Pro Pundits

How formation changes got the best out of Salah and De Bruyne in Gameweek 17

One of the world’s best FPL managers, Tom Freeman, takes a closer look at advanced central roles for Kevin De Bruyne and Mohamed Salah in his latest Pro Pundits piece.


There are many ways to play Fantasy Premier League.

Some managers will be more aggressive in their approach, whilst others play a more patient game.

On Saturday, as Liverpool’s line-up leaked on social media ten minutes before the Gameweek 17 deadline, I saw an opportunity to make a gain.

The midfield was likely to be a two-man unit, with Jordan Henderson (£5.4m) starting alongside Georginio Wijnaldum (£5.4m), in an expected 4-2-3-1. 

Mohamed Salah’s (£12.2m) best goalscoring form has come when leading the line in a 4-2-3-1, with Roberto Firmino (£9.3m) positioned in the pocket just behind, and this trend continued against Watford, with the Egyptian not only scoring twice but also causing the Hornets defence problems all afternoon.

No player attempted more shots in the box than Salah’s seven this week.

The 2-0 win over Watford means Liverpool have scored two or more goals in 24 of their last 26 league outings. The 1-1 draw at Old Trafford and the 1-0 win at Sheffield United are the only games in which they failed to do that.

A Salah and Sadio Mané (12.2) attacking double-up, from Gameweek 19, is something I’m thinking about.

On Sunday, it was Pep Guardiola’s turn to shake things up. His favoured 4-3-3 surprisingly made way for a 4-2-3-1 (sounds familiar right?!), with two holding midfielders and Kevin De Bruyne (£10.3m) as a no. 10.

Unshackled, De Bruyne was on another level, and the most advanced Manchester City player:

De Bruyne’s 19-point haul, combined with Salah’s brace and a Sheffield United defensive double-up, contributed towards my Gameweek 17 score of 80 points, which has seen my overall rank rise to 50,107.

As I plan to activate my Wildcard soon, my next moves are essentially one or two-week punts, with Jack Grealish (£6.2m) and Adama Traoré (£5.2m) both under consideration.

Whilst there is a bit of worry amongst Aston Villa fans right now after several below-par team performances, Grealish still interests me, and I do think if Villa are going to score, he will be involved.

A slightly cheaper option is Traoré, who’s been playing on the right of Wolverhampton Wanderers’ front three in recent weeks. He’s a player who looks almost impossible to stop when he gets going and is also a bit of a differential, owned by only 5.4% of squads. 

Despite this, it’s worth noting that while an away trip to Norwich City sounds like a fixture to target, only Tottenham Hotspur and Manchester City have given up fewer big chances than the Canaries over the last five Gameweeks. That suggests it’ll be a tighter game than many think.

Going forward, I’m also keeping Michael Antonio (£6.9m) in mind. Against Southampton, Antonio and Sébastien Haller (£7.0m) made their debut as a strike duo, in a 4-4-2, and thrived. The 1-0 scoreline could have been even better for West Ham United, had Antonio’s goal in the second half stood. It was the second time he’s seen a goal disallowed for handball in three weeks, having also had one ruled out at Chelsea.

Now, the Hammers have a nice break to refine the system before their next match at Crystal Palace in Gameweek 19.

So, here is how I’m currently set up ahead of Gameweek 18, with one free transfer and £1.3m in the bank. 

Grealish, Traoré, Richarlison (£7.9m) and Raheem Sterling (£11.8m) are all on the Watchlist, with one or two likely to come in ahead of Saturday’s deadline.

Re captaincy, I’m currently on De Bruyne, but Grealish is another candidate having returned 25 points over his last three games at Villa Park.

I currently have the vice captaincy on Dele Alli (£8.7m) but that will likely be removed. 

Alli does have more goals against Chelsea than any other club but I do have concerns about Spurs and their ability to control games with their current midfield options. I’m just not sure they’ll get the balance right when selecting two of Eric Dier (£4.9m), Moussa Sissoko (£4.9m), Harry Winks (£5.2m) or Tanguy Ndombele (£5.8m), but captaincy decisions will likely go right to the wire.

Thanks for reading… until next time.


Tom Freeman – aka avfc82 – comes onto the team to make most of us feel wildly insecure about our overall rank history. A long-time Fantasy Football Scout user, he has finished inside the top 1,000 a staggering five times since 2009.

1,206 Comments Post a Comment
  1. R.C
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Will Charlie Taylor start ahead of Erik Pieters??

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I think so

      Burnley are yet to concede with him on the pitch

      But they have a positively evil fixture run fast approaching

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Reckon they'll keep a CS this GW?

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Impossible to know anything with Bournemouth involved, especially in a single gameweek!

        2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          They’re fresh off the back of conceding 20 (!) in Pieters’ last 6 appearances prior to NEW too

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      a clean sheet and a winning team last time out ? doubt Pieters will lose his place

  2. King Kohli
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Best Mane replacement?

    A. Moura
    B. Alli
    C. Richarlison
    D. Grealish

    Mane KDB Son Maddison Cantwell
    VAR

    Will get Salah for gw 20 or 21.

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C

      1. The Head-Ake
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        *B

  3. Cojones of Destiny
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Shelvey
    a. transfer to Grealish -4
    b. keep and pray for him to play

    1. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

  4. De Gea is GOAT
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Who to captain legends?

    A) Son
    B) Grealish
    C) Ings

    1. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Tough one but either B or A

    2. MagicMessi
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Toss a coin like I will probably do

    3. elchilangles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C

    4. Cto
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Son

    5. De Gea is GOAT
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks guys. Currently on A but i'm worried it might be a tight game. B is very tempting.

    6. arndff_
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Son ofc

  5. The Head-Ake
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Pope
    Kelly - Lundstram - Soyuncu
    Dendoncker- Maddison - KDB - Alli
    Vardy - Jiminez - Tammy

    Bench: Button - Mane - Reid - TAA

    I have 2 FTs and WC and 0.0 ITB. What moves should I look at?

    1. MagicMessi
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Dendo + Mane to someone of your choice .(Son and Grealesh/mcgin maybe). but I like doing many transfers which is not good for you !

      1. The Head-Ake
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        I have a WC. Reckon I'd use it next GW?

        What moves do you actually have in mind?

        1. MagicMessi
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Use the wildcard later to bring back Mane / Salah ..
          Thinking Mane to Son and Dendo to Richarlison/Grealesh/Zaha/..
          Or maybe just 1 transfer and bench Dendo

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      sell players that don’t have a game

  6. MagicMessi
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Captain lads ?

    A Pukki B-Rich. C-Jack. D-Kevin

    Thanks good luck

    1. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      D

    2. Cto
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      KDB

    3. De Gea is GOAT
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C for me out of this lot

      1. MagicMessi
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Iam on Pukki c Grealesh vice captain

      2. MagicMessi
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        But probably will stick it to KDB in the end ... Boring choice but safe maybe

    4. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      C/D

  7. Cto
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    What would you with this? Top of my mini league ... need to see her over the line for Xmas prize money

    2FT and 3m ITB

    Ryan
    Lund Kelly Rico
    Madd KDB Son Pulisic Trossard
    Vardy Jiminez

    Button Tammy Soy TAA

    I’m thinking take moving Pul (although I like the SOU game next week) or Maddison to Sterling, with TAA to Aurier. I don’t mind going no Liverpool until 25.
    Please don’t take out Trossard he’s a good option this week I think and will usually sit first on the bench

    Thanks!

    1. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Lose Pulisic + TAA to Alli/Sterling + Aurier

  8. Cak Juris
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Please choose one:
    A. Cantwell (WOL)
    B. Maddison (mci)
    C. Targett (SOT) ==> -4pts

    1. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      B, obviously

    3. fish&chips
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Got to be B. Maddison could cause problems with set pieces against city

    4. arndff_
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Mad

    5. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      A

  9. Amey
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    How is she looking 😉

    Pope
    Aurier Lundstram rico
    Kdb Son grealish donkey
    Vardy © Rashford ings

    Soyuncu

    0 FT 2.1m itb

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Not bad 😀

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Ha
        Enough for this dreadful Blank GW i guess 😉
        Thanks Holmes !

    2. Cojones of Destiny
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      gtg

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Captain choice spot on anyway 🙂

      This week it’s Donkey versus Maddison and Guilbert versus Aurier - we’re neck and neck on points with you ahead on fewer transfers!

      (Sold TAA this week with a view to early Mo Mane double so we’re going to start to diverge soon)

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Ha ha
        I might join you in Mo Mane double up in gw 24-28.

  10. R.C
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Who to get for next 2-4 GWs?

    1. Targett
    2. Charlie Taylor

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I prefer Mepham or Kiko

      Out of those, Targett

    2. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Will Taylor start ?

  11. Timon
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Thinking about bringing in Kane.
    could be a nice differential

    1. Binny
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yes could be good. Alli also still a good differential.

  12. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Richarlison vs Grealish is doing my head in. Any help folks?

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Same here and I'm also considering Traore, Moura, Fraser. Leaning toward sticking with Pulisic for another week, sigh...

      I guess Grealish is safe pick for now

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        None of the other options are that great tbh. Its between these 2 only. Absolutely 50-50 at the moment. Might just toss a coin. Cheers

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Could be a classic 2 points vs 2 points 🙂

      1. Binny
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Also both on 4YC so no help there either - i would choose Richarlison

      2. Cojones of Destiny
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        this

      3. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Might just get Richarlison to have some fpl interest in the early kick off.

    3. ppv
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Hoping Grealish is off penalties. Last weeks effort was awful

  13. Chandler Bing
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Which one? Have Vardy and none from Chelsea

    A. Maddison 4.5M striker (3-5-2)
    B. Tammy Dendonker (3-4-3)

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Tammy is tier 2 class, so B.

  14. fish&chips
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Keep switching captaincy between Son and Alli. Would normally opt for Sonny but Alli's history against Chelsea is making me reconsider. Do you think historical performances against specific teams is relevant?

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Alli blanked in the 'Alonso' 2-1 'home' defeat in Aug '17 so no, not in this case.

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      If its true then Doucoure, King, Barnes and Wood will also score this week

    3. Binny
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I recall Michael Owen saying there were certain teams he always felt he was going to score against and others not - so perhaps psychologically there is something to it

    4. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Totally irrelevant. Each game lives its own life. And during the period, there has been several managers and different players in the 2 teams.

      But Alli could score well, as well as Son, toss A coin

  15. The Head-Ake
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    My bias for Chelsea is blindsiding me from buying Son. Already have Alli. Looking at doing TAA + Dendonck to Lindelof + Grealish. Thoughts?

    1. The Head-Ake
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Pope
      Kelly - Lundstram - Lindelof
      Grealish- Maddison - KDB - Alli
      Vardy - Jiminez - Tammy

      Bench: Button - Mane - Reid - Soyuncu. This is what it looks like.

  16. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Best option to complete this midfield? Budget 9.2m

    kdb son alli xxxxxx dendo
    vardy rashford tammy

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I’d honestly say Maddison there

      Set & forget & it’s one less problem for your team in the long run and saves your future transfers to deal with actual issues

      It’s not even as if he’s guaranteed to blank v City & Liverpool - set pieces will be very important to Leicester in those two games, but he’s a long term pick

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Worth considering. Actually sold him for alli a couple of gws back. Cheers

      2. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Words of wisdom

  17. bennyp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    GTG?

    Pope - (Button)
    Aurier - Soy - Lund(c) - Kelly - (Tomori)
    KDB - Zaha - Alli - (Mane - Guendouzi)
    Kane - Vardy - Tammy

    2ft & 0.2itb. Cheers!

  18. Hazardous1983
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Rashford for abrham or alli for maddison for 2nd change?

    Or richarlison for maddison?

    1. Ajax Hamsterdam
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      alli

    2. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Richarlison

  19. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    lascelles to

    a willems
    b fernandez
    c targett

    thanks a lot

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Targett

      Also look at Mepham

      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        thanks a lot

  20. S3
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Rashford for Abraham?

  21. YoungPretender
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Mane & Greenwood > Grealish & Rashford for free?

    Would be wildcarding either Mane or Salah in before GW20, so would only be without a Liverpool attacker for (lei).

    1. SpaceCadet
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

  22. The Overthinker
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    All set. View about the gang ?

    Pope
    Evans Lundstram Egan aurier
    Sterling Alli(c) James
    Abraham Vardy Jimenez

    Button Hayden Soyunchu Salah

    Good luck everyone

    1. FirMinaMiMo
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Pretty cool gang with aurier 🙂

    2. Dilzy
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nice, going for Alli(c) as well

  23. Dilzy
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Best midfielder under 7.1 apart from Grealish?

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Traore could be gold - fixtures not that great after this one though

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Moura

  24. fplfansss
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    GTG?

    Pope
    Lund, Kelly, Rico
    KDB, James, Son, Cantwell
    Vardy, Abraham, Ings

    Bench: Button, Soy, TAA, Mane

    1 FT 0.6 ITB

  25. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    How many more weeks do we expect Kelly to be nailed?

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Ward is probably out for long, so should be fine for atleast one month

    2. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Think they will definitely sign a new RB come January.

  26. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Locked and loaded. Feels odd to have the runaway leader against a leaky defence as a differential captain. GL all

    Hendo
    Guilbert Rico Lund
    KdB Maddison Son Grealish
    Vardy C Ings Rashford

    Button Soy Kelly Mane (2.9itb)

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Planning for Son/Kevin to Salah?

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Grealish Rashford to Sterling Greenwood in 20 and Sterling to Mo in 21 is current thinking

        Don’t trust Rash at all and regret getting him in - suspect I jumped on the train too late and will only have price rises to show for it

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Interesting, surprised you can afford that midfield.

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            4 years, 4 months ago

            Ditched TAA - base cost of back line would be 4.0 4.0 4.3 4.4 4.5

            I’d actually have plenty itb afterwards for upgrades - less if I go Mousset over Greenwood

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I'm with you bro with Vardy © 🙂

    3. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Nice team

  27. tibollom
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    2 FTs and all chips intact - do I use my FTs or Free Hit?

    Heaton Button
    TAA Rico Dunk Lunds Chilwell
    Mane Son Grealish KDB Zaha
    Tammy Vards Greenwood

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Just 1FT and you are good to go

      1. tibollom
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        thanks mate, what you suggest?

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Chilwell to Aurier?

    2. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Chilwell > Aurier maybe and roll the other

      1. tibollom
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        thanks guys, whats the vision on aurier, fixtures?

    3. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      No eay do you use your Free hit with that team.
      4-4-2 this week just use 1 FT.

      1. tibollom
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        thanks mate, so chilwell to aurier seems to be the move people are telling me to do?

        1. The 12th Man
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Only because I can’t see any other obvious moves , yes.
          Taking it your keeping Mane and TAA.

  28. FirMinaMiMo
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Here's my team ! Lads!!!

    Guita 4.0*
    Lund kelly rico aurier soy*
    Son kdb grealish mane*
    Vardy rash jimmy

    Thoughts about my lineup!! 🙂
    Any thoughts will be welcomed !

    1. FirMinaMiMo
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Cantwell* 🙂

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Pretty much same as everyone, have fun! 😀

      1. FirMinaMiMo
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Same team same points hehe!!!! 🙂 ...starting aurier 🙂 ????

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Yes

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      I’d start Cantwell over Kelly - single Palace defence is enough this week

      Nice team

      1. FirMinaMiMo
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        Thank yu all 🙂

  29. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Over 50K casuals bought Salah this GW

    Bet they sold Mane to get him in

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Beating the price rise/drop 😉

  30. The 12th Man
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 4 months ago

    Took a -8 last night.

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 4 months ago

      Did you get Kane in?

      1. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        No. Rashford
        I went Moura instead

      2. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 4 months ago

        My moves were Robertson,Mané,Cantwell,
        Mousset
        >>
        Kelly,Moura,Richarlison,Rashford

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 4 months ago

          Whew bold - hope it pays