Pro Pundits

How formation changes got the best out of Salah and De Bruyne in Gameweek 17

One of the world’s best FPL managers, Tom Freeman, takes a closer look at advanced central roles for Kevin De Bruyne and Mohamed Salah in his latest Pro Pundits piece.


There are many ways to play Fantasy Premier League.

Some managers will be more aggressive in their approach, whilst others play a more patient game.

On Saturday, as Liverpool’s line-up leaked on social media ten minutes before the Gameweek 17 deadline, I saw an opportunity to make a gain.

The midfield was likely to be a two-man unit, with Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) starting alongside Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.4m), in an expected 4-2-3-1. 

Mohamed Salah’s (£12.2m) best goalscoring form has come when leading the line in a 4-2-3-1, with Roberto Firmino (£9.3m) positioned in the pocket just behind, and this trend continued against Watford, with the Egyptian not only scoring twice but also causing the Hornets defence problems all afternoon.

No player attempted more shots in the box than Salah’s seven this week.

The 2-0 win over Watford means Liverpool have scored two or more goals in 24 of their last 26 league outings. The 1-1 draw at Old Trafford and the 1-0 win at Sheffield United are the only games in which they failed to do that.

A Salah and Sadio Mané (12.2) attacking double-up, from Gameweek 19, is something I’m thinking about.

On Sunday, it was Pep Guardiola’s turn to shake things up. His favoured 4-3-3 surprisingly made way for a 4-2-3-1 (sounds familiar right?!), with two holding midfielders and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.3m) as a no. 10.

Unshackled, De Bruyne was on another level, and the most advanced Manchester City player:

De Bruyne’s 19-point haul, combined with Salah’s brace and a Sheffield United defensive double-up, contributed towards my Gameweek 17 score of 80 points, which has seen my overall rank rise to 50,107.

As I plan to activate my Wildcard soon, my next moves are essentially one or two-week punts, with Jack Grealish (£6.2m) and Adama Traoré (£5.2m) both under consideration.

Whilst there is a bit of worry amongst Aston Villa fans right now after several below-par team performances, Grealish still interests me, and I do think if Villa are going to score, he will be involved.

A slightly cheaper option is Traoré, who’s been playing on the right of Wolverhampton Wanderers’ front three in recent weeks. He’s a player who looks almost impossible to stop when he gets going and is also a bit of a differential, owned by only 5.4% of squads. 

Despite this, it’s worth noting that while an away trip to Norwich City sounds like a fixture to target, only Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City have given up fewer big chances than the Canaries over the last five Gameweeks. That suggests it’ll be a tighter game than many think.

Going forward, I’m also keeping Michael Antonio (£6.9m) in mind. Against Southampton, Antonio and Sébastien Haller (£7.0m) made their debut as a strike duo, in a 4-4-2, and thrived. The 1-0 scoreline could have been even better for West Ham United, had Antonio’s goal in the second half stood. It was the second time he’s seen a goal disallowed for handball in three weeks, having also had one ruled out at Chelsea.

Now, the Hammers have a nice break to refine the system before their next match at Crystal Palace in Gameweek 19.

So, here is how I’m currently set up ahead of Gameweek 18, with one free transfer and £1.3m in the bank. 

Grealish, Traoré, Richarlison (£7.9m) and Raheem Sterling (£11.8m) are all on the Watchlist, with one or two likely to come in ahead of Saturday’s deadline.

Re captaincy, I’m currently on De Bruyne, but Grealish is another candidate having returned 25 points over his last three games at Villa Park.

I currently have the vice captaincy on Dele Alli (£8.7m) but that will likely be removed. 

Alli does have more goals against Chelsea than any other club but I do have concerns about Spurs and their ability to control games with their current midfield options. I’m just not sure they’ll get the balance right when selecting two of Eric Dier (£4.9m), Moussa Sissoko (£4.9m), Harry Winks (£5.2m) or Tanguy Ndombele (£5.8m), but captaincy decisions will likely go right to the wire.

Thanks for reading… until next time.


Tom Freeman – aka avfc82 – comes onto the team to make most of us feel wildly insecure about our overall rank history. A long-time Fantasy Football Scout user, he has finished inside the top 1,000 a staggering five times since 2009.

1,206 Comments Post a Comment
  1. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    What to do here

    Guaita
    Rico Lundstram Soyuncu Kelly
    Alli KDB Maddison
    Vardy Mousset Rashford

    McGovern* Dendoncker* Mane* TAA*

    1 FT & 0.5m ITB

    A) Mane ➡ Son(c)
    B) Mane Mousset ➡ Jimenez Son(c) -4
    C) Mane Mousset ➡ Grealish Kane(c) -4
    D) TAA Mousset ➡ Jimenez(c) Aurier -4

    Leaning towards C

    1. Slitherene
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C is slightly better than the others

    2. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      You could even do C with Jota to save a little.

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Or Maupay to save even more...

        1. The 12th Man
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Aye he’s a good choice too

    3. Balance
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

    4. Roy Rovers
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A for me.

  2. Tsparkes10
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    TAA, Connolly, Mount to Aurier, Jota, Grealish gives me:

    Hendo
    Aurier Rico Lund
    KDB Grealish Son Alli
    Vardy Mousset Jota
    (Martin, Perreira, Kelly, Mane)

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I like those moves.
      Sticking with Mousset? I dumped him last night.

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Until boxing day yh

  3. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    thoughts on chris mepham ? is he nailed ? thanks a lot

    1. Roy Rovers
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Played the full 90 in the last 3.

  4. Holmes
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Pereira, Soyuncu double up vs Man City is lit! 😛

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      gl ! I looked at mepham, he hasnt played a lot. is he nailed ? bournemouth have nice fixtures.

      1. Holmes
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Ake is expected to be out for around 6 weeks, thats something like 8 gameweeks.

        Obviously that means BOU' s defense will be weaker but Mepham is only 4.3 and shows lil bit of goal threat, good for playing occasionally.

        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks a lot !

  5. some witty pun
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    A) Salah to KDB(C) , would captain Rashford otherwise
    B) Tomori to Otamendi/WanBissaka, would play Soyuncu otherwise

  6. Killitzer
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Morning all

    Wasted my FT on Abraham last week and wondering what to do with Pulisic?

    Pope Button
    Soy Chilwell Lundstram Rico Kelly
    Mane Son Pulisic Cantwell KDB
    Abraham Vardy Ings
    £1.5 itb

    1. Save FT
    2. Pulisic—> Grealish
    3. Abraham —> Rashford

    Cheers!

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Pulisic > Richarlison,Grealish,Traore Moura
      Take your pick.

      Puli and Abraham still could come good though.

  7. Roy Rovers
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Am I GTG?

    Ryan
    Aurier Lundstram Rico
    Son Sterling Alli KDB Grealish
    Vardy Rashford (C)

    Button Kelly Greenwood Soy.

    1. Killitzer
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Definitely

    2. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Very nice

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers to both ^

  8. GAMBIT
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Morning DZ

    Anything worth a hit?

    Ryan
    Aurier, Lundy, Rico
    KdB, Son, Alli (C), Zaha
    Vardy, Tammy, Ings

    Button, Dendo, Soy, TAA

    3.9m ITB, already did Mane to Alli

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nope, all good

  9. FPL_adict
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Pope
    Kelly Lundstram Aurier
    Maddison Son Cantwell Kdb
    Vardy Rashford Abraham
    Bench: Soyuncu Mount Trent
    1FT, 2.2 Mil itb.

    What should I do? Bank transfer?

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I’d be tempted to go Mount > Richarlison or Grealish and have Cantwell as back up.
      Banking it is ok too.

    2. FPL_adict
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A) Mount to Richarlison
      B) Maddison to Richarlison (2 tough fixtures for Leicester and can play Mount against SOT GW19)
      C) Abraham/Mount to Traore/Kane for -4 hit. Bet on Chelsea regressing and Kane hauling over this busy Christmas period

  10. Taegugk Warrior
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Ryan
    Kelly/Rico/Lund
    Dendonk/KDB/Maddison/Son
    Vardy(vc)/Rashford(c)/Abraham

    McGovern- Aurier- Soy-Salah

    1FT.

    A. Maddison to Richarlison...?
    B. Dendonk to James
    C. Dendonk to McGin

  11. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Putative cost of my team in 20 using season start values

    GK 8.5
    Backs 21
    Mids 53
    Forwards 19.5

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Mine is
      GK 8.8
      Backs 26.3
      Mids 42.6
      Forwards 26

      Wow your midfield!

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Whoops miscalculated just 49 on season start values. The current value would be the higher figure.

        Just tickled at how I spent so long trying to fit all those premium defenders into my preseason line up

        1. The 12th Man
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yeh the season has certainly taken a twist.
          Wonder if we are all running back to premium defence in the new year. Will be interesting to see what unfolds for sure.

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Yep

            I have a contingency plan to get premium defence in. I don’t see Klopp tightening up at the back though and that defence seems incapable of cs

  12. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Has Ancelotti been appointed by Everton yet?

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Probably in the stands tomorrow.
      Unveiling on Monday. First game, Burnley Boxing Day

    2. Roy Rovers
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not yet....Ferguson in charge v Arsenal.

    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      What a coup for everton

      1. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Only talks.
        He’s getting 9m a year and 2.5m bonus if he keeps us up.

        1. The 12th Man
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          *money

  13. Azzastaan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Mount and James to Son and Cantwell/traore

    Rest of team is
    Pope
    Soy taa lund kely rico
    Mane kdb dendonk
    Tammy rashford vardy

  14. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    It’s now possible to get a team with Alli Son KdB Salah Mane & Vardy, a decent starting defence with Greenwood and Martinelli on the bench

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Given a decent starting defence arguably goes 4.0 4.0 and extra 4.0 on bench I think you can do better up top!

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Heaton
        Rico Soy Lund
        Mane Salah KdB Son Alli
        Vardy Greenwood/Martinelli
        McGovern Greenwood/Martinelli Kiko Balbuena

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Ah

          Putatively on something similar from 20 but with Maddison over Alli and Ings up top who can become Jim

          1. Hotdogs for Tea
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Alli Greenwood v Maddison Ings .... if I could only swing in Ings

            Heaton
            Rico Stephens Balbuena
            Mane Salah KdB Son Alli
            Vardy Maupay
            McGovern Greenwood Kiko Reid

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Rashford Ings Maupay are too good to be ignore for me tbh 😮
      Alli Son double up is easy to get though if i let Taa go.

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Maupay it is then

  15. Old Man
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Slightly off topic: I can heartily recommend Carlo Ancelotti's autobiography - a very enjoyable read.

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks , might have a look.

  16. Rash
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Morning all

    Messing around with a mock wild card going ultra cheap on defence and pumping money into midfield.

    Guaita 4.0
    Soy lundy rico dunk kelly
    Kdb maddison mane son salah
    Vardy ings/maupay Greenwood

    Think itll work?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'd downgrade one of Salah/mane and upgrade defence and ings/maupay.

      1. Rash
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        My current team is

        Hendo button
        Trent Soy lundy janmaat rico
        Kdb maddison mane grealish son
        Vardy tammy ings

        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          It's very good . How are you doing this season ? If it ain't broke don't fix it .

          1. Rash
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Currently 78k so hoping for a big push 2and half of the season, figured having my wildcard intact could try something a little different. Ie not many would have Salah and mane

    2. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      The gold standard power 5. It decimates the rest of the team, but it might work if your second striker ticks over nicely.

    3. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not for me, spread funds better squad.

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        This

  17. Tambling5
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Captain poll has Rashford, Son, KDB and Rich as top four. Sterling well down the list. Is this because people don't own him? He's looked quite sharp in midweek and against Arsenal. If you had all five would you pick Sterling? Or am I missing something?

    1. Wrong Captain Again
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      He was completely ambiguous against arsenal

      1. Tambling5
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks for replying. Do you mean anonymous?

        1. Wrong Captain Again
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I meant anonymous! Started drinking early...

          Apart from that tap-in, nothing really of note from sterling in that game

          1. Tambling5
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Good on you... who do you fancy for captain out of those five this week?

            1. Wrong Captain Again
              • 7 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              I think chelsea will capitulate just like they did against Man United away, fancy Spurs to get 3 or 4 goals. I'd go for Son.

  18. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Takumi Minamino will join LFC on the 1st of January. Will be interesting to see at what price he will be loaded. We got him for dirt cheap. Might just see some more rotation starting January in Klopp's attack.

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      It means the end for the likes of Lallana, I suspect.

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Probably Shaqiri too.

        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yes, he's another peripheral player.

    2. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Surely like all foreigners he'll need time to get up to Premiership speed.

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Bundesliga is pretty fast too though

        1. EL tridente
          • 6 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          You know he played in the Austrian Bundesliga, right? Not the real Bundesliga

          1. Ajax Hamsterdam
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            What a numpty haha of course d oh !!!

            1. Ajax Hamsterdam
              • 9 Years
              4 years, 4 months ago

              It's the red bull bit that got me confused 😉

              1. EL tridente
                • 6 Years
                4 years, 4 months ago

                Haha fair

                1. EL tridente
                  • 6 Years
                  4 years, 4 months ago

                  But he looked pretty up to speed in the Champions League games 🙂

    3. Tambling5
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Its quite a good tongue-twister! I think Mo may get more rotation certainly, especially when Champions League restarts.

  19. Azzastaan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Mount and James > Son and Cantwell ?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      For free ? Yes

    2. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Looks decent if Cantwell doesn’t have to start every week.

  20. Darthshearer
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Ryan
    El Mohamady | Kelly | Lundstram
    KDB | Dendoncker | Maddison | Mount
    Rashford | Vardy | Jimenez

    Button | Mings | Mane | Robertson

    1 FT 0.5ITB

    I have obv got Mane & Robertson on the bench due to their no game. Is it time to take mount out? Is it time to WC?

  21. Don Rogers FC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Debating Cantwell > Richarlison

    Cantwell currently benched so would mean benching Mousset

    Only for 2 game weeks then WC.

    1. Don Rogers FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Should have mention -4

    2. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      For free ?? Do it imo

    3. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Good move

    4. Tambling5
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Every month I consider something similar with Rich. Whenever I bite, with an easy fixture, he blanks. If I ignore him he scores. If you do it, you won't sleep easy, but at least he's bound to play unless gets too many yellows!

      1. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I’m not too worried about the yellows. Only misses one game if he’s booked and only a couple of games to survive.
        A good bench and Liverpool players back next week and Richarlison or Grealish can just be pined.

        1. Tambling5
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          I brought him in as captain for the home game against Norwich (lost 0-2), so it's made me bitter and twisted! Everton flying now, so even for -4 it's a move with good chances, but I can't bring myself to trust him anymore....

          1. The 12th Man
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Hurts when that happens.
            Same happened with me , only Callum Wilson.

  22. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Who is more likely to be rotated

    A Manquillo
    B Willems
    C Fernandez

    Thanks a lot

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I’ve sat looking at this question for 5 minutes.
      Honestly don’t have a clue.

    2. theodosios
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I guess Manquillo

  23. b91jh
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Start 2:

    A) Aurier
    B) Maddison
    C) Mousset

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Bc easy

    2. Don Rogers FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A & B

    3. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B and c yes

  24. Tsparkes10
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Can't decide on what striker and mid partnership for around 13.5 mil, thinking Grealish/James and Jota?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Grealish and maupay

  25. FPL_adict
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    A) Mount to Richarlison
    B) Maddison to Richarlison (2 tough fixtures for Leicester and can play Mount against SOT GW19)
    C) Abraham/Mount to Traore/Kane for -4 hit. Bet on Chelsea regressing and Kane hauling over this busy Christmas period

    1. FPL_adict
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Or D) Mount to Grealiash

  26. Amey
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Auba might be a tempting option under Arteta. Too expensive to punt though

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If aguero is back soon I'd rather have him

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Hmm
        Same here

  27. cuppatea78
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Any suggestions on changes to this team?

    Pope

    Lundstram Dunk Kelly

    KDB Alli Maddison Mount

    Abraham Ings Vardy

    Subs: Button, Soyuncu Mane, Tomori

    ITB £3M and 2 FT

  28. Taegugk Warrior
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Ryan
    Kelly/Rico/Lund
    Dendonk/KDB/Maddison/Son
    Vardy(vc)/Rashford(c)/Abraham

    McGovern- Aurier- Soy-Salah

    1FT.

    A. Maddison to Richarlison
    B. Dendonk to James... (is it too waste money to just 5th mid....?)
    C. Dendonk to McGin

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Sabe

  29. GoonerByron
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Struggling on who to bench this week, currently on this but RMT Tool thinks I should bench Maddison and Aurier... Thoughts?

    Ryan
    Aurier - Lundstram - Rico
    Son - KDB - Maddison - Zaha
    Jimenez - Auba - Vardy

    Adrian* - Cantwell - Targett - TAA*

    1. Tsparkes10
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Gtg

  30. the dom 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you bring in for 1 week punt, Mane > ???

    a. Son (have Alli)
    b. Stirling (have KDB)
    c. Martial (have Rashy)

    This would be for free.

    Cheers

    1. jakethebeast
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B