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Five Man City talking points ahead of the Community Shield final

Manchester City have now completed their pre-season friendly schedule ahead of the 2019/20 season, leaving plenty for Fantasy Premier League managers to chew over.

We will get one final look at Pep Guardiola’s team before the Gameweek 1 deadline when they face Liverpool in the Community Shield final next Sunday.

This presents a fantastic opportunity for Fantasy managers to put to rest any final questions they have about Manchester City assets.

This article highlights five key areas of their team that we should be keeping an eye on at Wembley next weekend.

Front and centre

Sterling in action for Man City during pre-season

The chances of Raheem Sterling (£12.0m) lining up as Manchester City’s centre-forward in Gameweek 1 strengthen with each passing pre-season friendly.

The England international was deployed as the striker in Guardiola’s 4-3-3 system in the win over Yokohama.

He scored in that final game of the tour and has now been involved in six pre-season goals this summer (four his own, two assists).

As has been reportedly already, with Sergio Aguero (£12.0m) and Gabriel Jesus (£9.5m) still on international leave following their involvement at the Copa America, Guardiola is clearly preparing Sterling to take their place in the Community Shield and possible beyond that.

We would expect him to start up front against Liverpool on Sunday but the key thing to look out for among Fantasy managers is how he gets on in that role.

It was discussed last week whether a shift to a centre-forward role is always beneficial to a wide-midfield player so an eye test against one of the best defences in the Premier League could prove a helpful test of Sterling’s credentials.

Sanéty Check

Sané’s position in the team came under threat after Sterling started performing well on the left

The implications of Sterling’s role as a centre-forward is also helpful for Fantasy managers in regards to other areas of the Manchester City team.

With the winger being pulled into a central role, it means there is much less competition for the flanks of Guardiola’s front-three.

The absence of Riyad Mahrez (£8.5m), following his successful African Cup of Nations campaign with Algeria, is also a benefit for predicting the team early on.

Leroy Sané (£9.5m) should be the chief beneficiary as he should have unrivalled access to the left flank of Guardiola’s attacking trio.

Despite the uncertainty over his future, the German international has been used extensively on the left-wing in pre-season and has been quite effective too.

After 239 minutes, two goals and one assist, Guardiola has Sané well-prepared for the new campaign and he looks likely to be an important part of the attack against Liverpool.

If he performs well at Wembley, then he could just book himself a place in the Gameweek 1 side.

Where’s Kevin?

De Bruyne has done very well in pre-season for Man City

There were media reports last week that Guardiola wanted to see Kevin de Bruyne (£9.5m) take up a deeper midfield role this season and Fantasy managers will have to keep an eye out for this in the Community Shield final.

In recent games played on tour this dropping deeper has not happened with too much regularity for the Belgian but that may be because of the quality of opposition.

Against Yokohama, de Bruyne was one of the best players on the pitch and emerged with a goal and assist to his name. That took his pre-season tally for goal involvement to four (one goal, three assists).

Despite those encouraging numbers, a match-up with Liverpool will prove a much more reliable event for seeing what de Bruyne’s positioning will be this season.

However, not only do we have to assess where he’s playing, Fantasy managers must also pay attention to whether or not a deeper role actually has any impact on his points potential.

For example, de Bruyne’s hand in set pieces won’t be affected by his positioning. But given his quality, there is still a possibility that de Bruyne could still hang back a bit more, and yet still create a decent number of chances.

Furthermore, the Belgian boasted a better minutes per shot than Sterling in 2018/19 and has historically been accurate from range.

Therefore, a deeper role could unlock other areas of de Bruyne’s Fantasy potential, which is why he should arguably the biggest focus of FPL managers during the Community Shield final.

Left-back… in the changing room?

Zinchenko may yet be the first-choice left-back for Man City at the start of the season

Now that we’ve seen Manchester City play four times in pre-season, we have a better idea of who will start at left-back too.

The signing of Angeliño (£5.0m) this summer complicated the task of predicting who the first-choice was in this position but pre-season line-ups have made things slightly easier.

Oleksandr Zinchenko (£5.5m) has recorded more minutes in friendlies at left-back than any other Manchester City player.

His total of 209 is made up of two outings over 60 minutes, and it was the Ukrainian that started in the most recent match against Yokohama.

Admittedly, Angeliño’s pre-season involvement is not that far behind Zinchenko, so it’s hard to be completely certain which one will be favoured in Gameweek 1.

The new signing (or re-signing) has recorded 151 minutes from to starts at left-back this summer.

However, only one of those outings lasted longer than an hour, hence the discrepancy of 54 minutes between him and Zinchenko.

Danilo (£5.0m) has 195 minutes to his name over the summer, just nine shy of Zinchenko, but he has predominantly been used at right-back and is likely to be Kyle Walker‘s (£6.0m) understudy this season.

Also, at least for now, Benjamin Mendy (£6.0m) is out of the picture until September according to the most recent reports.

That is a handy development for Fantasy managers as they study the Community Shield for clues about the first-choice left-back.

Zinchenko remains the favourite to start that match, but Angeliño probably has an outside chance of being involved.

On Your Ederson

Ederson is yet to play a single minute of pre-season for Man City

Finally, it has not gone unnoticed that Claudio Bravo (£5.0m) has started and played 90 minutes in every single match of Manchester City’s pre-season so far.

Obviously, we know that Ederson (£6.0m) is still the first-choice at the Eithad Stadium but there could be a slight chance of him missing out on a start to the campaign.

The Brazilian has been away this summer as part of his country’s Copa America although is still behind Alisson (£6.0m) in the pecking order.

Goalkeepers are typically easier to drop straight back in a team with minimal preparation than outfield players, and with Ederson, he will probably be fresher than his Liverpool counterpart.

However, we know that Guardiola is a methodical man who values things should as preparation during pre-season, so it’s worth considering an outside chance of the cheaper Bravo starting the Community Shield.

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1,784 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Jurgen Flopp
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    I'm set on this team. Thoughts?

    Pope
    TAA Zinchenko Coleman
    Salah Sterling Siggy Perez Fraser
    Wesley King

    Fraser will become Son in GW3.

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Nice, attack a bit light though

    2. Jurgen Flopp
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Salah Sterling Son

      1. GenerationalTalent
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I mean strikers

    3. Chazz69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Then again who's Wesley ???????????? I'm not even googling him tbh

      1. Jurgen Flopp
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        You will be come GW5

    4. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Fraser to 5.5 (Robinson maybe)
      Siggy to KDB

    5. Cert
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Zinchenko a bit dodgy

  2. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    For first 2 GWs:
    A) KDB
    B) Sane
    Thanks

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. AC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A

    3. Chazz69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      B

  3. EgyptianKing
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Mates, which duo to start?

    A) Fraser Wilson
    B) KDB King

    Cheers!

    1. Chazz69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Bournemouth dble ?

      1. EgyptianKing
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I consider it can make sense mate, namely for the first couple of GWs

  4. Flynny
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Hi.....whixh of the following set us do you prefer? V tempted by Kdb!

    Pope button
    TAA VVD xxx walker kelly
    Salah sterling xxx perez dendonk
    Xxx deulofeu greenwood

    A.....Coleman kdb king

    B.....Digne Fraser Wilson

    Thanks

    1. totaalvoetbal
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      B for me

    2. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      If you really want KDB then do A

    3. noahzark22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      b

    4. Houldsworth Hatter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      B

      1. Flynny
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Looking forward to the new season mate.

        Shame about stephenson

    5. Baganuva Hatty
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I would get KDB + B personally

      1. Flynny
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Surprised about the majority for B.

        Thanks

  5. jtreble
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Who is the most nailed TOT defender?

    1. noahzark22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      tobs and vert

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Vertonghen

  6. totaalvoetbal
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    What do people think of John Stones - a good option or at too much risk of rotation?

    1. AC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Doesn’t convince would steer clear until evidence to the contrary

      1. totaalvoetbal
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks

  7. Bennison
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    RMT please

    Ryan
    TAA/Robbo/Coleman/Targett
    Salah/KDB/Siggy/F. Anderson
    Kane/King

    Button/Kelly/Dendoncker/Greenwood

    1. noahzark22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      acceptable

    2. Coaly
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Looks good, midfield especially

      Not sure about King, Jota or Deulofeu could offer more

      1. GenerationalTalent
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Agree

  8. Coaly
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    RMT

    Pope
    TAA VVD Digne Dunk
    Salah Sterling KDB Ceballos
    Vardy DCL

    Button Greenwood Kelly Dendoncker

    1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I like it. Maybe Digne to Coleman, then upgrade DCL to King

    2. noahzark22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      acceptable

    3. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn’t want Dunk, Ceballos and DCL in my starting XI. Rest looks great though h

      1. Coaly
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Got to compromise somewhere!

        Do you think there are better options at those price points?

      2. g40steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Ceballos has spot kicks in his bag.

  9. Angelic upstart
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Here my team (for the 100th time)
    Fab button
    Robbo laporte digne Maitland Niles lundstrom
    Sterling Salah Fraser ceballos Yarmolenko
    Wilson Jota Greenwood

    Planning on 3-5-2 mainly but occasionally 4-4-2
    Let me know your thoughts please

    1. noahzark22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      unacceptable

      1. Angelic upstart
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        What would you change?

        1. noahzark22
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Arsenal and Yarm

          1. Angelic upstart
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Who for?

            1. noahzark22
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              anyone else you like

  10. AandyzZ
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    How much do we reckon Pépé will be when he signs for Arsenal??

    1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      8.0 in my opinion

      1. GenerationalTalent
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        No chance

        1. GenerationalTalent
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Below 9 and he’s in my team 100%. Have a feeling 9/9.5/10

        2. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Just looked at his stats and I agree - he’ll be much more than 8! More 9.5
          My mistake.

    2. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      9

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      9/9.5

    4. Bielsa's Bucket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      8.5

    5. AandyzZ
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I think anything below 9 and he’s straight in with good opening fixtures

      1. cravencottage
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Agree with this

  11. manu4life99
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    RMT (Raheemless)

    Pope
    VVD Robbo Zinc
    Salah KDB Sane Siggy Perez
    Jota King
    Subs: zouma,greenwood,dendoncker,button

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Interesting!

  12. Super Saints
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    A. Ederson Laporte Miliv/Zaha
    B. Pope Zinchenko Kdb

    1. Disco Stu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I like B

    2. Whiskerz
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      B, definitely

  13. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Any thoughts appreciated.

    Pickford/Pope

    TAA/VVD/Laporte/Coleman/Lundstrom

    Salah/KDB/Fraser/Ayoze/Dendoncker

    Vardy/King/Greenwood

    1. Davidwes
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Looks decent.
      I would do Pope to 4 mil keeper and uppgrade VVD to Robertson

      1. Disco Stu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I feel like I'd be better off going Pickford to a 5.0 like Fabs to pick up that extra .5. At least that way, I have a playing 2nd Keeper

        1. cravencottage
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Not sure you need a 2nd keeper at this stage of the season. During the festive season its a good idea.

        2. Terry Tibbs: Top Pundit
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Better to have the 0.5 on the pitch for 38 weeks than try and cover 2pts for 1 gameweek (can transfer GK week after if issue).

  14. GenerationalTalent
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Following on to what someone just posted, what would be the maximum price you would pick Pepe for? Let’s say he came in at 10, would you get him?

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Btw I think he’ll come in below 10, but hypothetically if he was 10

    2. Hernandez Lynam
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      9.5 would interest me, but I'd still want to see him play well first. 9.0 might tempt me into a gw1 punt

      1. Hernandez Lynam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Think 9.5 is most likely

    3. AandyzZ
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Really wishing they price him kindly, they have with Ceballos..
      9 would be a push to get him in with my current draft but anything under that he’d be straight in hbu?

      1. GenerationalTalent
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Below 9 and he’s in. 9 or above I’ll wait. I have KDB so I could swap them. It’s just that I like Arsenal first 2 fixtures. It’s hard lol

    4. No Professionals
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn't risk him for anything over 8.5m. At 9.5 you're choosing him over proven big hitters.

      Wait and see for me.

    5. KAI SZN™
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      9.0
      Should be similar with Salah 1st season

  15. Chazz69
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    And now we have the Wesley and Ceballos benwagoners lol

    1. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure why people want Ceballos. He could easily play deep and that’s why he’s been priced at 5.5

    2. Wild Rover
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      You didn’t even know who Wesley was five minutes ago, now you are qualified to lol at owners?

      1. GenerationalTalent
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

      2. Chazz69
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        At Wild Rover. I still do not know who Wesley is, nor Cabellos

    3. Jurgen Flopp
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Wesley will surprise you

      1. No Professionals
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Think he'll surprise his owners more

  16. Hernandez Lynam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Which combination is better, assuming Zinchenko starts CS and early season as first choice LB, and considering I have Wilson?

    A Laporte & Perez
    B Zinchenko & Fraser

    With A I get confidence of City def cover and more overall goal threat, but with B I could move Fraser to the best Leicester mid GW3 meaning I capitalise on BOU first 2 fixtures and get to see who's best from Maddison, Perez and Tielemans. Tough one...

    1. Davidwes
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      B

      1. Hernandez Lynam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks for your response. Can I ask what makes you say that? Is it purely my reasoning or something else?

    2. Bielsa's Bucket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Perez (and Zinchenko) for me. Especially if he is partially OOP now and then. Have high hopes for an attacking BR team.

  17. Red-United
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Does anyone know what Bournemouth's starting defenders will be for the new season?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Leaky probably

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        How’s your BB coming along WR?

        I don’t think there’s many of us left now 😆 !

        1. Wild Rover
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Changing daily 🙂

          1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Same, I’m getting to the point where I’ve made so many changes, I’m just lost with it 😆

            Head loss!

            1. Wild Rover
              • 11 Years
              2 years, 1 month ago

              Actually pretty settled. Just need to decide on Sterling and 6m fwd or Sane/KDB and upgrade

              1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                2 years, 1 month ago

                Sane on the BB. I think Sane is only going to be a short term option, and is BB/early WC have the luxury of being able to pick some explosive short term picks. That’s my rationale on picking Sané anyway.

                Oh your not on auba then. Surprised by that, an arsenal forward is one of my priorities on the BB. Think Newcastle will get a battering and then arsenal have BUR GW2 which is nice.

    2. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Nope worth looking into. Better options

      1. cravencottage
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Not

  18. Galza-The Wanton Trader
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Here’s on off piste team for you guys to rip apart,(be gentle)... 🙂

    Pope
    Coleman VVD Cathcart
    Salah KDB Martial Perez
    Vardy King Kane

    Bench is Dendonk + a bunch of 4s.

    Martial is a bit of punt I am quite happy to start with and the rest seems pretty solid.
    I also quite like the idea of having a front 3 of penalty takers.

    How is it...??

    1. AC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I think as you’ve pointed out apart from martial it’s a nice team

      1. Galza-The Wanton Trader
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I think you have to have at least one punt in your team to make it interesting. 🙂

    2. Chazz69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I'd withdraw Martial without hesitation. Vardy too

      1. Galza-The Wanton Trader
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I could do, but then my team will start to look like everyone else’s which is kind of the point of picking them in the first place. TY

  19. Jurgen Flopp
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    A) Coleman Sterling Perez Wesley
    B) Digne KDB McGinn Vardy

    Which options lads?

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. ewangri
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A

  20. Lignja
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Did not change this team almost since first draft is it still good or should i change something?

    Ryan
    Robertaon, Taa, Coleman, Zincenko
    Salah, Sterling, Sigurdson, Perez
    Delufeu, Wilson

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Can’t really fault it tbh

    2. panda07
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Good team but what is the bench like?

      1. Another Hoops
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Very similar team to what I'm currently on. Difference is;

        Coleman is Digne
        Zinchenko is Ake
        Siggy is Zaha (if he goes to Everton)
        Perez is Fraser

        I imagine his bench is Button - Greenwood - Dendonker - Lundstrom/ 4mil defender.

      2. Lignja
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Greenwood, Dendoker, 4.0

  21. Davidwes
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Who is the best 6 mil midfielder option?

    1. Jurgen Flopp
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      McGinn 5.5m

    2. ewangri
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Yarmolenko potentially

    3. AC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Find the extra 0.5 the options are significantly better

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        CHO when he’s back fit will be one I shall monitor!!

    4. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Perhaps Mount

    5. Jafalad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      If you can go to 6.5 you can get Tielemans who looks the star value at present. Quality player.

      1. g40steve
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        5.5m 😉

    6. Chazz69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Moutinho, Wilnadum

    7. Brosstan
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Townsend will pick up points steadily across the season. Every other pick is a punt

  22. Kobayashy
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    I don't want to cause any conflict, but I'm thinking about setting up a (FFS) Members vs Non-Members league.

    It would be free to enter, and potential prizes for 1st, 2nd and 3rd placed finishes. The total combined scores of all the known members vs non-members would also be tallied at the end to see who the overall winners are.

    Of course, we would keep it even so only an equal number on both sides can enter. I'm mainly curious to know how much of a difference the access to members-only content (e.g. Fixture Ticker, RMT tool) has over the course of a season in terms of genuine point difference.

    Let me know if you'd be interested in something like this.

    1. AC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Let’s unite people not divide them

      1. Kobayashy
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Depends how you look at it, I'm bringing members and non-members together for some friendly competition.

        1. AC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Ahh it’s one site that people like, members or non members there’s no difference imho therefore no thoughts of competition

          1. Kobayashy
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            I know what you're saying, but in a way aren't we all in competition with one another? We can still help others and provide useful advice, whilst being part of a positive and welcoming community, but this game is all about friendly rivalry.

            All this would be doing is adding another twist by putting those with access to certain insights up against others who gather their data from elsewhere, but other than that it would be a relatively normal mini league.

    2. Jafalad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Interesting idea. I doubt with you'd get an accurate result though - there is so much information out there that most of us can access the data that is offered up in the Members' area.

      1. Kobayashy
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Sure, although I don't want to underplay the potential value that being a member has to offer. There's a lot of information out there but I'm sure a lot is done behind the scenes to provide those with membership access to the latest, most important (and accurate) insights. This would put that to the test!

        1. Jafalad
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Good luck, Koba!

    3. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I'll have a lash; in my experience the rmt tool will probably benefit the non members team though ..

      1. Kobayashy
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        That's true, although doesn't membership offer a lot more than simply the RMT tool?

        1. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Yep it does tbf ... good value for money. The ticker, comparison tool and personalised tables the most useful for me.

          1. Kobayashy
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Definitely. I'm not a member myself (for now anyway), but I'd hope / expect that the outcome of something like this would be to show that the membership is proven to give you a better chance at a higher overall finish.

      2. Gentle_Turks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Explain please...

        1. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          When I've used it previously I've not agreed with the number rating given for a significant number of players and their fixtures ... therefore did not believe it was accurately rating my team.

          1. Gentle_Turks
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            How does that benefit non members?

    4. Slouch87
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Problem you have with this though is that non members on here are accessing info as members from other sites. Not a definitive experiment tbh.

      1. Kobayashy
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Good point. There would have to be an element of trust that the non-members who do sign up are not known members on any other FF site, but if enough people entered then the overall score would still even out to determine a fairly credible winner(s).

        1. Slouch87
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          I like the concept though.

    5. Terry Tibbs: Top Pundit
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      What if a non-member becomes a member after the start?

      1. Kobayashy
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        I thought about that, and everyone would sign up with their username on FFS and if they did become a member after GW1 they would be disqualified.

        I'd also then have to balance it out somehow, potentially by removing the lowest scoring equivalent team, which is harsh but not sure how else it could be run.

  23. sfsfsfe
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Been tinkering with a 4-5-1 to get away from my first 4-4-2 draft which I had trouble separating from.

    Ryan (Button)
    Taa - Robbo - laporte - Walker-pieters (Reid)
    Salah - sterling - siggy - Fraser - tielemans
    King/jota/deloufeu? (Nketiah - Greenwood)

    If you can overlook the crappy bench situation i got going on it could hold up pretty decent.

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Nice, but what happens when Vardy/Wilson/Auba/Kane pop off. Some of them could become essential, and your team is inflexible to get them in

      1. sfsfsfe
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        The premium fowards take a pretty big swing at my team composition as it is. Not sure how to prepare to get them in without really starting with one of them in my first draft.

    2. Davidwes
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Walker-Peters will most likely lose hos place to foyth in gw3

      1. Slouch87
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Where have you got this information from ?

        1. Davidwes
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 1 month ago

          Based on comments Madde by potchettino. He basically Said that he trusts foyth to be tottenhams future rightback

          1. Slouch87
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers . If he's definitively stated this then we know who will be the RB. Do you have any links to these statements ?

    3. Jafalad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Yes that front three looks far too lightweight. I think a front three of Vardy, Wilson and Jota/Jimenez is the go to forward line at present. Affordable too.

  24. Gringo Kid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    A) Laport/Wilson/Jota
    B) Zinchenko, Vardy/King

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A 100%

    2. Jafalad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A. Zin isn't a confirmed starter yet.

    3. Hits from the Bong
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A all day

    4. Chazz69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      A by a mile

  25. Net Gains
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone thinking of playing their WC after 3 or 4 weeks and therefore not starting with Salah (given that he hasn't had a single minute of pre-season yet)?

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Thing is, he will start the Norwich game. After how narrow last season was, Klopp wouldn’t want to drop points this early. Given he starts, Salah would destroy Norwich. 2 goals, 1 assist.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Could

    2. Jafalad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      I've noticed there seems to be a trend on here of playing your WC early on just to get the right players in before price rises.

      I'm still in the "if it ain't broke..." camp.

      I'll be starting with Salah because he can do so much damage.

    3. AC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Going to try and hold off as long as possible would love to get at least 10 wks in

    4. Gentle_Turks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      The last two seasons I played my first WC at the last moment and it served me well.

  26. chasedreamz
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Now that Bale to China deal is called of , What are chances POGBA stays at United ? Should I use my 3rd round pick on him in 8 team Draft league ?

  27. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Which team do you like best- A or B? Same bench Woodman Dendoncker Greenwood Lundstram. Differences in teams marked *

    A
    Lloris*
    TAA Laporte Van Dijk Coleman*
    Salah De Bruyne* Tielemans Mount*
    Kane* King*

    B
    Pope*
    TAA Laporte Van Dijk Digne*
    Salah Sterling* Tielemans Moura*
    Wilson* Wesley*

    1. Cmondown
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      You've used your Sterling money well but A for me

      1. Cmondown
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Oops B I meant

  28. Coaly
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Best 4.5m defender?

    Targett
    Dunk
    Ward
    Kiko
    Diop
    Chambers

    1. Gringo Kid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Diop

    2. Chazz69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Dunk

    3. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Guilbert and Cathcart too!

  29. Hits from the Bong
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Think I’m happy here, unless Perez and Deulofeu can be improved on. Any suggestions?

    Pope
    TAA VVD Digne
    Salah Sterling Fraser Tielemans Perez
    Wilson Deulofeu

    4, 4, 4, 4.5

    1. Net Gains
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Perez to 4.5, 4th defender to Coleman

      1. GenerationalTalent
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Yep agreed. Perez and Tielemans double up is a bit much

      2. Hits from the Bong
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Interesting, but I don’t want to double up on Everton defenders if possible

    2. Chazz69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      2 Leicester Mid ?

      1. Hits from the Bong
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 1 month ago

        Don’t really see a problem in an attacking Brendan Rodgers team but I’m quite open to losing one. Will probably bring in a West Ham mid in gw2

    3. Cmondown
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      Perez to walker maybe (or zinch)

  30. Stevecat
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 1 month ago

    Which 2 out of these to start the season with?

    Fraser, martial, Lucas moura

    1. GenerationalTalent
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 1 month ago

      F and Lmoura