            button / azpilicueta / dendonker /kelly

            1. jayzico
              • 9 Years
              7 months, 27 days ago

              ha. nice. could be genius

          3. Fionn791
              7 months, 27 days ago

              (A) wesley king delefeu and dendonker

              Or
              (B) delefeu king nketiah trossard

              Just have a feeling about trossard as he was on set pieces at genk

              1. Tony Moon
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                7 months, 27 days ago

                Why not just remove King and Deulofeu from the options...

                1. Fionn791
                    7 months, 27 days ago

                    Does it matter and I was hoping for an answer

                    1. Tony Moon
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      7 months, 27 days ago

                      Well it's Wesley and Dendoncker vs Nketiah Trossard.

                      I don't know enough about the latter two to answer, sorry.

                2. FPL_PEP_TALK
                  • 2 Years
                  7 months, 27 days ago

                  I think A has more chance of actually playing regularly not sure nketiah will.

              2. How I met your Mata
                • 4 Years
                7 months, 27 days ago

                Team too defense heavy??
                Ederson
                VVD Digne TAA Alderwield
                Zaha Salah Siggy KDB
                Vardy DCL

                4m Gibson Deknocker Wickham
                Cheers

                1. Fionn791
                    7 months, 27 days ago

                    Maybe go Mendy for now and go coleman instead of Alderweireld.

                2. xiMoxiee
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  7 months, 27 days ago

                  For those with Kane, which of Salah or Sterling are you sacrificing? I imagine Sterling, but do Man City's other assets really come anywhere near his potential?

                  1. Ricky - it doesn't tak…
                    • 8 Years
                    7 months, 27 days ago

                    Kane rotates better with a man city option for captain choices so probably a liverpool attacker. Just need to decide if it's aguero or Sterling

                    1. xiMoxiee
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 5 Years
                      7 months, 27 days ago

                      Wow. Can't do that as Liverpool fan 😉

                      1. Ricky - it doesn't tak…
                        • 8 Years
                        7 months, 27 days ago

                        Why not? Head over heart. Whenever Liverpool have done well in the past I have not had there players until Salah last 2 seasons

                  2. Fionn791
                      7 months, 27 days ago

                      for me I’m on salah and sterling because I just feel the midfield will outweigh strikers this season and de bruyne who most people are on with Kane just is too risky for me

                    • Rigid Digit
                      • 3 Years
                      7 months, 27 days ago

                      Kane & Salah - with Bernardo Silva as City Mid (also got Siggurdsson as second 8.0 mid). May drop one to 6.5 and get De Bruyne, but neither Perez or Brooks make it appealing.
                      Waiting for a price on Rondon (if he goes to West Ham) and Batshuayi, which may lead to some MF tinkering

                    • FPL_PEP_TALK
                      • 2 Years
                      7 months, 27 days ago

                      I've currently got all three as my three big hitters in the squad.

                  3. Queenofthestoneage
                      7 months, 27 days ago

                      Is there an ultimate PPM draft based on this seasons prices with last years points?

                    • Over Midwicket
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      7 months, 27 days ago

                      Is a straight head to head, who would you prefer..

                      Sigurdsson or Wilson

                      Both 8mil with lovely opening runs of fixtures.

                      1. How I met your Mata
                        • 4 Years
                        7 months, 27 days ago

                        Siggy

                      2. Queenofthestoneage
                          7 months, 27 days ago

                          Sigurdsson
                          /thread

                        • FPL_PEP_TALK
                          • 2 Years
                          7 months, 27 days ago

                          Think I have to agree with the others ... Sigurdsson.

                        • ewangri
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 2 Years
                          7 months, 27 days ago

                          Siggy

                      3. Boxwoods
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 2 Years
                        7 months, 27 days ago

                        Swore to myself I would pick Sterling this year (and Kun as well for that matter), but have ended up with this instead:

                        BUR starter
                        Digne VVD Walker TAA
                        Salah KDB Siggy Fraser
                        Vardy Deulofeu

                        4.0 4.0 Dendoncker 4.5

                        Don’t really want to touch the backline. Although Walker is meh, I think I’m set on either him or Ederson for City def. Seems like Vardy > 6.5 is the only way to get Sterling, but unconvinced that Sterling and a 6.5 outscores Vardy + KDB if all stay fit.

                        1. Queenofthestoneage
                            7 months, 27 days ago

                            Not bad!

                            1. Boxwoods
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 2 Years
                              7 months, 27 days ago

                              Cheers. Very template, of course, although most on here appear to prefer King to Deu, and there’s (maybe understandably) little love for Walker.

                        2. DIMITRIS
                          • 1 Year
                          7 months, 27 days ago

                          RMT please:
                          FAbianski
                          TAA | Digne | Holebas
                          Salah | KDB | Siggy| Zaha
                          Che | Kane | King
                          button, kelly, dendonker, rico

                          1. Fionn791
                              7 months, 27 days ago

                              the only thing I would do is put a 4.5 goalkeeper instead of fabianski and upgrade holebas but apart from that looks good

                              1. DIMITRIS
                                • 1 Year
                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                Thanks mate

                            • ewangri
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 2 Years
                              7 months, 27 days ago

                              Agree with Fionn, Che Adams is a risk too, tough games to start with.

                              1. DIMITRIS
                                • 1 Year
                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                Yeah I know, but just maybe he's worth a punt

                                1. Fionn791
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    If you are in for a punt at 6.0 go for Wesley he is 6’3 and fast so the physicality won’t be an issue and he is almost nailed on to play every game

                            • Eat my goal!
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 1 Year
                              7 months, 27 days ago

                              I’ve put KDB in my side (as well as sterling) but I begin to question my belief in his quick return to the glory days - what is everyone’s thoughts?

                              1. ewangri
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 2 Years
                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                I'm tempted, think Rodri could free him up a bit from last season, but might be worth waiting a few weeks

                              2. Fionn791
                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                  I was on de bruyne but he is just a bit too risky for me so I have gone sterling but knowing me that could change.

                                  1. Eat my goal!
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 1 Year
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    Its difficult coz from the off siggy or even rich could be better and that much cheaper too

                                • FPL_PEP_TALK
                                  • 2 Years
                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                  I worry about the fact that KDB seemed to get injured a lot last season. I think I'd want to see him prove his fitness first for a run of games.

                                  1. Eat my goal!
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 1 Year
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    It’s been so long and if he has a good pre season then it should allay fears but that really is the issue - a good start necessary to stop panic shifts from chasing

                                • Jaws
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 5 Years
                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                  Look at it this way. If he does gets injured a few weeks into the season, you've got a perfect 9.5 alternative (Son).

                              3. ewangri
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 2 Years
                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                Feel like i'm starting to get there!

                                Lloris

                                TAA VVD Digne Laporte Zinchenko

                                Salah Siggy Sterling

                                King Jota

                                Button Dendoncker Stephens Nketiah

                                Any thoughts? Had Robbo and TAA but VVD gives the extra 0.5 to go 4.5 GK to Lloris

                                1. Eat my goal!
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 1 Year
                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                  I really like it but azpi over Laporte and robbo over Vvd

                                2. Fionn791
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    At the moment I’m on delefeu over Jota as fixtures for watford are good and is likely to have a better season if he gets more minutes but apart from that maybe Coleman for zinchenko but otherwise looks good

                                3. Eat my goal!
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 1 Year
                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                  Heaton / Ryan
                                  Robbo TAA Digne Ake (Kelly)
                                  Salah Sterling KDB Grealish (Hayden)
                                  Jota King (4.5)

                                  I’m feeling pretty happy about this team please rip to shreds with constructive criticism

                                  1. Snevitz
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 10 Years
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    Probably good enough to come second in your league 🙂

                                    1. Eat my goal!
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 1 Year
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      Mate it’s a good side - I question kdb from the off though

                                      Maybe drop to siggy and upgrade either ake or grealish

                                      I like the price point for grealish since yarmo could prove like a good option, there is teilimens to get bought and priced but figure he’ll be 6mil and also Perez now at Leicester

                                      Equally kdb could easily be son or Pogba (providing he stays)

                                      1. Snevitz
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 10 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        KDB is a good risk to take,easy to downgrade to whoever starts well.
                                        Yeah there are some interesting options at £6m, hopefully one will have an excellent pre season.

                                  2. Snevitz
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 10 Years
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    Not convinced about Jota due to Europe and Grealish is a risk but could work out well.
                                    All looks solid though, we have 7 players the same.

                                    1. Eat my goal!
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 1 Year
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      jota could be deulofeu nice if I could reach to Jimenez or vardy - again kdb is the fall guy

                                      1. Snevitz
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 10 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        There is a lot of your budget tied up in those three mids but nothing wrong with that if the cheaper players work out as well.

                                4. Taa very much
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 9 Years
                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                  The answer to your question is no! But !! And I hate starting a sentence with But...But in my opinion
                                  King is not a player I would want he needs to play all the time and I don’t see him as a team player! If Wilson goes to Chelsea then he will be well worth the price.?

                                  1. Scotty B
                                    • 7 Years
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    Aren't they banned from signing players?

                                  2. Wild Rover
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 9 Years
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    Well that's not happening is it?

                                  3. Udo
                                    • 2 Years
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    What season are you talking about, Chelsea won't get anybody, except an inexperienced coach called Lampard? Chelsea have their "top" forward in Gru.

                                5. Scotty B
                                  • 7 Years
                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                  Which one of these do you think looks better?

                                  A Ederson, Coleman & Robertson
                                  B Alisson, Digne & Laporte

                                  1. xiMoxiee
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 5 Years
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    Don't waste a Liverpool spot on Alisson

                                  2. Queenofthestoneage
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      Ederson. Digne. Laporte. Robo.
                                      To be fair..sry if it doesnt help.

                                    • Super Saints
                                      • 3 Years
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      A

                                      1. Scotty B
                                        • 7 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        How come?

                                    • Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 9 Years
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      Thought you were done? Compulsive liar?

                                      1. Wild Rover
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 9 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        You thought he was done? Mug 😛

                                        1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 9 Years
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          I'm a trusting guy. Why would anyone lie? 🙁

                                      2. Scotty B
                                        • 7 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        Yeh compulsive liar, that's me

                                    • badgerboy
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 4 Years
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      Thought you were going on holiday?

                                      1. Scotty B
                                        • 7 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        I am...in 5 weeks

                                    • Tony Moon
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 10 Years
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      C. Heaton, Robertson, Digne plus £1m to upgrade elsewhere.

                                  3. dorrian123
                                    • 7 Years
                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                    thoughts on this first draft ??

                                    allisson
                                    vvd robertson digne laporte wan-bissaka
                                    sigurdsson kdb sterling maddison
                                    rashford

                                    bench fodders lol

                                    1. Super Saints
                                      • 3 Years
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      Say goodbye to your rank

                                      1. Queenofthestoneage
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          Youre thinking about Salah?

                                          1. Super Saints
                                            • 3 Years
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            Yep

                                      2. @FPLDIARYFPL
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 2 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        get rid of wan b and/or downgrade kdb and upgrade a striker.

                                        1. @FPLDIARYFPL
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 2 Years
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          and Get rid of rashford

                                        2. dorrian123
                                          • 7 Years
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          always going to keep kdb nailed on for city and 2.5 million cheaper the sterling. If fully fit all season guarnteed 200+ points. might downgrade sterling and upgrade strikers

                                      3. Wild Rover
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 9 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        It's a very good team. Ignore the Rashford haters, they'll all own him soon enough. I'd maybe look at Maddison to Perez who is cheaper and don't see much potential in AWB

                                    2. @FPLDIARYFPL
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 2 Years
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      Anyone got a link to a table showing value? Points per £price

                                    3. Super Saints
                                      • 3 Years
                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                      Ederson
                                      TAA Robbo Walker Coleman Trippier
                                      Salah Sterling Siggy
                                      King Deulofeu

                                      1. Queenofthestoneage
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          I like it but TAA will rest atleast 5-6 games and your bench wont make up for it. Go supernailed VVD for 0.5 less and +200p guarantee. Also Trippier isnt going to play every game. Rather Digne/Azpi. Otherwise nice.

                                          1. Snevitz
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • 10 Years
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            TAA got .9 more PPG than Van Dijk and I can't remember him being rested at all last season.

                                          2. badgerboy
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • 4 Years
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            His team won't stay the same for 38 gameweeks. You can just upgrade your cheap bench players as your team value rises.

                                        • Eat my goal!
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 1 Year
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          Very nice although digne stats suggest he’s significantly better option than Coleman

                                          Chelsea seem forgot, their defence is still strong

                                          I’d rather have azpi/Luiz and digne than Laporte and Coleman

                                          1. pingissimus
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • 1 Year
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            Digne needs someone to finish off his chances. Until Everton get someone better than DCL he may just be a stat monster.

                                          2. Ramboros
                                            • 8 Years
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            Digne's stats show that he's overperforming massively in goal output and underperforming massively in assist output. Goals are worth twice as many points as assists for defenders, meaning that Digne is actually overperforming by a great deal. Digne is overperforming his xG + xA by 5.7 FPL points. Coleman on the other hand is underperforming his xG + xA by 1.96 FPL points. That's just over the course of the season, where Coleman ended up missing more minutes. Right now their xG + xA per 90 minutes would imply that Digne will score 10 points more over a 38 game season. Assuming that their bonus point output is consistent regardless of their performance compared to their underlying numbers, Coleman would've scored 7 fewer bonus points over 38 matches, bringing the total to 17 points over the course of the season. That's 0.89 extra points per game per £1.0 m spent.

                                            There is a considerable amount of players in the game that will offer higher value than 0.89 extra points per game per £1.0 m spent.

                                            1. Markus
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 10 Years
                                              7 months, 27 days ago

                                              Marvellous! This is the sort of analysis we need. Only difference is the conclusion for me, 17 points for 0.5m is good value, once you pick all the best 'value' players the difference to max points players is more like 10 points for 0.5m. I do think it will be fairly marginal between those two.

                                      2. pelle9
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 4 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        Guys,

                                        When will be be able to use the rate my team, build your team feature in the members area ?

                                        Thanks.

                                      3. LIARS POKER
                                        • 3 Years
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        Which option would you prefer?

                                        A) Sterling + Long/Dendocker/4.5def rotating each week
                                        B) KDB + Maddison

                                        1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 9 Years
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          Probably A.

                                          1. Scotty B
                                            • 7 Years
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            So you can give normal answers to some people. Compulsive bully

                                            1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 9 Years
                                              7 months, 27 days ago

                                              I give normal answers to people who don't take the píss.

                                              1. Scotty B
                                                • 7 Years
                                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                                Take the piss!! Haha what's it got to do with you? Just don't comment on what I say then if you're that bothered. I feel sorry for you that you care that much about me!

                                                1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 9 Years
                                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                                  I never said I was bothered. I'm just giving you the replies you deserve.

                                            2. Wild Rover
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 9 Years
                                              7 months, 27 days ago

                                              *So you can give some answers to normal people

                                              Right words, wrong order

                                              1. Scotty B
                                                • 7 Years
                                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                                Keyboard warrior

                                        2. dorrian123
                                          • 7 Years
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          I’d go B , Kdb will get 200+ points of fully fit this season and pretty much nailed on in city team. Can see Maddison imporing on last years score aswell

                                        3. jtreble
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 3 Years
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          A for me.

                                      4. Gringo Kid
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 1 Year
                                        7 months, 27 days ago

                                        Best 4.5 defender rotation?

                                        1. Fionn791
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            I’m on Adam Smith with Bournemouth’s early fixtures
                                            And Targett who I think will get assists as he did in the little minutes he had at Southampton.

                                        2. THFC4LIFE
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 3 Years
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          What’s people’s thoughts on David Silva as an option?

                                          7.5m, read on here he’s now club captain and he’s an absolute genius of a footballer.

                                          1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • 9 Years
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            He's great but I'm not convinced he will be nailed, captain or no captain.

                                          2. dorrian123
                                            • 7 Years
                                            7 months, 27 days ago

                                            I would avoid he’s 33 now prob not going to play every game bar the important ones , just like kompany last season.

                                        3. Macam Dave
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 1 Year
                                          7 months, 27 days ago

                                          How's are my girls looking:

                                          A) 532
                                          Ederson
                                          Coleman VVD taa mendy ASmith
                                          Zaha sterling Salah 4.5 4.5
                                          King Vardy 4.5

                                          Or B) 442

                                          Same but swaps
                                          Asmith, 4.5, Vardy >>> kelly, Fraser, Deulofeu

                                          Thanks

                                          1. Fionn791
                                              7 months, 27 days ago

                                              Really good it’s nice to see someone else going for Adam Smith. This is optional but maybe go for rotation 4.5 instead of Coleman like Targett who I have and upgrade zaha to siggy

                                              1. Macam Dave
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 1 Year
                                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                                Yeah good thinking thanks for the reply. So don't like option b then which downgrades Vardy? Leic fixtures look tough but it's vardy!

                                            • Wild Rover
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 9 Years
                                              7 months, 27 days ago

                                              I like 5-3-2 but not with Smith in it

                                              1. Macam Dave
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 1 Year
                                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                                Thanks who else for 4.5 Def pls as I'm struggling finding someone

                                                1. Fionn791
                                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                                    Targett as he will get assists and his stats in the minutes he got last season his points and assists are quite good.

                                                  • Wild Rover
                                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                    • 9 Years
                                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                                    A 5.5m Man City def will start, so if you downgrade Mendy and Maddison to Perez you can get a replacement for Smith. Trippier?

                                                    1. Wild Rover
                                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                      • 9 Years
                                                      7 months, 27 days ago

                                                      Sorry, I mixed you up with someone else who has Maddison. Zaha to Perez would do the job

                                              2. Tony Moon
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 10 Years
                                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                                I read earlier that Mendy is crocked. True or not, need to keep an eye on him on pre-season. Zinchenko would save you 0.5m, I'd downgrade Ederson personally to a 4.5 option (more save points) then you'd have 2m as a nice upgrade somewhere. You could then do King to Wilson and Coleman to Digne.

                                            • Michu 9
                                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                                Hi everyone, any thoughts or advices are appreciated.

                                                Lloris
                                                Roberson TAA Digne Zinchenko (if nailed)
                                                Salah Zaha Perez
                                                Aguero Jimenez King

                                                Button Hayden Dendoncker Rico

                                                Thanks in advance

                                                1. Macam Dave
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 1 Year
                                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                                  Jimmy could be tired from playing during summer as he has had lot of minutes. Aren't wolves fix's also tough to start with.

                                                  Coleman over digne for me as if you look at underlying stats Coleman just as good

                                                2. dorrian123
                                                  • 7 Years
                                                  7 months, 27 days ago

                                                  Be careful on salah Zaha aguero and Jimenez , who are all still playing in summer tournaments. Might miss 1/2 games at start of season

                                              • Scotty B
                                                • 7 Years
                                                7 months, 27 days ago

                                                This is what you want start of the season in your 11 regardless of anything else:-

                                                Alisson nailed
                                                Walker nailed
                                                Ake nailed (10 goals in 3 seasons)
                                                VVD nailed (beast)
                                                Laporte nailed
                                                Digne nailed (FK/corners)
                                                Salah nailed (pens, corners)
                                                Siggy nailed (pens) (FK/corners)
                                                Fraser nailed
                                                King nailed (pens
                                                Aguero nailed (pens)

                                                1. Fionn791
                                                    7 months, 27 days ago

                                                    Trossard is likely to take fk and corners and penalties if Murray doesn’t play, I think he is a dark horse