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Douglas Luiz could unlock value in Aston Villa defensive assets

Aston Villa have confirmed the signing of Douglas Luiz from Manchester City for a reported £15m fee.

Luiz, 21, has never appeared for the Citizens despite signing for the club in 2017, spending the last two seasons on loan at Girona in La Liga; a part of the City Football Group.

The Brazilian, who has appeared for and captained his country’s Under-23 side, joins Dean Smith’s squad ahead of their return to the Premier League after a three-year absence, with Villa’s transfer spending having exceeded £100m in the current window.

A combative, defensive midfielder with leadership experience at an international level, Luiz is likely to play in a holding midfield role for Villa on their return to the English top-flight, shielding a combination of centre-halves Tyrone Mings (£4.5m), Ezri Konsa (£4.5m) and Bjorn Engels (£4.5m).

The 21-year-old has also been priced at £4.5m, offering scope for potential value in his debut season with Villa back in the Premier League.

The signing of Luiz yet again underlines the ambition of Villa for not only the upcoming campaign, but their intentions for re-establishing the club as a heavy-weight in the division.

The West Midlands side have made a serious statement of intent in the summer 2019 window, and Luiz’s addition to the squad yet again highlights how the club are set on ensuring that the B6 post code remains host to Premier League football.

Whilst central defensive midfielders have often been shunned by Fantasy managers for their inability to pick up clean-sheet points and unlikely chances of getting forward, it is perhaps the wider implications of this transfer that make for interesting reading.

If Luiz can deliver on the hype that has surrounded his arrival at Villa Park, but perhaps most poignantly, have a positive influence on Villa’s backline, then this could be a player with significant influence over Smith and his squad’s defensive solidity for 2019/20.

Upon signing, Luiz spoke of his passion for helping Villa on their return to the Premier League:

“I hope I can be a leader in the team. I hope I can help by bringing the ball out from the back. And although I don’t speak a lot of English, I hope I can help out by shouting orders from the back and live up to expectations as best I can.”

Smith was also enthusiastic about Luiz’s arrival at Villa Park:

“Douglas is an extremely talented young player with an outstanding pedigree who I am sure will fit nicely into our style and system of play.”

The History and Statistics

Douglas Luiz (left) in action for Manchester City in a pre-season friendly last summer

As the captain of Brazil’s Under-23s side, Douglas Luiz is a player with the potential to add leadership skills to Villa’s squad and who could play a pivotal role in commanding their defensive unit this season.

Having started his youth career at Vasco Da Gama in Brazil, Luiz rose through the ranks to earn his first senior appearance for his boyhood club at the age of 17.

26 senior appearances followed alongside three goals, but the scouting system of Manchester City had seen enough and made their move for Luiz, securing his signature on a five-year contract.

The Brazilian was initially loaned out to Girona where he impressed in his debut season, making 17 appearances for the club.

City and Pep Guardiola were impressed with Luiz’s adaptation to European football having made the step up from South America, and attempted to gain a work permit for a potential integration into City’s first-team squad.

However the Citizens’ plans were thrown into disarray as Luiz’s application was rejected, and a second loan-spell with Girona was sanctioned with a view to the player gaining more experience before a re-application to the home office.

Another successful season in Spain followed for Luiz, as he made 29 appearances for the club, but was unable to prevent their relegation from La Liga having finished 18th in the table.

This form from a 21-year-old Brazilian who had seemingly slipped under the radar alerted Villa’s sporting director Jesús García Pitarch, who is said to have been an admirer of the midfielder.

An enquiry from Villa led to extended negotiations, and it is the newly-promoted side under Smith who have secured the signing of this highly-rated prospect.

Comparisons

 Minutes per shotMinutes per key passMinutes per interceptionMinutes per tackleMinutes per clearance
Luiz92.9148.770.878.264.7
Whelan141.7101.278.744.353.1
Hourihane38.747164.453.967.1
McGinn35.650.591.141.5143.6
Grealish4339.1174.678.1185.6

The Prospects

Douglas Luiz (right) in action for Girona

Central defensive midfielders are rarely top of the priorities list for Fantasy managers, yet the influence that Luiz could have over Villa’s backline in the 2019/20 campaign simply cannot be understated.

The club’s disposal of Glenn Whelan, released at the end of the 2018/19 campaign, has opened up a starting berth in Smith’s squad for a defensively orientated midfielder to shield the defence, and Luiz now has a chance to claim this spot for himself.

The underlying statistics attest to the fact that Luiz is unlikely to be charging forward and playing an influential role in Villa’s attacking efforts, ranking the lowest for minutes per key pass and second-lowest for minutes per shot from Villa’s four main central midfield options from last season in Whelan, Conor Hourihane (£6.0m), John McGinn (£5.5m) and Jack Grealish (£6.0m).

Yet in the spectrum of defensive solidity, Luiz ranks favourably – the Brazilian tops Villa’s midfield quartet from 2018/19 for minutes per interception (70.8) alongside being second for minutes per clearance (64.7).

Despite being relegated from La Liga in 2018/19, Girona placed ninth in the clean-sheet table, suggesting a considerable disparity in the attacking and defensive efforts of the Spanish outfit. Luiz’s contribution at the back certainly did not go unnoticed, and despite his club’s overall poor performance, Villa have certainly taken note of his defensive credentials as a holding midfielder.

This strongly supports the idea that Luiz is set to fulfil a role in Smith’s squad that is characterised by a combative, tough-tackling nature, but it is the wider influence of the 21-year-old that could be of serious interest to Fantasy managers in the upcoming campaign.

Villa’s opening fixtures are certainly favourable given their status as a newly-promoted side. Despite heading to the capital to take on Spurs in Gameweek 1, Smith’s side then face Bournemouth, West Ham and Everton at home in their next five fixtures.

The club’s defence has the potential to offer Fantasy managers an abundance of competitively-priced defensive options in 2019/20, with Konsa probably the favourite to start next to Mings in central defence while Matt Targett (£4.5m), Neil Taylor (£4.5m), Ahmed El Mohamady (£4.5m) and Frederic Guilbert (£4.5m) competing for full-back slots

The latter has been in fine form throughout preseason, registering three assists in separate performances to underline his credentials as a value-for-money full-back option for Fantasy managers. If Guilbert is able to combine this evident attacking ability with the propensity for clean-sheet points, which could be boosted by new signing Luiz, then there is even more appeal in investing in Villa’s defensive assets for 2019/20.

The specific example of Guilbert only points to a wider picture with regards to Villa’s assets and the potentially intrinsic influence of Luiz over their defensive prospects. Given City’s efforts to bring the Brazilian back to England, which were only thwarted by the refusal of a work permit from the home office, there is clearly a belief that this is a player with the capabilities to cut it in the English top-flight.

Villa remain confident that the increased wages offered to Luiz are likely to convince the home office of accepting his application for a work permit owing to increased taxation, and provided this is cleared prior to the start of the season then this is a player with a potentially huge part to play in the club’s return to the Premier League.

If Smith’s side can start strongly against Spurs in Gameweek 1, and follow this up with performances in the opening Gameweeks of 2019/20, then the form of both Luiz and Villa are certainly worthy of assessment for Fantasy managers in the upcoming Premier League campaign.

There is a huge amount of potential value in Villa defensive assets pricing, and the arrival of Luiz at Villa Park could be the key to unlocking that.

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  1. LloristheHounds
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A) AWB
    Or
    B) taylor(bur) and targett rotation
    ??

    1. peteshuk
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      coleman or zinc if you don't have them then AWB

    2. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Coleman over AWB but out of those two B

      1. LloristheHounds
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Already have Coleman and zinchenko and can go AWB. If I go taylor and targett I can get Digne

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Get Guilbert. Way more attacking in pre season than Targett

        2. thepuntmaster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Coleman over Digne for me too. Maybe Taylor and Targett and Coleman and spend the 0.5 elsewhere?

          1. LloristheHounds
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            If I do that I can then upgrade Robinson to Grelish or another 6.0 mid. Or get dendonker and go Wesley or another 6.0 fwd

    3. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Fave user name in a while.

      1. LloristheHounds
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Haha thanks mate

  2. Pep's Money Laundry
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A. King & Coleman & 0.5m
    B. Wilson & Dunk

    I'm currently on A but I have little faith in King, so looking at alternatives

    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      This is a tricky one, understand your hesitance on King. Have u thought of Deulofeu? Quite a few 6.0 strikers who might be worth a pick nearer deadline too...

      1. Pep's Money Laundry
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I should have mentioned I've got Kane & Wesley.

        If it wasn't for the Bournemouth fixtures I would go for Jota alongside those two

        1. Boxwoods
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Get jota.

  3. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Here's my latest attempt with Salah, Sterling, Aguero...

    Anyone spare a thought?

    Ederson (Button)

    Coleman - VVD - Duffy - Kelly - Lundstram

    Salah - Sterling - Barkley - Schlupp - Norwood

    Aguero - Ings - Murray

    A little punty, but with the Aguero/Salah/Sterling/VVD/Coleman/Ederson backbone hoping it might pull me through?

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Give it up mate, you can't get a good squad with all three

      1. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Maybe the case... just not convinced by Kane or Vardy. Might be the wise thing to do though

      2. MrCloppity
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Ryan
        Ake,Robertson,Digne,Laporte
        Mcginn,Salah,Sterling,Perez
        King,Kane

        Not too bad

        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Where's Aguero?

    2. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I personally think a team with all those three is too unbalanced. If you then add to that City's rotation...

      My advise would be downgrade Kun to, I don't know, Vardy, stick to Salah and Sterling, and use those 3 million wisely

      1. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks, true 3mil can go a long way. Vardy would be my pick from the Kane/Vardy/Auba bracket but i just am not sold...

        1. sirmorbach
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I'm with Vardy myself. He sure will not score like Kun or Kane, but he costs only 9 million. Great value for money.

          1. Boxwoods
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Reply fail. This.

      2. Boxwoods
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        This

    3. Yossi
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      looks ugly, if im honest

    4. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Schlupp was mildly appealing classified as a defender but still not really at all

    5. waldo666
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I had Aguero, really wanted him over Sterling but just can't have him with zero pre-season minutes to date.

  4. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    I've had Coleman from the start (because of price + fixtures + the player that he is really), but Everton's poor performances are making me wonder. Perhaps Toby/Vertonghen are better options for the same price? I've been thinking Chillwell even considering the likelihood of attacking fullbacks for Leicester this season

    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      For me, the thing with Coleman is that even when everything is going bad he has the potential to just run though players and somehow find the goal. Is a real big pressure player. I think it's a good move to have him, though understand your worries.

      Chillwell has tempted me too

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks for sharing your thoughts. think I'll end up with Coleman. It's a toss-up at this point really

    2. peteshuk
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      is zouma still a viable option?

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Not for me he isn't. I don't know whether Frank is playing Zouma or Christensen, and I think he might even change his mind somwhere down the line since not one of them is really nailed

    3. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Don't get chillwell whatever you do, I had him for 13-14 weeks last season and got 1 clean sheet as a reward

      But u understand your Coleman worries, with Zouma & Gueye I can't see many cleansheets

      1. Pep's Money Laundry
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        *but i

      2. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks, mate! If I may, would you stick to Coleman or go for either Toby or Jan?

        1. Pep's Money Laundry
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          That's a difficult one, in the short term I think spurs will concede against man city & arsenal. So probably keep Coleman or downgrade if you need the money

          1. sirmorbach
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            I think you're right. I *could* use more money (well, who couldn't?) to upgrade Fab to a 5.5/6.0, but then again, I don't like the idea of starting a 4.5/5.0 defender.

            Like I said, Coleman it is. Thanks, mate!

      3. peteshuk
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I'm worried about the everton defence too

        1. sirmorbach
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Not a good feeling, eh? What do you think about the Coleman/Spurs dilemma?

          1. Willmissudimitrypayet
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Aaron wan bissaka?

            1. sirmorbach
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Not confident on Man United's defence as well, at least not for no, so I'd still favour Coleman due to fixtures.

              I do appreciate very much your suggestion though, many thanks

  5. Little Frank
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    I need to drop a million from somewhere - who's best to downgrade?
    a. Digne
    b. Zinchenko
    c. Bilva

    1. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Digne to Coleman, BSilva to Fraser

      1. Little Frank
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Already have Fraser, but good idea, might look at Moura for a short term punt at 7.5

        1. Boxwoods
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Bilva to Perez?
          Digne worth the £ over Coleman.

    2. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      seems like Zinchenko's playing time is a bit up in the air now?

      1. peteshuk
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        wan basaka is my back up

      2. UpAndAway
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Stones?

    3. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      There are better options then silva at that price point

      Change zinkchenko to stones

  6. MrCloppity
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Ryan
    Ake,Robertson,Digne,Laporte Mcginn,Salah,Sterling,Perez King,Kane

    Is Kane,Salah,Sterling worth the hit?

    1. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I don't think it is. Too unbalanced imo.

      But having said that I don't think your team is really that bad. I'd go Digne-Coleman, Robbo-VVD, and then upgrade Aké or Ryan.

      I also favour Robinson over McGinn as a 5.5 punt too, but it's a toss up really

    2. peteshuk
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      only if you believe kane will bag you 4 extra points every week over wilson etc.

      1. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Bournemouth fixtures turn after GW1 assuming they even do well against defensively strong Shef U

      2. peteshuk
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        ake will get you 90 point maybe kane 180 to 200. so 270 to 290 total

        wilson 150 to 175 and TAA 180 to 210 so the range is so much better.. 330 to 390 total IMO

        1. yakirh
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          He wont keep Ake forever

          1. Kiwivillan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Why get at all?

            1. yakirh
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              I wouldnt get him either

              My defense is liverpool city spurs everton

  7. Kiwivillan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Who wrote the article? Don't they know we are doing a Fulham?

  8. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    what do you think of my team?
    Fab
    VVD - Azpil - Aarons
    Moura - Sterling - Perez - Salah
    Origi - Kane - Deulofeu
    lunstram, dondecker, rico, button

    1. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Personally not a fan of Moura/Origi (i.e. certain transfers just waiting to be made), but I think you're well aware of the risks.

      I like Aarons as a punt, but not a fan of starting 4.5 defenders. I also think there are better options at 6.0/6.5 than Deulo (Wesley, Adams/King, Wood, Jota).

      If I were you, I would downgrade Origi to 4.5, upgrade Aarons to Coleman; downgrade Deulo to Wesley, upgrade either Fab or one in the bench.

      I also like Fraser better than Moura.

      Good luck!

    2. DeathoftheParty
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      The username name is good... The team is pretty pants.

  9. Arsenal97
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    RMT:
    Ryan
    TAA Robertson Digne Zinchy
    Salah Sterling Fraser Robinson
    Vardy King

    Subs: Button Dendo Rico Greenwood

    1. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Digne to Coleman, Robbo to VVD, Ryan to 5.5 (Kepa/Lloris)

      Good team, I also have Robinson as a punt

      1. Arsenal97
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Digne is on corners and free-kicks
        Should i get a 5m keeper instead ?

        1. sirmorbach
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I'm with Fab myself, so yeah I think so. But maybe that's unpopular around here.

          I just don't trust any of the 4.5s right now, not with the Burnley situation

    2. Willmissudimitrypayet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      You think Robinson is a certain starter?

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I think so, yeah, he was not cheap (not for Sheffield's standards, that is)

        I'll keep an eye on him, like I am keeping an eye on Ceballos and Barkley/Mount

        1. Willmissudimitrypayet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Oh really? How much? Gonna watch some highlights of him now

          1. sirmorbach
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Per BBC: "Newly-promoted Sheffield United have broken their club transfer record for the second time this month by signing Callum Robinson from Preston North End.

            The 24-year-old Republic of Ireland international forward has joined on a four-year deal for an undisclosed fee."

            Heard he's doing well in pre-season, fans seem to be excited. And well, it's a punt, 5.5 oop.

            1. Willmissudimitrypayet
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Must say I like the look of him. Would save 1,5 if I downgrade F Anderson to him.. Maybe Ederson in for Ryan?

              1. sirmorbach
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                I'm all for upgrading Ryan. Don't fancy any of the 4.5s this season. I'm with Fab myself

          2. Kiwivillan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Robinson was Villa youth and plays for Ireland. He's average

            1. Arsenal97
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              He scored 12 goals last season with Preston

        2. Willmissudimitrypayet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Would stay clear of the Chelsea guys for now btw..

    3. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Here's my team:
      Fab
      TAA, VVD, Laporte, Coleman
      Salah, Sterling, Fraser, Robinson
      Vardy, Wesley

      We are coming from the same direction I see

      1. Arsenal97
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yes we are
        But i am afraid from Liverpool's def as they keep losing in pre-season ?

        1. sirmorbach
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I would try not to read too much into it quite honestly. GW1 they have Norwich at home, things will surely settle onwards

    4. peteshuk
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      robinson >> perez
      Vardy >> wilson
      king to >> jota

      that would be a solid team with no leaks

  10. noahzark22
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Button, 4.5
    Aké, Guilbert, Coleman, van Dijk, Lundstram
    Brooks, Norwood, Salah, Pérez, Dendoncker
    Aubameyang, Wilson, Agüero

    I think I cracked it

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Norwood and Brooks over a Villa mid?

      1. noahzark22
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Brooks is at least proven, Norwood on pens I believe. Not convinced by any AVL mids yet.

    2. peteshuk
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      you have solved the algorithm

    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Bournemouth =1st worst away goals conceded and terrible CS fixtures after GW1 and you have Ake?

      1. noahzark22
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        No other 5.0 Def I like. Has goal threat, GW1 and 2 against promoted teams. Likely an early WC for me

      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        i assume the poster has Ake because of his attacking threat and two fixtures back to back against promoted sides?
        Ake can then be got rid of gw3

        1. noahzark22
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          spooky!

  11. FPL Blow-In
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Which is better:

    A) Coleman and Pope
    B) Holebas and Fab
    C) 4.5def and Pickford

    1. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      If you believe Pope is a starter then A

      1. FPL Blow-In
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        A is what I’ve had. B is now tempting me.

  12. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    With all these influx of signings at Villa, surely it will mean the team dynamic will be disrupted?
    Players have to get to know each other. Smith has to find the right partnership and blend etc.
    It could take them at least a month to settle?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      No

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Based on?

        1. Boxwoods
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          The gentleman is a Kiwi Villan.

          1. Kiwivillan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Did you just assume my agenda?

            1. Boxwoods
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 6 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              Ha! Just stating observed facts. No agenda attribution.

              1. Kiwivillan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Gender/agenda tis joke

                1. Boxwoods
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 8 months ago

                  [Feel only appropriate response would be some emoji, but uncool enough to know how to get those to show up on here.]

                  1. Kiwivillan
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    4 years, 8 months ago

                    : lol : with no spaces is one of few I know

    2. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Fulham 2.0, you mean?

      I don't think so. I don't see them as this seasons' Wolves, but I don't think they'll be relegated either

    3. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Ain't like they had much choice too

    4. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      3/10 played last season loans just made permanent.
      2/10 played under Smith before and know his system and one of those is just back up
      Tezeguet probably eased of the bench. Wesley is CL experienced forward. How is signing new attacker any different from loads of clubs

      Long story short prepare to be shocked

      1. camarozz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Well said mate.
        We are gonna surprise a few I think.
        Good busines by villa. Also Trezeguet played with El Ghazi for Israel..
        Smith is no dummy.

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Israel?

          1. camarozz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Egypt!

            1. camarozz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 8 months ago

              God damn it I'm wrong again. Can't have be El Ghazi he played with.
              Who the hell was it?

              1. panda07
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                El Mohamady?

              2. Kiwivillan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                4 years, 8 months ago

                Elmo

      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Oh alright fair enough. If Villa do well I hope Grealish gets a few niggles this season - not a fan of him after he jumped ship from Ireland (for obviously commercial reasons when he looked like the next big thing years ago)

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          It's hardly anything like Declan Rice situation

          1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            There are similarities there. But in fairness you are right the Rice scenario was a level up - considering Rice even got senior international caps
            The thing about the Grealish thing that amuses me though is that he is not likely to get international caps for England now.
            Yet he could have had a lot for Ireland at this stage.
            I don't think he can switch back to Ireland now as he will look a bit stupid.

  13. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Might be stupid, but isn't it better to go for a 4.0 gk that is less picked than Button? Isn't it then less likely to drop on price?

    1. FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Less likely yeah but I don’t see many people rushing to use a ft to change Button to another 4m gk or upgrade.

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Won't hurt to go for Stekelenburg instead 😛

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Get Pickford and stelkenburg job done for the season

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I have settled with Fab. Might be unpopular around here, but I don't have the money to go for Kepa/Lloris and I don't really fancy any of the 4.5s. Not this season.

        1. FPL Blow-In
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Fab is a good choice always has been

          1. sirmorbach
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Cheers

        2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I think fabinaski is good choice nice fixtures after gw1 gets save points.
          I have ended up with pickford and button (because all everton slots used up)
          Might take your advice and get a low owned keeper.
          Although last year (on reflection) I had Hudson-Odi his valued dropped like a stone and he was not highly owned.
          I believe the players drop in proportion to thier number of transfers out relative to thier ownership.

          1. sirmorbach
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Nice, good points. I like Pickford and would surely consider if I had an extra 0.5, but I am indeed happy with Fabs.

            Cheers mate, good luck!

    3. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      This is wrong. Players with higher ownership are less likely to drop as they require far more transfers out (10% of overall ownership). This is why players often added mid-season with low ownership drop like a stone. eg Tosun

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        10% is still 10%

  14. Ross From Friends
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    lads lads lads

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Should it not be two 'lads lads' - Ross can only refer to Chandler or Joey

  15. peteshuk
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    RMT please

    Ryan
    Alexander-Arnold Coleman Zinchenko David Luiz
    Pérez Salah(C) De Bruyne Sterling Fraser
    Jota

    1. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Solid. Don't really like Zinc, but ain't no perfect team anyway. Good luck.

      1. peteshuk
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        AWB as a back up

        i think id be happy with 101mil lol

        1. sirmorbach
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          If you find a way to get an extra million, hook a brother up

      2. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Zinc not nailed?

        1. sirmorbach
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I think it's pretty likely he'll play, but I don't really know what will happen down the line. If you're prepared to change plans, then good to go

  16. camarozz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Right here goes.

    Zinchenko/TAA/VVD/
    Lundstram

    Salah/Sterling(c)/Tieleman

    Wilson/Vardy /Jota

    (Button/Jorginho/Donker/
    Guilbert)

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not enough Villa 😆

      1. camarozz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Contemplating Wesley and maybe Kane for Vardy.

    2. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Good team. Again, like I said to our friend above: I'm not a fan of Zinc, but there's no such thing as perfect team. Not with these pricesm that is.

      (Maybe Jota to Wesley, Jorginho to Hayden, Zinc to Laporte?)

      1. peteshuk
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        zinc looks promising. mendy will get injured in training again until christmas and the pep will sell him to PSG for 90 mil in the transfer window

    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Jorginho will still be poo and really don't rate Bournemouth fixtures. People falling for trap of vs 2 promoted teams first

      1. camarozz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah I'm not sure on him either. If I go change Vardy out will get someone else.
        Not settled yet.
        Also have AWB instead of Zinc

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I could be wrong of course

      2. Boxwoods
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Agree with this insofar as King. Wilson/Fraser diff story.

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Had a look the other day. Bulk of Fraser returns against Brighton Fulham Huddersfield. Shef U and Villa far better than that lot imo

          1. Boxwoods
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Food for thought. I only have Wilson atm.

  17. BROOKLYN GOONER
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Are people chucking their Spurs assets after they just scraped past Real by one miserable goal?

    1. Norman Conquest
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      planning on getting son for gw3

      1. BROOKLYN GOONER
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        He does really seem to outperform his expected stats, but 9.5 is pricey for someone I won't captain. Still, when gw3 rolls around, might think about trading in Wilson/Fraser, if they're not doing the business, or else cashing in Sterling or Salah.

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Get rid now. Villa up first

      1. BROOKLYN GOONER
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Staying on message. Kudos.

  18. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Hm Digne or Coleman?

    1. Yip Jaap Stam
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      For me, neither

      1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        What's your defence?:)

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I was out of town visiting my sick aunt

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Well I have coleman and .5m in the bank in case of emergencies!

      1. sirmorbach
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        That's how it goes. Same here. Digne is obviously a better option but all things considered I think not better enough to account for the extra 0.5

      2. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Haha well played:) You think Digne isn't worth it? I remember his long distant shots and threat overall

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I also remember his red cards and threat of red cards (part of his overall threat) - in between his long distant shots.

          Personally I think both players will be close in points by the end of the season and Coleman should get back to form after his long injury lay off.

          I can understand why people would get both - but if getting one I would just get coleman.

          1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Thanks mate

  19. Till IE Mens
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    1. Tielemans or Perez
    2. Jota or Deulafeou

    1. sirmorbach
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Perez and Jota for me

    2. kysersosa
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Perez needs more games before making a decision. Not sure how deep Tie is.

  20. kysersosa
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on the 3-5-2

    Ryan
    TAA, Laporte, Coleman
    Salah, Sterling, Zaha, Grealish, Gross
    King, Vardy

    Henderson, Lundstram, Kelly, Greenwood.

    Probably my most balanced template so far.

  21. Scratch
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Well this is what i'm sitting on atm

    Steer / Gunn
    Robertson, Walker-Peters, Stones, El Mohadamy, Lundstram
    Salah, KDB, Jorginho, Noble, Dendoncker
    Aubameyang. Kane, King

    Salah (c) GW1. Auba (c) GW2

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Steer wow even Villa fans probably not getting. We may buy keeper before end of transfer window.
      Guilbert is first choice RB not Elmo

      1. kysersosa
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Be interacting to see that one play out when he’s recovered from international duty

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Elmo only replaced Hutton last season because he was injured. Shame because Elmo is good and Hutton rubbish

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Noble Jorginho 3rd 4th mid is horrific

      1. Scratch
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        I think Jorginho is an absolute no brainer. £5m penalty taker from a top 4 club. The plan is to shift Auba after GW2, probably to buff the midfield when there's a better idea of what's what.

        GKs are pretty much placeholders til next week. Too many unknowns in the £4.5m bracket right now.

    3. kysersosa
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Most top heavy team I’ve seen on here. A few too many rotation/started no risks for me -

      El Mohamady - challenged by Guilbert
      KWP - Foryth
      Jorginho- Kante/other Chelsea CM
      Stones - Otamendi

      1. Scratch
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Foyth is an embarrassment and (somehow) played Copa America. Same goes for Otamendi.

        1. Scratch
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Even if he was well rested, can't see Otamendi coming in for Stones until CL becomes a factor perhaps. Would be more worried they sign someone better.

    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      The Jorginho pick makes sense apparently he is given more licence to dictate play in the 4-2-3-1.
      Noble is a no go if he is off pens.
      Norwood is probably a better option as he is a key player of sheff utd.

      1. Scratch
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        You reckon the new striker is on pens?

        Admittedly i'm not thrilled with Noble in there. He's usually blowing out his ar*e by the 55th minute anyway.

  22. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Just read that "out of the blocks" community article.
    I was punting short term on Moura anyway, but some other suggestions for good staters were Rich and Pereyra.
    I have Wilson if it matters
    So should I stay with

    A. Fraser and Perez
    Or change to
    B. Rich and Pereyra

    I really think Perez represents possibly the best value in the game but don't like the fixtures but afraid of a price rise if I don't get in early.

  23. LeBoeuf
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    RMT

    Bout as strong as I could manage a team. Thoughts??

    Heaton (4.0)
    TAA, Robbo, Digne, Laporte (4.0)
    Salah, Sterling, Siggy, Perez (4.5)
    King, Jota (4.5)

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Don't rate King

      1. LeBoeuf
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Do you rate his opening 2 fixtures?
        Shef Untd at home
        Villa away

        I think there's a good chance of a haul in those 2

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          No. Will get nothing at VP. I'll be putting money on Villa 3-0. Bournemouth were awful away last season.
          King only 3 goals away last season.
          That leaves home game first up against team with least conceded goals in Championship who will be fired up

          1. Pigeon
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            You're having a laugh

  24. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Moise Kean at Everton? Any less than 7.0 and yes please

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Uhhh why him and not Wesley at 6m

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Well why Wesley over him? Kean did very well at Juve when he played, and Everton have excellent opening fixtures.

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Palace Watford Villa Wolves Bournemouth so so

    2. Scratch
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Not sure he's particularly good. I actually think the forward Wolves got for half the price will be a better signing.

  25. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Perez, Fraser or Moura to fill the spot? If Perez where to use 1M? Cheers

    Ryan,Button
    TAA,Zinc,Coleman,Lundstram,Kelly
    Salah,Sterling,Bilva,Siggy,***
    King,Jota,Greenwood

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      So vulnerable to hits with those cheap players

  26. kysersosa
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Best 6m and under midfielder (have Grealish)?

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Perez maybe - but I do not like those first two fixtures (just realised he is 6.5 !)

      Whichever of Mount or Barkely starts for Chelsea
      Hojberg for southampton - can get assists or goals
      Norwood sheff united.
      Perreya - Watford good fixtures

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I'm getting McGinn for 5.5

      1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah he seems good value, had him in a draft ages ago.
        Will this Douglas Luiz mean that Mcginn can get forward more now?

      2. kysersosa
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Him and Grealish is tempting!

  27. Willmissudimitrypayet
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on the The Robinson draft? Went from liking all the 7-8 mids to not having any, hehe..

    Fabianski, McGovern
    TAA, Digne, Coleman, Zinchenko, Lundstram
    Salah, Sterling, Sane, Robinson
    Wilson, Jota, Greenwood

    1. Willmissudimitrypayet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Dendoncker.

      If Sane is a pain in the ass I can always go to Son. Wan Bissaka if Zinch performs badly in community shield

    2. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I like Robinson but he's not nailed on, is he?

      1. Chandler Bing
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Very similar team though but I've gone 4-5-1 with Perez instead of Jota and KdB instead of Sane.

    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      I can't believe the hype over Robinson.

      1. Willmissudimitrypayet
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        Haha, you probably know more about him than me. Tell me about him, please

        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          He is not very good (Championship type player) who plays for Ireland plenty of huff-puff and effort. Busy type of player.
          Versatile player as well.

      2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 8 months ago

        He is not even one of Ireland's best attacking players and that says something!

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          I know right

        2. Willmissudimitrypayet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 8 months ago

          Ah, okay. So even 5,5 and out of position is not good enough?

          1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 8 months ago

            Only if you are absolutely stuck for someone at that price point - I think
            Personally I have no players at that price and have gone for two 4.5m midfielders who I will bench.
            At the 5.5m mark you are better off getting defenders I think.

  28. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    A. Wilson, Robinson, Coleman

    B. King, Siggy, Diop

    1. Willmissudimitrypayet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A for me, have all 3, see team above

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      A easy - I wouldn't want a west ham defender - really annoying lots of late goals conceded I seem to remember.

    3. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      King Siggy Diop sounds like a song by Poison

  29. Gooner97
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Pick one

    A) AWB
    B) Zinchenko
    C) Coleman

    1. Willmissudimitrypayet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      C all day

  30. hogree
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 8 months ago

    Has anyone done a hot topic on Wilson vs King + 1.5?

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      King had 3 away goals last season and opening 6 fixtures aren't that good. I regret starting with him last season over Wilson of 0.5 more I think.

      There you go

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 8 months ago

      Waiting for the Kane vs Wilson + 3 one.