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Is Liverpool’s defence still a reliable source of clean sheets?

Teemu Pukki‘s (£6.5m) goal against Liverpool in Gameweek 1 already has Fantasy managers concerned about doubling up on the Reds’ defence this season.

Liverpool kept 21 clean sheets last year, more than any other side, but are yet to register one in 2019/20 after conceding on Friday night.

Doubling-up on the Reds’ defence had previously proved a popular tactic this summer.

Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) is still the most fashionable of the Liverpool back-line, owned by 50% of managers for the first Gameweek.

Meanwhile, as the first deadline of the campaign passed, Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) sat in 34% of squads, and Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.0m) was in 24% of them.

Various combinations of these three defenders were also forming part of many a manager’s setup for the 2019/20 season.

12.3% of all Fantasy managers had both van Dijk and Robertson for Gameweek 1, 7% paired the Dutchman with Alexander-Arnold while 6.8% owned both full-backs.

However, after Liverpool’s opening day display, there are those who are worried about whether they should be so heavily invested in Jurgen Klopp’s defence.

Alisson is now set to be out for several weeks with a muscle problem

The injury to Alisson (£6.0m), expected to be out for at least a few weeks, is also giving some Fantasy managers cold feet about last season’s best back-line.

In this latest article, we will look at the data from Gameweek 1 to see how much we should be worried about Liverpool’s defence moving forward.

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Lessons learned from Gameweek 1

445 Comments Post a Comment
  1. kime67
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Yes it is.

    1. el polako
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Thats conclusive then.

      We need new topic.

  2. Adriano
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Looks like Rash and Martial are set to rise.

    A) Wilson to Rash
    B) Moura to Martial

    1. danlynch13
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Think they will rise tonight?

      1. danlynch13
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        B for that aswell

    2. Yank Revolution
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      No they dont

    3. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      No evidence of that on fplstatistics.co.uk

      1. Baltic Revolution
        3 months, 24 days ago

        This

    4. Whiskerz
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      According to what?

    5. AuFeld
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Martial if need to be.

    6. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Where are you getting your price information?

  3. pundit of punts
    • 6 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Thinking of shifting my team to something like this.

    Pope
    TAA - Laporte - AWB - Christensen - Coleman
    Salah - Sterling - Son - Mount
    Rashford

    4m - Dendoncker - Greenwood - Wickham

    Thoughts? Too crazy?

    1. yakirh
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Christensen and Mount? transfers waiting to happen.

    2. $carface
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Rubbish team.

      1. Hot Toddy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Agreed.

        1. Random Name
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          People hate what is different.

          Enjoy your template teams lads

          1. Hot Toddy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            3 months, 24 days ago

            Cheers buddy.

          2. $carface
            • 6 Years
            3 months, 24 days ago

            Clearly lacks balance.

      2. Vasqujg
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Somebody has to finished ranked, 4,000,000...this dude is a candidate

    3. _werre_
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Crazy is an understatement

    4. Boris Bodega: Holly's …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Is Son back in contention now? Or one more match ban?
      Otherwise good, personally I would avoid the Chelsea picks, but they're not bad...just punty, which I understand you have a penchant for.

      1. Klein
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Banned for gw2.

    5. La Roja
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Stop reading at Christensen

      1. La Roja
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Stopped*

    6. pundit of punts
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Cheers all 🙂

      1. HeDoesntWantIt
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        I don’t hate it. Nice to see a bit of variety.

  4. Jammydodger2018
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 24 days ago

    I’m more interested in the fact that Pukki is the real deal.
    I know he done well last season but that wasn’t the Prem.
    I watched the game and I reckon he we get a lot of goals again this season.
    His movement is brilliant and his link up play is just as good.
    Swapping him in for King. Newcastle up next.

    1. theodosios
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I'm also interested in that transfer, but who has bigger chances for goals/assists?
      King vs City, Leicester, Everton or Pukki vs Chelsea, WHU, City
      Coz they both have relatively easier opponents this GW

      1. Gregg Wallace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        I think Pukki could do better against more difficult opponents because they play with a higher line
        The timing of his runs are impeccable, he was getting behind that Liverpool backline so easily

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 4 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          He might not find as much space against Newcastle's back seven!

          1. Gregg Wallace
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 months, 24 days ago

            Indeed, I'm really excited to see how he will do against Chelsea

    2. Riders of Yohan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Agree. Will hold out one more game though to roll the FT

  5. _werre_
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Pope
    Robertson Digne Kelly
    Salah(c) Martial Fraser Perez KDB
    Kan King

    Bench: Heaton Lundstram Taylor Greenwood

    Any suggestions for near future?

    1. Orion
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Unsure on Robbo or TAA by myself...

    2. Whiskerz
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Looking to get sterling in at some point? Do you have a strategy for it?

    3. markloe
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Wait for GW3 then consider Fraser/King out depending on how they look next game

    4. Boberella
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Needs Sterling
      Pukki over King too

  6. Orion
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Should i go with:

    A) Rashford+4.5
    B) King+Barnes/Wood

    Third one is Pukki... cheers 😀

  7. OneDennisBergkamp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    What formation is everyone on?

    For years I have always stuck with 3-4-3 but I have started this year with 3-5-2, GW1 saw me get 80pts, but it something just doesn't feel right with that formation. Am I worrying for no reason?

    1. La Roja
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I’m on 4-4-2 and considering 4-5-1 after GW3, depends hot it goes

      1. La Roja
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        How*

    2. Boris Bodega: Holly's …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      4-3-3 at the moment. And you are probably worrying for no reason, you will only be two to three transfers away from changing it I am guessing?

    3. Whiskerz
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      442

    4. Swanremainsthesame
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      The Elite64 seem to be on 4-4-2
      I'm on 3-5-2 at the mo

    5. Spider
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      GW1 = 3-5-2

    6. Here Comes The Son ★
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      3-5-2 and love it.

      Soon to be a power 5 midfield.

      1. AuFeld
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        What is your front line going to look like?

    7. Valar(Keith)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      3 4 3 allows dendonker.. So I went for it.. No 4.5 strikers so I ignored 3 5 2

      1. Riders of Yohan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        This was my thoughts exactly

      2. LangerznMash
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        This logic ^

    8. Hot Toddy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      442 for now.

    9. Riders of Yohan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Midfielders regularly get the most points, especially those that should really be attackers. Salah, sterling, martial etc. All are playing as advanced as some of the “attackers” in the game

    10. g40steve
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      4 4 2 last week.

    11. alexdelarge
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Midfielders generally amass more Points, but with 5 obviously you are prone to less autorotation and have to go for cheaper ones without certain fpl-points

    12. Heskey Time
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      352 here didn’t like 3 striking options and 442 just seemed boring

    13. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I'm on 3-5-2 and like it

      Considered 4-5-1 a number of times with 2 FTs in GW3 but keep finding a way to chicken out from the plan due to the "second sub" issue, so still on 3-5-2

    14. baps sniffer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      5-3-2 with 3 big hitters. Not happy with Luiz as 5th def. 4-4-2 pretty soon probably. For me the formation doesn't matter. I would actually prefer mids over fwds, but the lack of decent 6-6.5 cheapies forced to this structure.

    15. Marty McFly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I’m on a 451

    16. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      541

    17. yakirh
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      4-5-1 that will become 5-4-1 soon

  8. One Wheels Enough
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Longterm:

    A) Ederson/Siggy

    or

    B) Pope/KDB

    Have Salah/Ster/Martial/Perez

    1. Hot Toddy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      B

    2. Whiskerz
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I think 4.5 is plenty on your playing keeper so I would never consider a). But I wouldn't think of these choices in terms of exact players, specifically with as little info as we have on individuals at the moment. Measure them as price points.

      So a) 6.0gk / 8.0mf vs
      b) 4.5gk / 9.5mf

      Which is the best distribution of funds?

      If you go a) are you going to want to release that 1.5 extra at some point to invest further up the field? Are you going to want to use up a transfer on a gk to do that? Or risk pricing yourself out of optimal team configurations.

      It's not such a simple question.

      1. One Wheels Enough
        3 months, 24 days ago

        I know that's why I asked it 🙂

        I guess just leave it a week and see how it goes - only prob is missing price rises as my only real enabler apart from Ed is getting 0.5 from swapping Digne with Coleman...

  9. Kippers
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    I have King and Jimenez at mo.. am I mad for considering Pukki?!

    1. Riders of Yohan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Not at all

    2. _nod
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      As a replacement or in addition?

    3. Hot Toddy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I don't like King but still wouldn't sell this gw. The power of 2 fts is more beneficial.

  10. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Wow. Kante confirmed injured. Kante having an injury-ravaged season (like KDB/Alli last season) could make things even worse for Chelsea's defence, and there's a huge sign that's what's going to happen with his recent recurring injury worries

    1. Original Pirate Material
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Didnt he get minutes at the weekend?

    2. _nod
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      What’s the injury?

      1. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        https://twitter.com/FFScout/status/1161295108828012545?s=20

        "A small injury" even though he played for so few minutes on return from recurring injury. That's usually a bad sign for the season

        It wasn't specified though, and I hope it's not what I think. Really like the player

        1. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          3 months, 24 days ago

          I think it might be important to mention that I'm a doctor at this point. So I have a knack for watching out for stuff like this with players

          1. HeDoesntWantIt
            • 5 Years
            3 months, 24 days ago

            Yeah I’m an astronaut

  11. McGowan
    • 4 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    What’s better:
    A. Rashford + 5.5mid
    or
    B. Martial + 6.5 foward

    1. Cheeky Onion
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Good Q

      B gives you more flexibility with a lot of 6.5 options up top

      1. McGowan
        • 4 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Tricky one. Got Pukki but not sure which other 6.5m striker is a good shout with nice fixtures? Maupay?

    2. Marty McFly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I think this is a “wait and see” situation.

  12. Heskey Time
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Is trossard to McGinn this week a sensible move for the long term?

    Current team is:

    Pope, button
    VVD, digne, zincenko, laud, Rico
    Sterling, Salah, Bruyne, Perez, tros
    Wilson, jota, Greenwood

    1. Licky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I would think so.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Save - Trossard should play.

    3. Here Comes The Son ★
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      You don't need to make that move this week. Worst case scenario Trossard gets dropped again and you have Lundstram who comes in. Some people are even starting him this week. You can afford to hold this week and evaluate with 2 FT's.

      Trossy boi will start though, dont you worry.

    4. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I have Trossard. I'd prefer switching him to El Ghazi (winger) than McGinn (CM) for the same price, but I'm holding for GW2. Coach's post-match comments hinted at a huge home game debut for Trossard against THAT West Ham defence, so I'll start him and trust my bench for one more GW, then reassess with two FTs

      Also encouraged by the fact that Lampard favoured Mount for no good reason in GW1. That's usually the sign of a nailed-to-be player. Would be an easier decision after GW2 anyway

      1. Heskey Time
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        The worry for me is that he will come on as a sub for a 1 pointer but I think I may well hold thanks

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          West Ham looked vulnerable down their right on Saturday. Trossard played left wing in preseason so could do very well.

    5. Marty McFly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I have Trossard and I’m holding.

  13. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    I have Fraser in my current team along with Wilson and was contemplating over whether to save ft or get Martial in.

    Yes Fraser to Martial after just 1 gw sounds a bit kneejerk but I'm anyway gonna take Fraser out next game for Martial with the amazing fixtures United have and Bou playing City.

    Also, for this particular gw2, I see equal points potential for Fraser and Martial.

    With price rises and points potential to consider, don't y'all think Fraser to Martial is worth doing this particular gw itself?

    1. Whiskerz
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Bou fixture is much easier on paper. If I had Fraser I'd hold for the villa game. No doubt.

    2. Cheeky Onion
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Save and do it next week

    3. Ole's at the wheel
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Kneejerk/ pre planned:
      he got the no9 was kind of obvious also from preseason. I decided to Start with Moura instead of Fraser just for gw1 knowing martial would be in and the Transfer was done as soon as the game kicked off.

    4. Respect My Authoritah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      No

  14. ZAWAd25
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Good to save a FT?

    Pope
    TAA VVD Coleman Zinchenko
    Salah Sterling Fraser Moura
    Wilson Jota
    (Button Lundstram Dendonker Greenwood)

    1. Cheeky Onion
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Almost my team exactly. Maybe Lucas > Martial before Poch starts rotating

    2. tyron
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      same front attack as me. i just did moura to mcginn. (kane in mind)

  15. Cheeky Onion
    • 2 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Is Adrian a no brainer now?

    Even at the expense of one of Liverpool's premium defenders?

    Currently have Pope/Heaton - don't see a major reason to change but such a cheap way into that back line sounds too good to pass on

    1. Wild Rover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Depends on whether you think the extra money is worth it for get attacking points or not. Certainly not a no brainer

      1. Wild Rover
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        *for def attacking points

        1. Cheeky Onion
          • 2 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          Would look something like:

          Pope, Robertson, Greenwood > Adrian, AWB, Pukki

    2. _nod
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      How long is Alison expected to be out for?

      1. Wild Rover
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        ‘a few weeks’

      2. Cheeky Onion
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Nothing confirmed, but I'd reckon at least a few weeks - potentially months

      3. LangerznMash
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        I think he will be in net against Shef Utd.

        1. LangerznMash
          • 3 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          Maybe Chelsea.

        2. Cheeky Onion
          • 2 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          If you intend on an i'tnl break WC that's perfect timing

      4. MTPockets
        • 10 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Nothing new from Klopp's press conference just now

  16. child of God
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Everton have good fixtures but are not filling me with confidence at the moment
    So should I stick with sigurdsson or move to martial?

    1. jimski
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Stick.

    2. Twitter: @Ze_Austin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Siggy had a goal hacked off the line by PVA, with what would have been a Digne assist

      Hope this helps

    3. Marty McFly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      When you buy Siggy you buy into the long term strategy of keeping him for steady but uninspiring returns. Just keep hold of him until you WC.

  17. WrightnBright
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Any details on the scout H2H league yet? Can’t seem to any updates anywhere.

    1. Rotation's Alter Ego
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Believe it's being worked on so it will be out this week, but not sure. It's a mammoth undertaking, as anyone that's done something like this will tell you.

      1. WrightnBright
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Cheers, yes one heck of a job I’m sure - will be worth the wait.

  18. jimski
    • 8 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    What is happening with price changes this season - is it normal to wait so many days before they start changing?

    1. Brosstan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I hope they changed it to make it less volatile. Price changes is one of the dumbest parts of the game and increases template forming.

      1. Bruce Lee
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        agree with that - but how does it increase template forming?

        1. Marty McFly
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          People jump on bandwagons and keep players to protect their squad value. Last season there were more transfers in the first 6 gws than the rest of the season.

          1. Bruce Lee
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            3 months, 24 days ago

            oh right i see... that stat might be because of the dead teams that stopped playing

            1. Marty McFly
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 months, 24 days ago

              Yeh that will be a big part of it

      2. teddypicker
        • 10 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        You could argue the other way round. If there is a template to be had, it's easier if everyone has the same team value

  19. Dynamic Duos
    • 6 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Boring week for me this , no ft I want to make, no stand out players that are worth talking about that I haven't got , just roll on gwk2 please.

    1. I Member
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      That's exactly what you should want after GW1.

  20. Ste-Rex
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Do BHA fans, or anyone who has an opinion, think that Maupey will start the next game?

    1. Marty McFly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      His signing is what stopped me from having Murray in my team. If that answers your question...

      1. Giorgi89
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        wise move 😉

    2. Giorgi89
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Interested as well! with Murray ATM, would love to switch to Maupay but need my BHA fwd to play in GW2

    3. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      doubt it

  21. Bruce Lee
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Quick poll...

    How many transfers have you made?

    If you have made any, what were the transfers?

    1. Chelsea91
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Allison to ederson

    2. pundit of punts
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      No transfers yet

    3. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      0 obv

    4. Garth Marenghi
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I went moura to mcginn, moura was always out after gw1 and I almost started with mcginn, that extra 2 million was too much to give up.

    5. Sloths
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Burnleys Taylor > Villas Mings
      My rotating pair of Taylor & Villa Guilbert were no shows 🙁

    6. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      None. Saving. 🙂

    7. HashAttack
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I've made 3 but it looks like you cannot check what transfers you have made at the moment ... another change to FPL?
      Wood, KDB and Fraser to Pukki, Sterling and Dendonker

  22. Brosstan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    To expand on my reply about regarding price changes. Why exactly are price changes part of the game? What positive do they bring. I only see negatives personally, it seriously contributes to template forming.

    1. People who dont own a form player (for instance Sterling or Martial right now) are additionally incentivised to bring in those players out of fear of being priced out and to increase team value.

    2. People who own players who have performed well over a period of time and thus increased in price are heavily disincentivised to remove those players because the price systems means you lose team value if you ever want them back in.

    What exactly are positives with the fluctuating price system?

    1. MTPockets
      • 10 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Adds another decision factor - risk vs reward of transfer timing.
      Although in recent years has sometimes gone too batshit for my liking.

    2. Dynamic Duos
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      There isn't any positives , it is all just a hindrance, making the game harder, why would you want it to be easy?

      1. Brosstan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        It doesnt make it hard, just annoying. Having non-decisions like "I cant really remove player X now because he has already increased .4 in value" makes the game easier, not harder.

        1. Dynamic Duos
          • 6 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          Yeah but trying to catch players before you get priced out , then some thing bad happens in you ie bans injuries and now starting to spend points , or you get priced out and now you end up with a player you don't really want to find funds then makes the game harder no?

          1. Bruce Lee
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            3 months, 24 days ago

            thinking about it... templates are way easier if there are no price rises.... everyone will have the exact same budget and exact same price list.... there will hardly ever be any differences between teams

            1. Dynamic Duos
              • 6 Years
              3 months, 24 days ago

              Agreed.

              1. Bruce Lee
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 1 Year
                3 months, 24 days ago

                can we be friends? i don't have any other ones

                1. Dynamic Duos
                  • 6 Years
                  3 months, 24 days ago

                  Sorry I'm best mates with Chuck Norris lol

    3. Bruce Lee
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      the purpose is almost a fallback for fpl towers... it is very hard to price everyone at the exact value they will provide... for example, mahrez and vardy were cheap in the season leicester won the league. their price increased due to the demand in the market... it isn't perfect and they weren't up to the price that they were worth, but it is something at least

      i agree with number 2 - i think you should get every single .1 increase in the bank when you sell a player. it works like that when you sell a player - why not when you buy?

    4. Ole Trafford
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I agree

    5. el polako
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Without price changes it would be dead easy to form a template team at any point of the season.
      Just copy and paste on WC squad of worlds nr1.

      1. Brosstan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Who cares if people points chase? Last week's team is never the best for the upcoming period.

        1. el polako
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          Yes but the core of the team often stays the same for a while.
          Without price changes template would be easy to achieve and game very boring.

          1. Brosstan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 months, 24 days ago

            I disagree completely. Template is forced by price changes for the reasons outlined above. If price changes werent a thing then someone could feasibly decide to sell a popular player to be ahead of the curve but the price system makes that not an option because you lose value.

            1. el polako
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              3 months, 24 days ago

              Or you can use the value you "earned" to upgrade player x to player y.

              You are wrong about template.
              With TV always at 100m you can without problem copy somebody else's team, now go and try to copy team of TV of 106m whrn yours is 101.5m - cant be done you are forced to find diffrrent pl

              1. el polako
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                3 months, 24 days ago

                *different players.

              2. Brosstan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                3 months, 24 days ago

                "You are wrong". Yea, no point discussing any more. Exactly the things you said in your post are reason why the price changes force template because people dont want to end up in that position late season.

                1. el polako
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 2 Years
                  3 months, 24 days ago

                  Yet teams and values are different at end of the season, with constant value of players their would be much less variaety between squads - simple maths.

      2. fplars
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Not sure if I agree. The world's no 1 will not usually be because of superior squad or team value, but by doing the right choices week in, week out. Wildcarding to that team will perhaps help a poor player get a better squad structure, but for a decent player I wouldn't think the no 1 player has done something magic that you wouldn't had considered otherwise.

        I think no price changes would mean fewer template teams as you'll be able to transfer out anyone on your team without thinking about losing money. The template forms because you get a core group of players that no one dares selling due to having too much value tied up in those players.

    6. Marty McFly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      This is a bit like asking why prices change on the stock exchange.

      Early adopters and people willing to take educated risks get rewarded.

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 6 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Boom i like this

      2. EMBOLOFAN
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        exactly

      3. Brosstan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Its not the same as the stock exchange at all.

        1. Marty McFly
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          I didn’t say it was the same. But it’s a fairly reasonable analogy I think. Is there any reason you don’t think it’s a worthwhile comparison?

    7. Respect My Authoritah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Both 1&2 could be argued to be positives rather than negatives

    8. jimski
      • 8 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Still think it's odd that no player's price has yet changed.

      1. Marty McFly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        It’s usually based on a percentage of overall players making a transfer. There are a lot of players this year, which may suggest price changes will be slower.

    9. tuvok
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I don’t think improving gameplay is the primary reason for price changes. Like all free to access internet products, FPL prioritises gambling-like techniques proven to increase usage time & therefore ad revenue.

      The first thing a lot of people do in the morning and the last thing at night is scroll on FB/Twitter which is like a slot machine for dopamine. I’d guess checking FPL prices is one of the first things us addicts do in the morning, and checking who might fall/rise is one of the last things we do at night!

      There would be so much more down time if there were no price changes. I certainly wouldn’t be considering transfer so much this gameweek if there weren’t.

      1. EMBOLOFAN
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        it isnt this

    10. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      It’s the problem for all football managers - who can they afford, players who hit form rise in value because they are in demand and wanted by many - I wouldn’t have it any other way

    11. fplars
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Totally agree, I see no positives.

      Also, I don't really understand why it is universally accepted that the rules behind the price changes are hidden. We spend so much time planning our teams and transfers, and then your plan could be ruined by an unexpected price change that you had no way of predicting. Makes no sense to me. I don't recall ever seeing an article here about this either, which is weird when it is such an important part of the game.

      My best guess is that part of the reason to keep the price changes is to generate site traffic throughout the week?

      1. Marty McFly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Not sure it’s accurate to say there’s no way of predicting it... there are a lot of free tools out there that help predict changes. You can also predict it based on recent performances (so without even checking I can tell you Sterling will be a high riser this week because his ownership was fairly modest and he scored 3 goals). Similarly, if a player has blanked for 3 weeks and has (mci, liv, tot) coming up, he probably won’t rise.

        1. fplars
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          Well, the free tools aren't part of the official game. It would be weird if the makers of the official game defended their hidden rules by pointing to these tools. Then they should make an official tool instead.

          Predicting based on performances works for the obvious ones like when someone scores 3, and it's easiest this week as everyone starts at 0%. But the problem is the not so obvious ones, and you'll get a lot of them during the season.
          And even what you are suggesting, that ownership plays a part in this, is not official. Of course everyone here knows it, but for a random player trying to figure this out based on the official information is simply not possible at all.

    12. RichardNixon
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Imo a hindrance to the game is that there is only one free transfer per week. Should be two freebies per week I reckon

      1. Gnu Scott talent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        People are being spoonfed these days, big massive spoonfuls of info which created an ever bigger template than before.
        2 free transfers? I honestly don't think I would continue playing with an even more dumbed down game.

      2. HashAttack
        • 2 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        I'd like a mandatory -8 each week but you have 3 free transfers (no roll overs) ... if you don't manage your team weekly then you are going to lose out ... dead teams would be crippled

        I don't have any issues with getting only half the profit when you sell a player .. I just don't pay any attention to TV as it's all about SV (if your strategy includes increasing SV for use later in season)

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 months, 23 days ago

          Its a strategy game not an arcade game! Would you be in favour of people getting three free shots each time at a pool table also with shots carrying or of getting three free goes at chess before the other player goes.

  23. Lyonnais
    • 7 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Not possible to see rivals money itb and gameweek transfers anymore?

    1. Brosstan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      No, looks like its removed finally.

    2. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Nope.

    3. Lyonnais
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      thx

  24. Chelsea91
    • 1 Year
    3 months, 24 days ago

    I plan to bench kane this week, hope city solid at back

    1. Ole Trafford
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Ridiculous really

      1. Chelsea91
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        I do not think kane will score, city have good record against spurs

        1. Ole Trafford
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          11m player on the bench. Kane can score against anyone.

          1. Chelsea91
            • 1 Year
            3 months, 24 days ago

            I hope he can score, against villa i can see he seems luck to have two goal

            1. Ole Trafford
              • 7 Years
              3 months, 24 days ago

              Best of luck

              1. Chelsea91
                • 1 Year
                3 months, 24 days ago

                I just worried about the rank, i am sure all the kane owner will start him

    2. Brosstan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Look up the score in the last game between the two sides 😉

      1. Chelsea91
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        City win 1-0

        1. Brosstan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          🙁

    3. Licky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I won't be doing that, but I guess you gotta back yourself.

      1. Chelsea91
        • 1 Year
        3 months, 24 days ago

        I think he will struggle against city defend

        1. Licky
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 months, 24 days ago

          City's defense isn't that good, if Spurs get at them there will be goals.

          1. EMBOLOFAN
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            3 months, 24 days ago

            it is but you still dont bench kane

    4. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      lmao

    5. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      What's your starting eleven?

    6. LangerznMash
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I'm thinking about Captaining Lucas Moura... can see him getting in-behind City's high defensive line, and targetting Zinchenko as a weakness.

  25. Ole Trafford
    • 7 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Save ft here right?

    Heaton
    Robertson, VVD, Digne, Maguire
    Salah(c), Sterling, Martial, Perez
    Wilson, Wood

    Button, Dendonker, Greenwood, Frederics

    1. pundit of punts
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Yes

      1. Ole Trafford
        • 7 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        Thanks. Wood to Pukki crosses my mind but I need to have more patience this season!!

    2. Chelsea91
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Save

    3. Little Red Lacazette
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Save

  26. DaveyGee
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Play Lundstram ahead of Zinchenko?

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      what? no

    2. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Nah, Lundstram first sub though.

  27. zaydon
    • 5 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Adrian
    Robertson- zinchenco-maitland- rico
    Mane-sterling-martial
    Kane-rashford- pukki

    Button- lundstorm-leitner- dondon
    I’m going to play with 433 what do u think guys? I’m on wc

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      dont wc

    2. Beizer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Some players (Rico, Adrian, Maitland Niles) who might lose their spots (bellerin, Daniels?!) but for the next three weeks or so it looks good to me.

      1. LangerznMash
        • 3 Years
        3 months, 24 days ago

        AMN is nailed for a few months.

        1. Beizer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          3 months, 24 days ago

          One month until he starts training, but of course he is save for more than three weeks, you are right.... Zinchenko is a rotation risk I guess.

  28. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    Captain:

    A) Auba at home to Burnley
    B) Salah away at Southampton

    1. Little Red Lacazette
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      B.

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Most likely rolling with A. Hoping we'll get some news indicating a couple of the big guns will be back

    3. Eytexi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      B

    4. EMBOLOFAN
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      3 months, 24 days ago

      a

    5. Rinseboy
      • 7 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      B at this early stage of the season

    6. _nod
      • 6 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I'm on A, but B isn't an option for me.

    7. JohnRoss
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Salah safer imo

  29. diesel001
    • 3 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    An old story, which I just read. Pretty poor that most of the PL clubs don't pay a living wage. Clearly not enough money in the game. Fair play though to Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool and West Ham for doing so.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49288182

    1. Brosstan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      Expected an article about Danny Rose.

  30. JohnRoss
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 months, 24 days ago

    A free transfer is like a plain bun. Some nutrition but not that tasty. 2fts is like having a juicy burger in it innit. If you want pickle, cheese, onion, ketchup/mustard, lettuce, tomato then wait a few weeks and hand over your wildcard at the counter. Thank you. R McD.

    1. diesel001
      • 3 Years
      3 months, 24 days ago

      I am against beef burgers as they are bad for the environment and are a factor in climate change.

      (Just kidding, but I know it will trigger some people on here)