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Is a Liverpool defensive double-up a viable option for Fantasy managers?

Liverpool’s defence has been fairly disappointing this season – at least as a collective.

Having recorded an impressive 21 clean sheets in 2018/19 (the most in a single Premier League campaign in 11 years), the Reds’ backline was always going to struggle to match last season’s output.

So far there have been just two shut-outs: only Norwich City and Tottenham Hotspur have registered fewer in the English top flight in 2019/20.

Even their second string have been getting in on the act, with Liverpool drawing 5-5 with Arsenal in a bonkers EFL Cup tie on Wednesday.

A favourable fixture swing awaits Jurgen Klopp’s side after the November international break, however, with the Reds playing Crystal Palace, Brighton and Hove Albion, Everton, Bournemouth and Watford before their blank Gameweek 18.

Fantasy managers might be tentatively considering a Liverpool defensive double-up during this period, then, but how do the Reds’ underlying statistics stack up? Have they been unlucky so far? And how are they comparing to last season’s numbers?

We attempt to address some of these questions in our Members’ article below.

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898 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Fudgy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    22 days, 6 hours ago

    Rashford is essential it seems right now

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      22 days, 6 hours ago

      Am trying to work out if 8.4m is a good price for a striker or overpriced for a left winger.

      1. Fudgy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        22 days, 6 hours ago

        It's a good price for a bagsman

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 6 hours ago

      I like Martial more tbh.

      1. Fudgy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        22 days, 6 hours ago

        Rashford edges it for me because of pens

        1. Tempestic
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 1 Year
          22 days, 5 hours ago

          He misses 90% of them tho

    3. Bring the Cavalry
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 6 hours ago

      Certainly not essential

  2. Skonto Rigga
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 2 Years
    22 days, 6 hours ago

    Superb timing

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      22 days, 6 hours ago

      slight lag more like 😉

    2. tucaoneo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      22 days, 6 hours ago

      Haha

  3. Bobby Digital
    • 2 Years
    22 days, 6 hours ago

    Double Pool D (TAA & VVD) since GW1.

    1. Kun Tozser
      • 4 Years
      22 days, 6 hours ago

      That was the last time it made any sense

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 2 Years
        22 days, 6 hours ago

        Can't be arsed to use transfers on defenders.. green sea of fixtures coming soon. I did one transfer to my defenders and that wad Digne to Aurier, just before his red and I still have him 😛

      2. Conik
        • 3 Years
        22 days, 5 hours ago

        Had the double all season. Top 500, all chips intact. It's not been the defensive disappointments that have killed people because, although not the best value options, they have still been amongst top scorers.

  4. Burger_and_Chips
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    22 days, 6 hours ago

    Rashford and Martial look strong options for the next few game weeks

    1. WWF
      • 2 Years
      22 days, 5 hours ago

      Yes

  5. D.Glynn
      22 days, 6 hours ago

      Any advice appreciated on my WC..

      Gaz Hend
      TAA Lund Rico Pieters Soy
      Salah Sterling KDB Martial Tiel
      Conolly Ayew Tammy

      Formation depends on fixtures.

      1. WWF
        • 2 Years
        22 days, 5 hours ago

        Good squad approach. I like it

      2. Tsparkes10
        • 1 Year
        22 days, 5 hours ago

        Mousset over ayew and its v nice

      3. D.Glynn
          22 days, 4 hours ago

          Thanks lads, hate WC week..

      4. Mooster
        • 3 Years
        22 days, 6 hours ago

        Four alternatives:
        A) wilson->kane
        B) wilson->rashford
        C) Webster->Mendy
        D) keep

        1. Kizza_10
          • 5 Years
          22 days, 6 hours ago

          B

        2. Bring the Cavalry
          • 2 Years
          22 days, 6 hours ago

          B or C

        3. WWF
          • 2 Years
          22 days, 5 hours ago

          A. Kane about to go nuts and score multiple hat tricks

          1. Mooster
            • 3 Years
            21 days, 23 hours ago

            In one game?

      5. Kizza_10
        • 5 Years
        22 days, 6 hours ago

        Which do you prefer ?

        A. Aubameyang & Yarmelenko out
        In: Vardy & Martial

        B. VVD & Wilson out
        In: Rico & Vardy (rotate Rico with Tomori, Lundstram & Soyencu)
        Also get to keep Aubameyang

        1. dshv
          • 2 Years
          22 days, 6 hours ago

          V

        2. dshv
          • 2 Years
          22 days, 6 hours ago

          Sorry b

        3. Top Lad Dakes.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          22 days, 6 hours ago

          B

        4. Mooster
          • 3 Years
          22 days, 6 hours ago

          B

        5. Tonyawesome69
            22 days, 6 hours ago

            B

        6. Bobby Digital
          • 2 Years
          22 days, 6 hours ago

          Let's talk differentials; I have three (Tielemans, Jorginho, Auier) and rest is template.

          1. Eriksen Maestro
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 1 Year
            22 days, 6 hours ago

            Jimenez

          2. Would Ed Woodward
              22 days, 6 hours ago

              Doherty and Martial.

            • DortmundisLove
              • 4 Years
              22 days, 6 hours ago

              Gazza, Yarmo and Cancelo. Not sure if bad different or good different.

            • J ⚒ Gimme your Mané…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              22 days, 6 hours ago

              Mendy, martial, haller.

            • Silecro
              • 2 Years
              22 days, 5 hours ago

              Ramsdale, Jimenez, Trossard

            • WWF
              • 2 Years
              22 days, 5 hours ago

              Ayew. Best striker sub 6m. Nailed. In a decent outfit.

          3. Pep Roulette
            • 2 Years
            22 days, 6 hours ago

            Martial or Rashford? And why?

            1. Bobby Digital
              • 2 Years
              22 days, 6 hours ago

              Martial... OOP.

            2. Top Lad Dakes.
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 2 Years
              22 days, 6 hours ago

              Martial if both fit. Cheaper, OOP, one more point per goal

            3. MeatPieSausageRoll
                22 days, 6 hours ago

                Martial. He’s not injured

                1. Tonyawesome69
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    this

                2. Burger_and_Chips
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 4 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  Both

                  1. DortmundisLove
                    • 4 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Yup

                3. J ⚒ Gimme your Mané…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 5 Years
                  22 days, 5 hours ago

                  Martial - Way better value !

                4. Hy liverpool
                  • 5 Years
                  22 days, 5 hours ago

                  Rashford

              • 007 [RoboKlopp]
                • 3 Years
                22 days, 6 hours ago

                Play one A or B?
                A. Soy vs cry
                B. Tomori vs wat

                Cheers.

                1. Top Lad Dakes.
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 2 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  B

                2. DortmundisLove
                  • 4 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  A

              • cravencottage
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                22 days, 6 hours ago

                Who would you get in: Dilva or Martial ( have KDB) ?

                1. Top Lad Dakes.
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 2 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  Martial tbh. More nailed when fit and OOP

                2. Bobby Digital
                  • 2 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  Martial

                3. SkekTek (AKA: AnzhiBabakin)
                  • 4 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  Silva this week but Martial longer term I suppose

                  1. Murder On Zidanesfloor
                    • 1 Year
                    22 days, 5 hours ago

                    Martial gets injured in the longer term.

                  2. Conik
                    • 3 Years
                    22 days, 5 hours ago

                    Dilva to Martial GW 12 makes sense.

                4. Citizenkane91
                  • 5 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  Depends on how many FTs you have and if there are any other fires in your team. Martial if you have 1 ft, better long term realistically. DSilva if you have 2fts and no other changes you desire to make.

                5. cravencottage
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  Thanks lads!

                6. DortmundisLove
                  • 4 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  Martial. Man Utd have a decent fixture run

              • Top Lad Dakes.
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 2 Years
                22 days, 6 hours ago

                Would you go for Connolly, roll FT, hope he plays this week and then look to get Martial in for Dendo next week?

                Or use both FT on Wilson Dendo to Greenwood Martial this week?

                Essentially, would only get Connolly if playing this week, otherwise can save 0.3m on a benchee with Greenwood

                1. cravencottage
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  Hmmm- Connolly is a better bet than Greenwood- he plays and you will want a deep bench as injuries, bench Ings etc come at you. I would get Martial soon.

                2. Old Gregg
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 2 Years
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  I’m looking to do Ota + Wilson > 5,5m def + Connolly this week. Then Martial Dendonck the following week. With the intention of playing Connolly this week only.

              • Tonyawesome69
                  22 days, 6 hours ago

                  gtg for GW11?

                  I don't think I'll take CHO out for a hit so benched for now.

                  0ft 0.6itb
                  ryan
                  TAA lundy dunk
                  mane sterling (c) KDB mount
                  abraham vardy connolly

                  pope CHO willem rico

                  1. Top Lad Dakes.
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Yep. May wanna hedge bets with Pope Dunk over Ryan Dunk?

                    1. Tonyawesome69
                        22 days, 6 hours ago

                        I'm sticking to the rule of always playing the GK that has a home fixture

                  2. Don Van White Jam
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    B.
                    Reassess Aubameyang after GW15?

                  3. Top Lad Dakes.
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Could this United hype be like after GW1’s 4-0 win?

                    Everyone and their nan wanted United players in. They were then god awful.

                    1. Jarvish Scott Talent
                      • 4 Years
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      Healthy combination of knee jerking and fixtures. Have seen worse bandwagons on here.

                      1. Top Lad Dakes.
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 2 Years
                        22 days, 6 hours ago

                        You hopping on either Martial or Rashford bandwagon?

                        I’m tempted by Martial but could just go safe with Jimenez and staying 343

                        1. Jarvish Scott Talent
                          • 4 Years
                          22 days, 6 hours ago

                          On my radar but not yet. Jimmy definitely another good option.

                        2. Eriksen Maestro
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 1 Year
                          22 days, 6 hours ago

                          I did -4 last week Mcginn to Martial

                  4. Eriksen Maestro
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 1 Year
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Hey lads, thoughts on below? 1FT 0.2 ITB

                    Pope / 4.0

                    TAA, Otamendi*, Cresswell / Lundy, Rico

                    Sterling, Mane, KDB, Mount, Martial

                    Abraham, Jimenez / Greenwood.

                    Save FT? Ty all in advance 🙂

                    1. Twisted Saltergater
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      great opportunity to save 🙂

                  5. SkekTek (AKA: AnzhiBabakin)
                    • 4 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Pope
                    TAA Soyuncu Lundstram
                    Mount Mane Kdb CHO
                    Vardy Abra Kun
                    Button Rico Dendo Boly*
                    0.8itb 1ft

                    Confused. Best advice?
                    A. Hold and hope. 2-3 moves next week.
                    B. Kun/CHO to Connolly/Sterling
                    C. Kun/CHO to Silva/Rashford
                    D. Boly to any def up to 5.8 (maybe Cancelo?)
                    E. CHO to Tielemans

                    1. FC Hakkebøf (Chopped…
                      • 2 Years
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      Hold or E. Leaning towards hold. Then Aguero + Cho -> Kane + Martial if possible.. Downgrade Boly to Tomori if need be for a hit

                      1. SkekTek (AKA: AnzhiBabakin)
                        • 4 Years
                        22 days, 6 hours ago

                        What's the thinking for Kane? Seems out of fashion here...

                    2. WWF
                      • 2 Years
                      22 days, 5 hours ago

                      E

                  6. FC Hakkebøf (Chopped…
                    • 2 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    2 FT. Which plan do you prefer?

                    A) GW11: Pukki -> Connolly
                    GW12: Aguero + Hayden -> Kane (C) + Martial

                    B) GW11: Pukki + Son -> Vardy + Martial
                    GW12: Aguero -> Kane (C)

                    Option B leaves me with enough ITB to upgrade my 5th defender Kelly to a 4.5+

                    1. Maneonthemap
                      • 1 Year
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      Bringing in Kane to captain before a home fixture against newly promoted team never works, trust me! Wouldn’t be looking to lose Son either, looks a much better option than Kane and always starts firing right now, especially considering their fun of fixtures. Would do the Pukki>Connolly move then try and get Vardy and Martial in while ditching Aguero next week.

                      1. Twisted Saltergater
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 10 Years
                        22 days, 6 hours ago

                        good advice this

                      2. FC Hakkebøf (Chopped…
                        • 2 Years
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        Ill take it into consideration.. But you never know with Kane to be honest. But at 10.8 he is becoming more and more tempting.. He should return to form... Ill do the Pukki -> Connolly for now and then reassess after gw11.

                        Thanks for input both of you

                  7. No Professionals
                    • 2 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Pukki and cantwell to connolly and Martial for a hit?

                    1. FC Hakkebøf (Chopped…
                      • 2 Years
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      Prolly not for a hit. But dunno really. If you got other transfers planned out then go for it

                    2. Twisted Saltergater
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      I'm going to hold Pukki until he scores a god damn goal for me!

                      1. Hy liverpool
                        • 5 Years
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        Me too

                    3. Maneonthemap
                      • 1 Year
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      Not for a hit, would reassess next week with two FTs

                  8. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Ryan
                    TAA Soyunchu Lundstramm
                    Salah Sterling mount Mcginn
                    Vardy Wilson Abraham

                    Subs Tomori BOLY Dendoncker
                    2FT 0.6m ITB

                    A Boly/Wilson to Lowton/Rashford
                    B Wilson/Dendoncker to Ayew/Martial
                    C Boly to Lowton

                    1. Maneonthemap
                      • 1 Year
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      B and C both look good, probably do B this week then C next

                  9. CroatianHammer
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    I've had TAA and Robertson since GW1 and while I'm none too thrilled with some of the last gasp consolations they've shipped, I'm reasonable happy to have them. Some price fluctuations that made no sense, but seems fine now.

                    Under the assumption that Villa are not entirely dead meat at home, I'm benching the Scot in favour of the Inglander for this one match. Trent-Darby-Alexander would be most likely to register attacking returns of the two. I had considered selling Robertson some weeks back, to move some cash into midfield (I had toyed with Mané in addition to the Sterling/KdB wonder twins), but will be keeping now that I've settled on my back line (Poolers, Rico, Lunds, AWB).

                    1. Maneonthemap
                      • 1 Year
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      Would still start Robertson ahead of all your other defenders this week, even if no clean sheet still has a high chance of attacking returns

                    2. Twisted Saltergater
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      I'd start TAA, Robertson and Lundstram

                      1. CroatianHammer
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 4 Years
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        Replying to both - would this not be a case of eggs in one basket? No clean sheet for one is no clean sheet for two...

                        I will, of course, make a note of this feedback and see if my 3-4-3 changes shape before Saturday morning.

                  10. Toby Lerone
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 4 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Salah out for Sterling(c) ?

                    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
                      • 5 Years
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      No

                    2. Maneonthemap
                      • 1 Year
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      You’ll want to switch back in a week so probably not! If you have another City option shouldn’t be too much damage if you captain them

                  11. Foozeball
                    • 2 Years
                    22 days, 6 hours ago

                    Who to start?
                    A) Soyuncu
                    B) CHO

                    1. Toby Lerone
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 4 Years
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      B

                      1. Foozeball
                        • 2 Years
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        Thanks!

                    2. Tonyawesome69
                        22 days, 6 hours ago

                        CHO

                      • Maneonthemap
                        • 1 Year
                        22 days, 6 hours ago

                        B’s worth the risk of a benching considering Soyuncu will be probably 2 pointer anyway

                    3. MikeLowrey
                      • 1 Year
                      22 days, 6 hours ago

                      A) Boly > Rico
                      B) Boly > Rico, Wilson > Rashford (-4)
                      C) Boly > Pereira, Wilson > Vardy, Salah > Martial (-8)

                      Still have my WC to get Mo back if I go down that path.

                      Current GW11 team

                      Pope
                      TAA VVD Soyuncu Lundstram
                      Salah Sterling KDB CHO
                      Wilson Abraham

                      (Button Boly* Cantwell Wickham)

                      1. Maneonthemap
                        • 1 Year
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        Tough one, wouldn’t ditch Salah. Maybe just do A this week and wildcard next/during IB to get Vardy and Martial in

                    4. Tonyawesome69
                        22 days, 6 hours ago

                        A

                      • No Professionals
                        • 2 Years
                        22 days, 6 hours ago

                        I know it's hard to say with out full team. But in theory, is vardy worth it for a hit? For me, I wouldn't captain him so he'd really need 2 attacking returns to justify it?

                        1. Maneonthemap
                          • 1 Year
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          In theory no, depends on everyone’s situation though. Now he’s already risen twice probably not worth it

                        2. Yank Revolution
                          • 8 Years
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          Yes, he is.

                      • g40steve
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 1 Year
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        Budget allows Ayew instead of Connolly, CP have sea of green coming?

                        1. WWF
                          • 2 Years
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          Will do well yes. Ayew!!!

                        2. Tsparkes10
                          • 1 Year
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          So do Sheff U... Mousseee

                      • james 101
                        • 7 Years
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        I’m surprised vardy isn’t doing better on the cap poll.

                        1. Slam
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 4 Years
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          You go ahead and captain him vs Palace away mate

                        2. Yank Revolution
                          • 8 Years
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          Man City's match w Soton too good to ignore.

                      • That Was Easy!
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 5 Years
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        Benching headache this week..

                        A) Montoya (NOR)
                        B) Soyuncu (cpl)
                        C) Lundstram (BUR)

                        Only playing 1, thoughts? Currently leaning C

                        1. Slam
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 4 Years
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          B and it’s not close

                          1. Slam
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 4 Years
                            22 days, 5 hours ago

                            Sorry i thought you meant 1 to bench

                            Yeah id play Lunds

                        2. Silecro
                          • 2 Years
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          Probably C due to att potential, but Norwich at home is as sure cs for Brighton as they will ever get

                      • Slam
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 4 Years
                        22 days, 5 hours ago

                        Is Son being overlooked?
                        Good fixtures, decent form

                        1. That Was Easy!
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 5 Years
                          22 days, 5 hours ago

                          Had him since GW3 WC, hoping the next 4 are fruitful!