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Attractive price boosts Tielemans’ appeal

Leicester City’s permanent signing of Youri Tielemans (£6.5m) continues to boost interest in their assets for the start of the 2019/20 season.

Fantasy Premier League managers had already been considering Jamie Vardy (£9.0m) and James Maddison (£7.0m) so far in the summer, but the cheaper Tielemans will now rival those two – as well as new singing Ayoze Perez (£6.5m) – for inclusion in our squads.

In this latest Scout Report article, we will analyse the Belgian’s exploits during his loan spell at Leicester last season and assess his potential for the 2019/20 campaign.

Later today, we will have a more in-depth look at Tielemans’ numbers and how they stand up to Maddison’s in particular in an article for Fantasy Football Scout members.

The History and Statistics

Tielemans has been the subject of interest from Europe’s top clubs for some years

Tielemans has been one of the most promising midfield prospects of European football in recent years.

Still only 22-years-old, the Belgian has already made over 250 senior appearances across his country’s top flight as well as Ligue 1 and, as of February 2019, the Premier League too.

Between 2013 and 2017, Tielemans was at Anderlecht, where he scored 35 goals in 185 appearances in all competitions.

His last campaign in Belgium saw him net five times in 15 European appearances.

That’s what drew attention to him from the bigger clubs on the continent and earned him a move to AS Monaco.

Tielemans did not have quite so much success in Ligue 1, scoring just five times in 47 league matches for Monaco.

However, that didn’t stop him hitting the ground running when he arrived in Leicester back in January of this year.

It took Tielemans just three games to get his first attacking return for the Foxes, providing an assist in a 2-1 win over Brighton in Gameweek 28.

That started an incredible run of reliability for the Belgian international as he went on to involve himself in eight goals in the next nine Gameweeks.

In fact, between his debut in Gameweek 26 and the end of the campaign, only Vardy (12) secured more attacking returns than Tielemans (eight).

Three of those were his own goals, with a further five coming from four regular assists and one of the Fantasy variety, a deflected cross to Wes Morgan (£4.5m) against Burnley in Gameweek 31.

During that time, Maddison was the next most central figure to Leicester’s FPL developments, scoring twice and assisting three times (five goal involvements).

That was three fewer than Tielemans despite playing 27 more minutes than him between Gameweeks 26 and 38.

So the question moving forward into the new campaign is whether or not the Belgian can continue to outperform Maddison, given that he already offers a £0.5m saving.

A closer inspection of the underlying statistics shows an interesting story, revealing that it’s not an open and shut case when we compare Tielemans against his now-permanent colleagues towards the back end of last season.

Player Mins per shot Mins per shot in the box Mins per shot on target Mins per chance created
James Maddison 31.9 124.2 111.8 26
Harvey Barnes 25.8 34.8 114.4 57.2
Jamie Vardy 29.8 33.4 64.8 64.8
Youri Tielemans 35.2 155.9 90.9 68.2

We discuss Perez’s underlying numbers, meanwhile, in a piece written shortly after his move from Newcastle.

The Prospects

Tielemans’ underlying statistics compared to his Leicester colleagues were not quite as impressive as first expected

As you can see from the table above, Tielemans did not come out on top for any of the attacking statistics we used to compare him against his key team-mates.

Maddison created more chances than any Leicester player between Gameweeks 26 and 38, averaging one every 26 minutes.

The fact that he has almost complete control of corners and free-kicks will have played a big part in this.

Next up was Harvey Barnes (£6.0m), who fashioned one every 57.2 minutes.

Even centre-forward Vardy averaged a better minutes per chance created than Tielemans’ 68.2.

That’s not to say that the Belgian was not an important part of the team though. In fact, no Leicester player created more big chances than Tielemans during his time at the club last season.

Recording a total of six, the same number as Ricardo Pereira (£6.0m), meant that the Belgian averaged a big chance created every 181 minutes.

When studying the goal threat, we can see again that Maddison was shooting more often than Tielemans too, as was Barnes and, not surprisingly, Vardy.

The Foxes’ talismanic striker was obviously top for minutes per shot in the box (33.4) too and, out of these four key team-mates, Tielemans actually came out worse in that department, averaging a shot in the box every 155.9 minutes.

Tielemans may have to work hard to sustain his form from the end of 2018/19 in the new campaign

Perhaps it’s possible then that such a run as he produced at the end of last season, in which he secured eight attacking returns in nine Gameweeks, is somewhat unsustainable at the start of 2019/20.

What these pieces of information mean for Tielemans’ expected goals (xG) is something we will have to save for our upcoming Members-only article.

How his underlying translates into xG, and those of his colleagues will give us the full picture of what use Tielemans will be to Fantasy managers this season.

As that data is a big part of our Membership package, only those signed up for the 2019/20 campaign will be able to read our analysis of it, coming later today.

While Tielemans doesn’t hold up as favourably as we’d hoped when it comes to the raw underlying statistics, there are, of course, plenty of positives about the player.

In particular, he seems to have advantages over Maddison and Barnes in terms of security of place in the team.

For the majority of Tielemans’ time at Leicester, he was stationed in a central midfield pairing of a four-man bank, enjoying consistent time in the same role.

However, while he was in that role, Brendan Rodgers experimented with different roles for the fifth midfield man.

Sometimes Maddison was deployed as a number 10 behind Vardy in a 4-4-1-1, while at others, Wilfried Ndidi sat behind the midfield in a 4-1-4-1.

Furthermore, Maddison was also moved into several positions within the midfield four at times, either in the middle with Tielemans, or in the place of Barnes on the left flank of it.

Either way, compared to those two midfield team-mates, Tielemans held his position while the others shifted around him.

That is certainly to his credit as it would have almost certainly contributed to his consistent return of FPL points compared to Maddison and Barnes.

Crucially, the £6.5m price-tag is the key appeal of Tielemans though.

The £0.5m over Barnes is worth paying given that he is considerably more assured of a start than the Englishman, while he still offers a £0.5m saving against Maddison, who he outscored in his time at Leicester in 2018/19.

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602 Comments Post a Comment
  1. jtreble
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    9 days, 21 hours ago

    Any truth to the rumour that Rhian Brewster will start the season for LIV in place of Mane and/or Firmino?

    1. Andy'81
      • 1 Year
      9 days, 21 hours ago

      I doubt Brewster's ahead of Origi just yet.

      1. jtreble
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        It sounds like Brewster is going to play on LIV’s US tour. Always nice to see rookies get a chance.

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      9 days, 21 hours ago

      Klopp's said he won't buy an expensive covering striker so that Brewster gets some minutes. That's all.

  2. Pukki Party
    • 2 Years
    9 days, 21 hours ago

    Thoughts?

    Ryan
    TAA Robertson Digne
    Salah Sterling Siggy Tielemans Groß
    King Jota

    Button Kiko Kelly 4.5

    Going VvD over Robbo and 4.5 def if no 4.0 defender look like starting.

    Cheers

    1. Real Socialad
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        I've rated this team so many times I've forgotten what I think about it

      • ROLLING THE DICE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        Not a fan of King or Jota, good aside from that.

    2. Christina.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 days, 21 hours ago

      Should not take any longer than 5 mins to slap a team together.

      4.5m
      4.5m - Robbo-Digne-VvD
      Salah-Sterling-Moura-Siggy-Tielemans
      Wilson

      1. Real Socialad
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Yes, that is good team

        • Warby84
          • 4 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          If Pope is number 1 then he’s a no brainer

        • Christina.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Wilson->King...gives you Ederson

        • Lingardium leviousa
          • 6 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Tielemans and Wilson? Unsure

          1. ROLLING THE DICE
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            Wilson close to signing a new deal - when fit he's great.

            1. Lingardium leviousa
              • 6 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Good player, would prefer a more premium player though for a forward

              1. Christina.
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 days, 20 hours ago

                does it matter? as long as he scores pts.

                1. Christina.
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  9 days, 20 hours ago

                  of all the forwards only Auba, Vardy, kun and Jimmy scored more than him last yr.

                  1. Christina.
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    9 days, 20 hours ago

                    Tielemand scored same PPG as Fraser & Siggy last season. More than both Silvas from City, Richarlison and Eriksen.

                    1. Lingardium leviousa
                      • 6 Years
                      9 days, 20 hours ago

                      Would rather maddison or Perez over him anyway

                    2. Lord Tachanka
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 2 Years
                      9 days, 19 hours ago

                      It’s not sustainable though. He’s not getting 30+ returns in a season.

      2. AJ24
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        RMT Please

        Begovic, Heaton

        TAA, Laporte, Duffy, Kelly, Targett

        Salah, B Silva, Sigurdson, Tielemans, Hayden

        Kane, King, Jimenez

        Thanks!

        1. CROCosta
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Begovic not nailed and even if nailed I would not go near BOU defense except for 4.5 bench fodder - 11th rotating player.
          Would downgrade Jimenez and upgrade GK and 1 defender

          1. Halas it's Salah
            • 5 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            Jimenez-Jota
            Heaton-Pickford

          2. AJ24
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            9 days, 19 hours ago

            Thank you - will rework
            I did think Begovic wasnt ideal!

        2. Bocaginge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          9 days, 20 hours ago

          I think Brighton will be decent for going forward next season but I'd expect their defence to suffer as a result. With that in mind I'd say that Duffy is a punt that might not work out. Is your plan to play a 3 man defence with Duffy/Kelly/Targett rotating depending on promising fixtures?
          As mentioned above, Begovic isn't nailed on and even if he is Bournemouth aren't known for their clean sheet potential (despite their favourable early fixtures). Heaton isn't nailed on either, plus Bournemouth and Burnley don't really have a favourable rotation in terms of fixtures.
          Midfield looks alright and forward line is decent although I'd expect Jimenez to be rested for first week or two (plus Wolves don't really have a good opening schedule)

          1. AJ24
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            9 days, 19 hours ago

            Thanks for this - will get rid of Beg and rethink GKs and Jimenez
            Yes thr thought would be the play TAA and Laporte and chose the 3rd def between the rest!

      3. Halas it's Salah
        • 5 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        Can i get a rating on my team so far?

        Ryan
        Vvd Taa Coleman Mendy
        Salah Kante Richarlison Sterling
        King Vardy
        Button A Smith Long Dendonker

        1. Halas it's Salah
          • 5 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Cheers!
          Some great early teams on here but also a lot of early field fodder too, im hoping im not n the latter.

        2. Bartowski
          • 8 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          No to Mendy and Kante. Other than that its good although I don't understand everyones obsession with Ryan...

          1. Halas it's Salah
            • 5 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            Many thanks!
            I dont think there is much out tbere in midfield for 5.0 and Kante just ticks that box.And this afgorded me Stetling rather than Bilva.
            Ryan-Price and early fixtures are the appeal for myself as around gw3 i normally activate early wc

            1. Halas it's Salah
              • 5 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Excuse the spelling mitsakes \○/

            2. Bartowski
              • 8 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              True but if Zinch looks like nailing the left spot you can get him for 5.5 and upgrade Kante a smidge.

              1. Halas it's Salah
                • 5 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                It was only last season and maybe even still that Barca and Real Madrid showed the intetest in Kante as their holding Midfielder!
                He is most owened atm in that price category
                Yet when he is in any team everyone suggests swapping him out.
                Im confused.com

                1. Bartowski
                  • 8 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  He will be back to his deep holding role this season where he doesn't get any points,

                  1. Slouch87
                    • 3 Years
                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                    Agree . Sarri was wrong to expect him to perform a different role.

                    1. Ask Yourself
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 3 Years
                      9 days, 21 hours ago

                      Yeah he’ll be back but harsh to say he was wrong considering he played a big part in helping Chelsea come 3rd in the league and winning europa league. He really couldn’t have done much more than that surely

                      1. Slouch87
                        • 3 Years
                        9 days, 21 hours ago

                        I just don't think that Sarri utilised the players at his disposal b6 playing to their relative strengths. RLC and CHO would have added a lot more in my opinion.

                        1. Ask Yourself
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 3 Years
                          9 days, 20 hours ago

                          I see what u mean but he is a very particular manager and it may seem weird but it is undeniably effective

                          1. Slouch87
                            • 3 Years
                            9 days, 20 hours ago

                            True he probably got more out of the squad than expected . It was a strange atmosphere at The Bridge last season and with the transfer situation this one will not be easy.

        3. UptheBlues
          • 4 Years
          9 days, 20 hours ago

          0.5 over budget

      4. The Overthinker
        • 2 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        CONTRACT OFFERED:
        Today Newcastle have offered a contract to former Arsenal and Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck. Being told talks will continue with a meeting planned in coming days #NUFC https://t.co/VdNv7rarhS

        1. Skloppy Kops
          • 4 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          They should have gotten Studge also.. and try to rotate their injuries off-time.

          1. Skull And Gnomes 9
            • 1 Year
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            😆

        2. Differential (c)
          • 3 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Magpies going from a duo of Rondon-Ayoze to Muto-Welbeck.

          Rafa has well and truly left the building.

        3. Andy'81
          • 1 Year
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Most likely BS, we still don't have a manager and I'm not so sure that we'd be offering the wages Welbeck would like.

      5. Tcheco
        • 2 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        A. KDB & Vardy

        B. Sterling & Tielemans

        1. Differential (c)
          • 3 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          B, I'd really want Sterling if I didn't have to sacrifice other things.

        2. SoccerBoi69
          • 1 Year
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          A, mostly because I like the value (and risk) of KDB.

        3. Miguel Sanchez
          • 2 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          A

      6. Differential (c)
        • 3 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        How's this effort?

        Lloris
        TAA Walker Digne Holebas
        Salah DeBruyne Sigurdsson Tielemans
        Aubameyang Adams

        Button Dendoncker Kelly Greenwood

        0.0m ITB

        Thoughts?

        1. Warby84
          • 4 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          I started with Auba last year and he was really frustrating, interesting to see how Adams does.. Lloris was epic for me last year manage to have him during the 2 own saves vs Leicester and Arsenal

          1. Warby84
            • 4 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            Pen saves I mean

            1. Differential (c)
              • 3 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              I really wanted Pickford, but the EVE double defense didn't seem worth it, so had to go for either DDG or LLoris. Could swing either way, really, depends on whether David gets back in form.
              Auba, well, it was between Kane and Auba, really. Decided to get Auba for GW1 and 2 and switch to Kane in GW3. That way I avoid the Spurs game with City. Captaincy should be something like this . .

              GW1 Salah
              GW2 Auba
              GW3 Kane
              GW4 Salah

              1. Warby84
                • 4 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Newcastle in disarray think Arsenal could batter them, what about Laca instead, save 1.5m? Although I suppose you can’t revert back to another premium..

                1. Differential (c)
                  • 3 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Its the price point, I'd have the option to revert to a 9,5 if the premiums fail early on. If I pick Laca i could be potentially stuck with him if he flops and need to use 2 FTs to get to that 11.0 price point.

                  Cheers, mate. Yeah, Magpies in disarray is what does it for me, and Kane's GW2 fixture.

              2. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Overthinking? One reason I lost Sterling for KdB is because I realised I should perma-cap Salah.

                1. Differential (c)
                  • 3 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Could very much end up keeping Auba if Kane looks off and the August curse rears its head again. Nah, I think Auba vs Burnley is a good fixture, and I'd cap him over Salah vs Saints.

        2. Ask Yourself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          I forgot about auba. Makes that captaincy rotation great

          1. Differential (c)
            • 3 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            Seems very underrated here at FFS, but actually is just a mere 5.0% off Kane in the overall game.
            Auba - 16%
            Kane - 21%

      7. Warby84
        • 4 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        Pope |Button
        Trent Robertson Digne Cathcart |Fredericks
        Salah Sterling Tielemans Zaha |Dendoncker
        Vardy King |Greenwood

        Current squad, would like Wilson instead of King.. any thoughts on this?

        1. Tommyg
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Almost exactly the same as mine. So I like it.

        2. Differential (c)
          • 3 Years
          9 days, 21 hours ago

          Looks alright. I'm team "premium striker" at the moment, but hey, could switch to Vardy as the expensive striker.
          Overall a good team.

      8. Kimmich
        • 2 Years
        9 days, 21 hours ago

        Aguero / Salah / KdB team opinions?

        Ryan
        VVD - Coleman - Zinchenko
        Salah - KdB - Zaha - Perez - Yarmolenko
        Aguero - Jiménez.

        (Button - Balbuena - Kelly - Wickham)

        1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            Quite like it. Would personally downgrade Jimenez to a ~6.5 and invest that money elsewhere, wolves are a wait and see with their busier schedule and thin depth

            1. Kimmich
              • 2 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Yeah I can agree with this, would free up a mil, could do Yarmo > Brooks and Coleman > Digne.

            2. Warby84
              • 4 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Yep you could get Trent or Robertson or even both of you downgrade Jimi

              1. Kimmich
                • 2 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                I’m not keen on many of the 6.5 or lower options at the minute, weird one but probably have to gamble.

            3. Kimmich
              • 2 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              How about Digne - Brooks and Deeney instead of Coleman, Yarmo, Jimenez?

              1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Yeah that looks nice. Any reason for going Deeney over Deu?

                  1. Kimmich
                    • 2 Years
                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                    Pens and Deulofeu’s position change probably swing it.

          • Bartowski
            • 8 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            Am I the only one waiting for FPL to pick up their arse and add Tammy Abraham to the game so I can do my team properly?!

            1. Kimmich
              • 2 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Nope, if Tammy looks like starting I’ll be interested.

          • Bobby Reds
            • 8 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            a) Brooks & Wesley
            or
            b) Grealish & King

            I'm leaning towards a) tbh, what you chaps reckon?

            1. Kimmich
              • 2 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              A if I had to pick, not keen on King when Wilson is fit however Wesley is a complete unknown to me.

              1. Bobby Reds
                • 8 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Cheers, I'm not keen on King full stop tbh

          • Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            First draft, feel free to give it a good kicking.

            Ryan - (Button)
            Robertson - Digne - Coleman - (Dunk - Kelly)
            Mané - Fraser - Zaha - Kanté - (Dendoncker)
            Auba - Kane - Deulofeu

            Captains armband to switch between Auba and Kane depending on home games is the plan.

            1. Kimmich
              • 2 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Wouldn’t pick Kante, likely to return even deeper under Lamps.

              1. Boris Bodega
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Yeah that's the only weak link. I have got an extra 0.5 so can replace hom with a 5.5m MF. Any suggestions?

                1. Kimmich
                  • 2 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Probably try and stretch to 6.0 there’s Yarmo, JWP, Trossard, Grealish who look okay. At 5.5 it looks a bit slim. Djenepo or El Ghazi probably. Even Norwood at 5.0 would be better than Kante imo.

            2. Skloppy Kops
              • 4 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Kane is a diesel man, will take some 5-6gws to find his feet.
              Cap on Mané I guess. But will need to see when he is released from African Cup

              1. Boris Bodega
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Ahh bugger forgot about that.

            3. Rupert The Horse
              • 6 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Why would you go Kante?
              No City is interesting.

              1. Boris Bodega
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                I had KDB in place of Mané at first, but prefer to go without City rather than Liverpool.

                1. Rupert The Horse
                  • 6 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Maybe down grade Auba.
                  Team is too light.

            4. scubasmithy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 3 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              no salah and no sterling is extremely bold, possibly reckless

          • Skloppy Kops
            • 4 Years
            9 days, 21 hours ago

            Finding it difficult to line up 2 star players in a team this year..

            Ederson
            Robbo - Digne - Azpi - Kiko - Diop
            Salah - FAnderson - Pedro - Richa - Dendonker
            Wilson - Rash - Sharp

            Is that ok to start with?

            1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                One of those where you wonder where all the money went

                1. Brosstan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  9 days, 20 hours ago

                  It went on trashford

              • The 5% Team
                • 1 Year
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                lots of (imo) overpriced players like Wilson, Rash, Pedro, Richa

              • scubasmithy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Wilson to king
                I'd avoid United
                FAnderson not worth it
                Richarlison - better off with Siggy I thinkj

              • Kung Fu Football
                • 4 Years
                9 days, 20 hours ago

                3/10...rip it up and start again!!

            2. Warby84
              • 4 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Perez was booed by his own fans at the start of last season! Any magpies she’s a light on this? I’m going to avoid to begin with as I’m unsure, tielemans even though never owned him was epic last season, so think I’m leaning towards Youri..

              1. Tommyg
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Yeah not a got a good record of starting seasons well. I'm gonna have a watching brief on him.

            3. CROCosta
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              I see a lot of teams with Vardy/LEI mids and I keep wondering why?
              - Only 3/8 good fixtures at the start of the season
              - Great team with plenty attack minded players = sharing points for goals and assist, anyone of Vardy/Maddison/Perez/Tielmans/Barnes/Pereira/Chilwell are capable of scoring/assisting and I hate investing in team when goals are spread out between players (except in Man City as they ship 4+ goals with ease each gw)
              - Even though mids are priced nicely (all in 6-7 range) I would rather go for someone like Zaha, Felipe Anderson, or maybe even Redmond who are key players for their clubs and will certainly be included in higher % of goals their teams score then either one of Leicester players (at least for start of season)
              - If one of the players proves to be best of the bunch/ most attacking / in form etc by gw8 only then I will start considering them but until that point whole team is a big NO for me even though I think LEI could finish top6 or even top4 this year.

              What are your thoughts and reasoning behind picking LEI mids at the start of season?

              1. Bartowski
                • 8 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Form at the end of last season is a factor.

              2. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                The so-called 'bad fixtures' include Chelsea and Man United. I wouldn't be surprised if Leicester finish above them.

                1. CROCosta
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  If they were playing at home sure but away I do not see them scoring more then 1 goal in either of those games

                  1. Slouch87
                    • 3 Years
                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                    Under this manager they will attack . Man Utd defence is cack , Chelsea with no Rudiger and potentially weak LHS defensively.

              3. Kopkloppers
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Good point made
                Vardy is there due to 2 mil cheaper than big hitter.
                Perez Tiel wait and see

              4. Slouch87
                • 3 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                They will be a very attacking team and look full of goals. For the prices they represent exceptional value for money . Vardy has proved himself in the past to be pretty fixture proof. The others you mention are in teams which are likely to create far fewer chances and therefore I believe that their points ceilings are lower. I am happy to gamble on Vardy plus one other.

                1. CROCosta
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Agree on Vardy, he is the best option. I would say he is a premium player priced cheaper then other premiums and has proven his consistency for the last couple of years and is least succeptable to rotation, if I was going for any LEI players my first 2 picks would be Vardy and Chilwell

              5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Puel was sacked on the 24th Feb

                Vardy scored 10 and setup 1 in the following 11 premier league games (that spell included games against Spurs, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea)

                For context - he scored 8 and setup 1 in the prior 23 appearances under Puel lol

                He’s in full on beast mode under Brodge - Rodger’s equivalent of Suarez from the Liverpool days

                1. Rupert The Horse
                  • 6 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Some proper sense.

                2. avfc82
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  His creativity massively upped once Rodgers was appointed too.

                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    9 days, 20 hours ago

                    Yep - he was one of the first names on my teamsheet even pre-prices - sometimes you just “know” when a player, a system, and a manager all dovetail to create an extremely lethal FPL asset (think CR7, Sanchez, Suarez, Salah, Sterling etc)

                    I’m not saying Vardy is going to score 250 points, or possibly even 200 depending on how many games he gets - but I think he’s in that bucket of extreme potential this year

                    He’s older now so fitness will be his main enemy i’d Imagine - if he gets games he’ll get points imo

              6. Skull And Gnomes 9
                • 1 Year
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Brendon's found the key to bring out the best in Vardy (a player I dislike) I really can't find a better striker atm and his understanding with Maddie is flourishing.
                Made some shrewd moves too, I can't convince myself on any downside either, though I've tried hard.

                1. Slouch87
                  • 3 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  I think Mrs Vardy likes him.

                  1. Skull And Gnomes 9
                    • 1 Year
                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                    £££ 🙂

                    1. toerag
                      • 8 Years
                      9 days, 21 hours ago

                      hahahahh just about to do this 😆

                    2. Slouch87
                      • 3 Years
                      9 days, 21 hours ago

                      Don't think it's for his looks. ☺

                        1. toerag
                          • 8 Years
                          9 days, 20 hours ago

                          😆 😆

                        2. Skull And Gnomes 9
                          • 1 Year
                          9 days, 20 hours ago

                          Hehehe! Bloody loved Steptoe me.

              7. CROCosta
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                I understand all the love for Vardy and would like to get him in my team but that would require a downgrade from Sterling to KDB. But what about Tielmans/Mads/Perez whats with them? Why are people considering them over other mid tier midfield options like Anderson/Zaha/Siggy/Fraser/Mili/Redmond/Brooks.

                1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  9 days, 20 hours ago

                  To be honest I think (imo) the ideal FPL attacking unit for this season starts with Salah, Sterling, Vardy, then you work backwards... you don’t try to crowbar Vardy in at the end

                  1. CROCosta
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 1 Year
                    9 days, 20 hours ago

                    I have one 4-4-2 draft for this:
                    Pope
                    Robbo-VVD-Digne-Coleman
                    Salah-Sterling-Zaha-FAnderson
                    Vardy-DCL
                    4.0-Kelly-Dendocker-4.5

                    I don't like that it has no BOU players and the flexibility is much worse then with my 4-5-1 team due to 2x7.0mids and my back 4 is pretty much nailed in all of my drafts.
                    Current draft for reference:
                    Pope
                    Robbo-VVD-Digne-Coleman
                    Salah-Sterling-Siggy-Fraser-Zaha
                    King
                    4.0-Kelly-4.5-4.5

                    So basically the trade of is:
                    A) Vardy, DCL and FAnderson + better first 4.5 sub
                    B) Siggy, Fraser and King

            4. Farabro
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Hey lads which one :
              a. DCL-Perez-Digne
              b. KDB-Hayden-Coleman

              thx

              1. avfc82
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                I like B.

              2. Kopkloppers
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                b

              3. Differential (c)
                • 3 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                B

            5. SADIO SANÉ
              • 4 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              I'd be surprised if Mane doesn't make the AFCON final, wonder if that will leave him short for GW1 ... would Shaqiri or Origi be more likely to get that spot?

              1. The 5% Team
                • 1 Year
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Shaqiri is injured, so Origi then maybe

                1. SADIO SANÉ
                  • 4 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  oop completely missed that

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                    Don't forget the Ox

            6. Differential (c)
              • 3 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              Is the Erik Pieters signing a danger to Taylor's spot in the XI at Burnley?

              1. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 6 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Backup, I'd have thought. I'm happy to have Taylor in my squad for a few weeks at least.

            7. Boris Bodega
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              9 days, 21 hours ago

              a) Salah + 4.5 mid
              b) KDB + F Anderson

              1. Real Socialad
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  B.

              2. Lingardium leviousa
                • 6 Years
                9 days, 21 hours ago

                Easily one of the most boring transfer windows ever, sad times

                1. Slouch87
                  • 3 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Lol . Weeks to go yet.

                  1. Lingardium leviousa
                    • 6 Years
                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                    I know ya but still boring so far nonetheless haha

                2. THFC4LIFE
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 2 Years
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Over 4 weeks left and lots of players not returned for pre season yet

                  1. Lingardium leviousa
                    • 6 Years
                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                    Of course it could get exciting but do clubs really want big names near the end of the window that lack match sharpness and lacking team chdmistry?

                    1. THFC4LIFE
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 2 Years
                      9 days, 21 hours ago

                      The managers probably don’t, but the men at the clubs spending the money want the best deals

                      1. Lingardium leviousa
                        • 6 Years
                        9 days, 21 hours ago

                        Well the best deals for the men spending the money realistically is spending no money haha.

                3. The 5% Team
                  • 1 Year
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Doesn't seem we get to see action from Chelsea (obv) and Liverpool this summer

                  1. Lingardium leviousa
                    • 6 Years
                    9 days, 20 hours ago

                    Ya sadly, not a Liverpool myself but was hoping they'd bring in 1 or 2 players in order to pass City, looking at city's bench is just ridiculous compared to every other teams.

                    1. The 5% Team
                      • 1 Year
                      9 days, 20 hours ago

                      they do have Gomez and Ox coming back from injuries, but I agree

                      I guess Arsenal and ManUtd the most likely to see some changes in squads

                4. Rupert The Horse
                  • 6 Years
                  9 days, 20 hours ago

                  Hasn't really started yet.

              3. Fordy40
                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                  Lots of teams, including mine, that have Zaha - but I’m now thinking he won’t be starting the season after Cup of Nations, possibly the same with Mane

                  1. Real Socialad
                      9 days, 21 hours ago

                      I think anyone still at AFCON is looking unlikely to be in squads for week 1 and probably 2. I'd avoid them until the first international break. Players coming back from the finals of Copa America may also create a slight issue in their selections

                    • Andy_Social
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 6 Years
                      9 days, 21 hours ago

                      Correct. I brought Salah into my squad when Egypt went out, but no Mane or Zaha for me for now.

                  2. Real Socialad
                      9 days, 21 hours ago

                      Tried to create a team as far from the template as possible (but still create a reasonable team) to try and start more debates and give a bit of food for thought in these threads.
                      RIP IT APART!

                      Kepa - Pope
                      Azpi - Holebas - Koscielny - Tarkowski - Morgan
                      Mane - Eriksen - Ozil - Willian - Neves
                      Auba - Barnes - Deeney

                      1. Jarvish
                        • 4 Years
                        9 days, 21 hours ago

                        People moan about players/teams being too "template" - but they are template for a reason.

                        1. Real Socialad
                            9 days, 21 hours ago

                            I'm more moaning about the fact everyone posts teams in the comments that, barring one or two, are usually teams that always contain the same players. This team is designed to make people assess the potential merits of other players as well and generally present something different from what everyone else is choosing

                            1. Jarvish
                              • 4 Years
                              9 days, 21 hours ago

                              Agree with that - typical FFS RMT:

                              Template Template
                              Template Template Template Template Template
                              Non-Template Template Template Template Template
                              Template Template Template

                              All replies: swap Non-Template for Template.

                              1. Real Socialad
                                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                                  Ryan
                                  Robbo VVD TAA Digne (Fodder)
                                  Salah Sterling Siggy (Dendocker Fodder)
                                  Wilson Jimenez King/DCL

                                  I know the money doesn't add up but still. This is a good team. Most think this is a good team. Now do something else

                          • Lingardium leviousa
                            • 6 Years
                            9 days, 21 hours ago

                            Probably start again lad tbh, not really sure where the strength in that team lies... Maybe auba at the minute?

                          • Andy_Social
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 6 Years
                            9 days, 21 hours ago

                            rrrrrrrripppppp

                            Are you going to rotate Kepa? Save 0.5 on fodder-keeper (doesn't have to be cliche Button)
                            Arsenal defence - allergic to clean sheets
                            If Maguire goes maybe Evans/Morgan line up - if Brendan doesn't spend the money. Unlikely, imo.
                            Mane - will he be ready for GW1 if he plays in the AfCon final?
                            Eriksen - wants to leave
                            Ozil - manager hates him
                            Barnes - JRod just arrived - challenges Barnes and Wood's minutes?

                            Apart from that, i don't like it 🙂

                            1. Real Socialad
                                9 days, 21 hours ago

                                Great. Thanks for those assessments. Seems like Tarkowski and Deeney are keepers tho!

                            2. Slouch87
                              • 3 Years
                              9 days, 21 hours ago

                              Revert to template.

                              1. Real Socialad
                                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                                  I didn't save this team don't worry. My actual team is very template at the moment. Wanted to post this and see if anyone picked out one or two players from this that might be worth including in my actual team. Turns out, that's a no!

                              2. SADIO SANÉ
                                • 4 Years
                                9 days, 21 hours ago

                                not bad, I'd move funds from the bench into the first XI unless you're planning on Bench Boosting early

                              3. Kung Fu Football
                                • 4 Years
                                9 days, 20 hours ago

                                Yuck!! 2/10

                              4. scubasmithy
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 3 Years
                                9 days, 18 hours ago

                                Wow!

                                No City, No Liverpool, No Everton, No Bournemouth......

                                Back 5 is about as bad as you can get.
                                Mane - poor value
                                Eriksen - given the fixtures I think Siggy is better and miles cheaper
                                Ozil - well, its Ozil, enough said
                                Willian - maybe but huge risk chelsea could be utter garbage without Hazard
                                Auba - fair enough
                                Barnse - maybe
                                Deeney - prefer King etc....

                                It's a horror show of a squad

                            3. THFC4LIFE
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 2 Years
                              9 days, 21 hours ago

                              How’s this effort fellas?

                              Ryan
                              TAA Laporte Digne
                              Salah KDB Brooks Perez
                              Kane King Deulofeu

                              Button A.Smith Dendoncker Kelly

                              1. Lingardium leviousa
                                • 6 Years
                                9 days, 21 hours ago

                                Pretty template so good to go, unless u want to spice it up

                              2. Kung Fu Football
                                • 4 Years
                                9 days, 20 hours ago

                                Decent but must admit i do prefer Sterling & Vardy over KDB & Kane.

                            4. Netters2018
                                9 days, 21 hours ago

                                Almost there now, this feels about ready other than pre season monitoring to decide on Burnley GK nod(think it will be Pope) Chelsea line up and if Zinch can nail down the LB spot early and/who starts out of Gomez/Matip (Remove Trippier)

                                Pope or Heaton
                                TAA, Digne, Laporte, Trippier, Adam Smith
                                Salah, Sterling, Brooks
                                Kane, King

                                Bench - Pure fodders with Dendonker as 1st.

                                What are peoples thoughts?

                              • pelle9
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 4 Years
                                9 days, 21 hours ago

                                Current team:

                                Ryan
                                Robbo - TAA - Laporte - Digne
                                Salah - Sterling - Siggy - Tielemans
                                King - Deulofeu

                                Button, Kelly, Dendonkey, Nketiah

                                Thoughts guys ?
                                Thanks.

                                1. Kung Fu Football
                                  • 4 Years
                                  9 days, 20 hours ago

                                  Identical to my current draft except gone Jota over Deulofeu & Wickham as my 4.5 attacking fodder...so it's a 9/10 from me!!

                              • Rupert The Horse
                                • 6 Years
                                9 days, 21 hours ago

                                Just added it up.
                                My back 7 are worth 40.5. Definitely the highest I've ever had.
                                Anyone else gone quite big in defence?

                                1. Real Socialad
                                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                                    I've done my usual 2 premium 2 average 1 cheap

                                  • Slouch87
                                    • 3 Years
                                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                                    I did this intially but didn't like it . Too much cash tied up in a relatively small number of teams. Eggs in one basket.

                                  • toerag
                                    • 8 Years
                                    9 days, 20 hours ago

                                    38.5 atm 🙄

                                  • Kung Fu Football
                                    • 4 Years
                                    9 days, 20 hours ago

                                    39 not too far off, suspect you've just gone with a premium keeper to my Ryan/Button?

                                    1. Rupert The Horse
                                      • 6 Years
                                      9 days, 20 hours ago

                                      Yes, I'm on Ederson and Button.

                                      1. Kung Fu Football
                                        • 4 Years
                                        9 days, 20 hours ago

                                        There it is then, personally never been a fan of premium keepers but obviously does save headache in that department i guess? It's just the loss of an outfield City/Pool spot i dislike more than anything i suppose?

                                  • Sir EFO
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 3 Years
                                    9 days, 19 hours ago

                                    Between 39 and 41.5, difference is Reid to Alonso

                                2. Rotation's Alter Ego
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • Has Moderation Rights
                                  • 7 Years
                                  9 days, 21 hours ago

                                  New player added

                                  Rodriguez at 6m (FWD)

                                  1. Jarvish
                                    • 4 Years
                                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                                    Wood and Rod potentially up front for Burnley - too many jokes, so little time.....

                                    1. Rupert The Horse
                                      • 6 Years
                                      9 days, 20 hours ago

                                      Heheh.

                                  2. Real Socialad
                                      9 days, 20 hours ago

                                      hmmm. I'll pass

                                    • The 5% Team
                                      • 1 Year
                                      9 days, 20 hours ago

                                      decent price I guess

                                    • Ask Yourself
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 3 Years
                                      9 days, 20 hours ago

                                      Add abraham or I will riot

                                      1. toerag
                                        • 8 Years
                                        9 days, 20 hours ago

                                        predictable...

                                      2. Skull And Gnomes 9
                                        • 1 Year
                                        9 days, 20 hours ago

                                        😆

                                  3. Tosa86
                                    • 1 Year
                                    9 days, 21 hours ago

                                    first FPL draft:

                                    ederson- button
                                    Digne - robertson- VVD - reid- kelly
                                    Salah - Siggy - zaha - moutinho - hayden
                                    king - kun - jota

                                    ay suggestion?

                                    Thanks

                                    1. Fordy40
                                        9 days, 20 hours ago

                                        Reid won’t be a starter for West Ham

                                      • Real Socialad
                                          9 days, 20 hours ago

                                          I like it. Its a bit different. Jota I think is a solid pick, Moutinho is interesting and Hayden could offer something. May downgrade Digne to Keane and upgrade Reid to Balb/Diop if you want a starting West Ham defender

                                      • Fordy40
                                          9 days, 21 hours ago

                                          Is Kelly likely to start for Palace ?

                                          1. Real Socialad
                                              9 days, 20 hours ago

                                              No

                                            • Jarvish
                                              • 4 Years
                                              9 days, 20 hours ago

                                              Would be nice wouldn't it! I don't think we'll know the answer until much nearer the start of the season though.

                                              1. Fordy40
                                                  9 days, 20 hours ago

                                                  He’s in 23% of squads !

                                              2. Ask Yourself
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 3 Years
                                                9 days, 20 hours ago

                                                Don’t understand why people think he will be. Rico has a chance on the other hand