Fantasy League

How to prepare for a Fantasy League auction

Last week we alerted you to the relaunch of Fantasy League for the 2019/20 season, with a Q&A with founder Andrew Wainstein and an introduction to the long-running auction-based game.

For those looking to master Fantasy League, we’re lucky enough to have an in-house expert – Fantasy Football Scout site user Clouseau – to help us out.

Clouseau’s previous article looked at the merits and basics of auction-based Fantasy Football based on his two decades of experience playing the Fantasy League game.

This latest feature is the first of a two-part piece which will look in more detail at how to have an effective auction – from prepping in advance through to the big night itself.

Take it away, Clouseau…

The Scene-Setter…

First of all, let me give you the context of this article. For a lot of what you’re about to read, you should put FPL from your mind. Although the advice in this piece should translate to any auction-based fantasy game, I’m looking at it from the perspective of playing Fantasy League (FL), using their traditional scoring system.

Where I talk about FL points, this is based upon three points for a goal and two points for an assist, both irrespective of the scorer’s position, and, for goalkeepers and defenders, one point for an appearance, two points for a clean sheet with -1 point for every goal conceded.

There are no bonus points and, for goalkeepers, no points for saves/penalty saves. Fortunately, there are also no minus points for cards or penalty misses. Furthermore, whilst your league can select any number of permitted transfers, I am assuming that just 20 are allowed for the course of the season, with a starting squad of 15. This puts the focus very much upon the auction rather than your ability to constantly swap players in and out.

Think Long Term!

The principal thing you need to understand if you are a veteran of FPL, but have never played the auction-style before, is that you are looking to select a squad for the full season. As a result of this, you should try to forget about fixtures and Season Tickers because, ideally, all your players will play every team home and away.

Understanding the Player List

Most of the things which make good outfield players good FPL players also make them good Fantasy League players. That’s the good news. What’s slightly less good news is that I tried to do some rudimentary comparisons and analysis to see if there was a common margin/denominator by which FPL points convert readily to FL points; there isn’t. I also specifically said outfield players because goalkeepers throw up a lot of anomalies which I will discuss a little further down.

What I’ve managed to do is break it down by category (and for the purposes of this I have amalgamated full-backs and centre-backs, which are separate categories in Fantasy League, into an amorphous group) and, based mostly on FPL’s ‘premium’ and upper-mid-range players (I may have swapped a few players in and out of the list based on expectations for the coming season), I came up with the following average margins by which FPL points convert to FL points:

Strikers (priced 8.0 and up): 2.7
Midfielders (priced 7.0 and up): 3.6
Defenders (priced 5.5 and up): 4.3
Goalkeepers (priced 5.5 and up): 5.2

Put simply, if your striker scores you 200 FPL points, you can expect them to get you around 74 FL points. However, remember that these are based on averages and the very best players will have margins lower than the average due to their scoring the majority of their points through goals, assists and clean sheets; as an example, both Sergio Aguero and Trent Alexander-Arnold had margins of 2.5. Salah and Sterling had margins of 2.9 and 3.0 respectively, due to their playing in teams which kept a lot of clean sheets and, therefore, got additional points for them in FPL, but still much lower than the mean for midfielders.

Goalkeepers are the real outliers and, with them, it’s doubly important that you understand the difference between a good FPL goalie and a good Fantasy League stopper; remember, there are no points for saves/penalty saves or bonus.

Let me use two examples from last season: Lukasz Fabianski and David de Gea. Fabianski was the fifth-highest-scoring goalkeeper in FPL with 143 points. In Fantasy League he was the 21st ‘best’ goalkeeper with a massive score of -3 points; you’d have been better off picking a non-playing goalkeeper for the season. De Gea similarly scored 120 points in FPL, making him equal-ninth best, but got -2 in FL.

With goalkeepers, notwithstanding De Gea’s horror show last season, you are best sticking to those from the top six clubs and, after that, looking to clubs you hope will keep things tight at the back, not ship a cricket score too frequently and pick up the occasional clean sheet. Don’t be tempted by keepers in sides you know will have shots rained in on them like it’s the Alamo, but where you expect them to make 25 saves a game. That will just end in tears.

Sensible Prices

My first piece talked about setting yourself reasonable maxima for players so that you don’t end up in a bidding war with someone over a player that you both ‘must have’, where you go way beyond what represents good value for money (VFM).

I’m not saying that you should always stick rigidly to your pre-auction plans, and sometimes you’ll have to sacrifice a player you really wanted in order to secure four of the other five upon which you’d set your heart, but remember, your pot of money has to get you the whole squad, not just a couple of players, and whilst there will be those you can pick up for free or for not a great deal, it’s a brave manager who goes all-in on only a handful of players and has 14+ slots to fill with the dregs.

When doing your auction prep, it’s worth thinking about how much players may go for in order that you can sketch out a potential squad for yourself. In my experience, the table below sets out the approximate costs for players by position and ‘quality’, based on % of auction budget (I’ve gone with this rather than absolute prices as different leagues will set different starting budgets):

 

The VFM point above is one I consider to be imperative in having a successful auction and you should always be conscious of the point at which no player is worth the amount you’ll have to spend. No player is guaranteed to score you a certain number of points and whilst certain players increase the likelihood of big scores, these have to be looked at relative to prices and points for other players.

Consider the top three Liverpool scorers from last season: Mohamed Salah, Andrew Robertson and Alexander-Arnold who scored 90, 82 and 75 points respectively in Fantasy League. Salah went for 28% of someone’s pot at my auction, whereas Robertson and Alexander-Arnold went for 10% and 4% respectively. Clearly that won’t happen again but I would expect Salah to be around 32% and the full-backs to be a maximum of 16% each. Based on last season’s scores, the two defenders would get you 157 points to Salah’s 90. Now, of course, this vastly oversimplifies the argument. For starters, it overlooks the fact that you’d have another player, picked up for free, to sit alongside Salah when working out how many points your 32% of budget had bought you. However, the chances of your picking up a freebie who will score you at least 67 points are very, very low. I’m not saying it can’t happen (I remain smug to this day that I picked up an unknown Michael Owen for free at the 1997/98 auction) but just bear in mind when you set yourself an eye-watering budget for a big player that you may be better off spreading the money around.

Starters vs Substitutes

Although picking players you expect to start matches is a good starting point, appreciate that it matters less in Fantasy League where there are, for example, no appearance points for midfielders and forwards. Impact subs at good clubs can easily outscore regular starters in lesser teams.

Leroy Sane is a great example of this. He currently sits in just 3% of FPL squads, reflecting his lack of certainty of starts, even though he was the 10th-highest scoring FPL midfielder. Last season in Fantasy League, he was the fifth-highest-scoring midfielder (and 18th highest in any position) and rightly went for 16% at the auction. Good players playing only 15 minutes per match can easily outscore 90 minutes per match from lesser players or those at lower-placed clubs.

Squad Structure

With Fantasy League giving you up to seven substitute berths (on the Legend package; the squad is fixed at 15 players for Novice and Pro), over which there are no positional restrictions, it can be very tempting to load up on strikers; you can, in principle, have up to ten of them with the Legend package.

A wiser move is to spread your substitutes around: for example, assuming that your starting XI is a 4-3-3 formation, having three strikers, three midfielders and a defender on your bench. There’s no perfect structure until your squad is forming but this is the sort of ballpark for which I aim in my pre-auction prep. Of course, you should keep an open mind and you should never limit yourself by enforcing a certain structure; to use an extreme example, you would never turn down the chance to get Aguero for a good price because you already had your ideal number of strikers, particularly if you were only missing a midfielder from your subs and the only options left in that category were players who only their mothers had heard of.

The caveat I give to this advice is that Fantasy Football is a game loaded with schadenfreude and, in the case of auction-based Fantasy Football, spoiling tactics. Every player you own is a player denied to everyone else. If the average number of strikers per manager is six, your taking ten means that you’ve removed four [presumably] desirable strikers from the pool who are now not available to your fellow managers.

The same can apply to goalkeepers. As you’ll see from my analysis of points by position in Fantasy League vs FPL, good goalkeepers are more of a rarity in the former than they are in the latter. Whilst a second goalkeeper (I would never advise getting a third keeper!) is rarely a boon from a points-scoring perspective, it can leave one of your opposition managers with the unpalatable choice of a goalie who will likely leak goals like a rusty bucket or one who will only ever be played by his club in League Cup games.

Caveat Emptor…..

….. or ‘buyer beware’ for those of you who aren’t lawyers and/or versed in Latin. If you spend your precious money on a player who is crocked or is halfway out of the door, you kiss that money goodbye. Therefore, even if you do very little prep in the run-up to the auction, five minutes of last-minute cramming may well save your season. Check the latest injury situation.

I’m not saying don’t aim to buy players who are currently injured for the short term (see above for ‘think long term’ with your acquisitions), but be aware with your VFM calculations that being out until the end of September means seven games will be missed, almost 20% of the total season.

Similarly, check the gossip columns. The BBC does a handy daily round-up of all the stories from the main papers and outlets, and whilst if every transfer ‘story’ came true half the players around the world would be playing for three clubs simultaneously, you should still bear them in mind.

I learned the painful way 20 years ago when I spent one-third of my auction pot on Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink after he’d had that stellar season with Leeds, only for him to run off to Atletico, leaving me with a gaping hole in my squad and not a penny of my huge investment returned. Back then, I’d have had to buy a paper every day to know this; nowadays, with the proliferation of news and gossip through multiple, free outlets, there’s no excuse for not knowing the latest.

Finally….. Make Lists, Lots of Lists

Lists will smooth and caress your passage to the successful end of your auction. Ok, that may be a slight exaggeration, but lists help with focus in preparation and can act as a vital crutch during the auction, particularly towards the end when your player list, printed from the Fantasy League website, is getting harder and harder to read.

Break down by position the players you really want and maybe break them down again by premium, mid and low; you’ll probably want to ensure that you get at least one from the premium column and avoid delving into the low column as much as possible.

Print out at least two copies of the player list to take with you: one to keep on top where you’ll cross off players as they are bought, and one hidden underneath (away from prying eyes) where you’ll highlight the players you want, preferably using different highlighter pens to denote must-haves, highly desirables and ‘have at a push’.

I will be looking at how to tackle the auction night itself in the not-too-distant future so watch this space.

Clouseau Serious (for which you can read \'stressy\') fantasy football fan. Have been playing the auction-based version with its unique squads (fantasyleague.com) for over 20 years but more recently branched out into FPL. Follow me on Twitter @FFSClouseau

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  1. The Overthinker
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Jules Breach still holidaying

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Bikini pics?

      1. Pumpkinhead
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        😉

  2. Saka Rice
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    rmt please (I know 5 defenders but I can't think of other midfielders/forwards that'll get more points for under 6.5)

    Ryan
    Laporte Zinchenko Robertson VVD Digne
    Fraser Sigurdsson Salah Sterling (4.5)
    King (4.0, 4.0)

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I don't rate King.

      Think Coleman represents better value than Laporte too but nothing wrong with Laporte.

      Solid team, although you'll struggle to find one 4.5 forward, not to mention two!

      1. Exeterslowly
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Greenwood will get minutes this Year and that chap who plays for arsenal but cannot spell his name has also played well so far in pre season games

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Doh, I meant 4.0 forward 😀

          1. Saka Rice
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            yeah that's a typo. I think I have a strong 11 but my concern is my bench. Realistically how important is it to have a good bench player when most of the time a bench player will only score 2 points at most

    2. UnluckyXI
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Downgrade laporte to Kelly freeing up 2.5 then you can have a 6.5 forward or mid.

      I like the team but can't bring myself to do 5 at the back.

      1. Saka Rice
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Is Kelly even a nailed starter though?

        1. Exeterslowly
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          He is if they don’t buy a RB. He also operates as a central def but in all honesty he is just a benchwarmer until the next big thing arrives

          1. Rihanovic
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Disagree.
            Ward is the No. 1 RB.

    3. Andrew
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      There are no 4.0 strikers in the game

      1. Pumpkinhead
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        truuuuuuuuu

      2. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        This...

      3. Saka Rice
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        sorry typo I mean to write 4.5

    4. Budweiser
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      And what happens when Wilson gets a yellow flag? You gonna risk playing with 10? Waste a transfer? What happens if he's out just for 1 week? 1 up top is never a good idea

      1. Budweiser
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        King*

        1. Saka Rice
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          well maybe I should have Kun instead of Sterling? This would also allow me to switch Kun for Kane if Kane starts to perform

          1. Budweiser
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Makes more sense because if Kings out for one week you will still have a playing striker

      2. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Its a good point but Wilson is probably one of the absolute safest picks if you want one up top. Hes 100% nailed

        1. Saka Rice
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I'm hoping Fraser and King can outperform/cover Wilson. I can't justify an extra 1.5 for Wilson when King is also on pens

          1. Brosstan
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Fraser can, King cant

            1. Saka Rice
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              last season he proved he can though so I'm confused why you're so negative about King. In fact, if they both had this years prices last season, I think King outperforms him in value. You cant fault that logic

    5. Exeterslowly
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      That’s a rolls Royce midfield right there! Even if you finish it off with Donck, I don’t think you can afford that team.

      1. Saka Rice
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I can lol just add up the numbers. that team is entirely possible

        1. Exeterslowly
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I know you have a luxury defence and midfield and having king as your only recognised striker might be a fantasy football suicide?

          1. Saka Rice
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Would you have Aguero instead of Sterling and that way you have 2 strikers?

            1. Exeterslowly
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Ooh I like it but for me sterling is on fire and you don’t know what you get with him at the moment. I think he is also well in his thirties as well so pace is not there but that lad can score!

              1. Exeterslowly
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                I meant Aguero is in his thirties not sterling. He is still in his nappies!

  3. Pumpkinhead
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A - Zinc and Wilson

    B - Walker and King +1.0itb

    Ryan
    Coleman, Robbo, VVD, ____
    Salah, Fraser, Siggy, Zaha
    Kane, ____

    1. Bullet Eder
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A. Points over pennies.

  4. MFPL
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Predicted City midfield for this season?

    1. Peter Ouch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Hahah best joke ever mate!!!

    2. Pumpkinhead
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      KDB, Fer, Rotation

      Assuming it's BSilva, Sterling, Aguero up top

    3. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sterling - Bilva - Fernandinho - KdB - Sane/Mahrez/Dilva

      Gundogan will take a few minutes off the middle three too.

    4. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Unpredictable. Probably a few more signings to come before the season starts knowing them as well.

    5. Bullet Eder
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Bernardo, Dilva, Fernandinho/Rodri, KDB, Sterling

  5. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on Lacazette? Been very overlooked in many RMT posts. Played very similar minutes to Kane last year and just outscored him. PPM more value than Kane. Should be more nailed than last season, but does the likes of Nketia breaking through put him at risk of being subbed off after 60mins?

    1. Pumpkinhead
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I'm not in love with the fixtures and for me it's better to look else where. Would prefer Wilson, Vardy

      1. Pumpkinhead
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        (in that price range)

    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I've had Lacazette in most of my drafts, but have Vardy in my latest instead.

      Think he's a great option from the start with those two fixtures. Auba is better, but Laca saving you 1.5m shouldn't be ignored.

    3. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Auba will always be emery’s first choice, laca the one at risk of getting subbed off. If you want an arsenal attacker at all it must be Auba

    4. Skalla
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      No the risk of Emery means he is not nailed and will prob be rotated so can't captain him and there is a few cheaper forwards that will prob match him like Vardy/Wilson.

    5. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I think it may well be as you say, nailed as striker but subbed early.

    6. UnluckyXI
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Watch him for sure but fixtures 3-5 are really tough and I think Wilson, firmino and vardy are more sure starters.

      Depending on arsenal signings he could be competing with nketiah and auba if they bring in zaha and keep Nelson.

      1. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Lacazette was almost fixture proof last season? Scored in some big games.. he is currently in my team, and if I was Emery his performances and work rate would want me to play him week in week out. But I am not Emery. And here lies the problem.

  6. Ask Yourself
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is it just me or does this team look like it’ll be rank 1 by WCGW3?

    BB

    Leno (new) Pope (SOU)

    TAA (NOR) Digne (cpl) KWP (AVL) AMN (new) Kiko (BHA)

    Salah (NOR) Fraser (SHU) Moura (AVL) Brooks (SHU) Pereyra (BRI)

    Auba (new) King (SHU) Origi (NOR)

    1. Pumpkinhead
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      It's different - I'm not a fan personally + I think there may be a bit too much cash on spent on the bench.

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Is a bench boost x

        1. Pumpkinhead
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          BB for GW 1 but then you'll have all that $ on the bench for GWs to come (unless you're going to WC and change the structure)

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah GW3 WC. KWP, Origi and Kiko will be benched and i’ll Probably transfer out Moura for Chelsea mid or King for pukki

            1. Ask Yourself
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              This is for GW2

            2. Pumpkinhead
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Man with a plan! Why not! I always start off so bad, I should be planning something like this too!

              1. Ask Yourself
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                That was my thinking tried a few long term teams just wasn’t happy but seen the team I could potentially get in GW3 and it’s a lot better x

    2. Skalla
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I am planning on being Rank 1 after two GW's, so can maybe give 2nd place with that team! Basically just Kane vs Auba though 🙂

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        new, BUR vs AVL, mci :O

        1. Skalla
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Can always use the full transfer to go Kane to Auba GW2 so AVL BUR even better 🙂

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            new vs AVL :O think newcastle is the better game there Villa are solid man especially if they sign a keeper

  7. No Professionals
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Pope
    TAA VVD Digne Zinchenko
    Salah KDB Fraser Tielemans
    Kane King

    Subs Button Kelly Dendoncker Greenwood

    Would really like sterling but can't do it without ditching kane or starting a 5.0 mid.

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sterling >>>> salah for me. Good team

    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Fraser + KdB + Digne -> Sterling + Brooks + Coleman maybe?

      Good team either way.

      1. No Professionals
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Takes it 1m over

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Oops my bad not sure why I thought 12m - 9.5m = 1.5m...

          Keep what ya have imo.

          1. No Professionals
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Got me all excited as well! Would've been all over those changes.

  8. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is anyone not put off Coleman/Digne if Everton start season without Zouma and Gueye?

    I’ve just checked results last season without Gueye and you can’t really draw any conclusions as it’s a small sample and two games were against Spurs and Man City.

    L1-3 Wolves
    W 1-0 Hud
    L 2-6 Spurs
    L 1-3 Man City
    Drew 1-1 Hud

    1. Pumpkinhead
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Gueye missing out is concerning - He is a work horse in the middle but the fixtures are so good hard not to have one defender in.

    2. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I can take that didn’t buy Digne for CS’s all too much really. Think delph is good enough

    3. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      They're looking to replace Gueye but one to monitor for the start of the season.

      Currently have both full backs but will drop that to one if no replacement signed by GW1

    4. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Nope...

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Gueye leaving would be hugely detrimental to their defensive prospects

      They kept 4 CS in 6 games without zouma last season... It would have been 5 CS in 6 were it not for pickfords last second brain fart in the Derby showing origins freak goal

    6. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Surely they will replace him

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Delph

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I wonder if Delph isn't more of a replacement for mccarthy

        2. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          They were way ahead of me.

        3. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Silva specifically said he wasn't the replacement and they'd need to look elsewhere if Gueye left

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Lee Cattermole

          2. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Oh damn

          3. BigBarn
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Yes, and also said that Delph would give him the option of playing 4-3-3, which would definitely hurt Siggy. Cant see Silva playing Delph and Gomes as a double-pivot so, if we don't replace Gueye, reckon Schneiderlin gets some minutes.

  9. In a Rush
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    6M defender
    6M midfielder or
    6M forward

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Defender for now

    2. Tabasco
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Defender, all day

    3. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yes

    4. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Defender...

    5. In a Rush
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Cheers both I was leaning that way

    6. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Defender.

      But 6M midfielder + 4.5 defender could be better squad, as some 4.5 defenders are worth more than 4.5 midfielders/strikers

  10. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Feels a bit more balanced. Origi a bit of a punt. What you think?

    Pope
    TAA. Digne. Maguire
    Salah(C). Sterling. Siggy. Moura
    Wilson. Jota. Origi
    (Button, Cathcart, Kelly, Dendoncker)

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      It's fine but wouldn't touch Maguire no matter who he's playing for.

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        AWB?

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          United have looked attacking and loose in preseason (I know, only preseason) but I'd rather invest in their attack than their defence. AWB would be the only one I'd go for in their backline as he has attacking potential.

          Personally prefer Coleman, maybe Zinchenko or Davies

          1. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Don’t fancy Coleman with Digne. Agree Zinchenko could work but More risky game time wise

    2. socho
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Maguire slightly too pricey no?

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        AWB perhaps?

  11. socho
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    First XIready for GW1:

    Early WC on GW3:

    Henderson (Pope if he doesnt sign on loan)
    TAA-Robb-AMN
    Gross-Fraser-Siggy-Perez-Salah (c)
    Kane- Wilson

    Any comments?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sexy except gross

  12. Do I Not Like Orange
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is Ben Davies more or less nailed given Rose seems to be getting shopped around by Spurs? I remember him being a great option for a time the season before last, with attacking returns and even some set pieces in his locker. With Trippier out & Rose on his way, I wonder if he could replicate that form.

    1. socho
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Time has passed..it is a bit of a gamble and with tough Spurs fixtures...probably not worth the risk 🙂

    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Definitely an option but Poch loves rotating his full backs more than anyone, fair play if you punt from the start but I'm going with Coleman as he feels safer, albeit in a potentiall worse defence.

  13. Whazza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone with experience of Fan Team? I see they're running a mini-league with 250k prize pool

  14. tropicain
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Hi guys! After a Week of reflxion, here is my 1st "possible" team to begin new season. What do you think about it? Am a bit afraid of not having a "big" forward…

    Pickford - 4.0
    TAA - Digne - Zinchenko - Robbo - (Gibson)
    Salah - Fraser - Siggy - Sané/KDB? - (Dendoncker)

    Wilson - Jota - (Nketiah)

    1. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I would stay away from Sane, go with KDB and you have a nice team here

  15. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    How about this Salah, Sterling Kane team :-

    Ryan (Button)
    VVD Coleman Ake Cathcart (Kelly)
    Salah Sterling Zaha Siggy (Hayden)
    Kane King (Greenwood)

    1. Saka Rice
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      If you're not planning on capping Kane (especially GW1) I wouldn't have him in the squad as two liverpool defenders in my opinion would outperform Kane

  16. rozzo
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Burnley
    TAA VVD Zinchenko O'Connell
    Salah Sterling KDB Perez
    Wilson Jota

    Button Hanley Dendonker Greenwood

    KDB can easily become Son, three heavy hitters in mid who can return 200 plus points.

    I like both Wilson and Jota because they also offer assists. 10 goals and 10 assists for Jota will return good value for 6.5m, something King and the others dont offer.

    Thoughts?

    1. Whazza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Be aware of that Wilson managed a total of 3 assists in his three previous seasons before last one. His expected assists last season was the same as King, just under 3 so he overperformed alot assist-wise last season

  17. Link
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Who do you think is being massively overlooked?

    Not seen many teams with Aguero for the first time in a long time.
    Lacazette for 0.5 more than Vardy
    Pogba
    Maddison
    Spurs/Chelsea defence

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ozil
      Burnley defence

    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Aguero was in my first draft, would love to have him but too scared of Sterling and can't afford both.

      Lacazette is a great option, but so is Vardy. 50/50 call in terms of value from the start as Laca has easier fixtures.

      I have Pogba in my current draft.

      Maddison - is he worth 0.5 more than Tielemans / Perez?

      Spurs / Chelsea defence - overlooked due to Everton's fixtures, and Pool/City being so popular. Not sure we can trust Chelsea defence from the offset under Lamps.

      1. Link
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Agree on your assessment.

        I've only got KDB for City attack and not loving it really. I think Mads is definitely the best shout of the Leicester mids if you have the extra. Tilly much deeper (ordinarily) and Perez a bit unknown at the moment. Think he might play wide right.

    3. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Pogba.

      If he can get back to the level he showed when Ole was appointed, and do it again over a run of 10 or so games, nobody at that price point can match him.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        He's in my team and probably will be come GW1.

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Sent you an email just now Berbs 🙂

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I'll check now 🙂

        2. HamezMace
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          What am I missing?
          Seems to be playing in a two, with Matic, in a 4-2-3-1 formation?
          He has penalties sure, but otherwise chances of attacking returns look slim.

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Yes, that's a factor. I do think he will end up CAM again, but he did make a lot of runs into the box against Inter.

            Btw, can you mail me pls? berbs.forehead@gmail.com

            1. HamezMace
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              It's a wait and see for me.

              Nudes on their way.

              1. ★Kuntheman★
                • 8 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                😆

          2. Irish Madridista ⭐
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I think they'll be attacking and fluid enough that he'll pick up points even in the pivot.

            He loves a "hollywood" through ball into the pace of James/Rashford/Martial/Greenwood etc.

            1. ★Kuntheman★
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              That "hollywood" pass is what impresses me the most, that's a lot of assists waiting to happen with the pace United have in the front. Could also be a lot of hockey assists too though.

              1. Irish Madridista ⭐
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Agreed.

                Would prefer a nailed Martial but going with the "safe" Pogba from the start.

                Rashford is massivley overlooked on here too, but I have my strikers pretty nailed.

                1. ★Kuntheman★
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  At 8.5 I think Rashford presents way better prospects than Pogba if I'm honest. I'd love to have him but I can't fit him at the moment without dropping Kane.

                2. Link
                  • 13 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  I wanted Rashford - but awkward price, and fixtures considered - Wilson appeals

                  I'm on Kane - Wilson - 6 (dcl/adams) at the moment, but I'm still not sure about paying 8m for a Bournemouth striker!

                  1. Andy_Social
                    • 11 Years
                    4 years, 9 months ago

                    For sure you can't afford Rash if you're on Kane, but I've got a lovely team with Rash and Vardy up top.

                    1. Link
                      • 13 Years
                      4 years, 9 months ago

                      Hmmm - I could go Kane - Rash if I went with a 5.5 playing striker every week. Or a 5.5 mid (none appeal)

                      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
                        • 13 Years
                        4 years, 9 months ago

                        Ewwwwwwww 😉

                        (go Greenwood!)

                      2. Andy_Social
                        • 11 Years
                        4 years, 9 months ago

                        That's the problem. There's no one at that price bracket you'd wantstarting every week.

                    2. ★Kuntheman★
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 9 months ago

                      That's what the dilemma is for me as well. Rash+Vardy or Kane+King. On the latter at the moment due to ownership fear haha

      2. Link
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I'm surprised he's not in more drafts considering the amount Siggy/Fraser are in around that price point.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I'm not surprised really, although I've inked him in.
          When FPL opened this season United were a car crash and he was offski. Now he's still supposed to be going to Real. Once it's established he's staying and he continues to tear it up pre-season, his ownership will likely shoot up for the current 8% to double that.

      3. ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I've got my eye on him. It seems more likely that he is going to stay.

        Their fixtures are a weird lot though, not hard but not easy.

      4. avfc82
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        4 goals and 3 assists in Ole's opening 3 matches.

        It didn't stop there either - he returned another 4 goals and 3 assists in the following 8 too, so 8 goals and 6 assists in 11 matches - that's elite midfielder levels of scoring, for 8.5.

        The big question is tho, can he get back to that kind of form? If he does, he'll be in everyone's teams.

    4. Offside
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      GW4 City v Brighton. Aguero’s first hatrick?

    5. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      For me, who's being massively overlooked, for utterly understandable reasons, are United and Chelsea assets.
      Very few De Geas and Kepas (almost none on this site), WanBissaka big with autofills but nothing here, Luiz, Azpi, Alonso - don't see 'em. I suspect as GW1 draws near that will change.

    6. adamtheyido
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Chelsea defence definitely. Aguero, Kane and both Arsenal strikers. Dele. Who ever gets RB slot at Spurs. Barkley is my punt.
      All of these have the potential to go big. But their not in the template as they weren't last seasons best players...

  18. Offside
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ryan (Pope)

    TAA, Laporte, Digne, (Aarons, Kelly)

    Fraser, Salah, Sterling, Perez, (McGinn)

    Vardy, Origi, Greenwood

  19. Alchim1sT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I start doubting Everton defence with Zouma staying at Chelsea und Gueye going to PSG ... are Coleman and Digne still worth it with prob. a lot less CS?

    1. BigBarn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Scroll up, mate.

      1. Alchim1sT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        ty overlooked it 😉

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Bournemouth got 10 so I wouldn't worry, a dozen or so should suffice.

  20. TikiTakaah
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Which one would you prefer:
    A. Digne + 4.5m mid (5-4-1)
    B. Zaha + 4m defender

  21. Old Gregg
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Which 6.5m forward. I already have (Wilson) -

    a) Jota
    b) Delofeu
    c) King

    1. TikiTakaah
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Deulofeu. King won't match those points since it will be more collectively shared with fraser and wilson. Jota has tough fixtures to start along with the Europa league.

  22. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Lampard giving freedom to the full backs to attack

    Alonso essential

    1. Offside
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Zappacosta is coming.

      1. Coaly
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        He’s rubbish and plays on the other side

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Chelsea fans think Emerson is the better fullback

      2. ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Zappacosta being nailed would make my life 100 times easier

  23. Offside
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I’m more worried Salah might not be firing on all cylinders early doors.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      75% is still better than most.

    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      If he wasn't playing Norwich I wouldn't have him.

  24. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Pope
    TAA VVD Alonso Coleman
    Salah Sterling Fraser Perez
    Wilson Deulofeu

    Button Greenwood Kelly Dendoncker

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Nice team, Alonso is a punt from the start with a new manager but I like it.

  25. Naboo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Fraser or Moura? Struggling with this. Definitely prefer Fraser long term but my gut tells me Moura will go nuts early season to try secure his place in the XI before Son returns

    1. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Fraser

    2. AuFeld
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Both.

    3. adamtheyido
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Doesn't matter of he goes nuts... he scored a hat trick in the semi...

  26. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone else WC gw3?

    1. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      If I can hold out that long

    2. dimo_fpl
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I always try to draw it out as long as I can

  27. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Why are people going Perez over Tielemans for same money?

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Coin toss.

      Perez has nice conversion stats from Newcastle and looks likely to be in the front 3 for Leicester, Tielemans is a safer choice and will definitely still pick up points playing much further back.

      I kinda want both but need 6 midfielders.

    2. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I lean Perez because he put up some great numbers last season, and Tielemans will be playing deeper than him.

      To be honest I'm not really a big fan of either pick though, I'd much rather go with Vardy if I wanted LEI. Still trying to navigate a way for Perez to get out of my team but at the price point I think he's the best pick.

    3. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Perez has a more attacking role, I believe.

    4. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Seen more as Vardy's partner than a winger, not a bad conversion rate and arguably should still be classed as a forward. For NEW he approached 160pts re-classed, tidy player.

    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Proven goal threat.

      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Tielemans is still a good option too, a Lanzini lover like yourself not tempted by his quality?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Not sure he will get in the team. 🙂

          1. Irish Madridista ⭐
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah interesting to see how they'll line up.. I know Rogers prefers 2 strikers but can't see why Tielemans would go there permanently if not assured gametime.

            Tielemans - Ndidi
            Perez - Maddison - Barnes/Gray(?)
            Vardy

            1. KingOllie
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              rogers was playing 4-1-4-1 at the end

              Ndidi
              Perez - mad - tielemans - barnes
              vardy

    6. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Because they feel he will score more points

    7. dimo_fpl
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Perez more exciting, can see him scoring 2 on a good day. Tielemans is class, but isn’t as explosive

  28. dimo_fpl
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    This experimental team has the 3 big hitters, double pool defence and Everton defender. All the players are nailed. In general, a great team I think;

    Ryan
    Taa Vvd Digne Taylor
    Salah Sterling Pérez Pereyra
    Kane King
    Button | Dendonker | Greenwood | Kelly

    1. dimo_fpl
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Having 3 big hitters is great in my opinion because you can easily downgrade, rather than having to upgrade if they start killing it.

      1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Looks a decent team to me.... pwrsoa lily I'm not too keen on Tayloras Burnley dont have the best early fixtures but otherwise its solid.

        1. Toblerone52 - Zlatan Ibra-H…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Personally**

          1. dimo_fpl
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Which 4.5 is better though

    2. HamezMace
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Very good

      1. dimo_fpl
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks mate

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Have something very similar on the stocks.

      Consider Auba May bd better in 1 and 2 if only because of captain option in 2. Odd to have 3 super premiums and no great captain option.

      Looking at McGinn in midfield and Holebas at the back if he’s nailed.

  29. cylus11 ( Manager) - Russia…
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thinking about Perez or Siggy.
    I know Siggy is on pens but Perez still offers the best at 6.5 m
    Thoughts

    1. dimo_fpl
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Both look like great pics. I think Perez offers more for his value

    2. Emiliano Sala
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Perez will get more points. Forget prices

    3. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Both are great options

    4. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Siggy offers good value in terms of assist and goal threat, pens a bonus if he gets his technique right. The 2 aren't really comparable whereas Siggy v Fraser is. Having said that I do think for 6.5 Perez is undervalued by a half, right now.

    5. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Get both. I might get Perez a bit later, don’t like his first fixtures....

    6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Siggy was outscored by both his fullbacks in 2019... But if Gueye leaves that may not continue

      Perez at 6.5 in a Rodgers attack - I think he almost certainly outperforms ziggy on value, and possibly matches /exceeds him point for point

  30. The Darkest Knight
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I.... see... you....

    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Feck off ya overgrown lamp.

      1. dimo_fpl
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Woahhhhh

        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          *Sauron and Irish Madridista step into the ring*

          😉

          1. Party time
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Irish potato

            • Party time
                4 years, 9 months ago

                The history about potatoes is quite interesting especially the Irish ones