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Joelinton could fill attacking void at Newcastle in 2019/20

Newcastle United have smashed their transfer record to secure the signing of Joelinton (£6.0m) from Hoffenheim for a reported £40m fee. 

The Brazilian forward, 22, arrives on Tyneside amidst a period of considerable upheaval for the Magpies, with the recent departure of former manager Rafael Benitez alongside last season’s top-scorer Ayoze Perez’s (£6.5m) move to Leicester City and the transfer of Salomon Rondon to Benitez’s new club, Dalian Yifang. 

Having scored 11 goals in 35 games for Hoffenheim in 2018/19, Newcastle will be hoping that the former Brazil Under-17 international can translate his promising form into the club’s upcoming Premier League campaign, with their first test coming against Arsenal on August 10th. 

Priced at £6.0m in Fantasy Premier League, Joelinton joins a growing list of similarly priced strikers whose credentials will come under further scrutiny in the opening Gameweeks, as managers seek to identify the best value-for-money forwards in the initial stages of the 2019/20 campaign. 

The striker’s arrival at St James’ Park coincides with the recent appointment of Steve Bruce as manager, and the veteran coach will be hoping that the 22-year-old can provide goalscoring impetus to a team that is almost certainly set to be involved in a relegation dogfight for their Premier League status in the upcoming campaign. 

Upon signing for Newcastle, Joelinton said: 

“I know it’s a big club, with massive history here in England and around the world. I’ve followed the Premier League from Brazil since I was little and know about the huge tradition of the club and how passionate the fans are. I’m passionate about the game. I bring a lot of emotion on to the pitch. I’ll never being lacking in desire and dedication. I like playing football and like to enjoy myself on the pitch. I hope to have a great career here. As I said before I’m really happy and hope to bring a lot of joy to the fans and everybody involved with the football club.”

Steve Bruce also spoke enthusiastically after Joelinton’s arrival was confirmed: 

“The kid’s got an exciting time ahead of him. He’s a smashing young player and we’re obviously delighted to get him. It’s been going on for a little bit now, so to get him is great for everybody. He’s got everything that a modern-day player wants. He’s big, strong and athletic, and of course, he’s got age on his side too which is vitally important. He’s learned the history and wanted it (the number nine shirt), and that’s always a big shirt to fill. But in his eyes, it was ‘bring it on – it’s what I’m here for’. He’s risen to that challenge, and I’m sure he will be a big, big favourite of the supporters. He’s got an incredible work-rate about him, he’s got a really good humility about him, and all the attributes a top striker needs.”

The History and Statistics 

Joelinton in action for Hoffenheim in the Champions League

For any 22-year-old striker to command a £40m fee, they are likely to be a player with considerable promise and potential. Joelinton is no exception in this regard, yet the Brazilian has experienced a rapid rise from the realms of South America to Europe’s most competitive leagues in just five seasons.

Having progressed through the ranks at his boyhood club Sport Recife in Brazil, Joelinton was given his debut at the age of 17, coming on as a substitute in a 2-1 away win against city rivals Santa Cruz. 

The striker made a total of 12 senior appearances for Sport Recife, scoring on three occasions, but this was enough for Hoffenheim to make their move as the Bundesliga outfit secured the Brazilian’s signature in 2015 on a five-year contract. 

Joelinton’s initial spell in Germany was disappointing for the forward, as he made just one appearance for the club as a last-minute substitute in the 2015/16 campaign. This led to Hoffenheim sanctioning a loan move to Austrian Bundesliga outfit Rapid Wien, who Joelinton joined on a two-year loan at the start of the 2015/16 season. 

The Brazilian was finally given his opportunity in Europe and gradually began to find his feet. Across 60 appearances for Rapid Wien, Joelinton scored on 15 occasions as well as playing in all 10 of the club’s Europa League matches in the 2016/17 season. He returned to Hoffenheim following the expiration of his loan deal in Austria, and began life back in Germany in emphatic fashion. 

After being given his first start in a DFB-Pokal cup match at 1. FC Kaiserslautern, Joelinton scored a hat-trick in a 6-1 victory and proceeded to feature prominently for Hoffenheim throughout the 2018/19 campaign, including scoring a last-minute equaliser in a Champions League group game against Lyon. 

After finishing the season with 11 goals in 35 games, it is Newcastle United who have made their move to sign this exciting, attacking prospect who arrives in the Premier League with a point to prove to those who may doubt the large fee he has commanded. 

Whilst the club’s record signing of Joelinton is largely influenced by the club’s sale of last season’s top-scorer Ayoze Perez for a reported £30m, owner Mike Ashley has moved to fill a goalscoring void left by him, and there is every chance that this Brazilian forward could shine for the Magpies if he is capable of replicating his promising form in the Premier League. 

Comparisons


Minutes per shot Minutes per shot in the box Minutes per shot on target Minutes per key pass
Joelinton 38.1 71.2 89 49.7
Pérez 53.2 75.1 104.6 65.1
Rondon 30.2 46 93.5 83.1
Almiron  53.3 86.2 140 58.9
Atsu  51.4 99.6 113.8 88.5
Shelvey  41 236 118 37.8

The Prospects

Joelinton’s arrival on Tyneside will inevitably be met with a sense of scepticism given the Brazilian’s £40m price-tag, but his underlying statistics suggest this could be a player capable of scoring goals in England’s top flight.

The 22-year-old ranked top for average minutes per shot compared to five of Newcastle’s main attacking assets from 2018/19, whilst also having a superior average minutes per shot on target. 

Newcastle’s other attacking outlets such as Miguel Almiron (£6.0m) and Christian Atsu (£5.5m) experienced difficult seasons in 2018/19, and there is certainly scope for Joelinton to provide impetus and inspiration to this squad who, at times, seemed deflated and devoid of confidence in Benitez’s final season in charge at the club. 

Given the departure of Perez to Leicester City and the 12 Premier League goals scored by the Spaniard, expectation will naturally gravitate towards Joelinton to fill this goalscoring void vacated by Perez, especially given the departure of Rondon to China too

The Brazilian also ranks highly for minutes per key pass, second to only Jonjo Shelvey (£5.0m) who is not a direct striker but represents a part of Newcastle’s attacking options, outlining how the forward could contribute to the Magpies’ goalscoring efforts with the addition of assists, suggesting the ability to secure a spread of Fantasy points in 2019/20. 

The recently departed Rondon was a huge asset for Newcastle in Benitez’s final season in charge, and it is no surprise that the Spaniard has taken the forward with him to China. The Venezuelan’s exceptional average minutes per shot in the box is something that no Newcastle forward or Joelinton came close to matching in 2018/19, suggesting that there is certainly room for the Magpies’ new signing to improve.

The usual caveat applies that these figures for Joelinton were recorded in the Bundesliga, so it is, of course, possible that he may take some time to adapt.

This pressure and the wider context in which Joelinton’s arrival on Tyneside can be placed is pivotal in assessing if the Brazilian will shine or falter for Bruce and Newcastle. After departing his native Brazil for the first time and arriving in Germany, Hoffenheim did not deem the striker to be capable of contributing to their Bundesliga campaign. 

Whether this was the initial plan or a judgement made on the basis of the Brazilian’s adaptation to life in Germany is unclear, but arriving in a new country to play in a new domestic league yet again comes with a period of adaptation, and on the basis of Joelinton’s track-record it is unclear if the 22-year-old will excel for the Magpies in 2019/20 or not. 

Furthermore, Newcastle’s opening fixtures are once again some of the most difficult for any team in the division. 

The opening day sees Arsenal travel to St James’ Park, followed by away trips to Tottenham and Liverpool within the next four Gameweeks. There are appealing games against Norwich (away) and Watford (home) sandwiched in-between, but for any Fantasy manager to back a club such as Newcastle amidst a period of such instability both on and off the field, the fixtures would have to be exceptional. 

The Magpies’ opening nine games see them take on five of last year’s top-six, and this simply represents a huge red-flag for any manager thinking of backing and selecting Newcastle’s assets. 

Joelinton certainly has the potential to be one of 2019/20’s biggest surprise packages in the Premier League given promising underlying data, but with a transition from Germany to England, a £40m price-tag and his arrival at a club who are stuck amidst a turbulent battle of ownership off the field, and with recruitment problems on it, the Brazilian firmly falls in the category of ‘one-to-watch’ owing to Newcastle’s extremely unattractive fixtures at the start of the 2019/20 Premier League campaign.

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1,114 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Dutchy
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    How’s this for a fancy 3-4-3?

    Pope*
    TAA / Digne / Wan- Bissaka
    Salah / KDB / Fraser / Pérez
    Kane / Vardy / King

    Button / 4.5 / 4.0 / Dendoncker

    1. The FPL Gods Must Be Crazy
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Looks good. Maybe Fraser>Pereyra and King>Wilson

      1. Brooksy86
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Sideways

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Looks great considering only one Pool defender.

    3. Knock Down Your Aerial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Pleasantly surprised.

    4. Me Spurs
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I’d do wan Bissaka, Fraser to vvd brooks personally, rest looks good

    5. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Unobtainable

    6. barracuda
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      102,5 = nice try

    7. The 5% Team
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      can't be done

    8. Point-one short
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      You're 3m over budget...

    9. gmando2011
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      i wondered why i had so many similar player yet you had a much better team... great feedback but this team adds up to £102.5m

    10. jayzico
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      If it's 2.5 over lose Digne for Coleman; KDB for Bilva and Perez for Pereyra

  2. I am 42
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    choose 2 please
    1. Bsilva
    2. Siggy
    3. Wilson

    1. Dutchy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      2,3

    2. I am 42
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      already have Sterling Digne and no Bou if that matters

    3. ROLLING THE DICE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      2 + 3

    4. The FPL Gods Must Be Crazy
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      2 & 3

    5. I am 42
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      thanks all for the prompt reply

    6. rhysmd
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      2+3

    7. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      2&3

  3. The FPL Gods Must Be Crazy
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Who is everyone eyeing off as the best 4.5 defender? Thinking I'll go a 3-4-3 formation and want a decent backup defender on the bench. Any thoughts appreciated.

    1. Ask Yourself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Just depends who rotates best with your players out of o’connell, Fredericks and Targett/Guilbert

    2. Tsparkes10
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Oconnel for sure 🙂 overlaps so assist potential. Definite starter and huge threat from set pieces.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        How many Blades you starting with assuming Henderson comes in at 4.5?

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          I've got 2 in my draft. O'Connell for home games and Norwood as a 5m starter in midfield.

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            I've tweaked my 2x4.5 rotation to a crazy 3-way rotation today. I'll play 2 of O'Connell, Taylor and Guilbert. It seems to work, fixtures-wise.

          2. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Norwood looks interesting. Could be very similar to Ruben Neves last season in terms of points.

            1. Tsparkes10
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              I'd avoid. On set pieces but plays more as a holding cm... If he was on all pens and fks then it'd be different but more likely just corners and 30+ freekicks

              1. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                For 5m I think he's good for more points than Kante and Jorginho, and will play more than Noble. And you don't flinch at leaving a 5m player on the bench.

                1. Tsparkes10
                  • 3 Years
                  2 years, 1 month ago

                  True, would maybe prefer the 0.5 extra for Robinson imo but depends on tight budget

        2. Tsparkes10
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Potentially 3 ;)... Oconnel bench and Sharp rotation with someone like Greenwood. Not had a huge think atm though

      2. Shatner's Bassoon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Any reason why he hasn’t started some games in pre season? I was looking at him as an option but put off a bit by the no show(s)...

        1. Tsparkes10
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Who we talking about?

          1. Shatner's Bassoon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            O Connell - I could be wrong but thought he was left out recently?

            1. Tsparkes10
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              It's preseason so loads of rotation. Bryan and Lundstram played a fair amount but won't be near the starting XI I shouldn't think. Oconnel our best cb for sure

              1. Shatner's Bassoon
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                Ah ok, cheers

      3. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        TSparkes, what do you plan on doing with the GK situation if Blades get their goalie?

        1. Tsparkes10
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Probs a 4.5 rotation pairing. Will have a look at Denos price first

    3. rhysmd
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Like the look of Aarons at Norwich

    4. TheNovocastrian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Have a look at West Ham's fixtures from gw2. Then select Diop 😉

    5. KAI SZN™
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Burnley/Westham

  4. rhysmd
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    First draft (of many)

    Allison (4.0)
    TAA Laporte Kelly (Dunk Aarons)
    Sterling Salah Siggy Tielemans ?
    Jimenez King (Greenwood)

    6.0 to spend on last mid... options Grealish? McNeil?

  5. pelzi80
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    First RMT please - a bit different, but mostly template

    Ryan, Button

    TAA , Robertson, Wan Bissaka, (Coleman), (Kelly)
    Salah, Sterling, Tielemans, Jota, (Dendoncker)
    Wilson, Deolofeu, Jota

    Stupid to have Coleman, and bench him , could downgrade and upgrade somewhere else - but who?

    Thanks

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Nice. Would start Coleman over Villa Jota first GW.

      1. pelzi80
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks,

        Yes, maybe that's a good idea. Not too sure about Everton defence, but not many better options as I can see.

        Maybe downgrade Coleman to a 4,5 , and then upgrade keepers...

        1. Annie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          A good 4.5 keeper option may appear after a few weeks. I’d stick with keeping money in your outfield team for now

  6. Fordy40
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts appreciated....

    Ederson-Button
    TAA-VVD-Coleman-Zinky-Kelly
    Salah-Siggy-Fraser-Milivojevic-Doncke
    Vardy-King-Jota

    1. rhysmd
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Decent but lack of City attack might be worth considering

      1. Fordy40
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I know what you mean. Trouble is that I’d like my subs to be starters, not just a wasted space, don’t know how to get any City mids in there

        1. GlasgeeRangers
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Siggy > Bilva? Lack of gueye could prove a problem for everton. Still no prolific striker either.

          1. Fordy40
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Good point. I think more pens are going to happen this season though with VAR in every game, Siggy takes them and also set pieces

  7. pingissimus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Estimated combined returns in weeks 1 and 2 for

    Salah
    Sterling
    Kane
    Auba

  8. King Kohli
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Do we think the combined attacking threat of TAA, Robbo & VVD along with their CS and bonus potential can cover any monster hauls for Salah, as long as we have a decent viable captain option like Kane & Sterling?

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Not exactly cover, but if you invest the no-Salah money wisely, you can outwit the Salahites. I have to believe that because I've got those 3 with a plan to share the armband between Sterling and Kane myself!

      1. King Kohli
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Played conventionally for many years and feel like going for an all or nothing approach this season.
        Think no Salah approach could pay off quite handsomely this year.

    2. rdamjan
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I`m thinkering the same thing...

      For me its between:
      A. Salah + Laporte
      B. Sterling + VVD

      With Kane in my team is Steling + Kane better rotation pair for C?

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        On paper yeah, but a lot of Salah owners will be too scared not to captain him!

    3. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      On returns at home TAA is close to Mo in captaincy value if I read the stats from yesterday correctly. Check hot topics home and away.

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        It was PPM, but of course, the value gap doubles when we consider captaincy. If you've got Sterling and Kane you'd still prioritize them.

        1. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Agreed

          Liverpool defence captain feels a last resort pick mostly. It’s still an eye opener I think as a stat.

          1. Andy_Social
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            TAA is your vice-captain should something go wrong!

            1. pingissimus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Week 1 yes

            2. pingissimus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Trouble for no Mo teams is that many if not most Mo teams have TAA too!!!

              1. Andy_Social
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                Sure, but very few will VC TAA. With his home form, if Salah is rested, you're captaining TAA and others aren't - you could be in for a little treat.

  9. Roy Rovers
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    0.5 ITB for King > Chelsea striker in future......change anything

    Pope
    TAA VVD Walker AWB or Coleman or Mcguire
    Salah KDB Perez Brooks
    Kane King

    Woodman Dendonker Kelly Greenwood

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I assume you'll have 2 of those 3 5.5s.
      I can't remember what I didn't like about your earlier draft, but you've fixed it now.
      Yes, this is excellent.

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        1 of AWB, McGuire or Coleman.

        1. Roy Rovers
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Cheers.

    2. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      If you are swapping out King does that mean Brooks is a midterm hold? I much prefer Brooks to King but I’m unsure if his midterm value. King Brooks feels odd as a double up.

      Walker I prefer to Zinc but he only really offers cs and very occasional attacking returns on the basis of last time. In principle I’m looking at premiums at the back who have chances at both ends.

      1. Andy_Social
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        King/Brooks looks to me like a half-hearted nod to the first 2 fixtures before abandoning Cherries. Not a bad tactic if it gives breathing space to assess who the Chelsea forward is and who emerges as a 6m midfielder.

      2. Roy Rovers
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        My bad ....Walker is Laporte and still 0.5 ITB to bring in Giroud, Abraham or Bats.

  10. cescpistols111
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Best 4.5m defenders to rotate?

    1. All about that Baines
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Diop
      El Mohamedy/Guilbert (depending on who's in favor)

    2. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      For me, Burnley rotates with Villa or Sheff United. Options there.
      You might also consider Saints and Bournemouth.

    3. Roy Rovers
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Think someone mentioned Sheffield & Newcastle United but check.

    4. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      There's a rotation article: https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2019/06/13/a-guide-to-fpl-fixture-rotation-ahead-of-2019-20/ back from when the fixtures came out which may be useful.

  11. All about that Baines
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Up for any suggestions/shuffles

    Ryan
    Robbo/ Digne/ Ake
    Salah/ Moura/ Fraser/ Richarlison
    Wesley/ Kane/ Wilson

    Bench: Button/Dendoncker/Kelly/Diop

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Poor bench and not a fan of Wesley... Would downgrade Rich to Perez and upgrade elsewhere

    2. Shatner's Bassoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      No City stands out.

      If you wanna keep this structure I’d do
      Rich -> B Silva
      Moura -> Perez (don’t need him if you’re going Kane)
      Wesley -> 6.5
      Ake -> Zinch

  12. AC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Interesting comparison last 3 years teams who started in the Europa League in July their premier league record over the first 5 games and there does appear to be some dip in league form

    2019 Burnley Drew 1 lost 4
    2018 Everton Drew 1 lost 3 won 1
    2017 West Ham lost 4 won 1

    I think that with the tough fixtures early and the above il only invest in dendocker early on from Wolves

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      That's what I decided after seeing Wolves put out a full-strength team last night.

    2. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      None of those teams took EL seriously and fielded weakened teams.

      My thought is that just perhaps - and that’s a just perhaps - Wolves will start more strongly because they will have played full strength teams who are match hardened early.

      In any event I rate this Wolves side as being much much better than any of that lot.

      1. AC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I’m a big wolves fan they are a classier team than the 3 mentioned. I am interested to understand why, maybe it’s the fact that non Europa League teams are only preparing for that one game a week regardless of personnel or that training is tailored for the long haul rather than straight into Sunday Thursday.

        1. Andy_Social
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          There's insufficient time between Friday morning at the weekend game to go through tactical preparations for the league match.

  13. Point-one short
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Ideas, concerns, expectations?

    Ryan
    TAA Robbo Zinchenko Smith
    Salah Sterling Sane Fraser
    King Deulo

    Button | Greenwood, Dendoncker, Kelly

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Smith and Zinchenko in starting lineup isn't ideal. Sane may get managed minutes also. I'd downgrade Sane to either Perez, Zaha or someone of similar price and upgrade Smith, Kelly and Ryan maybe

      1. scubasmithy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I'd argue the opposite with Zinchenko, he is ideal for first XI

        1. Point-one short
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Think he is nailed for first 4-6gw personally.

          1. Tsparkes10
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Angelino played in preseason and Danilo still available. Also Laporte lb an option aswell as a change in formation especially with the amount of attackers and midfielders. Not keen but gl

            1. Point-one short
              • 4 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Angelino played and was terrible. More giving him some gametime for his confidence. In the first friendly he was responsible for what should have been 2 penalties conceded (luckily for him only 1 given). He was awful. The question is Mendy, and it sounds that his knee specialist has told him he's still a way off starting. Last time Mendy was declared fit he still didn't play for 3 games iirc, and then shortly after returning injured the knee again. Zinch is good for a while imo.

    2. Shiva_Destroyer
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Sane ? Really ? Even After what pep said?

      1. Point-one short
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        What did Pep say? Far as I was aware he praised Sane, along the lines of "he can still improve but is a great player and we don't want to sell".... Has he said more?

        1. Shiva_Destroyer
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          He said we want sane to stay but it’s his decision. Such a player can’t be trusted to be in starting xi esp with a coach like Pep

      2. Milos1976
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Mahrez will be resting for a few GWs, so it makes perfect sense to get Sane...

  14. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Have Digne, so:

    A) Coleman (442)
    B) Grealish (352)
    C) Pereyra (352)

    1. Shatner's Bassoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Don’t love any of those options tbh but would go with C.

  15. Tommyg
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Just looking at pre season and origi is an interesting proposition.

    I think he might increasingly steal minutes from firmno. Consistent performer at the end of last season (not to mention the rather important goals he scored) and has been scoring pre season. Has stayed loyal to the club and not agitated for a move. He gonna get minutes, I'm sure of it....

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Are you brave enough to use a Pool place on him?

    2. GlasgeeRangers
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Im going to opt for Origi in starting XI.
      Given that the front 3 will need some rest i think NOR is the perfect opportunity for the young player. Especially given previous performances.

    3. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I’d back the defenders and Salah to outscore in the first GW, so personally don’t feel comfortable dropping VVD or TAA

    4. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I don't want increased minutes, I want lots of minutes.

      1. Point-one short
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        You'll have 30 seconds like everyone else!

        1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          That's what I say to my wife

  16. Shiva_Destroyer
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Saw dendoncker stats from last game. He’s getting up the pitch quite often. Is it a bad idea to go with 10 perfect players and play dendoncker in starting 11?

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Can't go wrong with having him in your 15. Starting him - for me it's no different to playing Kante or Jorginho who are 0.5 more expensive, but he'll still be a regular 2-pointer (secret - he's in my Starting XI!)

      1. Shiva_Destroyer
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Haha.. i do feel he’s better prospect than 5.0 ones you mentioned. And the other 10 i can get with him are the ones i am completely happy with

  17. GlasgeeRangers
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    1m to spare - bank it or spend it? Suggestions please

    Pope (Button)
    TAA, Laporte, Wan Bissaka, Zouma ( O'Connel )
    Pogba, KDB, Sterling, Perez ( Donkey )
    Auba, Origi ( Greenwood )

    I think origi is a strong contender for NOR - the front 3 regulars need rest!

    1. Shiva_Destroyer
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I’d never go in with a transfer necessary the next gw. Use 1m and get decent 6.5 striker who’ll be good for 3 weeks... GW 1 often sees some players you need to get soon. Don’t block your transfer

      1. GlasgeeRangers
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Good point - Will have a play and look to keep origi on the fray - an injury to firmino is the only chance of certain game time

    2. Tsparkes10
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Auba is interesting but would personally prefer someone like Vardy and have that money spent elsewhere. Defence and mid looks good though you'll want Mane or Salah pretty soon. Would also want a better outright gk

      1. GlasgeeRangers
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Much appreciated!

    3. infamousprob
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Lacazette beeing overlooked a lot. If you want Arsenal striker and want to save money then Auba->Laca could be the move for you.

      Origi is a one GW punt.. thats asking for trouble...

      Zouma, are we sure he will start? nobody knows who Lampard prefers.

      1. Srv210
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        the rotation and minute issues for arsenal strikers is drawing me away but i'm considering laca

        1. GlasgeeRangers
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Very valid point - i actually prefer laca > auba as a footballer so could be a good option.

  18. BENOIT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Has anyone managed to get Salah, Kane, Sterling and TAA in to the same Draft?

    1. GlasgeeRangers
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Ederson (Button)
      TAA, Wan bissaka, zouma, Laporte (Zouma)
      Sterling, Salah, Perez, Jorginho/Dendonker rotation
      Kane, Origi

      1. Rotation's Alter Ego
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Even if you put two Zouma's in your team, it doesn't mean he'll play - massive competition from Christensen even before Rudiger is back

        1. BENOIT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          🙂

    2. Point-one short
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    3. Shiva_Destroyer
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I did try that out but you got to play 4.0 kelly and 4.5 dendoncker in starting line up.
      If Kane gets a hatty, it’s all worth it isn’t it

    4. Rotation's Alter Ego
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I'm sure people have, just have to make some concessions elsewhere.

      Quick tinker gave me this as a start point:

      Ryan
      Coleman - TAA - Zinchenko - 4.5
      Salah - Sterling - Fraser / Moura - Perez
      Kane - King / Deulofeu.

      Then bench is just fodder. Issue for me is finding a 4.5 Def I'd be happy to play each week, besides the fact that I'm not really interested in Kane 😉

      1. HamezMace
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        That's about as good as it gets I think.

      2. seewhyaxe
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Dunk?

    5. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      yup.and robbo

    6. Lebowski85
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Yep

    7. Lebowski85
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Pope (Burnley Place Holder)
      TAA VVD Digne WanB
      Salah Sterling Brooks Jorgh
      Kane King

      Dendonker Lundstram Greenwood

      I am toying with the idea of swapping Kane/King for Vardy Wilson. As the later has a better combined PPG from last season for 0.5 less...which would be good to have in the kitty

    8. Smash10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Yep!
      Pope
      VVD, TAA, Zouma, Zinchenko
      Salah, Sterling, Perez, Pereyra/CHO
      Kane, King

      Button, Kelly, Dendoncker, Greenwood

  19. child of God
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Morning fellas. Jesus is coming soon , what are we doing about that

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Giving up the booze and mistress and praying?

      1. child of God
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        You should do that

    2. HamezMace
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Repent

  20. IRBOX ⚽
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Plenty

  21. Shiva_Destroyer
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Did you guys see kane first two pre season games??? Where’s that Kane has gone who we could captain every gw and was best FpL asset?? He looked slow, deep, lethargic and that too with the rest he got... He’s turning into Rooney 4 years early

    1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Lock up your grannies.

    2. Shatner's Bassoon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Injuries have killed him really. Glass ankles

  22. Srv210
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    which one looks better

    Pope
    Coleman , TAA , Van Anholt
    Salah , Sterling ,Moura , ____, _____
    _____ , Wilson

    bench : button , greenwood, lundstram , targett (only starting bench player)

    A) Vardy , Robinson , Jota (villa)
    B) Lacazette , Perez/Tielemans , dendonker

    1. infamousprob
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      really want Moura for the GW1 , but don't want him for GW2. After that, Moura is a rotation risk... is he really worth the risk... theres -4p transfer written all over it =/

  23. Brimble82
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Argh! Thought I was settled - but I’m not - it seems I need more Sterling in my life, so...

    A: Ederson - Digne - Zaha - Bilva
    B: Ryan - Coleman - Jorginho - Sterling

    1. Srv210
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      B is nice but someone other than jorginho

      1. Brimble82
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Not even if he is on pens?
        Not much else at the £5.0m price point!

        1. Srv210
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Norwood is on set pieces ,can be an option

          1. Lebowski85
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            My plan B. Need to see if he can cut the mustard.

            Knockaert was prolific and all over set pieces when he came up. He's done nothing

          2. Brimble82
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Not feeling much for SHU. Especially looking at their first 13 GWs.
            Would be a lil way after Plan B before I went that way.

          3. Brimble82
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Cue Norwood brace in GW1!

        2. Lebowski85
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          I agree. I've got him. Starter on Pens and should get some cleanies. I read somewhere that Lampard sees him playing a slightly more positive role in the team aswell...so maybe more assist?

          1. Brimble82
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            I read that too.
            Think it was in review/response to the Barça game.
            If he ends up on pens and further forward, he could be a steal at £5.0m

        3. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          The 5.0s are 5.0 for a reason

          1. Brimble82
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Such prophetic reflections.

  24. MFPL
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Are Andre Gray and Ben Gibson (Burnley) likely starters for their teams?

    1. Shiva_Destroyer
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Nope

    2. Srv210
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      no

    3. HamezMace
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      No.
      Some Watford fans have said Gray has looked good in preseason, but still behind Deeney and Deulofeu.

      Mee and Tarkowski first choice at Burnley, but rumours Tarkowski is someone Leicester are looking at if Maguire is sold.

  25. Pjanić At The Disco
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Which to pick?

    A) Ryan + Digne + Zinchenko
    B) Ederson + Coleman + Guilbert
    C) Ryan + Coleman + Walker

    1. Magic Box
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I prefer A or C.

      If Zinchenko proves that he will be nailed at the start of the season then definitely A.

  26. GlasgeeRangers
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Joelinton comes to the fray at 6.0, joins the wesley/DCL debate. Thoughts?

    1. Thuug
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      And Ings

    2. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      An option. Ings and Adams in the mix too. Wouldn't expect many of them to score more than 8 or 9 goals this season though.

    3. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I don't have enough confidence in any striker below 6.5 to put him in my starting line up. It's a starting 6.5 or a benched 4.5 for me.

    4. Shiva_Destroyer
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Billy sharp? Better fixtures, better finisher by the looks of it

  27. Thuug
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Could you give me your thoughts:

    Chambers (ars) > Holding (ars) when fit
    or O'Connell

    1. infamousprob
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Holding is Arsenals starting defender when fit and ready. Emery wants to go back to two CBs. Holding-Sokratis is first choice. Then comes Chambers, Mustafi and Mavropanos. Monreal plays CB only when Arsenal plays three at the back.

  28. OLLY G
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    "Everton have told Crystal Palace they are prepared to pay £60 million plus striker Cenk Tosun for Wilfired Zaha, but fear they could miss out to Chelsea."

    This could just be paper talk, but it makes DCL far more appealing at 6m.

    1. Lebowski85
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Not gonna happen. From what we have been hearing from our DoF it's not the sort of transfer we are looking to make.

      Essentially he's too old for that amount of money.

      1. The 5% Team
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Marcel Brands has done some good business since he's been at Everton though

        1. Lebowski85
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Absolutely. That's why we won't sign him. He would improve our 11 but we would never be able to sell for a profit.

          Our squad is littered with players we can't shift from the Walsh/Koeman era

          Richarlison, Digne & Gomes were all bought with high potential to sell on for profit. Digne and Homes were bought relatively cheap aswell

          1. The 5% Team
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            yeah that sounds legit. Can't see it happening as well

            fpl wise, would be nice though

    2. The 5% Team
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Chelsea?

    3. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Arsenal supporters, "Never rated him anyway, we've got Iwobi"

  29. Shiva_Destroyer
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Billy sharp is in my team right now. 6.0 striker who has knack of scoring goals and decent fixtures 4 easy out of 5. No one seems to be talking about him. Am I missing something? For me he’s better option than others at or below 6.0

    1. OLLY G
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Newlt promoted players usually don't deliver. I just always try and avoid personally.

      1. HamezMace
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        You're forgetting about Marcus Stewart at Ipswich mate.

        1. Lebowski85
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Charlie Adam aswell. That's going back a bit now though.

          Never forget the Taarabt burning

          1. HamezMace
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Precious memories indeed.

            1. Lebowski85
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              It's why I get up in the morning

    2. nisag17
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I am considering him and Mousset. Mousset is their record signing and only 5.0. So if it looks like Mousset is nailed I will go for him. At 6 there are other options as well though you are right Billy sharp is a good one with the fixtures in favour.

    3. jomikijiq
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      he is a 33 years old with 2 top flight appearances

  30. ADucksBehind
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    A) Kane, DeBruyne, Maddison
    B) Vardy, Sterling, Brooks

    1. Shiva_Destroyer
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      B. Easy

    2. Lebowski85
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I'd be happier with B