Scout Notes

Mane hits the FPL summit as Salah’s form and fitness suffers

Aston Villa 1-2 Liverpool

  • Goals: Trezeguet (£5.2m) | Andrew Robertson (£6.9m), Sadio Mane (£11.9m)
  • Assists: John McGinn (£5.8m) | Mane, Trent Alexander-Arnold  (£7.2m)
  • Bonus: Mane x3, Alexander-Arnold x2, Robertson x1

Late goals from Andrew Robertson (£6.9m) and Sadio Mane (£11.9m) earned Liverpool a dramatic win against a tenacious Aston Villa.

The strikes also marked significant Fantasy milestones for both scorers.

Robertson’s powerful close-range header, from a Mane cross, levelled the match with three minutes of regular time remaining.

It was the Scot’s first league goal of the season which, with a bonus point added, gave him a nine-point haul that took him above fellow full-back Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.2m) in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) defender standings.

As for Mane, his winner in the fourth minute of time added on helped him to a 12-point tally, including maximum bonus, that confirmed him as FPL’s highest-scoring asset of 2019/20 so far.

The Senegal international is now 12 points clear of team-mate Mohamed Salah (£12.3m), a gulf that only looks likely to widen on present form.

The Egyptian has been playing with a niggling ankle injury in recent weeks, but his output had begun to slow even before that.

Salah has managed just one goal and an assist from his last five starts. Mane, by contrast, has two goals and three assists over the same timeframe and his superior attacking threat was painfully clear at Villa Park – as we discuss in the Members Analysis section below.

Manager Jurgen Klopp was certainly positive about his decision to replace Salah with Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.2m), and swap Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.4m) out for Divock Origi (£5.3m), after 65 minutes.

Klopp said:

Then we could change twice, fresh legs and shooting from distance – Ox helps massively with situations like that. We brought Sadio to the right side, Ox left in the half-space, opening the space for Robbo then going inside. That was really good.

Fantasy managers have been offloading the Egyptian for some time now: he’s lost nearly 900,000 owners since Gameweek 8 and is currently the second-most-sold player heading into Gameweek 12.

Mane, meanwhile, grows ever more popular. He’s third for Gameweek 12 transfers in and is now owned by 31.6% of FPL managers, compared to the 28.3% on Salah.

Alexander-Arnold’s corner produced the assist for Mane’s winner and the young right-back earned two bonus points after yet another eye-catching attacking performance.

If the battle between Mane and Salah seems to be only going in one direction, the relative merits of the two Liverpool full-backs is far less clear-cut.

What is becoming rather more evident is that the Reds’ lack of clean sheets – just two in 11 matches now – means the 42.8% of managers who have made Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) the most owned defender in FPL have saved themselves a bit of money at the expense of an ever-increasing amount of points.

Van Dijk has 38 points, with Robertson and Alexander-Arnold on 52 and 50 respectively.

Further up the pitch, Roberto Firmino (£9.5m) remains a popular choice, with 12% ownership.

But his recent output is even worse than Salah’s, with five straight blanks, although he was unfortunate not to end the drought against Villa when he steered a Mane cross into the net, only for VAR to adjudge him offside by what essentially amounted to a single armpit hair.

The Brazilian’s backers have been pretty patient through his barren spell, perhaps holding out for a change in fortunes as Liverpool’s fixtures ease following next week’s huge home match with Manchester City.

It will need to be a significant change, however, as there are a number of strikers providing a lot more bang for similar, and frequently fewer, bucks.

Mane and Adam Lallana (£5.8m) both missed excellent chances before Liverpool’s late show as the Reds fired in a total of 25 attempts to the home side’s five. A chunky 18 of those came in the penalty area as Villa sat deep to absorb pressure.

That tactic has served Dean Smith’s side well this season, but the idea that it is sustainable seems questionable. No team has allowed more shots than Villa’s 213, although six sides have conceded more than their 51 attempts on target.

Should their opponents become more clinical, their goals conceded total – already a fourth-worst 18 – could get considerably more ugly.

At least the 0.8% of managers enjoying the budget charms of full-back Frederic Guilbert (£4.4m) got lucky at the weekend when their man limped off with a knock after 68 minutes, thus securing the first clean sheet points any Villa player has managed since Gameweek 5.

They have been rather more effective at the other end of the pitch.

Trezeguet (£5.2m) opened the scoring against Liverpool, forcing the ball home from a John McGinn (£5.8m) free-kick for his first Premier League goal.

That made it a healthy 16 goals this season for Villa but the problem for Fantasy managers is the lack of a consistent scorer in their ranks.

Eight of their players have now been on the scoresheet, but top scorer Wesley’s (£6.0m) total of four has come from just three of his 11 starts to date and he fluffed his one and only chance on Saturday.

Their attacking threat was diminished by the absence of talismanic skipper Jack Grealish (£5.9m) with a calf problem, although an assist from their most popular player, the 10.9%-owned McGinn, at least ended his three-match run without a haul.

But their generosity at the back and such a wide spread of scorers further up the pitch makes pinpointing the right Villa investment a tricky call, which is a shame as their schedule, barring a Gameweek 14/15 double header away at Manchester United and Chelsea, is set fair all the way into the New Year.

If Smith provided no update on Guilbert’s injury post-match, he was decidedly emphatic about the imminent return of Grealish.

He will be fine for next week. He had a little run on the pitch pre-game. But I told him I wanted him to be 100% because you have to be against teams like this. He wasn’t, so he made the call and I certainly supported him on that.

Grealish, with two goals and an assist from his last three starts, could be the Villa man to bring in for what promises to be a thunderous derby with Wolves.

And with just 4.4% ownership, he has the added benefit of being a differential to boot.

Aston Villa XI (4-2-3-1): Heaton; Guilbert (El Mohamady 69′), Engels, Mings, Targett; Luiz (Hourihane 73′), Nakamba; El Ghazi, McGinn, Trezeguet; Wesley (Kodjia 87′).

Liverpool XI (4-3-3): Alisson; Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson; Henderson, Lallana (Keita 84mins), Wijnaldum (Origi 65′); Salah (Oxlade-Chamberlain 65′), Firmino, Mane.

Members Analysis

Lessons learned from Gameweek 11

703 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Buck The Trent
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Salah 🙁

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      The end of

    2. kime67
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      mane looks much better

  2. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Morning. I have 2fts and 0.1m itb.

    Thinking of kun and CHO to vardy and mount but open to suggestions and maybe a hit....

    Boly needs to go clearly.

    Pope
    Taa lunds boly soy rico
    Mane kdb maddison cho nakamba
    Kun wilson abraham

    Would be good to get some views...thanks

  3. kime67
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Salah is so disapointting..

  4. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Friendship ended with MOHAMED

    Now SADIO is my best friend

  5. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Salah is playing with a ankle which ain't fully healed. Pain barrier is the pits.

    Hoping he is rested in the CL and goes to town vs City defence.

  6. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    However unlikely I would absolutely love Palace Leicester to end 1-2 from a Maddison brace 🙂

    And then a boring 1-1 in the Spurs game.

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Hoping for another hattie from both Perez and Vardy. I do not have LEI defence so do not mind if the concede.

  7. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Missed his drop last night. Annoying.

    1. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Same. Did not seem to drop

  8. VAR United
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    This looks like a no brainier right

    Sterling, Kelly, Lowton > Teielmans, TAA, Robbo

    1. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      How many hits? I wouldnt do it this week even for free with Liverpool defense very unlikely to keep CS

      1. VAR United
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Got 2fts so could do Tielemans this week and the rest next all for free

        1. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Yea Id do that. Or get in just TAA and Tiels. Wouldnt do the hit yet.

          1. VAR United
            • 7 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Cheers bro

  9. Tsparkes10
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Almost did Mane to Sterl for a hit loool

  10. Ozzy smith
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Captain one.

    A. Vardy (ARS)
    B. Jimenez (AVL)
    C. Tammy (CRY)

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      A

    2. clempro
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      A

    3. jia you
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Vardy(C) Jimenez(vc) for me

    4. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Jamie forking Vardy

    5. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Suprised of Vardy's popularity. Was expecting for Tammy

      1. jia you
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Vardy will get Emery the sack

  11. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone here selling Sterling this week?

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Probably

    2. jia you
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Nah, have Mane already so no standout replacement?

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        I've got Mane too but selling sterling would make it easier to get Vardy and double liv defence

        1. jia you
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          have Vardy also and think there is great value in defence atm so TAA feels enough!

    3. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Yep.

      Sick of him, and I don’t think their upcoming fixtures are going to help improve him.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        That's why I'm considering it. The fixtures arent great

    4. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Nah but Im selling KDB for Mane very soon

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        How much do you have kdb at?

  12. jia you
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    No Salah, Mo problem

  13. Botman and Robben
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Does Salah have an injury that few know about?

    1. Planet_Marss
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      yeah,, its a secret

    2. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Its not a secret. Hasnt trained with the team because he is carrying an injury

  14. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Guys, from GW13 onward Mendy Firmino or Robbo Jimenez? Other Liverpool players are TAA and Mane ...

    1. Planet_Marss
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      a. obviously mendy is nailed now -.-

  15. Ozzy smith
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Genuinely tempted to do Sterling > Mane for a hit. Hmmmm

    1. Planet_Marss
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      maybe priced out same time next week

  16. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Mane Trent and Robbo the way to go?

    1. El Matador
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Seems that way. Both TAA and Robbo will get their fair share of returns and you would bank on them to outscore similar priced mids.

    2. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Certainly edging that way myself, not that I’m overly inspired by the triple up

    3. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Only 2 clean sheets for liverpool and both defenders doing well. Should get more clean sheets with Alisson back and their nice fixture run

  17. Lignja
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    90% of my rivals in mini leagues have Sterling and Mane and im chasing 50 pts im thinking of Sterling to Salah with one ft and roll other. Good idea or jus go like others and sell Aguero, Dendoker for Mane and Greenwood

    Pope
    Taa, Soyuncu, Rico, Lundstram
    Sterling, Kdb, Mount
    Afuero, Abraham, Vardy

    Cho, Dendoker, Kelly

    1. Planet_Marss
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      sterling>salah

    2. Planet_Marss
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      thats sterling to salah yeah

  18. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    2FT. 6.2m ITB when I do Aguero to Vardy - where would you spend it?

    Thinking Jimenez in for Connolly and bank the rest for now? Martial also an option but monitoring Son too...

    Pope McGovern
    TAA Soyuncu Lundstram Rico Kelly
    Mané KDB Mount Maddison Dendoncker
    Aguero* Abraham Connolly

    🙂

    1. SUPER MOKH
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Same situation and i'm keeping Connoly, instead I will upgrade my 5th mids, in my case Cantwell, looking at Son, Pepe, Martial, but mainly Son.

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah as below I’m considering Son too. Martial in was my plan this week having rolled FT and 3.5 ITB but now thinking Jimenez a better option...

  19. Surfeit of Lampteys
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    @Brooksy86 must be all over these reports of Kane not being in the spurs squad today.

    1. Planet_Marss
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      actually?

      1. Surfeit of Lampteys
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Actual reports yeah. Nothing confirmed yet obvs

        1. Planet_Marss
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          love it

      2. Fozzyb34r
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Not playing due to illness apparently

        1. Planet_Marss
          • 4 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          oh f.. i forgot i put a bet on spurs to win -.-

          1. Surfeit of Lampteys
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            Son's got your back, dw

            1. Planet_Marss
              • 4 Years
              4 years, 5 months ago

              everton have my back.. should lay over nicely for spurs today as usual

  20. Fozzyb34r
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Can I just get a quick A or B please:

    A) Otamendi, Dilva and Wilson to Rico, Son and Jiminez (-4)

    B) Dilva and Wilson to Martial and Jiminez (Sort out Ota next week)

    1. Planet_Marss
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      ota needs to go asap.. especially cos liverpool next.. take the hit

  21. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    No idea when to WC. If i WC in gw13 (to get mane/robbo), then i can take a punt this gw. If i opt not to WC, then i might save FT and do a mini WC in gw13 to get mane/robbo. Thoughts?

    Pope -- Heaton
    Taa Lundy Tomori -- Lascelles Rico
    Sterling Kdb Dilva Mount -- Cantwell
    Tammy Rashford Vardy

    A: If i were to WC in gw13, i would probably do Dilva > Martial / Maddison or Sterling > Mane

    B: If i were to WC in gw18, I might save FT and next gw tempted to convert Sterling + Dilva into Mane + Robbo

  22. jia you
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Welcome to my team Lundy boy, good riddance Pieters! Now do I start him at Spurs of go with my reliable Rico next weekend?

    Pope
    Taa / Pva / *Lundy
    Mane / Sterling / Dilva / Mount / Richarlison
    Vardy(C) / Jimenez(vc)
    (Henderson, *Rico, Janmaat, Connolly)

  23. Top Lad Dakes.
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Should Son look good today, I can do the following spread over 2 weeks for only a -4...

    Aguero Dendoncker Maddison Soyuncu —> Vardy Son Grealish Robbo

    Or alternatively looking at Jimenez in for Connolly, Martial in for Dendo and have loads more ITB... team above

  24. Planet_Marss
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    has anyone seen propundit andy's team.. feel sorry for him

    1. jia you
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      why?

      1. Planet_Marss
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        worst luck.. doesnt have lundstram too

        1. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          Thats not unlucky, its just bad.

          1. Planet_Marss
            • 4 Years
            4 years, 5 months ago

            there's an unfortunate back story

  25. andres
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    All advice is appreciated!

    Thinking of selling one of KDB / Sterling for Pulisic / LEI mid and upgrade Connolly to Jimenez.
    Would give also the funds to get Robbo the following GW.

    Pope
    TAA Soy Lund
    Mane KDB Mount Sterling
    Abraham Vardy Connolly

    Kelly, Pieters, Cantwell 1.7 ITB

    1. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Sounds good tbh. We have similar teams then and similar plans

      1. andres
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        the tricky part starts when you have to decide

        - who to sell: kdb or sterling
        - who to buy: tielemans or pulisic

    2. Mr_Barbs
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I'm thinking of downgrading KDB to a similar choice. For me, its to fund Pukki to Vardy. I like either Pulisic or Tielemans. Would Pulisic be overkill with Mount and Abraham?

  26. Dannywaz
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Sterling to son looks good

    1. andres
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      also considering this move. The have sheffieled united next who have been very solid at the back.

      will reassess based on what today's game brings as well.

  27. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Template forming...

    4.5 gk
    TAA - Robbo - Lund - Rico - 4.5 def
    Mane - Sterling/KDB - Mount - 6ish mid - Mid price mid/fodder
    Vardy - Tammy - Mid price striker/Connolly

    Seems like everyone has this or will from gw13

    1. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Basically just 3-4 spots to make a difference.

      1. Top Lad Dakes.
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        But, that’s on here. Lots more variance outside this small bubble of FFS posters

    2. Top Lad Dakes.
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Pretty much

    3. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Possibly 3 upfront

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      I doubt people will actually be decisive on getting Pool defense. Most will be juggling to get the flavor of the week mids and forwards.

  28. Over Midwicket
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    If the rumours are true, Son false 9 boys. Let's GO.

  29. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Think Pope to Henderson on the cards for me.

    Double up with Lund.

    1. jia you
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Hendo wont play in two GWs time!

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Jeez, forgot about that.

        1. jia you
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          will play Pope for the next two myself then I'm started Hendo for the foreseeable 🙂

    2. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Do it after gw13

  30. Mr_Barbs
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 5 months ago

    Why are we ditching sterling over KDB? Is it for an easy swap to Mane?

    I have Salah and no Vardy or Mane. With little TV i'm tempted to downgrade KDB. Any thoughts?

    A) Pukki, Salah & KDB > Vardy, Mane & 7.9 mid (-4)
    B) Pukki, Aurier & KDB > Vardy, Rico & 8 mid (-4)

    Pope, Button
    TAA, Lundstram, Soy, Cancelo, Aurier
    Salah, Sterling, KDB, Mount, Cantwell
    Abraham, Pukki, Greenwood

    1. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Im ditching KDB instead of Sterling.

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      "With little TV"

      That's the one. I have had him all season. That's 0.6m to give up on one of the most creative midfielders in the game.

      1. smix
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        I am ditching KDB too instead of Sterling. KDB is playing deeper now and City anyways have a bit of a tough run now. Sterling a bigger goal threat

        1. Mr_Barbs
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          I've watched the last few games and it appears he's playing deeper (although still whipping those crosses in). Maybe with Rodri out and availability of CBs is affecting this.

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Who are 'we'?

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        😀 classic

    4. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      KDB is 2M cheaper, has 9 more points than sterling in less minutes, has 7 returns in 9 starts in comparison to sterlings 6 returns in 10 starts.

      KDB is a season keeper for me and I got him at around 9.5M. At Sterlings price I need to feel comfortable in captaining him every week, but I want to captain Mane for the weeks to come.

      1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Romeo done.

      2. Mr_Barbs
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 5 months ago

        Its a good point but I feel Sterling is the much bigger goal threat and KDB looks like he's playing deeper lately. I can still shift Salah to Mane.

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 5 months ago

          I think pep will realise that playing KDB deeper has not been working.

    5. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 5 months ago

      Won't bother with City players for few weeks or longer ... hate the roulette. Only KDB in the team since WC and will not spend FT for it ...