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What FPL managers can expect from Watford boss Quique Sanchez Flores

The first managerial casualty of the 2019/20 Premier League season came on Saturday, as bottom-of-the-table Watford parted ways with Javi Gracia.

Gracia’s dismissal was swiftly followed by the appointment of Quique Sanchez Flores as head coach, with the 54-year-old Spaniard rejoining the club he had left in May 2016.

Upon his unveiling, Gracia said:

It was a very easy decision [to rejoin]. I’ve been a coach for 16 years and the time I spent in Watford, I was really happy. It was a good experience and this experience was amazing. I loved the way the fans love football in England, the way they support and the way they respect rules in England and everything. The moment I left I was waiting for the moment to come back to England. I feel Watford is my home.

In this article, we look back at Flores’ previous spell at Vicarage Road and analyse his managerial style to see what Fantasy managers can expect from the Hornets’ returning head coach.

Long-time site user Bøwstring The Carp has beaten us to the punch with a study of Flores and we can wholeheartedly recommend his excellent Community piece, which can be read here.

What Has Flores Said About His Managerial Style?

Speaking to the club website following his appointment, Flores said of his defence-first policy:

It’s important. Defence is the most important thing in all the collective sports. Defence is the key for everything. If you want to attack well it is necessary to defend well.

I follow a lot NBA and when Toronto Raptors won the NBA, some journalist goes to the coach and asked what is the key. He said the key was the passion and the defence. This is the base for everything. It could be good for Watford.

Talking about his goals for the season:

The priority is results. We know the schedule is really bad now, but everything is possible with a positive mentality of the players, with the fans supporting us, with the passion, everything is possible.

We need to be realistic. Now we are bottom, but the first mentality is we don’t want to go back. We don’t want relegation. We need to put the team in the condition to keep growing. We need to be humble and the first thing is to save the situation, establish the team in a different position. Once we are established in a different position, we can talk about the next goal for this year.

Flores’ comments, then, suggest that he will be placing a lot of emphasis on improving Watford’s main Achilles heel for much of 2019: their defence.

The Hornets are without a league clean sheet since February, a barren run that stretches back 16 top-flight matches.

No other Premier League club has conceded as many ‘big chances’ (70) as Watford this calendar year.

Asked about the wealth of attacking options he now has at his disposal in relation to his defensive mindset, Sanchez said:

We have young players, very fast in attack. This is interesting. We have more than we had four years ago. We had two main, Deeney and Ighalo, but… now we have more and we have different qualities and skills. We need to guess how they are working together and need to know as soon as possible how they mix in the match.

Which Players Has Flores Worked With at Watford Before?

Flores’ one season in charge of the Hornets came in 2015/16, when he steered Watford to a 13th-place finish in their first season back in the top flight.

Six of the squad he worked with in that campaign remain at the club: Heurelho Gomes (£4.5m), Sebastian Prodl (£4.0m), Jose Holebas (£4.8m), Craig Cathcart (£4.4m), Etienne Capoue (£4.9m) and Troy Deeney (£6.3m).

Gomes, Cathcart, Capoue and Deeney were regulars under their returning boss, with each starting at least 33 Premier League games in that campaign.

Prodl began the season as a first-choice at centre-back, making nine successive starting XIs at the beginning of the campaign, but was then in and out of the side for the remainder of 2015/16 and didn’t string together more than two consecutive starts beyond this point.

Holebas was not favoured by Flores for much of the season, making only 11 starts in the top flight.

Interestingly, Deeney’s best single-season goal haul in the Premier League came under Flores: the Watford club captain, who is currently out for two months with a knee injury, scored on 13 occasions in 38 appearances.

Strike partner Odion Ighalo notched 15 goals in that campaign.

What Formation Did Flores Use at Watford?

On the face of it, there aren’t too many dissimilarities with Gracia’s set-up over the past year.

Flores favoured a back four for pretty much his entire season in charge of the Hornets, either using a standard 4-4-2 or tweaking the system slightly to a 4-3-1-2.

Capoue was, as he is now, one of the two combative players in the double-pivot, while Cathcart was a near-permanent fixture in a two-man central defence.

Deeney played with Gerard Deulofeu (£6.3m) alongside him for much of last season but Flores favoured another physical forward alongside the club captain in his tenure, in the form of Ighalo – although the Nigerian was no slouch on the ball.

Holebas and the pacy Ikechi Anya were occasionally deployed at left-back but Flores settled on a physical full-back pairing of Allan Nyom and Nathan Ake for much of the second half of the campaign, which perhaps opens up the possibility of the Craig Dawson (£4.9m) being moved over to right-back – as he was at West Brom under Tony Pulis – should Flores opt to ditch the attack-minded Daryl Janmaat/Kiko Femenia (£4.4m) in favour of a more defensively sound option.

Almen Abdi, a central midfielder by trade, was shunted out to the right flank for much of the 2015/16 season, with Flores deprived of too many natural wingers in his newly promoted squad.

Whether the pragmatic Flores would have opted for a flair player out wide had more been available is another question, though: Nordin Amrabat was brought in during the January transfer window but was handed only four starts and was used mostly as an impact substitute.

With the likes of Ismaila Sarr (£6.4m) and Roberto Pereyra (£5.8m) now at his disposal, it will be interesting to see how much trust Flores places in attack-minded assets who are perhaps not renowned for their defensive aptitude.

This excellent video from The Coaches Voice sees Flores talking through his tactics in the 3-0 win over Liverpool in December 2015:

Watford: 2015/16 v 2018/19 – Basic Stats

SeasonPWDLFAPTSCS
2015/16381291740504511
2018/1938148165259507

Comparing Watford’s record under Flores in 2015/16 to Gracia’s last full season in charge perhaps sums up the two managers.

Flores’ approach garnered four more clean sheets and saw nine fewer goals conceded but that came at the expense of productivity at the other end of the pitch.

Of the 40 goals that the Hornets recorded in 2015/16, 28 were scored by Ighalo and Deeney. Not one other Watford player scored more than two league goals that season.

Watford: 2015/16 v 2018/19 – Underlying Stats

For the below comparisons, we will detail where Watford ranked among Premier League clubs for key underlying stats (1st being the best possible figure, 20th the worst).

Defensive
SeasonShots concededShots in the box concededShots on target concededBig chances concededChances from set plays conceded
2015/1610th10th13th=14th7th=
2018/199th12th14th19th15th=
Attacking
SeasonShotsShots in the boxShots on targetBig chancesChances from set plays
2015/1612th13th=15th13th17th
2018/1916th12th12th8th18th

Again, the key numbers (shots in the box, efforts on target and big chances) suggest Watford were more solid defensively under Flores but less of an attacking threat.

The Hornets created 51 big chances in 2015/16 compared to 81 last season but they conceded 32 fewer gilt-edged chances under Flores (66) than they did in Gracia’s final full season in charge (98).

Flores’ other managerial work

Since his departure from Watford, Flores has spent almost two years at Espanyol and then seven months at Chinese club Shanghai Greenland Shenhua FC.

Espanyol kept 11 clean sheets in 2016/17 and had banked nine shut-outs when Flores was dismissed ahead of Gameweek 34 of the following campaign.

That last season in charge of the La Liga club saw Espanyol really struggle for goals, scoring just 26 in the 33 matches that Flores oversaw.

Flores used a 4-4-2 for a large chunk of his time in Spain but we also saw a 4-2-3-1 used on several occasions: a system Flores had a reputation of playing before he first arrived in the Premier League in June 2015.

The Watford boss didn’t have much time to settle in China, lasting just 17 league and cup games before departing.

Flores lost nine of his 15 league games in charge, experimenting with wing-back systems and back fours before his departure in July of this year.

Final Thoughts

Watford sit bottom of our Season Ticker for both attack and defence over the next five Gameweeks, which perhaps gives Fantasy managers a nice audition period before the fixtures turn favourable in Gameweek 10.

We’ll be paying particular attention to what effect Flores can have on the Hornets’ porous backline, not just in relation to Watford’s own budget defensive assets (all of whom now cost less than £5.0m in FPL) but also how any improvement might affect Manchester City and Spurs’ attacking options in Gameweeks 6 and 9.

Flores’ reputation for pragmatic football would perhaps not bode well for Watford’s offensive assets but Deeney proved in 2015/16 that individual FPL players can still prosper in the Spaniard’s set-up, regardless of the approach.

Goals haven’t flowed from midfield in the past under Watford’s new head coach, so we will be keeping an eye on the underlying stats over the coming weeks to see if Pereyra et al are suffering in that regard: regular wide midfielders Abdi and Jose Manuel Jurado had just one big chance between them in the whole of 2015/16.

Flores has, arguably, a more talented squad at his disposal than he did in 2015/16, however, so will perhaps show a tad more ambition with his tactics.



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939 Comments Post a Comment
  1. milanista10
    • 7 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    No Pool defense:
    A) AWB to Matip for free
    B) Save transfer and do AWB & Lanzini to TAA & Cantwell next week

    A or B lads?

    1. liverpool01
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      B

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      b

    3. acesingh
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Is Matip now the most likely starter over Gomez? 5.4 is good value for Liverpool defence if he plays most games....

      1. liverpool01
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Looks that way has played well and just extended his contract by 1 year, but you never know I expect Gomez to start soon.

    4. Ask Yourself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      B for a hit now? TAA will haul I think

      1. milanista10
        • 7 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        He might, but Lanzini vs Villa is miles better than Cantwell vs City so I decided to avoid the -4.
        However, Matip could be a nice cheap way into the Pool defense..

    5. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I wouldn't remove Lanzini so A

    6. Energetics
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      B

    7. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      B

      Have similar issue with AWB and Matip. Not convinced he’s worth it. TAA is though for sure with Cantwell as makeweight. Next week looks good. I may wait until 7 for my move.

  2. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Thoughts on what to do here if one or both or Emerson and Trossard are out?

    Pope
    TAA Digne Emerson* Montoya
    Salah Sterling Mount Trossard*
    Aguero (c) Pukki

    Woodman Dendocker Greenwood Rico 1FT 0.3 ITB

    1. Rocky.007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      If both are injured, I would do Emerson to Ota and play Donkey for this week ahead of Trossard and reassess.

      1. Energetics
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        This

    2. rmt this, rmt that so i sai…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      keep tross, emerson -> ota, think kun disbalances your team in a long run

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Will keep Kun and captain for two more GWs and then will probably downgrade and redistribute funds

    3. in sane in de bruyne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Matip + Mount in for a hit?

      1. in sane in de bruyne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Ota*

      2. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Got Mount

  3. pelle9
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Free transfer:

    AWB >> Otamendi ?

    I don't have a Man City defender.

    Current defence: TAA - Digne - AWB - Lundstram - Kelly

    Thanks guys.

    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Yeah do it

    2. Rocky.007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I would do it if there no other fires to put out.

    3. rmt this, rmt that so i sai…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      if planning to play 442 then yeah sure

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        If its 343 or 352 I would still do it. Lundy is not regular starter material and Kelly not nailed

  4. Colby
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    As a worried non-Martial owner I'm shocked that there's so much talk about selling him? A midfielder who guaranteed to play up front and cheaper than Rashford - he's a candidate for my wildcard side.

    1. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Agreed

    2. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I still think he's a good pick if he can stay fit.

    3. acesingh
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Bang on... worried about not picking him on my WC

    4. The_Fish
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      If he didn't get injured there'd be a lot less talk about it.

      I'm tempted to sell next week to KDB.

  5. Ask Yourself
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Pep going to be fuming when Aguero is kept on for 90 mins in kompany’s testimonial despite winning comfortably

    1. Hakim Ziyech
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Pep is the one in charge of Team Kompany 😉

      1. Hakim Ziyech
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        and even if he plays 90 mins. A testimonial match can not be compared to a competitive match. It is just there for fun & laughter

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Yeah but he cant really be fuming at his own decision anyway lol

          1. Hakim Ziyech
            • 1 Year
            4 months, 11 days ago

            Hahaha... Exactly!

    2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Well, Pep is the manager, he can take him off anytime he wants

    3. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Decent haul, this.

  6. simong1
    • 1 Year
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Good to go for this GW? Have 1FT (0ITB) but thinking of saving it til next wk to replace Jota & AWB together.

    Pope
    VVD - Digne - Zinchenko - Lundstram
    Sterling (c) - KDB - Salah - Martial
    Pukki - Jota

    Bench: Button - AWB - Dendocker - Greenwood

    1. JollyGoodYellows
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Looks good and love that midfield!

  7. Zaruto
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Need some pro advises in here:
    Out: Emerson + Cantwell
    In: Lundstrom + Iwobi
    (-4 points)

    Yes or no?
    Cheers

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      No

    2. JollyGoodYellows
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      No I'd keep both. Emerson could be a good differential.

    3. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Those moves aren't worth a -4. Play Lundstram if Emerson is out and re-assess next week.

      1. Better off with a pin and a…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Sorry I mis-read that, but still don't think it's worth a -4; who comes in for you if Emerson is injured?

        1. Zaruto
          • 2 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Well, Kelly ...

    4. Rocky.007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      No

    5. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Nope

    6. Bobby e Tony (Kanchelskis)
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Another no

    7. Zaruto
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Thanks guys, It’s a no!!

  8. JollyGoodYellows
    • 1 Year
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Thoughts on this: VVD + Bilva (-4) > Maitland Niles + KDB??

    1. Rocky.007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Do you have TAA?
      There are Better options than Niles surely.

      1. JollyGoodYellows
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Yeah have TAA. Who else for 5.1 or less?

        1. Rocky.007
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Burnley defenders looks good for cleansheets,
          If you have Pope and don't want double up, Mings maybe, good fixtures, can switch him to Soyuncu after next 2.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      It's a no from me

    3. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Not at all

  9. Dacra
    • 5 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    How does this WC team look? Is 2x non playin bench too much?

    Pope (4.0)
    TAA - Digne - Otamendi (Lundstram, Rico)
    Salah - Sterling - KdB - James - Mount
    Pukki - Haller (Greenwood)

    0 cash left

    1. Bobby e Tony (Kanchelskis)
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      In the long run probbaly, but Greenwood is a semi-player rather than a true non-player

    2. acesingh
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      That’s my team except I have Robbo + Cantwell for James + Mount

    3. Kaiser123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Same team for me. I have Zinc instead of Ota. I really want Haller somehow, but.don’t how to get him.

      1. Kaiser123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Should of said I have Barnes instead

  10. Christina.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Auba.

    Cant wait.

    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Wait how many premiums do you have?

      1. Christina.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        😆

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          So you have Sterling, Auba, Kun and Mane?

          1. Christina.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 months, 11 days ago

            correct

            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              • 1 Year
              4 months, 11 days ago

              So no KDB I'm assuming? (I hope)

              1. Christina.
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                4 months, 11 days ago

                no. not yet.

                1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                  • 1 Year
                  4 months, 11 days ago

                  And no TAA as well correct?

                  1. Christina.
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    4 months, 11 days ago

                    I have him. 😉

                    Heaton
                    TAA Lundy Dunk
                    Sterling Mane Mcginn Cantwell
                    Auba Pukki Kun

                    Donkey Kelly Soy

                    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                      • 1 Year
                      4 months, 11 days ago

                      Aah. Solid team that. We play the game with very different philosophies, this is what I have currently

                      Pope
                      TAA Otamendi Coleman Lundy
                      Sterling Mane KDB Son
                      Haller Pukki

                      Cantwell Kelly Greenwood

                      1. Christina.
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        4 months, 11 days ago

                        Nice. I've been lucky so far and accept that I need to get KdB soon and prob lose Kun. In the process I need to try and get Digne/Ota I think.

                        Waiting to see how long I can push my luck.

  11. FOO FIGHTER
    4 months, 11 days ago

    So GW5 I expect KDB to hit 10.0m and continue to rocket after that. Points to price he will be the most valuable player to have from here on in.

    Watch this space!

    1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Points to price I think TAA will be highest by far.

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Good shout. I will have both 🙂

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Yeah both fantastic picks.

      2. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        If TAA gets 200 its 29 points per million and I think it's quite realistic that he gets 200.

        It KDB matches that, even for those that bought him for 9.5, he would have to get 280 points. Unrealistic

        1. Better off with a pin and a…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Pukki could beat that (using his original price, anyway) if he can keep it up.

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 1 Year
            4 months, 11 days ago

            I think he could as well, think he will be on pens too now that he scored 2 over the IB.

            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              • 1 Year
              4 months, 11 days ago

              But my money would still be on TAA. Pukki needs to keep up a higher level that jimmy last season and that's uncertain

              1. Better off with a pin and a…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                4 months, 11 days ago

                Agree. I think that's the more likely outcome.The other cheeky one is Lundstram who would only need 120 to be at 30 ppm!

                1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                  • 1 Year
                  4 months, 11 days ago

                  120 for him would be huge but good shout

        2. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Cantwell on course 🙂

        3. FOO FIGHTER
          4 months, 11 days ago

          I am looking at KDB's average of 9 points so far per game. Consistency is key and reckon he will be Mister consistency this season.

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 1 Year
            4 months, 11 days ago

            Hahah 9 points per game would make him the all time highest scorer in an FPL season. Dont take that average mate he will blank some weeks

            1. FOO FIGHTER
              4 months, 11 days ago

              I did not say he would get average of 9 points but will be the most consistent points scorer. That makes him very valuable.

              1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                • 1 Year
                4 months, 11 days ago

                Consistent, yes. Highest points for price (like you said), No.

    2. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      The £9.5-11m players a bit of difficult spot - they really need to score well above 200 points over season to provide value, as you won't captain them. I think Auba and Kane may fail to provide that value, whereas KDB might

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Yeah Son and Pepe have good potential as well

      2. pingissimus
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Perfectly sensible to captain Vardy and KdB to name just two.

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Yeah I did pretty well captaining Son last season a few times

      3. Cruyff's Eleven
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        I'm seriously considering captaining KDB this week

    3. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      On value I’d throw in Vardy

      A 200 point plus season is more than possible. Given he’s 8.9 currently he could well beat KdB for value if you bought him at 9.8

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        I dont think KDB is a contender here. 25 points per mil at best and that also 240 which is amazing

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Do not just look at the overall point figure. Incoming hauls like he had in is his latest INT which he is quite capale of considering his consistent form so far could set him apart...

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 1 Year
            4 months, 11 days ago

            Would need an extraordinary season for him to be highest points per million. He would need around 280-300 to be a contender

            even if he produces his best, he is the one scoring hattricks, it's mostly a assist haul plus the occasional goal. I dont see it happening

            1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
              • 1 Year
              4 months, 11 days ago

              Not the one scoring hattricks*

        2. pingissimus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          I’d agree. The mid range players will top the value charts overall unless something exceptional happens.

          In my head I make a distinction between 7.5 or so down and up. In the lower category it’s almost bound to be a combination of premium defenders and perhaps a Pukki figure.

          In the higher category I’m thinking KdB and Vardy could be the choices on value alone.30-40 points fewer than the super premiums but starting at 3 mill or so less.

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 1 Year
            4 months, 11 days ago

            Yeah but you cant possibly think that KDB can will the points for price race. Do you?

            1. pingissimus
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 1 Year
              4 months, 11 days ago

              At the premium (7.5/8.0 plus) level yes.

              I see it as perfectly plausible he’ll be within 20 points or so of Sterling at the season’s end. That would put him very close at the very least. If he stays fit 9.5 (got him at 9.6) was a gift.

              1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                • 1 Year
                4 months, 11 days ago

                At the premium level a fit KDB is hard to beat. I was asking for the whole game.

                Would be hard to Beat TAA, Cantwell, Pukki and Lundstram looking at original price

                1. pingissimus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 1 Year
                  4 months, 11 days ago

                  We agree pretty much then.

                  If any of the 5.5 City boys last the course they could be in with a shout on value I suppose.

            2. FOO FIGHTER
              4 months, 11 days ago

              KDB is not a player you will be captaining though, well not me.

              That is why I like his price and know his consistency will get 200+ when looking at his average and form so far. He is not a fly by night.

              Value...

  12. jimmyabs1987
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Do I..

    a) remove Son and Greenwood > Mount and Haller (giving me two playing options).
    b) Keep Son and Greenwood

    I have Firmino and Pukki as other 2 strikers and like idea of Haller, Pukki, Firmino up top BUT Son has great fixtures and have Martial and Trossard and when both fit my midfield will be a good strong 5.

    So team A:

    Sterling, KDB, Trossard, Martial, Son
    Pukki, Firmino (Greenwood)

    OR

    Team B:

    Sterling, KDB, Troasard, Mount, Martial
    Firmino, Haller, Pukki

    Thanks

    1. Bobby e Tony (Kanchelskis)
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Spurs looking a bit lackluster. A.

      1. Bobby e Tony (Kanchelskis)
        • 2 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        I mean option (a) not team A.

    2. Better off with a pin and a…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Feels close to me. I'd say it comes down to how much you trust Spurs to pick up form and whether one or both of Trossard and Martial are injured. Would it be for a hit?

      1. jimmyabs1987
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        yes for a -4

    3. Would Ed Woodward
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I'd keep Son, he's an amazing differential atm and they have good fixtures.

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      A. Put more money on the field.

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        So team A. Keep Son.

  13. Kopkloppers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Zero need to use a tfr?
    Pope Button
    TAA Digne Rose Soyoncu Lund
    Mane KDB Sterling Mcginn Cantwell
    Puki Firmino Greenwood

    Next Week: Somehow to move out Rose and get in Son.

    1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Looking good

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        TNKS

    2. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I have similar team, and fear no Salah or Agüero for armband this GW. Consider upgrading Mané to Salah.

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        I have made my bed and willing to run without them.

    3. pingissimus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Nice set up - hold.

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Agreed

    4. maratus
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Great team, save defo.
      WC already used?

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Yep GW3 have .6 itb for little changes. Moving a pool asset out in the next couple of weeks. I like Mcginn to Iwobi too

    5. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Who's your captain , btw?

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Mane and to be honest I would probably want him over everyone this week.
        Hoping Salah supplies a few assists. (Smile)

  14. Harvey Spector
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    If pep says Jesus is injured then Aguero (c), if not then Salah (c)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      OK - am going Aguero regardless of Jesus injury status. Norwich are garbage at the back.

    2. avfc82
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Jesus has been pictured in first team training this week, so it looks like he should be okay.

  15. Colby
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    I'm going Pepe over Auba - anyone disagree?

    1. maratus
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Auba over Pepe for sure.

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Get back to me in two weeks. One is a midfielder who costs 1.5m less. They're playing right now in the same position (wide forward). As long as Pepe isn't a completely rubbish player (and his stats in France suggest he is not), he will be better value than Aubameyang.

        1. Colby
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          That's how I see it too Camzy

    2. Christina.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I own Auba.

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Your favorite?

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      So am I but I planned for it.

      1. Colby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Personally the worry over whether Laca plays - meaning Auba could be on the flank makes this an easier decision to make and I'm saving 1.5m. 12 shots on target in the opening 4 game weeks - it's Pepe for me and more £ to invest elsewhere.

    4. 40 MIL & A QUID
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I'd go Auba, Gooner btw.

    5. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Depends how many big other hitters you have. If only two, then Auba, if already got three, then Pepé

    6. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Aubae the clear choice for me there

      1. Colby
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Yeah I've 3 big hitters (Mane and Sterling) so Pepe fits the budget nicely. But are you Auba owners not worried that his prospects are dented somewhat if Laca starts up front?

        1. 40 MIL & A QUID
          • 7 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Golden boot says he did alright from mostly playing out-wide last season.

          1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
            • 1 Year
            4 months, 11 days ago

            And he wasnt even completely nailed last season. He came off the bench a fair few times. More nailed and plays for a better attack with guys like pepe and ceballos

          2. Kopkloppers
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 months, 11 days ago

            This

  16. Longlatini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Mane or Sterling (c)?

    Mane at home and fully rested, great home record. Newcastle likely to park the bus though and showed vs Spurs they can keep it tight. But it’s Liverpool at home...

    Sterling played a lot of minutes for England, ran his little socks off last night, could be rotated before UCL kicks off mid week. However if he does start he could easily go crazy against a Norwich team that could concede 5 or 6 quite easily.

    Tl:dr Mane or Sterling (c) I haven’t got the foggiest!

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Mané

    2. 40 MIL & A QUID
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      One of the hardest captaincy conundrums in a while. I'm on Raz but not convinced.

      1. Longlatini
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Early captaincy as well, I know it’s not logical but always feels kind of wrong

    3. Original Pirate Material
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Sterling because of the flames that he currently represents.

      1. Longlatini
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Definitely on fire but hopefully not burned out

        1. Original Pirate Material
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          You do realise we are only 4 domestic games into this season.

          1. Longlatini
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 2 Years
            4 months, 11 days ago

            Indeed

        2. Pompel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Flash in the pan, yeah

    4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Mane if you want to pick a certain starter

    5. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Same conundrum for me. Hardest till now this season and I am sure I will pick the wrong one in the end lol

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Sometimes we all think too much. I was banging heads with someone on the site who insisted Sterling due his great performance GW1, easy Norwich. I see easy Home game vs Newcastle, Nailed no rotation mane and a possibility Sterling gets rested.
        Nobody can be sure but Sterling rested and a cameo can kill you. Mane safe bet.

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Thanks man I on Mane as well now. Wish the deadline was tonight hahah

          But I think I will stick 🙂

          1. Kopkloppers
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 months, 11 days ago

            Good call IMO. Leave the site to avoid being brainwashed. (Smile)

    6. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Mane for me. Too risky for Sterling to get a rest.

  17. Original Pirate Material
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    4 months, 11 days ago

    KDB getting hard to ignore isnt he?

    Laporte, Mount, Pukki out
    Lowton, KDB, Ayew in

    1. maratus
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Pukki out seems awful transfer, you must have some other route to go for KDB.

      1. Original Pirate Material
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        I know, its either him or Haller out. Its the only way if I want to keep TAA, Salah, Sterling & Aguero.

        1. KujaliaFC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          I think Haller is a better pick than Pukki. He's a better striker playing for a better team.

          1. Original Pirate Material
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            4 months, 11 days ago

            Agreed mate.

    2. Longlatini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Needs another way I think

    3. Murder On Zidanesfloor
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      If you want SSA, Kdb is not feasible

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        You have selected the big hitter route, now.probably best to stick to it till you WC

        1. Original Pirate Material
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Used last week, effectively mind. Gulp!

    4. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      You need 3.2 mil. Laporte can give you 2 mil. find 1.5 and leave Pukki IMO

      1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        I can picture this team. Dont think there would be any other route to get that 1.5 other than Haller and Pukki.
        TAA, Salah, Sterling, Kun and Cantwell, lundstram, maybe mginn/mount and other budget options

        1. Original Pirate Material
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Current team:

          Pope
          Laporte TAA Lund Kelly Rico
          Salah Sterling Mount Cant Donks
          Aguero Haller Pukki

      2. Original Pirate Material
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Haller out is the other option but I think he’ll do better than Pukki.

  18. learnedlizard
    • 4 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    looks like im the only one with no kdb in my team lol

    1. learnedlizard
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      one in this site*

    2. Christina.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      as long as you have kun

      1. learnedlizard
        • 4 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        i do!

        1. Gregor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 10 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          I’d rather have Kün this week, I don’t have bloody either!

          1. Olivier Bernards watch
            • 5 Years
            4 months, 11 days ago

            me neither

    3. 40 MIL & A QUID
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Best midfielder in the world at a very modest price. Get on board.

      1. learnedlizard
        • 4 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        gonna soon jump on the train i hope he doesnt explode this gw

      2. Krionos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        He's the best player in the Premier league IMO.

        1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
          • 1 Year
          4 months, 11 days ago

          EA sports agrees

  19. Lingard’s Shin Guards
    • 1 Year
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Gtg here?

    Pope
    TAA Pieters Montoya Lundstrum
    Sterling Mane KDB Mount
    Aguero (c) Pukki

    Button Cantwell Soyuncu Wickham (0ft 0m itb)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      very nice - good luck

    2. learnedlizard
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      im on (k)un as well. goodluck

    3. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Pieters Soyuncu Montoya Lund can be a good call. I would maybe upgrade 1 of them. probably Pieters as you have Pope.

  20. MrCloppity
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Is it too much of a risk going without Sterling and Salah?
    Pope
    TAA Digne Zinchenko
    Maddison KDB Mane Mcginn
    Haller Agüero Barnes
    Bench: Button, Cantwell, Rico, Lundstram

    1. HarryB29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Going without one is risky. Going without both is insanity

    2. in sane in de bruyne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Yes

    3. learnedlizard
      • 4 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      yep

    4. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Yes. You need at least one for player ownership reasons if nothing else. If they do well your rank will be seriously hurt.

    5. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I am considering KDB Son and Pepe. Expensive so one has to go. Probably Mane, keeping Sterling and leaving Kun out. Could hurt me but only considering next week.

    6. COK3Y5MURF - Unbelievable J…
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      No.

  21. Viper
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Trossard & Jota - > Ceballos & Barnes, no hit.

    Look ok?

    1. 40 MIL & A QUID
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      lovely tbh.

    2. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I like it

  22. Cruyff's Eleven
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    4 months, 11 days ago

    KDB (C) ?

    1. 40 MIL & A QUID
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I'd take him over Mane, but still prefer Sterling.

  23. Athletic Nasherbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Took a -4 to get Trent + Haller. All set for the gameweek?

    Ryan
    TAA Digne Dunk Lundstram
    Sterling(C) Mane KdB Anderson
    Haller Pukki

    Button Mount Soyuncu Wickham

    1. 40 MIL & A QUID
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Looks alrght, try and get rid of anderson at some point.

      1. Athletic Nasherbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Looks good imo- points should come his way soon.

  24. KanyeWest
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Assuming no other coverage from WHU and Chelsea, would you rather

    (a) Haller
    (b) Abraham

    1. Bobby e Tony (Kanchelskis)
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      a

    2. AuFeld
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Haller. No CL and he doesn't have anyone to compete for his position.

    3. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      WHU and coverage should never be mentioned in same sentence 😉

      .. but Haller , surely

      1. Kopkloppers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        This site makes me think of Haller and overseas stats plus last 2 games are an argument. But I go back in history and my 1st season choices have been poor. I will probably have to eat my words.

  25. Kizza_10
    • 5 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Which option do you guys prefer ?

    A. Barnes & Haller & Dendoncker (sub)

    B. Barnes & Abraham & Cantwell (sub) (already own Mount)

    1. Bobby e Tony (Kanchelskis)
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      a

    2. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Option A. If I was on a wildcard I would go for Guendouzi over Dendoncker though.

    3. Offs!de
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      A

  26. CelticBhoy1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Im on a wildcard

    Adrian for the interim period or Pope?

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Pope.

    2. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Pope

    3. Bobby e Tony (Kanchelskis)
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Pope

    4. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Pope

    5. Krionos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Adrian. Just kidding, Pope.

    6. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Someone connected to the church.

      1. Pompel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 months, 11 days ago

        Jesus? He's soon to return

        1. Kopkloppers
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 months, 11 days ago

          Smile. Does he play in goal or just walks on awater?

          1. Pompel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 months, 11 days ago

            Jesus saves - hallelujah!

            1. Kopkloppers
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              4 months, 11 days ago

              Cute!

  27. MANGE TOUT RODNEY
    • 4 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Ah the comfort of a cheap Burnley defender.

  28. chelseabrad
    • 5 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Heaton Button
    TAA VVD Digne Zinchenko Rico
    Salah Sterling Siggy Martial Dendoncker
    Jota Pukki Greenwood

    2FT with 0 ITB.

    Looking at Siggy, Martial and Jota to D.Silva, Tielemans & Barnes for a -4, but does anyone have any better ideas?

    1. Kopkloppers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Iwobi?

  29. Offs!de
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    If Martial & Trossard are out --
    Then Martial + Trossard to KDB & Guendouzi for a HIT
    Y / N

  30. samaael
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 11 days ago

    Lucas moura has to go ?

    1. Offs!de
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Lo Celso is out, so observe

    2. Ask Yourself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      4 months, 11 days ago

      Competing with son now for second striker spot. Until poch changes his system then you can’t justify owning him

    3. FPLGraham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      4 months, 11 days ago

      I got rid for KDB... I reckon Poch will use Moura a lot in the CL. Emergence of an in-form Lamela means that along with Alli, Son, Eriksen + even Sissoko/Sessegnon in attacking positions it's just too much of a lottery.

      Depends who you're eyeing up as the replacement though.