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What FPL managers can expect from new Chelsea boss Frank Lampard

The appointment of Frank Lampard as the new Chelsea head coach is an interesting one for Blues’ fans and Fantasy managers alike.

The retired midfielder has had only one year in club management, having led Derby County to a Championship play-off final in 2018/19.

Maurizio Sarri’s 11-month stay in west London ended with his appointment as Juventus manager in June and there is palpable hope among the Stamford Bridge faithful that Sarri’s exit could be a positive one for the club’s many academy products.

Lampard has already hinted that he will give youth a chance next season and that prospect will seem even likelier if Chelsea’s two-window transfer ban is upheld.

The departure of Eden Hazard is a blow and, with the Blues currently unable to recruit, we are faced with a strange situation of no Chelsea player being available for more than £7.5m in Fantasy Premier League next season.

Bargains could be had among the Blues’ squad, then, with the likes of Willian (£7.0m) and Christian Pulisic (£7.5m) catching the eye in the mid-price midfield bracket and several academy graduates – such as Tammy Abraham and Mason Mount, who are still yet to be priced up – potentially making the step up to senior level in 2019/20.

To help us piece together a picture of Lampard the manager, we have enlisted the help of Derby County fan site/Twitter account 12th Ram for further insight on the Chelsea boss.

What Style of Football Does Lampard Use?

The attacking returns posted by Jayden Bogle last season may be a clue as to how Frank Lampard wants his Chelsea full-backs to play in 2019/20.

We have only one season’s worth of evidence to draw upon but there were plenty of clues at Derby for what type of football Lampard will try to play in west London.

Like Sarri, Lampard frequently used a 4-3-3 but there were differences within the two systems.

Lampard often opted for an additional midfield enforcer (i.e. Bradley Johnson) just in front of the back four, as opposed to only playing a Jorginho (£5.0m)-type of ‘regista’ there.

N’Golo Kante (£5.0m) may well be the man Lampard turns to in that position, should he stick to a 4-3-3.

In his first press conference, Lampard said:

I’ve said it before, Kante is one of the greatest midfield players in the world. In the last few years, his performances have been outstanding. My job will be to find the best position to get the best out of him. I know the qualities, the attributes he has.

The new Chelsea boss exacted a high press from the front at Derby and high energy levels were asked of County’s midfielders and forwards when both in and out of possession.

The youthful zest of Ross Barkley (£6.0m) and Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£6.5m) may nicely fit into a similar system, although where that would leave Jorginho is another question.

It’s not a given that Lampard will use a 4-3-3 at Chelsea, of course. The new Blues’ boss experimented with a similar 4-2-3-1, a 4-4-2 and a wing-back system during 2018/19.

The full-backs in Lampard’s Derby teams have been encouraged to get forward to provide width, with County’s wide midfielders having generally played as more narrow inside-forwards rather than out-and-out wingers.

Right-back Jayden Bogle, indeed, registered more assists than any of his team-mates last season.

One of the weaknesses of Lampard’s stewardship has been the spaces left behind his gallivanting full-backs when they bomb forward.

Similarly, the new Chelsea boss’s insistence on a high line and playing out from the back also caused a problem or two.

12th Ram said:

Lampard was very clear from the outset that he wanted to play a fast, aggressive, attacking game and at times we saw that in action.

However, his stubbornness to mix up the tactics often led to us being one-dimensional and predictable. Especially playing out from the back when we didn’t have the players to do so – it cost us a few goals!

Most Derby fans would agree that his tactical stubbornness – or being naive – cost us a few times last season.

Rotation is the Fantasy manager’s nemesis and 12th Ram said that Lampard is prone to making the odd change to his line-ups on a week-to-week basis. In particular, he referenced the flanks, which could slightly temper interest in Willian and Pedro (£7.0m) ahead of the pre-season matches.

He’s a bit of a rotator but this doesn’t mean he doesn’t have his favourites. Expect changes each game but usually on the flanks or up top, whereas he tends to keep a more settled defence.

For much more detailed analysis of Lampard’s debut season as manager, may we point you in the direction of Ram Srinivas’s superb in-depth piece that delves into the Derby data from 2018/19.

Will Lampard put his faith in youth?

Tammy Abraham has returned to Chelsea after hitting 26 goals for Aston Villa in the Championship last season.

Lampard made positive noises about Chelsea’s youth system in his first press conference and indeed he worked with two of the club’s academy products at Derby last season.

Midfielder Mason Mount and centre-back Fikayo Tomori, who joined on loan from Chelsea in the summer of 2018, made 44 and 35 Championship appearances respectively for the Rams, with both players playing a prominent part in the play-offs too.

Five of the six players who racked up the most minutes for Derby in the second tier were 24 or under at the start of the campaign, one of whom was 18-year-old full-back Jayden Bogle.

However, 32-year-old Richard Keogh was an ever-present at the heart of the defence and thirtysomethings Bradley Johnson, Craig Bryson, Scott Carson, and Tom Huddlestone all made at least 20 league starts.

Veteran Ashley Cole was also recruited in the January transfer window to add experience to the squad.

As a result, not one of Derby’s starting XIs featured in the top 50 youngest matchday line-ups of the 2018/19 Championship season.

To paraphrase Alan Partridge, it will probably be evolution and not revolution at the Bridge next year as Lampard looks to bed in a few young prospects with the future in mind while retaining a senior core of players in the first team.

Indeed, in his press conference, Lampard said:

On one hand, trying to develop young players, I think that’s really important, but at the same time, I want to work with the experienced players. I want players that, whether you’re 18 years of age or 32 years of age, you feel like Chelsea’s your club.

If we talk about losing Eden Hazard, yes we can understand that. But at the same time, we also have a very strong squad of players and I don’t want to talk down this squad because there is huge talent there. A team that managed to come third last year in the Premier League and managed to win the Europa League. We haven’t been decimated, we haven’t lost players from everywhere, we still have a very strong squad.

How Did Lampard’s Derby Compare With Sarri’s Chelsea?

Both Maurizio Sarri and Eden Hazard have departed Stamford Bridge this summer.

While any statistical comparison between a Championship club and a side in the top flight is to be taken with a pinch of salt, it is worth looking at various underlying statistics to see how Derby County and Chelsea fared in 2018/19 – particularly as both teams were somewhere towards the top of their respective divisions.

Attacking Stats
TeamGoalsShotsShots on targetShots in the boxBig chancesShot accuracyGoal conversionAvg possession
Derby1.5113.334.596.961.4546.58%11.33%55.1%
Chelsea1.6615.975.189.952.5332.45%10.38%63.6%

Above: Underlying attacking stats for Derby and Chelsea in 2018/19 (including play-offs). All figures given bar shot accuracy, goal conversion and average possession are per game.

Chelsea bettered Derby for most of the key performance indicators listed above, although the Rams were more clinical with their chances.

What is illustrated here is just how many times Derby’s players chanced their arm from distance: 47.9% of their shots were from outside the box, a higher percentage than any other Premiership or Championship club.

Derby’s midfielders and forwards seem to have been actively encouraged by Lampard to try long-range efforts. No Championship player registered more attempts or goals from outside the box than Harry Wilson last season.

That may lead to more shots for the likes of Willian, Barkley and Loftus-Cheek, should a similar mentality be adopted at Stamford Bridge. Only 37.7% of Chelsea’s attempts were from outside the box in 2018/19.

As a result of this shoot-on-sight approach, the quality of opportunities was a concern. Derby’s rate of 1.45 big chances per game was bettered by 16 Premier League clubs in 2018/19.

Reading were the only second-tier club to have fewer shots in the six-yard box than Derby (31) last season.

Defensive Stats
TeamGoals concededClean sheetsShots concededShots on target concededShots in the box concededBig chances conceded
Derby1.200.2212.713.618.371.51
Chelsea1.030.429.183.265.681.45

Above: Underlying defensive stats for Derby and Chelsea in 2018/19 (including play-offs). All figures given are per game.

Chelsea outperformed Derby on the defensive front, with the Rams only recording 11 clean sheets in their 49 league and play-off matches: the Blues managed five more shut-outs in ten fewer games.

There was a very similar number of big chances conceded by both sides on average per game, although Derby were more prone to allowing shots in the box.

Did Lampard Make an Improvement at Derby on 2017/18?

Clean sheets weren’t easy to come by for Derby in 2018/19.

In the season before Lampard’s appointment, Derby finished sixth in the Championship – exactly where they did in 2018/19.

The Rams gained one point fewer under Lampard than they did under Gary Rowett, with their rate of goals (1.51 v 1.48) almost identical across the league and play-off matches in both campaigns.

Rowett’s Derby conceded at a rate of 1.04 goals per game, compared to 1.20 under Lampard.

Interestingly, Derby kept almost double the number of clean sheets under Rowett (20) – who was criticised in some quarters for his dour tactics – than they managed under Lampard (11).

The new Chelsea boss showed more attacking ambition than his predecessor at Pride Park, with Derby averaging 13.33 shots per game under Lampard compared to 11.81 under Rowett.

Lampard’s Rams did average more shots in the box per match than Rowett’s rather less exciting side (6.96 v 6.65) although there wasn’t a great deal in it as County repeatedly let fly from distance in the season just gone.

How Does Lampard Handle The Press?

Frank Lampard in his first press conference as Chelsea manager.

Lampard has always come across as fairly intelligent and polite as a player and pundit and those traits are again evident as a manager.

12th Ram said:

If you had half an eye on the Championship last season you would have heard all about Bielsa, Leeds and Spygate! Lampard carried himself incredibly well throughout it and rarely lost face.

In post-match interviews when we’d lost he’d be visibly angry but that’s what you want to see from the boss.

One of his big positives is his levelheadedness and professionalism with the media, as you’d expect from someone who’s been in the limelight for so many years.

What we FPL managers really want from him as Chelsea boss is clear and unequivocal quotes on the Blues’ injury situation.

According to 12th Ram, the prospects look good on that front:

He’s pretty upfront regarding injury news which will be a boost to Fantasy players. Can’t remember too many times where he’s been tricky in this regard.

Final Thoughts

Christian Pulisic, Chelsea’s most expensive player in FPL, is still cheaper than 13 other midfielders.

There is understandable caution about Lampard’s appointment given his inexperience at managerial level and the weaknesses that were apparent at Derby last season.

Nevertheless, it should be stressed that 2018/19 was as much a transitional year for the Rams as it was a learning curve for Lampard himself.

The then-County boss had to move several senior high-earners on early in his tenure and instil a completely different footballing ethos to the one his players were used to under the dour Rowett.

Any defensive frailties of his preferred style and formation would, you’d think, be helped no end by having Kante – rather than Tom Huddlestone or Bradley Johnson – to call upon in front of the back four in 2019/20.

It may well be that next season is a similarly transitional one for Chelsea that 2018/19 was for Derby, as Lampard begins the long-term process of integrating academy products into the first-team set-up and trying to coach “Sarri-ball” out of the senior players already at his disposal.

Should Chelsea’s transfer ban be upheld, Lampard would also be unable to recruit the exact type of player he is looking for to prosper in his system.

Pre-season will be an interesting watch, then, while the matches against Manchester United and Leicester City in Gameweeks 1 and 2 might be decent auditions if many of us are still to be convinced that the cut-price FPL options in Chelsea’s squad are as good as they seem.

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  1. No Professionals
    • 1 Year
    7 days, 8 hours ago

    Pretty settled with my Salah, sterling and kane team, but thought I'd try something different...

    Heaton
    TAA Robertson Digne Zinchenko
    Salah KDB Perez Townsend
    Aguero King

    Subs button Kelly Dendoncker Greenwood

    Looks ok?

    1. Jones Bond
      • 2 Years
      7 days, 8 hours ago

      Yes not a bad looking team providing zinchenko is a starter

    2. KAPTAIN KANE
      • 2 Years
      7 days, 8 hours ago

      Decent!! Only concern really is Zinchenko

      1. No Professionals
        • 1 Year
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        Yeah Zinchenko is a watch out at this stage. Raft of spurs defenders at that price if needs be.

        1. nisag17
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          I actually think Spurs will be better defensively after spending big on a defensive mid. Plus this article hints at a possible shift to 3 5 2 which will get clearer in preseason.

          https://eplindex.com/83723/ndombele-signing-should-allow-tottenham-to-move-to-3-4-2-1-permanently.html

    3. Dont_Win_Friends_With_Salah…
      • 1 Year
      7 days, 7 hours ago

      You do realise Sterling is missing from your Salah, Sterling and Kane team?

      Good looking team though.

      1. Dont_Win_Friends_With_Salah…
        • 1 Year
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        Sorry, I'm being a moron

  2. Jones Bond
    • 2 Years
    7 days, 8 hours ago

    Sterling and 6.5 forward
    Or
    Kdb and Vardy?

    Have 3x6.5 forwards at the moment and not sure about it

    1. Loftus cheeky nandos
        7 days, 8 hours ago

        A

      • KAPTAIN KANE
        • 2 Years
        7 days, 8 hours ago

        A for now, with a view to moving to B long term potentially

      • Dinksy
        • 4 Years
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        depends if you need the captaincy option with Sterling or not

      • ClothedinSun
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          KDB and Vardy.

          1. Jones Bond
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Cheers for the feedback guys, Salah is my only other captain option really.

      • Jay Jay Okocha
        • 6 Years
        7 days, 8 hours ago

        Filling out a draft around my essentials:

        A) A Smith, Siggy
        B) Walker, Deulofeu

        1. KAPTAIN KANE
          • 2 Years
          7 days, 8 hours ago

          A

      • KAPTAIN KANE
        • 2 Years
        7 days, 8 hours ago

        When you're 0.5m off your perfect team! Aaarrgghhh

        1. Ask Yourself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          7 days, 8 hours ago

          Let’s see it might be able to help if it’s only 0.5!

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Ederson
            TAA | VVD | Digne
            Salah | KdB | Siggy | Tielemans | Dendoncker
            Kane | King

            Button | Kelly | Rico | Greenwood

            1. Ask Yourself
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Are you sure starting Dendoncker every week is your perfect team ? I’d have to turn Ederson into a 4.5 there

              1. KAPTAIN KANE
                • 2 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                No but really wanted every other player in the XI.

                Thanks would you be worried with no City defense and just KdB?

              2. KAPTAIN KANE
                • 2 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                Here it is without Dendoncker in XI:

                Ryan
                TAA | VVD | Digne | Zinchenko
                Salah | KdB | Siggy | Tielemans
                Kane | King

                Button | Dendoncker | Kelly | Greenwood

                1. Ask Yourself
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  7 days, 7 hours ago

                  I like that. City defence can wait but zinchenko could be the way in. Otherwise there are a few decent 5.5 defenders like trippier, I have Ritchie atm am hoping the new manager puts him back on the wing

                  1. KAPTAIN KANE
                    • 2 Years
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    Thank you.... Trouble is it's still 0.5 over lol

                    1. Ask Yourself
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 3 Years
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      You’re joking lol. Siggy > Fraser then

                2. thunder_mike
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  7 days, 7 hours ago

                  Or Digne > Coleman. They pretty much matched each other for output the 2nd half of last season.

            2. thunder_mike
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Siggy + King > Fraser + DCL

            3. Pieterke30
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              That’s 0.5 too expensive?

              Downgrade Tielemans to JWP or Barkley (if he looks to be nailed at the start); or forget Ederson and get Lloris who has AVL and NEW at home in the first 3.

        2. Kung Fu Football
          • 4 Years
          7 days, 8 hours ago

          Standard!!

        3. Braaate
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          7 days, 8 hours ago

          Seems familiar. I’ve done digne -> coleman

          Ryan/button
          Taa/vvd/coleman/shaw/dunk
          Kdb/zaha/siggi/willian/hayden
          Vardy/king/kane

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            That is an option, thanks. Really want Digne though grrr

            1. Braaate
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              How about cheaper gk for a first couple GWs?

              1. KAPTAIN KANE
                • 2 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                It's looking like the best bet. The perfect scenario would be that Angelino is first choice then I can still have a City defender!

            2. Pieterke30
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              And Salah, probably

          2. KUNingas
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Nice!

        4. Brosstan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          JUst get Tielemans instead of 7.0 😉

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Already done that but thanks

            1. BESTOFTHEBESTS
              • 1 Year
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Ederson to Pickford

        5. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          My perfect team would be more like 30m over.

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            True, but that would also break the max 3 per team rule 😉

        6. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          I guess I’d go Siggy to Fraser

          Nice team

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Thank you for the tip

            1. pingissimus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              It’s a really really nice team - the Dendonck compromise seems worth it while we wait for That Player to appear. Let’s face it most 6.5s will return 2 as often as not

      • Ole's at the wheel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        7 days, 8 hours ago

        Doing alot off thanking about this and iv come to the conclusion that year in year out is there ever really any two strikers that when there fit are better than kane and aguero? How many more strikers are capable of the hauls that they are, so with that in mind iv went with the two a them, please dont judge me too much, haha

        Ryan
        Vvd, laporte, dunk
        Fraser, james, bsilva, kante, mane
        Kane, aguero

        Button, simpson, diop, wickham

        1. nisag17
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          You haven't used up all three Liverpool slots. Rookie mistake. Plus you don't the best three options from Liverpool - TAA, Robertson and Salah. I would get rid of Mane as having three premiums this year doesn't really seem like a good idea.

      • nisag17
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 days, 8 hours ago

        What about this draft?

        Ederson Button
        TAA Robertson Digne Walker Trippier (if Aurier injured and staying)
        Salah Sterling (4.5 x 3)
        Wilson Deulofeu Murray

        I think the three forwards can match the value of mid priced mids. Not convinced by this draft but going for Wilson over Siggy for first two and not sure any 6.5 or below mids match the two strikers I have picked for the early fixtures at least.

        1. BESTOFTHEBESTS
          • 1 Year
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Prefer DCL to Murray

      • Scotty B
        • 7 Years
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        A Fraser & Aguero + 0.5
        Or
        B Sterling & Wilson
        (Already have King)

        1. KAPTAIN KANE
          • 2 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Think I prefer A

          1. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            But also think the 7.0 and 6.5 mids provide better value possibly than Fraser

        2. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          B

        3. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          B

      • Dynamic Duos
        • 5 Years
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        Evening all. Here is my 1st draft for the new season, can you please tell how it is looking and any tips ?

        Ryan
        Azpi VVD Robertson Mendy
        Salah Siggy Zaha Perez
        Wilson Kane

        Button Kelly Wickham Dendoncker

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 4 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          keep an eye on Mendy fitness and Zaha/Perez preseason, but yeah solid

        2. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Looks ok.

        3. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Good team subject to keeping check on Mendy

        4. Dynamic Duos
          • 5 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Cheers all. Replacements for Mendy ? Digne , Rudiger or one from Spurs?

          1. SADIO SANÉ
            • 4 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            plenty of options, Digne/Coleman, Walker/Zinchenko, Trippier, Chelsea, maybe even PVA

        5. BESTOFTHEBESTS
          • 1 Year
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Needs city you only have Mendy and he won't play

      • Goodbye Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        Anyone else notice the 'Build my Team' area has got Tammy Abraham listed at £6.5m - He's not actually listed on the FPL site yet. mmmmm.....

        1. Ask Yourself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          That would be so sexy

        2. Goodbye Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Hummmmm...... H's disappeared now.
          But he has been listed the last couple of days at 6.5m.

          1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Still there fore me.

      • SADIO SANÉ
        • 4 Years
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        this one also looks solid...0.5 ITB

        Burnley GK (4.0)
        TAA VVD Zinchenko (Kelly Gibson)
        Salah Sterling Moura Tielemans (Donck)
        Wilson King Deeney

      • dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        Is it too risky to start with such a weak bench with this team? ( once Son back Moura can be moved to best in form 6.5- 7m mid )

        Ederson
        TAA Azpilicueta Van Dijk Digne
        Salah Sterling Moura Tielemans
        King Deulofeu

        Woodman Dendoncker Wickham Kelly

        1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          No

        2. SADIO SANÉ
          • 4 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          depends on Kelly but it's not that weak (Dendoncker isn't terrible) - like it

        3. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          No worse than most here. Donkey should be fairly regular 2 pointer

      • pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        Benteke off the mark already!!!!!

        1. KUNingas
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Looking good, also Meyer is very lively

        2. Jones Bond
          • 2 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Interesting!!

      • Strchld
        • 2 Years
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        Thats perfect, right?

        Ederson
        TAA - Robbo - Digne - Trippier
        Salah - KdB - Siggy - Bilva
        King - Deulofeu

        Trippier could be also Coleman.

        1. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Perma captain?

        2. nisag17
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Pretty good team.

        3. Strchld
          • 2 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Salah C atleast first 2 weeks.
          Then could do KdB to Son and he is also captain option.

        4. SADIO SANÉ
          • 4 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          can't really argue with much there, would rather Wilson and Heaton over Deulo and Ederson but that's being picky/personal

        5. statenisland
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          I've modelled the forecast points for this team, assuming fodder for other players - 1910. I'm currently at 2003 using the forecast points in the member data 🙂

          1. Strchld
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Is that good or not?

            1. statenisland
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              I don't know yet! I've built this tonight! I'm looking at building an optimisation model that should, in theory, select the best combination...and then manage that through the season. I will manage two teams - one that the model recommends and one that I've picked using my terrible history in FPL. I suspect that my 2003 team is not currently the best!

              1. statenisland
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                7 days, 6 hours ago

                Reading this article: https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2019/07/08/player-value-and-the-most-efficient-use-of-the-fpl-budget/

                A score of 2150 - 2200 should be what we aspire towards...!

      • Chelsea222
        • 4 Years
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        No love for Dele Alli? Decent fixtures, priced lower than previous years, historically solid goals/assists (injury hit season last year). One of the first names on my team sheet.

        1. Kopkloppers
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Deeper role, bigger head, To think Barcelona wanted him.

          1. thunder_mike
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Only played a deeper role due to Spurs lack of midfield options last season. Fully expect Dele to go back to playing further forward this season.

            1. Chelsea222
              • 4 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Agreed - only 2.2% owned as well. For his track record, complete bargain imo. Yes, he may sit back deeper for city, but vs Villa and Newcastle right behind Kane.

            2. Kopkloppers
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              He could well double pivot with the new kid or Winks.

              1. Ask Yourself
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                No way. Alli needs his spot back

                Kane
                Son Alli Moura/Erisken
                Winks Dier
                Rose Vert Sanchez Aurier
                Lloris

                1. Infamy, Infamy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 2 Years
                  7 days, 6 hours ago

                  Ndombele says hello. So does Sissoko.

      • Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        Best 4 the money.
        a) 4.5 keeper (Burnley but Who)
        b) 4.5 defender (not a clue)
        c) 5 keeper Fab
        d) 5 defender Christensen Monreal ?
        e) 5 mid Noble?
        The above makes or breaks overall

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 4 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          a) we'll find out hopefully
          b) Targett or Janmaat
          c) Guaita
          d) Christensen maybe - if not Koscielny, Holebas, Ake
          e) Jorginho

        2. Ask Yourself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          A) Pope
          B) O’Connell
          C) Yeah fab
          D) just get another 4.5 and use 0.5 better
          E) Jorginho (Noble won’t be a regular next year)

          I only have a 4.5 keeper and defender of these so I don’t think they’re make or break

          1. Kopkloppers
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            I like Noble and his price for double digit hand in goals only playing less than 2 thirds of gametime is a steal. Interested to know how Jorginho actually fits in to Chelsea.

          2. Kopkloppers
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            B on my radar

        3. cravencottage
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          a) Pope
          b) A Smith
          c) Fab
          d) Ake
          e) Jorginho

          1. Kopkloppers
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Ake I like TBH

      • Zilla
        • 1 Year
        7 days, 7 hours ago

        KDB could be a captain option, usually delivers when expected.

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          Having captained him on multiple, multiple occasions, and even triple captaining him once, I can confirm that your latter statement is a load o bollix.

          🙂

          1. pingissimus
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            I bow to your experience - I just hit him for a one pointer in a DGW

          2. Zilla
            • 1 Year
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Well then it differs from one to another probably, all about timing innit.

        2. Ask Yourself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          I have salah, Kane, KDB. I hope I can rely on KDB as there are a couple times where neither salah or Kane have the best fixtures

        3. cravencottage
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          I hope so!

      • OleGGMU
          7 days, 7 hours ago

          A bit aprehensive about going "All In " so to speak but thoughts on this XI lads :

          Pickford
          Digne, TAA, VVD
          Brooks, Siggy, Salah, Perez
          King, Aguero, Delof
          Bench : Button, Hayden, Kelly, fodder

          0 ITB

          1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Not bad.

            1. OleGGMU
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                cheers mate, is it too risky though leaving 0 ITB?

          2. evilfish
            • 3 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Who do you think will be better FPLwise, Perez or Tielemans and why?

            1. Pigeon
              • 2 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Tielemans unless Perez is good in Rodgers' system

            2. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Tielemans unless Perez is better.

              1. evilfish
                • 3 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                Well I think Perez will be better unless Tielemans is better. ^^

                1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  7 days, 7 hours ago

                  Can't argue with that. 😉

            3. cravencottage
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Perez is OOP and Tielmans may play deeper, so Perez probably

          3. Limit80
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Are we overlooking Arsenal forwards? Aside from 3 tough fixtures (and Utd away could yield goals), the first 16 matches are a sea of blue but I have seen much Auba or Laca love on here.

            1. SADIO SANÉ
              • 4 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              I got burned enough by them two last year, Auba is obviously a decent pick though but I'd prefer Kane from GW3 onwards

              1. Limit80
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                Kane even in August? 😉

                Yeah I was frustrated last year as missed points a lot from those two - ended up just sticking with one which worked out ok on average over a period.

                1. SADIO SANÉ
                  • 4 Years
                  7 days, 7 hours ago

                  ha yes. Yeah I had both at the same time at one stage and even that didn't work 😀 😀

            2. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              No chance I'm planning 16 matches in advance.

              1. Limit80
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                Haha, I start out a season hoping not to take too many transfers/hits but it never works out that way so I'll probably revert to a shorter horizon 🙂

              2. Irish Madridista ⭐
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                15 max.

                1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  7 days, 7 hours ago

                  I agree, but don't call me Max.

                  1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                    • 9 Years
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    Shirley

            3. cravencottage
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              I think Auba is better than Kane at the price

          4. cravencottage
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Which looks best?

            A) King, Siggy, Zinchenko
            ) Aubameyang, Jorgino, Azpilicueta

            1. Dynamic Duos
              • 5 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              A but that is Zinchencko plays but can always get Coleman/Pva

              1. cravencottage
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                agree- several good options at that price

            2. The Pesci challenge
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              A

            3. Kopkloppers
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Zin a worry with 2 other big name choices at the back.

          5. Dynamic Duos
            • 5 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            A or B and now the tinkering begins lol.

            A) King, KDB and Ake/5m
            B) Wilson, Zaha and Mendy/6m

          6. Worsle90
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            If Rico starts, which I’m led to believe is a likelihood, is this a decent 5-3-2?

            Ryan,
            TAA, VVD, Digne, Zinchenko, Rico
            Salah, Sterling, KDB,
            Rashford, King
            Button, Dendoncker, Hayden, Greenwood

            1. Ask Yourself
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              If he does start it’s great yes

            2. KAPTAIN KANE
              • 2 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Yes though they have signed Lloyd Kelly which could hamper his chances

          7. Pigeon
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            Thoughts on this?

            Ryan
            TAA Digne Robertson Christensen
            Salah Sterling Siggy Perez
            Wilson Deulofeu
            Button Dendoncker Kelly Wickham

          8. KAPTAIN KANE
            • 2 Years
            7 days, 7 hours ago

            A or B?

            A) Sterling & 4.5 def (5-3-2)
            B) KdB & Siggy (4-4-2)

            Thanks

            1. KAPTAIN KANE
              • 2 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              A has + 1.0m too

            2. The Pesci challenge
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              B

              1. KAPTAIN KANE
                • 2 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                Thanks!

          9. Eat my goal!
              7 days, 7 hours ago

              Is Kane a 200 point player any more, injuries result in more injuries, both ankles now a weakness, wasn’t playing in the same position last year either to be as effective as he had been in the past.

              1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
                • 9 Years
                7 days, 7 hours ago

                I agree at 25 his best is behind him . I think he should be euthanized or put out to stud

                1. Eat my goal!
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    It’s not about age, it’s about weaknesses

                2. SADIO SANÉ
                  • 4 Years
                  7 days, 7 hours ago

                  he's more of a 200 point player than Aguero is 😀

                  1. Eat my goal!
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      That’s a separate discussion

                  2. No Professionals
                    • 1 Year
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    Kane plays the full season, he gets 200 points.

                    1. KAPTAIN KANE
                      • 2 Years
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      This

                    2. Eat my goal!
                        7 days, 7 hours ago

                        Not sure how your point is contrary to mine.

                  3. NUFCAndrew
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    Those going with Vardy, are you going for one of Perez/Maddison/Tielemans as well?

                    1. cravencottage
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      yes, probably Perez, but will decide after pre- season

                    2. Bragazeti
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 1 Year
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      Tielemans has been well priced. I guess your question will be well answered once we see how Perez fits in

                  4. Scotty B
                    • 7 Years
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    If Stones looks like he is going to be a starter this will 100% be my team..

                    Alisson
                    Coleman Walker VVD Stones Digne
                    Salah Siggy Sterling
                    King Wilson

                    Norris Dendonker Guendouzi Nketia

                    1. Epic Fail ⚽ 墅
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      You didn't thank us for answering your other questions(s)

                      1. Scotty B
                        • 7 Years
                        7 days, 7 hours ago

                        Thank you so much

                    2. KAPTAIN KANE
                      • 2 Years
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      Don't see the value in Allison in goal, downgrade and get another one of the Holy trinity

                    3. TorresMagic™ - bcvy39
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 10 Years
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      It won't even be your team tomorrow.

                    4. statenisland
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 3 Years
                      7 days, 6 hours ago

                      I'm working with predicted scores and I'm predicting that my team will be 150 points better than this and I'm still tinkering. I suspect you'll be tinkering again 🙂

                  5. I Member
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    I don't think I've seen David Silva in a single team. Minutes possibly a worry at his age but he surely has the ability to make a mockery of that 7.5m price tag.

                    1. Pigeon
                      • 2 Years
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      Fraser at the same price is just a superior option

                      1. The 5% Team
                        • 1 Year
                        7 days, 7 hours ago

                        yeah...there are a few options at other teams that are better, even some at 7m

                        If I had to choose between D or B Silva, I do think I want David Silva though

                    2. Bragazeti
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 1 Year
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      Well said. Definitely one to consider. He should be City's captain as well

                    3. pingissimus
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      7 days, 6 hours ago

                      I wonder whether he’ll be competing with Bilva for a spot. This is his last time around and it’s somewhere Bilva could make his own. Pep planning the succession?

                  6. Livers XI
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    Is anyone looking at Bobby Firmino had a very good Copa America

                    1. KAPTAIN KANE
                      • 2 Years
                      7 days, 7 hours ago

                      No, takes up a pool spot and Vardy looking like better value

                  7. Worsle90
                    • 2 Years
                    7 days, 7 hours ago

                    Going to settle on this until end of pre-season. Would appreciate as much food for thought as possible!

                    Ryan,
                    TAA, VVD, Digne, Zinchenko, Shaw
                    Salah, Sterling, KDB
                    King, DCL

                    Button, Noble, Dendoncker, Greenwood

                    £0.5m ITB for DCL - Deulofeu or Zinchenko to Mendy.

                    Please opine!