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Douglas Luiz could unlock value in Aston Villa defensive assets

Aston Villa have confirmed the signing of Douglas Luiz from Manchester City for a reported £15m fee.

Luiz, 21, has never appeared for the Citizens despite signing for the club in 2017, spending the last two seasons on loan at Girona in La Liga; a part of the City Football Group.

The Brazilian, who has appeared for and captained his country’s Under-23 side, joins Dean Smith’s squad ahead of their return to the Premier League after a three-year absence, with Villa’s transfer spending having exceeded £100m in the current window.

A combative, defensive midfielder with leadership experience at an international level, Luiz is likely to play in a holding midfield role for Villa on their return to the English top-flight, shielding a combination of centre-halves Tyrone Mings (£4.5m), Ezri Konsa (£4.5m) and Bjorn Engels (£4.5m).

The 21-year-old has also been priced at £4.5m, offering scope for potential value in his debut season with Villa back in the Premier League.

The signing of Luiz yet again underlines the ambition of Villa for not only the upcoming campaign, but their intentions for re-establishing the club as a heavy-weight in the division.

The West Midlands side have made a serious statement of intent in the summer 2019 window, and Luiz’s addition to the squad yet again highlights how the club are set on ensuring that the B6 post code remains host to Premier League football.

Whilst central defensive midfielders have often been shunned by Fantasy managers for their inability to pick up clean-sheet points and unlikely chances of getting forward, it is perhaps the wider implications of this transfer that make for interesting reading.

If Luiz can deliver on the hype that has surrounded his arrival at Villa Park, but perhaps most poignantly, have a positive influence on Villa’s backline, then this could be a player with significant influence over Smith and his squad’s defensive solidity for 2019/20.

Upon signing, Luiz spoke of his passion for helping Villa on their return to the Premier League:

“I hope I can be a leader in the team. I hope I can help by bringing the ball out from the back. And although I don’t speak a lot of English, I hope I can help out by shouting orders from the back and live up to expectations as best I can.”

Smith was also enthusiastic about Luiz’s arrival at Villa Park:

“Douglas is an extremely talented young player with an outstanding pedigree who I am sure will fit nicely into our style and system of play.”

The History and Statistics

Douglas Luiz (left) in action for Manchester City in a pre-season friendly last summer

As the captain of Brazil’s Under-23s side, Douglas Luiz is a player with the potential to add leadership skills to Villa’s squad and who could play a pivotal role in commanding their defensive unit this season.

Having started his youth career at Vasco Da Gama in Brazil, Luiz rose through the ranks to earn his first senior appearance for his boyhood club at the age of 17.

26 senior appearances followed alongside three goals, but the scouting system of Manchester City had seen enough and made their move for Luiz, securing his signature on a five-year contract.

The Brazilian was initially loaned out to Girona where he impressed in his debut season, making 17 appearances for the club.

City and Pep Guardiola were impressed with Luiz’s adaptation to European football having made the step up from South America, and attempted to gain a work permit for a potential integration into City’s first-team squad.

However the Citizens’ plans were thrown into disarray as Luiz’s application was rejected, and a second loan-spell with Girona was sanctioned with a view to the player gaining more experience before a re-application to the home office.

Another successful season in Spain followed for Luiz, as he made 29 appearances for the club, but was unable to prevent their relegation from La Liga having finished 18th in the table.

This form from a 21-year-old Brazilian who had seemingly slipped under the radar alerted Villa’s sporting director Jesús García Pitarch, who is said to have been an admirer of the midfielder.

An enquiry from Villa led to extended negotiations, and it is the newly-promoted side under Smith who have secured the signing of this highly-rated prospect.

Comparisons

 Minutes per shotMinutes per key passMinutes per interceptionMinutes per tackleMinutes per clearance
Luiz92.9148.770.878.264.7
Whelan141.7101.278.744.353.1
Hourihane38.747164.453.967.1
McGinn35.650.591.141.5143.6
Grealish4339.1174.678.1185.6

The Prospects

Douglas Luiz (right) in action for Girona

Central defensive midfielders are rarely top of the priorities list for Fantasy managers, yet the influence that Luiz could have over Villa’s backline in the 2019/20 campaign simply cannot be understated.

The club’s disposal of Glenn Whelan, released at the end of the 2018/19 campaign, has opened up a starting berth in Smith’s squad for a defensively orientated midfielder to shield the defence, and Luiz now has a chance to claim this spot for himself.

The underlying statistics attest to the fact that Luiz is unlikely to be charging forward and playing an influential role in Villa’s attacking efforts, ranking the lowest for minutes per key pass and second-lowest for minutes per shot from Villa’s four main central midfield options from last season in Whelan, Conor Hourihane (£6.0m), John McGinn (£5.5m) and Jack Grealish (£6.0m).

Yet in the spectrum of defensive solidity, Luiz ranks favourably – the Brazilian tops Villa’s midfield quartet from 2018/19 for minutes per interception (70.8) alongside being second for minutes per clearance (64.7).

Despite being relegated from La Liga in 2018/19, Girona placed ninth in the clean-sheet table, suggesting a considerable disparity in the attacking and defensive efforts of the Spanish outfit. Luiz’s contribution at the back certainly did not go unnoticed, and despite his club’s overall poor performance, Villa have certainly taken note of his defensive credentials as a holding midfielder.

This strongly supports the idea that Luiz is set to fulfil a role in Smith’s squad that is characterised by a combative, tough-tackling nature, but it is the wider influence of the 21-year-old that could be of serious interest to Fantasy managers in the upcoming campaign.

Villa’s opening fixtures are certainly favourable given their status as a newly-promoted side. Despite heading to the capital to take on Spurs in Gameweek 1, Smith’s side then face Bournemouth, West Ham and Everton at home in their next five fixtures.

The club’s defence has the potential to offer Fantasy managers an abundance of competitively-priced defensive options in 2019/20, with Konsa probably the favourite to start next to Mings in central defence while Matt Targett (£4.5m), Neil Taylor (£4.5m), Ahmed El Mohamady (£4.5m) and Frederic Guilbert (£4.5m) competing for full-back slots

The latter has been in fine form throughout preseason, registering three assists in separate performances to underline his credentials as a value-for-money full-back option for Fantasy managers. If Guilbert is able to combine this evident attacking ability with the propensity for clean-sheet points, which could be boosted by new signing Luiz, then there is even more appeal in investing in Villa’s defensive assets for 2019/20.

The specific example of Guilbert only points to a wider picture with regards to Villa’s assets and the potentially intrinsic influence of Luiz over their defensive prospects. Given City’s efforts to bring the Brazilian back to England, which were only thwarted by the refusal of a work permit from the home office, there is clearly a belief that this is a player with the capabilities to cut it in the English top-flight.

Villa remain confident that the increased wages offered to Luiz are likely to convince the home office of accepting his application for a work permit owing to increased taxation, and provided this is cleared prior to the start of the season then this is a player with a potentially huge part to play in the club’s return to the Premier League.

If Smith’s side can start strongly against Spurs in Gameweek 1, and follow this up with performances in the opening Gameweeks of 2019/20, then the form of both Luiz and Villa are certainly worthy of assessment for Fantasy managers in the upcoming Premier League campaign.

There is a huge amount of potential value in Villa defensive assets pricing, and the arrival of Luiz at Villa Park could be the key to unlocking that.

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  1. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Good to go?

    Kepa
    TAA, VVD, Laporte, Cathcart
    Salah, Sterling, Fraser, Robinson
    Vardy, Wood

    Obvious weak spot is Cathcart, but I think it's safer to go with a 4.5 def than to rely on any of the 4.5 gks.

    1. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Dont like Cathcart Wood Robinson
      Otherwise good

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks, mate. If I may, do you have any suggestion for me to replace Wood?

    2. Adambailey7
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      A lot of people prefer it the other way around. The Cardiff keeper last year was one of the highest scorers. They get rewarded for the amount of saves made

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I'd normally prefer the other way round as well. Not this season though: Ryan? Henderson? Don't fancy either of them.

        Burnley would be perfect if only we knew who's gonna play for them

      2. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Nice answer, cheers!
        Taylor doesn't seem very attacking (1 assist last season) what's the appeal with him?

  2. Adambailey7
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What do you think:

    Pope
    TAA, Laporte, Digne, Dunk
    Sterling, Salah, Brooks, tielemans
    Kane, Wesley

    Or I could swap kane for vardy and upgrade dunk to VVD

    1. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I like your team. Personally would go for Vardy/VVD.

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Really like the Wesley pick. Just brought him in myself.

      How about...

      Laporte > VVD
      Dunk > Stones/Zinchenko
      Brooks > (Callum) Robinson

      Appreciate you may want to keep Brooks for Bournemouth attacking coverage, but not sure that's wise. He scored quite a few of his points when Bournemouth had a few injuries and he played as #10.

      1. Adambailey7
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I chose Laporte over VVD so I had two city and 2 lpool players. Is Robinson any good? Ive not seen anything of him

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Difficult to know if he'll make the step up but was excellent for Preston last year. Has been playing OPP in pre-season and scored a brace against Barnsley.

          P.S. Upgrading Dunk to Stones/Zinchenko gives you the Man City defender (admittedly, not a nailed one but likely to start the season).

      2. Adambailey7
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Also didn’t realise that about brooks. I originally had king but he’s such a frustrating player

      3. Adambailey7
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Just switched it around and it actually looks really good. Taking your word on Robinson. Cheers mate

    3. LloristheHounds
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Same team except I have brooks> Fraser and Wesley>4.5 foward and playing either mcginn or Robinson as 5th mid

  3. Cynical
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Worth considering Martial and Pogba or nah?

    1. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Martial yay, Pogba nay (not for now at least)

    2. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      wouldn't go near neither of them

      1. Cert
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Why not martial? He’ll be playing up front

  4. Murder On Zidanesfloor
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    With Auba playing on the Right wing in preseason and Pepe primarily a left Footed right winger, do we see Auba playing on the left? Personally think he wont be that effective there

    1. Cynical
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I assume Lacazette is playing centrally? I reckon Auba scores plenty regardless but it does make me question 11m.

    2. yakirh
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      If they are playing front 3 formation my guess is Auba on the left, Laca up top

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I expect so. Have gone for Lacazette.

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Cazette had some injury no?

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Nah it was nothing

        2. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Ankle injury, not meant to be serious. Am waiting on further news.

          1. Bobby Digital
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Ok.. I'd rather see Auba up top, but it wont happen. Pepe looks good.. watched some hlights a couple of days ago. Looked like a 9 though. Dunno how he'll fit in.

            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              He is a right winger

              1. Bobby Digital
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Good.

                Auba Laca Pepe looks deadly. Now if they only had some defenders...

    4. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed. brings much less to the table as a left winger

  5. MrCloppity
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    What you think?
    Ederson
    Robertson,Laporte, Coleman,Ake
    Sterling, Pérez, Mané, Mcginn
    Kane, King

    Greenwood,Kelly,Rico, Button.

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mane likely to miss GW1

    2. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mané will be rested for 1 or 2 games

      1. MrCloppity
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        How would you get Salah fir mane?

        1. Cert
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I was in the same situation. Down grade Ederson or Kane to Ryan/fabianski and Kane to Vardy/gimenez or even rashford or Haller or go even cheaper with Jota

  6. adstomko
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Think I'm sticking for a while. Thoughts?

    Ederson - (Button)
    Robertson - Van Dijk - Walker-Peters - Holebas - Zouma
    Sterling - Mané - Tielemans - Brooks - Dendonker
    Wilson - Ch. Wood - Wesley

    1. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Do you have 0.5 to do KWP > Vertonghen?

      1. adstomko
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Sadly not, but I can swap Holebas for Cathcart

  7. JJeyy
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Mendy back in training... Zinchenko bandwagon already over

    1. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      0.5 more for Walker always made more sense.

    2. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Defo

    3. ChickenTikkaMoSalah
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mendy bandwagon anyone??!!

    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Takes stones to drop him.

    5. Bilbao Baggins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      He's not really back though. He's back in England yes but not full training. He's suppose to be out for 5/6 more weeks.

  8. Cynical
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Predictions on Pepes price?

    Anyone interested or wait and see?

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Most are saying 9-9.5

      1. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Usual guessing game crap.

    2. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      He's coming from a mediocre league.

      1. ENZO SZN™
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Salah was coming from mediocre league. And he was priced £9.0m, so I'd expect something similar for Pepe.

    3. Cynical
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I was hoping for 8 ish

    4. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wait and see of course but other Arsenal mids are 7.5, so 8.0-8.5 I guess?

    5. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Max 8.5

  9. bitars
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Jimenez & King or Wilson & Jota?

    Azpi or Digne?

    1. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Wilson and Jota
      Digne

      1. gers23
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Agreed

  10. TheSpecialOne
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    what do you think of this backline

    luiz coleman zin TAA?

    1. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Its nice. People are starting to get cynical about everton defence now though.

      1. TheSpecialOne
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        yeah im thinking of saving that .5 from digne. for the 7.5-8 mid interchanges.

    2. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Luiz and Zinchenko dodgy picks

      1. TheSpecialOne
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        was thinking that i already replaced them with azpi laporte and taylor.

  11. edgtmorris
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Please RMT and suggest alternatives

    Fabianski / Ryan
    Van Dijk / Zinchenko / KWP / Kelly / Lundstram
    Salah / Sterling / Fraser / McGinn / Dendoncker
    Vardy / Wilson Jota

    Been going back and forth between Fraser/Maddison and KWP/Coleman

    1. Alchim1sT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      If you go for 2 playing keepers i suggest 4,5/4,5 .. if you go Fab, just get a 4,0 backup und save some money

      Kelly and Lundstram might be risky ... if both play safely it will be viable, might get even more risky if KWP isnt nailed :X

      You might go Fab to Button and upgrade McGinn to Tielemans or Brooks

      Another way could be to downgrade Wilson to King upgrade your 4th mid oder 4th defender to give your squad at least some more depth e.g.: Wilson to King and McGinn to F.Anderson

      1. edgtmorris
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Pope and Ryan for the two 4.5s seems the best way to do that

        Will use the extra 0.5 for Coleman instead of KWP

        RE B'mouth, you don't think there's much separating King and Wilson then?

  12. Lovren an elevator
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is Valery nailed? Even with Cedric back?

  13. noquarternt
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Lloros
    Robertson TAA Digne Alderweireld
    Robinson Salah Barkley KDB Brooks
    Kane

    4.0, Nket Green Lund

    Just focusing on the first few gameweeks as a big wildcard or jump on to the performing players is the usual. Got 1.0 ITB, where would you use it?

    1. LloristheHounds
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Brooks to Fraser

  14. Pilgrim62
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Who do you prefer:
    a. Sigurdson and Fraser
    or
    b. KDB and Brooks
    :

    1. gers23
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Tough but I think B

  15. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Who do you think gets more goals and assists this season, Ward Prowse or McGinn?

    1. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Prowsey

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks

    2. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ward-prowse. Done it before.
      Villa may well be this season's Fulham

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        The villa fans on here talk a good game tbf. Very convincing

    3. gers23
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mcginn imo

  16. CostaCoffee
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Any opinions on this? Where would you spend 1m that I have left over ?

    Ederson (Button)
    Digne VvD TAA Taylor (Dunk)
    Sterling Salah Perez Siggy (Dendoncker)
    King Wesley (Greenwood)

    1. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Save it and upgrade Wesley once we know who's first choice striker at chelsea

    2. bitars
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      U need to do something about that forward line, but with one mil you won't come far.

      1. CostaCoffee
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Don’t think there is much value in forwards this season, I’d get Kane or Vardy but they’re prices are just awkward

        1. CostaCoffee
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Their*

  17. Lovren an elevator
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    If you had to keep 5 x 5m/4.5m defenders all season, who would you go with?

    1. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Holebas Dunk Taylor Zouma Ake

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers for the answer.
        Why all the love for Taylor? 1 assist all season

    2. Chazz69
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Duffy Holebas Diop

    3. Alchim1sT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Boly

    4. ENZO SZN™
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Duffy, Zouma/Christensen, C.Taylor, Diop, Holding

      1. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Can I ask, why all the love for Taylor? 1 assist only last year

        1. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          not even sure he'll start. such a basic one-paced player, think pieters was brought in as more than cover

  18. MikeLowrey
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Who do we think is the pick of the 6m or less mids. I'm trying to fit in KDB without getting rid of Sterling.

    Current mids are Salah Sterling KDB Donk

    Other option is to leave KDB, and use the money to upgrade Dunk to Laporte to have a back 4 of VVD, TAA, Laporte, Coleman

    1. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      My favourites: Townsend, Doucoure and Pereyra.

      1. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        A lot of Doucoure hype... you really think he'll come through?

        1. jtreble
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          He’s been a consistent value player the last two years.

    2. gers23
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Mouthino or maybe Noble for pens?

    3. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Schlupp and Norwood for me

      1. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        😆

  19. gers23
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Pope

    Ake Robertson Laporte

    Salah Sterling Fraser Moura Perez

    Deeney Wilson

  20. Dananz
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ok, I've just spent about an hour flicking through 76 rounds of Manchester City team sheets to find out how many times in the past two seasons they started without either of Gundogan or David Silva on the pitch. (I'm considering taking both as a cheaper alternative to KDB, with Gundogan on the bench for when Silva doesn't play.)

    The answer is ONCE (last season, Gameweek 32, at home to Cardiff).

    Now I know there are some holes in this logic, and I don't have the time or resources to investigate in more detail (e.g. Gundogan's PPG when playing without or with Silva), but on the face of it, it looks like there could be something worth exploring here. A saving of 1.0 on KDB for a practically nailed Man City spot that was the source of a combined 25 goals and 24 assists over the past two seasons could well end up being money well spent. Maybe...

    1. Dananz
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      And 59 bonus points over the past two years...

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Good research, cheers for that. Pep is an odd one though and he will have no qualms about playing Foden or even Zinc in LM if he wants to. The very fact you took so long to try to prove something should be a lesson, a good one too, never be sure about anything, with Pep.

      1. Dananz
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        True. No two seasons are ever the same. Teams always evolve.

    3. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Coverage doesn't work. Fancy Foden to steal a lot of their minutes. KDB and Sterling the better options by a far

      1. Dananz
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        You may be right about Foden. I'm not suggesting you can cover the entire Man City attack in this way, but it could equate to good value if the money saved is well spent. Of course, it could also completely backfire.

    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      First point, is David Silva @7.5m is 2m less than KdB.

      Second point, is that De Bruyne's season last year was largely interrupted by injuries. He may be over those now.

      Third point, you're trying to cover Man City's attacking returns. Take a look at FPL Virgin's hot topic which shows the players that have the highest goal involvement. Choose those players.

      Fourth point, Man City don't have a monopoly on the best players. You can get a very reasonable attacking player from the bottom half of the table for 5.5m / 6m.

      I'm not trying to put you off Davd Silva, just the logic behind the double up. Pep could use BSilva and Foden in central positions more this season.

      1. Dananz
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Regarding your first point, I was including the cost of upgrading a 4.5 bench fodder mid to Gundogan in the price comparison, so that's why the difference was just 1.0 mil.

        Secondly, that's why I went back and checked the whole season before too (when KDB was killing it).

        Thirdly, yeah there's no way you can really cover the Man City attack in this way. But it does represent an affordable "finger in the pie". But then where do you spend the savings?...

        Fourthly, yes that's a fair point. But I think that Gundogan might compare quite well at that price point when he actually starts. (But unfortunately I'm not a member so I can't confirm that. But he does seem to rate quite well in ICT for his price.)

        Finally, I really appreciate the time you took to reply! Thanks heaps for sharing your thoughts!

  21. TheSpecialOne
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    is holebas worth it? even tho hes a card magnet?

    1. SH1M1
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Ive got him atm, looks like good value being on set-pieces

  22. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Destroy it lads, thx:) 0.5itb

    Ryan,Button
    TAA,Zinchenko,Digne,Kelly,Lundstram
    Salah,Sterling,Bilva,Siggy,Perez
    King,Jota,Greenwood

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Very nice. I'd prefer the 4.5m attacker to be someone like Dendoncker who plays rather than Greenwood who may not.

  23. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    United CBs without Bailly?

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Maguire and liddl

  24. korbendallas82
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Ryan
    TAA,Robertson,Zinchenko, Digne
    Mane,Sterling,De Bruyne
    Wood, DCL, King.

    The team for tonight. Already not happy with strikers.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Kean may join Everton soon, DCL is a dud if so.

      1. korbendallas82
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Oh Yes. I Even read it. Thanks.

      2. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Zaha would impact his play time too. And on top of it he's missed some sitters in pre-season.

        Really wanted to go for him but not the time i dont think

    2. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      DCL is dead as a prospect.. Kean is the man

  25. Murder On Zidanesfloor
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Tons of RMTs but how can you bank those teams with pepe, dybala, Keane, Maguire etc yet to be finalized?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      No need for any of them from the start. Wait and watch is usually the best policy with people changing club, especially those new to the prem

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Anyone joining a club now has missed most of that club's pre-season. Big risk for GW1.

  26. Cert
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Please RMT:
    Ryan
    Digne TAA AWB Laporte
    Fraser Sterling Salah Perez
    Jimenez Haller

    Subs: Button Dendoncker Greenwood Lundstram

    Digne to Coleman? If so, what should I upgrade?

    Perez or tielmans?

    Haller?

    Thanks

    1. Cert
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Changed Digne>Coleman and Haller>Wilson

  27. MrCloppity
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Has Kane priced out this season?
    Iv seen a lot of teams people are sharing with weak forwards but both Sterling and Salah? Is Kane worth weakening a starting midfielder and Defender?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      He's very well priced, he's much cheaper than last year

      1. MrCloppity
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        So better to have then Sterling or Salah?

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I'm not saying that, just saying he's a good price. I'd go with Kane and Salah personally, but for most people it's two from three unless you want a load of dross elsewhere

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Yes, but you must cap him or what's the point?

    3. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Kane + KDB is good value without Sterling

    4. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      underpriced if he can hit the heights of previous seasons, which I'm sure he can do

    5. Stevie B
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Kane has always a poor start in August. I would avoid him in the first game weeks.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Old old news and false to boot.

        1. Klaren
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Given that he is still yet to have a good start to a season it's relevant news even if old.

          100% agree with avoiding him in August.

          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            He got two goals and assist last season. Keep up

            1. Wild Rover
              • 13 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              *assists

          2. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            What Wild rover said.
            I meant 'old news' in that was what was bandied about last season in particular ignoting the fact that in previous seasons he'd either been playing in summer tournements for England at national and aged levels or had nursed injuries.
            Last season dispelled the myth.

  28. MrCloppity
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Im a Liverpool fan but surely Kane is less a risk then Salah

    1. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      What risk?

      1. MrCloppity
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        To score points

  29. LloristheHounds
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    A) Robinson mid
    B) Grelish mid
    C) McGinn mid
    D) Wesley fwd

    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I'd stay away from Wesley, had a big dry patch last season. I think he'll struggle to find the net

      1. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Like Richarlison last 2 seasons?

  30. Stevie B
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is this team okay?

    Pope (Button)
    Alexander-Arnold, van Dijk, Zinchenko (Kelly) (Simpson)
    Salah, De Bruyne, B. Silva, Sigurdsson (Dendoncker)
    Vardy, King, Deulofeu

    Thank you!

    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Team is fine formatting less so.