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Fantasy League

How FFScout team have fared so far in augural Fantasy League season

Blink and you’ll miss it. How are we now a couple of fixtures past the halfway point in the season? No doubt you’ve all been waiting with bated breath to see how your favourite team of Scout writers and experts are getting on in their inaugural season of playing the ultimate form of Fantasy Football that is Fantasy League (FL).

Are Geoff and Ted (Rotation) still fighting it out for top-pot. Is Chris (El Fozzie) still languishing at the bottom of the table? I’ll put you out of your misery:

Position Manager Points
1 David 277
2 Chris 231
3 Neale 223
4 Will 219
5 Ted 218
6 Clouseau 210
7 Geoff 207
8 Mat 199

Let’s just gloss over the fact that the Scout’s ‘FL expert’ (yours truly: there would be multiple laughing emojis here if I could add them…..) is a massive 67 points off the top and move onto David’s meteoric rise to the top of the table with a very significant cushion over everyone else.

How did he do it? I have two words for you: Jamie Vardy. Remember, that’s the beauty of FL: Vardy can only appear in one team. No one else can jump aboard the bandwagon as that ship sailed when David outbid everyone else at the auction, confident, even then, that the Leicester man would have a groundbreaking season.

Despite missing the latter half of the festive chaos, Vardy still sits 12 points above the next best player, Sadio Mané, who is the only player keeping Mat afloat (having accounted for almost a quarter of his total points).

Beneath David, you could throw a relatively small blanket over the rest of us and the positions from two to eight frequently change as someone has a stellar week or one to send you back to bed for a couple of days.

Although points are harder to come by in FL compared to FPL, 30+ points in a week isn’t unheard of (probably on a par with a 100+ point week in FPL) and that could see anyone from Geoff up to Neale overtaking Chris in second spot.

David’s success to date really does highlight how FL is all about the long game as it’s amazing the difference a couple of months can make. Last time out, I looked at the best team which could, in theory, have been acquired at our auction. Of the 15 players in that ultimate squad, only three (Mané, Pukki and Abraham) would still be in the best team as of this point in time, which looks like this:

GW21 Cost £m Points
Henderson 0 16
Doherty 3 21
Baldock 0 28
Kelly 0 18
Evans 0 23
Mane 19 49
Son 13 31
Mahrez 0 33
Vardy 29 61
Rashford 13 46
Abraham 5 42
Grealish 0 20
Calvert-Lewin 0 24
Pukki 10 33
Ings 3 43
Total: 95 496

The original team would still have a very impressive 358 points, 81 more than our own table-topper, David, but 138 fewer than this latest team.

To give that context, you’d have to score 46 unanswered goals to overtake a lead of that magnitude.

However, will this still be the best team as of the end of the season? My money says it won’t be although we could probably safely lock in Vardy and Mané!

If Kevin de Bruyne continues his current form then he will probably feature too but his price at the auction (£27m) means that other midfielders represent better value for money (vfm) for now, as is the case too with Trent Alexander-Arnold who tops the fullbacks chart with 42 points (his partner in crime, Andrew Robertson is next highest with 32 points), who cost £18m.

Given that you’ve only had my view of things up to this point, it’s time for a fresh perspective and fortunately the Scout’s very own Will (aka TopMarx) was kind enough to give me his own take on both the game and the season to date:

The challenge I’ve found with Fantasy League is grasping how it differs from FPL. 

For instance, it’s much harder for defenders to score points. They only get three points for a clean sheet and if they concede more than once, each goal costs them minus one. When Southampton lost 9-0 to Leicester their defenders scored minus eight.

So with defenders frequently getting negative points, I’ve decided that non-playing defenders – who are guaranteed zero points – aren’t a bad choice! However, my best transfer this season has undoubtedly been Kasper Schmeichel. The Leicester City ‘keeper has kept six clean sheets since I’ve owned him. 

The Super Subs feature means that the concept of a bench is very different in Fantasy League, as most of your squad will play each week. You also aren’t limited to owning just three forwards, as you are in FPL. 

Because goals are worth three points irrespective of whether a forward, midfielder or defender scores, it makes sense to me to load up on strikers – the players most likely to score goals. My squad of 15 currently contains six forwards and four midfielders.

How is my season going? Well, fairly average.

At the auction last summer I decided to go for balance and avoided splashing out big money on one player. I spent roughly an equal amount on Paul Pogba, Christian Eriksen, Marcus Rashford and Son Heung-min. The first two have been a big disappointment.

It was a mistake to pick Eriksen. I thought he would stay at Spurs but he still hasn’t re-integrated into the team. I finally got rid of him this week as it has become clear his situation is unlikely to change under Jose Mourinho.

The reason I held onto Eriksen for so long is that he has the potential to do well and there aren’t a huge amount of alternatives. It’s the same reason I still have an injured Pogba in my team. 
Nonetheless, I remain hopeful players like Wilfried Zaha, Neal Maupay, Sébastien Haller, and Joshua King will score a few goals to propel me up the table. Although with David running away with it, I’ll be happy to finish second.
Will makes some interesting points, the most significant of which is the situation with defenders this season; I’ll come onto this in a minute.

However, I’d like to start with what he says about Eriksen. Will is a Spurs fan (boo/yay/meh/haha: delete as necessary) and so he knew as well as anyone that the Danish international was looking for a move abroad last summer having refused to sign a new contract. Picking up Eriksen at the auction was still a perfectly reasonable thing to do because until a player has actually signed a contract elsewhere, there is always the possibility that they will stay put.

In Eriksen’s case, that turned out to be the case, albeit with severely limited playing time, particularly for a player of his supreme ability. Taking a calculated punt is often what Fantasy Football in any guise is all about as that’s what enables you to steal a march on your opponents, and pick up players who are undervalued and have sneaked under the radar.

Unfortunately, the key word there is ‘calculated’. Not to pick on Will at all but this example is too good not to use: Will paid £15m out of his £100m budget for a player who was, ultimately, a massive punt. To put that in context, Will is also the proud owner of Son, for whom he paid £13m.

A couple of seasons ago, that pricing would probably have been roughly spot on, but what has to be factored into the equation is the likelihood that the whole sum could be wasted on a player who leaves the Premier League or rots in the reserves all season.

I’m not suggesting that you build spreadsheets to model a fair price for such players (although I’m sure that there will be people who have done precisely that!), but if you think a player who is 99% certain to stay put is worth £15m, then the same player with a 50% chance of leaving should only be worth £7.5m (and before some pedant points it out, I’ve rounded down to the nearest half million). Fantasy football, be it FL or FPL, is all about risk/reward. There are no certainties but using some simple maths can help maximise the risk/reward balance.

Will’s observation about defensive points in FL cuts to the heart of one of the biggest differences between FL and FPL. Last season, seven of the top 20 highest scoring players in both FL and FPL were defenders/goalkeepers. The table below shows the current top 20 players for each game and their respective points:

Rank FL FL Points Rank FPL FPL Points
1 Vardy 61 1 Vardy 144
2 Mane 49 2 De Bruyne 141
3 De Bruyne 47 3 Mane 140
4 Rashford 46 4 Aubameyang 123
5 Aubameyang 43 5 Rashford 122
6 Ings 43 6= Salah 118
7= Abraham 42 6= Ings 118
7= TAA 42 8 Abraham 115
9 Salah 40 9 TAA 112
10= Sterling 37 10 Sterling 110
10= Kane 37 11 Jiminez 106
12= Aguero 36 12 Kane 104
12= Jiminez 36 13 Maddison 103
14= Mahrez 33 14 Pukki 100
14= Pukki 33 15= Lundstram 98
16 Robertson 32 15= Richarlison 98
17 Son 31 17 Robertson 95
18 Jesus 30 18 Grealish 94
19= Richarlison 29 19 Pereira 92
19= Van Dijk 29 20 Baldock 91

Predictably, there is a lot of overlap between the two lists even if the players’ ranks vary slightly. The FL list has three defenders (the big three from Liverpool’s back line), and the FPL list five.

Lundstram is listed as a midfielder in FL and so doesn’t make the list but, if he had been classified as a defender, he’d have pushed Virgil van Dijk into the 21st spot (who, strictly speaking, makes the FPL list in 20th equal position with Baldock and Firmino).

What’s more telling, and cuts to Will’s point, is at the opposite end of the points-scoring table. At present, there isn’t a single player in FPL who has a score below zero and whilst I haven’t had the time to go through every single player currently on zero, I’d wager that there won’t be more than a handful of them who have actually made it onto the pitch this season.

In FL, there are 75 (yes, seventy-five!) players with a minus score, ranging from -1 to -16. Unsurprisingly, the eight players with double digits’ worth of minus points come from Norwich, Southampton and Watford.

For anyone ‘unfortunate’ (I’m being kind here!) enough to own one of these players, they would need one of their other players to score at least a brace of goals and assists (10 points) to cancel out the negative impact of each of these defenders. I often see the word ‘assets’ used to describe players in FPL but, in FL, defenders can also very much be ‘liabilities’.

Of course, this season has been highly unusual. It would have been a very brave manager who, at their auction (or when selecting their initial FPL team), would have loaded up on Leicester, Sheffield United and Palace defenders. Is there anyone who went into their auction not wanting both Liverpool fullbacks?

Yet Watford only have one fewer cleansheet than Liverpool (albeit Liverpool tend not to ship eight goals when losing their cleansheet!). Do I expect that to be the case come the end of the season? Of course not. Even if normal service isn’t fully resumed in terms of the ‘big’ teams keeping their anticipated level of clean sheets, I suspect that the teams listed above will keep fewer (relatively) than they have to date.

The real difficulty can be knowing when to get aboard an unexpectedly good defence and, equally importantly, when to know that the run is over. Most seasons, at least one of the promoted teams will surprise everyone. They will have some standout players who make exceptional Fantasy players (particularly from a vfm perspective) and one of the teams will have a defence which is as watertight as the proverbial duck’s rear orifice.

In part, I suspect it’s the surprise factor, given that 17 of the 19 teams against whom they play won’t have had recent first-hand experience of playing them. But it’s rare that the clean sheets last the full season.

Lots of people climbed onto the Wolves defensive bandwagon last season and whilst the likes of Matt Doherty and Willy Boly offered good attacking threats too, Nuno Espirito Santo’s men only kept nine clean sheets all season, with four coming in the first eight games of the season.

That’s 30 games with only five shutouts and from December to May it was literally just one a month with the exception of March. Surprising? It certainly surprised me because I had it in my head that Wolves were a good defensive shout for this season, yet at this latest rate they’ll struggle to match last season’s tally (four in 21 to date).

Everton kept 14 clean sheets last season. 10 of these came in their last 17 matches of the season. If they’d had that form in the first half of the last season, they’d have surpassed Liverpool’s table-topping defensive form of 21 shutouts.

Remember before the start of this season when the Everton defence was ‘essential’ in FPL circles, and the only question was Lucas Digne or Seamus Coleman or both? How did that work out? I remember it all too well because as well as my FPL team (which kicked off with Coleman), both my FL teams started out with an Everton defender (Yerry Mina and Michael Keane: both freebies).

It won’t surprise anyone to hear that all three teams are currently devoid of Everton defenders, but only after taking too many minus points in my FL teams.

It’s very easy to live in the past in Fantasy Football. Historically, Arsenal were one of the best teams defensively. Even long after their Invicibles season, they still had a number of defenders who regularly topped the defensive charts or scored the sorts of points you’d expect from a premium defender. I’m talking about Thomas Vermaelen. Laurent Koscielny. Hector Bellerin.

Those days are gone. Long gone.

Arsenal managed eight shutouts last season. That was two fewer than Cardiff, who got relegated. This season I could make the same point about Chelsea, Spurs and Manchester United, another three teams you’d have previously put your house on keeping plenty of clean sheets and having high-scoring defenders.

This leads me into the final point I’d like to make: the worst thing about living in the past is that nostalgia can creep in. Nostalgia is probably the worst emotion of them all when it comes to Fantasy Football in any guise.

That player you loved watching at your club for numerous seasons. Or that player who singlehandedly won you your FL or FPL league years ago. You know the guy. He now needs a walking stick to make it from the subs bench to the pitch but you’ll include him in your team anyway in the way that you hate sprouts but still stick them on your plate every Christmas. Because it’s what you do. And when you pick him up at your auction, other managers will hide their smirks or smile at you with pity. Many years ago, a fellow FL manager was a Leeds fan and built his team every auction by acquiring every former Leeds player he could lay his hands on. He never won.

Trying to remove emotion is a reason I’m so pleased I don’t support a Premier League team. For those of you who do, I honestly don’t know how you do it. For me, it would make my brain crash. It would be like asking a calculator to divide by zero. Huge ‘error’ message.

The worst conundrum I face when watching a match is when I have an attacker playing against a goalkeeper, so I know that, barring a freak assist from the goalie, I’m not going to be scoring points from both players.

If I had my Fantasy player scoring against my real-life team, which caused the latter to lose, I suspect I’d spontaneously self-combust. Ditto seeing my team win courtesy of goals by players owned by my closest Fantasy rivals. Seriously, I don’t know how you stay sane. That said, I very much hope that you do all stay sane.

Simon March wrote an excellent piece last month on the impact Fantasy Football can have on your mental health. It is just a game but it can be a big determinant for many of us, myself included, of our mood on any given weekend or matchday. So I hope you all had a very successful festive period from an FL/FPL perspective and will take some of the cheer into the short January days ahead. Happy New Year!

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Clouseau Serious (for which you can read \'stressy\') fantasy football fan. Have been playing the auction-based version with its unique squads (fantasyleague.com) for over 20 years but more recently branched out into FPL. Follow me on Twitter @FFSClouseau”

812 Comments Post a Comment
  1. FirMinaMiMo
    8 months, 21 days ago

    How's my dgw?? Looking!!!

    Fab 4.0*
    Holgate soy gomez lund* soy*
    Salah mane kdb ozil snod
    Vardy rash greenwood*

    Will watch 22&23 and lemmie decide the captainship!! 🙂

    Thoughts??? About my team!!! 🙂

    1. Jullepuu
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Quite punty

      1. FirMinaMiMo
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Thank yu 🙂

    2. Cilly Bonnolly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      If you don't use up all your budget of exclamation marks and question marks, do you get less next year or something?

  2. The Strokes
    • 2 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    I’m thinking of transferring in Jesus does that sound ridiculous? (I need to get rid of Kane)
    Idea is:
    - With Aguero starting the cup, I fancy Jesus starting against AV.
    - City = best attack team against AV = one of the worst defense teams …

    1. Jullepuu
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Pretty bad idea because City has another cup game tomorrow

      1. The Strokes
        • 2 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Thanks, I'm going to check that match then.

    2. Holmes
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      For one week only?

      1. The Strokes
        • 2 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Next is CP so would at least keep him 2 weeks.
        My issue is finding a good striker for the next 4 week games as I need to get rid of Kane.

    3. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Surely Auba if you’re set on a straight swap? But don’t you need the Kane cash to get in your Liverpool trio like the rest of us?!

  3. Jullepuu
    • 1 Year
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Which is better?

    A) Holgate and Maddison
    B) Sidibe and Grealish

    1. AuFeld
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A if you're dropping Aurier.

      1. Jullepuu
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Yes I'm dropping Aurier but this is just for future planning meaning that Maddison doesn't come in yet

    2. The Strokes
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A

      1. Jullepuu
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Cheers

    3. B.D.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Maddy&Grealish doesn’t sound too bad in 3-5-2?

      1. Jullepuu
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        It doesn't sound bad but I'm playing 3-4-3 currently

        1. B.D.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          A

  4. Pras Scott Talent
    • 8 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Just finished my 5000 word article on how I am faring in all my mini leagues and all the subtle tactics involved from hereon to my quest to #1.

    Will send to the mods to publish ASAP. Although I am not sure everyone will enjoy reading it.

    1. Jullepuu
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Nice

    2. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      I will. Look forward to it.
      Then im going to steal all your ideas 🙂

    3. Slouch87
      • 4 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Only 5000 words? I can think of another who would consider this to be just a sentence. ☺

      1. Pras Scott Talent
        • 8 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Haha

  5. Lignja
    • 3 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Pope
    Taa, Soyuncu, Lundstram
    Mane, Kdb, Son, Traore
    Abraham, Rashfrod, Vardy

    Martin, Rico, Kelly, Dendoker

    gw23 save
    gw24

    a. Son, Rashford to Salah, Ings
    b. Son, Abraham to Salah, Ayew
    c. Rashfrod, Rico to Ings, Robertson
    d. Abraham, Rico to Ings, Robertson
    e. Rashford to Firmino

  6. Theo Walcat
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    do we prefer richarlison or martial? getting rid of Alli

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      despite the result last night Rich will still get you points in coming gws. Don't let that fuel your decision. He nearly scored yesterday , remember, bar a super save from Alisson

      1. Pieterke30
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Had him for two easy games under Ferguson and he didnt do anything.

        Im not a fan.

        1. potatoace
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Had Martial for 2 easy games not so long ago. He did what he always does to me. Can't even mention his name without a clenched fist.

          1. Pieterke30
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            8 months, 21 days ago

            I feel you. Have had him for the last two games, first time ever. 8 + 2. I will give him NOR (H) then probably sell.

            Im not a fan of him either.

            1. potatoace
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 months, 21 days ago

              He deserves nor at least, yes. I'm giving rash this last game too.

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Adrian got an appreciation by getting called as Allison 😮

        1. potatoace
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Oops, lol

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            8 months, 21 days ago

            😉

    2. Pieterke30
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Martial for this GW, Richarlison for the next 4-5.

      If you have KDB, Mané, Maddison and Grealish.

    3. Remo85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Tricky one, but I would go Richarlison purely for the fixture run

    4. AuFeld
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Martial for the stats.

    5. Theo Walcat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      thanks all, currently have salah mane and maddison in mid. took KDB out on a wildcard weeks back which I immediately regretted. I'd get him back but ive been priced out and need something different to catch mini league leader anyhoo.

  7. Tinmen
    • 7 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Evening guys, any help on what I should do here ? 2FT

    Ryan
    Trent Launstrum Rico
    Salah KDB Grealish Martial
    Kane Ings Vardy
    Button Tomori Kiko Dend

    A) Kane and Tomori to DCL and Soyuncu (to allow Martial to Mane next week)

    B) Kane to DCL and roll FT

    C) Kane to Auba

    1. B.D.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A

  8. Amey
    • 1 Year
    8 months, 21 days ago

    A. Alli to Maddison
    B. Pope to Ryan
    C. Both -4

    Looks like I'm in a loop & can't find a FT to sell Pope 😀

    1. sovietrockettes
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Thanks

    2. Karan14
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Thanks Karan 🙂

    3. aleksios
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A.

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Thanks

    4. AuFeld
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Congrats on your huge OR drop. I should be asking you for advise.

      A.

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Unanimous call then.
        Thanks bro.
        Yeah, I've been lucky in some GW's.
        Ingsy,Vardy,Mane,Taa have all helped me gain ground.
        Loving FPL atm 😀

    5. Tonyawesome69
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Thanks

    6. Hakim Ziyech
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Alli out it is definitely now.
        Will wait until The prestigious Carbao Cup games obviously & take the drop in Alli price on chin.
        Thanks bro

        1. Hakim Ziyech
          • 1 Year
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Yeah. Sexy OR

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Hopefully will get better 😛
            Can't wait for the next GW

            1. maratus
              • 6 Years
              8 months, 21 days ago

              You got quite similar OR trend with me.

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                8 months, 21 days ago

                Season of two halves.
                Before GW 9 & after GW 9.
                Main difference, booting Raz)Salad & Sir Jamie Vardy.

                Must be similar story 😉

                1. Amey
                  • 1 Year
                  8 months, 21 days ago

                  Getting Sir Jamie Vardy*

    7. B.D.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Ha ha
        I've never seen a clear poll as this.
        Thanks mate

        1. B.D.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          🙂

  9. gomez123
    • 7 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Still got all my chips and only have Mane from pool at the moment. Free hit a good option for the DGW24??...or just take a couple of hits on the way to get in 3 Liverpool players??

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Get Taa & relax

    2. Holmes
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Couple of hits since they are good for long term

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        this

  10. Bruno Commando
    • 6 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Have 1 FT and is in desperate need to replace Kane. Who would be a worthy successor?

    A) Kane -> Kun
    B) Kane -> Auba
    C) Kane -> Ings and upgrade Martial -> Salah

    Foster
    TAA // Rico // Soy // Lunds
    Mane // KDB // Martial
    Kane // Vardy // Jimenez

    Stekelenburg // Cantwell // Doncker // Kelly

    1. B.D.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      C

    2. sovietrockettes
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      C

    3. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      C

    4. Tonyawesome69
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      C

  11. Tonyawesome69
    • 1 Year
    8 months, 21 days ago

    With possible replacements for alli not impressing, is it time to pull the trigger on alli and rash > salah and 7.2 FWD (ings/dcl)?

    2ft 1.7itb
    pope ryan
    evans dunk TAA lundstram rico
    maddison KDB alli* mane traore
    rashford* vardy connolly

    1. B.D.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Yes

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        fixture proof ings or differential DCL?

        1. B.D.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 2 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Ings all the way for me

  12. g40steve
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Is it just me or are Everton assets off the menu for now?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      I was considering rich as a replacement for alli but been put off so might go early in the attacking LIV triple up.

    2. The Dance
      • 9 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Quite pleased with DCL for now, will give him the next three games to impress. Have to really as he’s one of few differentials which i need 😉

    3. Amey
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Yesterday was a shambolic performance tbh. Might see a fire if manager has given them some hairdryer treatment.

      Hold if you have, don't buy

  13. aleksios
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Is it worth to do Hendo to McCarthy to do VVD to Robbo?

    1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
      • 5 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Might just be

  14. Amey
    • 1 Year
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Is it only me who is not looking to TC someone in GW 24 ?
    Away fixtures, WHU Wolves ain't poshovers. Think it'll be close games. CS looks likely (maybe I'm biased as a double defense owner 😀 )

    1. maratus
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Liverpool can beat anyone 4-0.
      I rather use the chip for Pool aways than later for Pep roulette.

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        They can for sure.
        Mane © for me atm. Won't take anyrisk with © if I'm not playing TC.

    2. Holmes
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      o/

      We will get 2 out of 3 pieces of cake anyway

      1. Hakim Ziyech
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        & no left overs please 😉

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Good point Holmes.

    3. Slouch87
      • 4 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      I'm tempted to hold the TC for another day. As you say these fixtures aren't ideal and there may be better ones further down the line.

      1. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Yep.
        Will be a freefall OR wise though if popular TC fires 😮

        1. Slouch87
          • 4 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          It will only take a juicy Vardy DGW to be a better punt.

          1. Teddy Brewski
            • 6 Years
            8 months, 21 days ago

            This

          2. Pieterke30
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Correct

          3. Amey
            • 1 Year
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Ha ha
            For sure.
            Jamie Vardy is a Legend for me now.
            I take that advice. Thanks 🙂
            Mane © anyways so as Holmes said, will get 2/3 haul.

            1. Pieterke30
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 4 Years
              8 months, 21 days ago

              ... but if Vardy gets a juicy DGW later on, he will alos be C’d by those who ont have TC chip anymore?

              So, same same.

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                8 months, 21 days ago

                You're right.
                If one of those games was @ home, I'd have been dead certain on TC.
                You playing the chip ?
                Salah or Mane ?

              2. Slouch87
                • 4 Years
                8 months, 21 days ago

                Many will hold Mane & Salah for GW24 . It's swings and roundabouts.

        2. maratus
          • 6 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Bunch of top30k has burned chips already. Dont worry about OR now.

          1. Pieterke30
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Thats not wrong

          2. Amey
            • 1 Year
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Where have you found that information mate ?
            Mane © will be a shield move in that GW with highest owned player from Pool (?)
            I think I'll play safe

              1. maratus
                • 6 Years
                8 months, 21 days ago

                Top10k used:
                30% Triple cap
                21% Free hit
                17.5% Bench boost

                1. maratus
                  • 6 Years
                  8 months, 21 days ago

                  Oh actually i didnt look that sharp, thats overall used.
                  Top10k is
                  19.5%
                  16.7%
                  21%

              2. Amey
                • 1 Year
                8 months, 21 days ago

                Didn't know that that tool has this feature too.
                It's a brilliant tool.
                Thanks mate. 1/5 have used it then.

                It puts me in more belief of saving TC chip.

    4. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Its worth considering. As the weeks progess with champs league and maybe the league being decided theres a worry of greater rotation risk with the later dgws

      1. Pieterke30
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Agreed

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Definitely. It is safe option IMO to play TC that GW.
        Maybe, with Sane TC last season, I'm too circumspect

    5. Teddy Brewski
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      There could of course be better doubles down the line but they are the best team in the league who rarely rotate so will never be a bad option. They will undoubtedly score in both games and could get a hatful v West Ham. I’m highly likely personally to TC Mané or Salah dependant on who looks best over the next couple of weeks. If a Vardy double gameweek gets confirmed before then that makes the decision harder

      1. Pieterke30
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Probably wont be confirmed before that though?

        1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
          • 5 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Nothing will be confirmed, but we usually get a bit of a better picture after the 4th round of the cup and the 5th round draw in terms of teams likely to blank in the FA Cup qf and sf GWs. I think this is just before GW24?

          1. Amey
            • 1 Year
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Thanks for the information.

          2. Teddy Brewski
            • 6 Years
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Yep and if Leicester thrash villa on Wednesday we’ll then all but know they have a double. Vardy has got to be the ideal triple captain choice

            1. Amey
              • 1 Year
              8 months, 21 days ago

              Triple Party !!!

          3. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
            • 5 Years
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Just checked and FA Cup 4th round and 5th round draw is after GW24 starts, so going to be of little help.

            1. Slouch87
              • 4 Years
              8 months, 21 days ago

              I'm a gambler and it seems a decent gamble to wait.

              1. ⱼₐᵣᵥᵢₛₕ
                • 5 Years
                8 months, 21 days ago

                Maybe. I'm just thinking "bird in the hand" plus it is one less chip to worry about when to deploy in DGW season.

                1. Slouch87
                  • 4 Years
                  8 months, 21 days ago

                  A bird in the hand can often be a disappointment. 2 in bush is more appealing. ☺

      2. Amey
        • 1 Year
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Definitely won't get any DGW information prior to that IMO.
        Will be a tight GW as far as my gut feeling is saying. Probably that's why I've gone for double defense instead of mo Mane.

      3. Lord - Blaming it on Rio
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        If Leicester put Villa to the sword on Wednesday the only question will be when.

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Is it ??
          Wow.

          1. Lord - Blaming it on Rio
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            8 months, 21 days ago

            They would blank in GW31

            1. Lord - Blaming it on Rio
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              8 months, 21 days ago

              Correction - GW28

              1. Amey
                • 1 Year
                8 months, 21 days ago

                Saving FT would be helpful now with all variables in play.

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Ha ha

    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Like if Cristiano Ronaldo tried to become Ronaldinho

  15. BigBillyBass
    • 2 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    What to do with this bunch? Any recommendations?

    Pope (Guaita)
    TAA Soy Lund (Rico Kelly)
    Salah Mane KDB Traore (Grealish)
    Vardy Ings DCL

    1. Holmes
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Looks fine enough to save

    2. Amey
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Play Guaita ?

  16. Debauchy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Hey hey,, my my ....
    Rock and Roll will never die
    It's better to burn out than to fade away......
    Hey hey my my

    1. Debauchy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Context , do it ffs

  17. Tshelby
    • 5 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Hi all! How does this sound?

    2FT/1.1 ITB

    Guaita, Button
    Kelly, Kiko, Lundstram, Soy, TAA
    Mane, Alli, Richarlison, KdB, Hayden
    Ings, Jimenez, Vardy

    Alli and Kelly -> Grealish and Robbo

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Sounds good to me.
      Is Kiko fit now ?

      1. Tshelby
        • 5 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Don't really know haven't checked the news lately.. He wouldn't play anyway.
        Think Kelly is the one to go with Guaita being my goalie

    2. Kuzser
      • 3 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Good

  18. Kuzser
    • 3 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    What’s the best group of players to go ahead with to accomodate a 3rd LIV player?

    a) Rico - Maddison Salah Dendo - DCL play 3-4-3
    b) 3.9 - Salah Grealish Maddison -Greenwood play 3-5-2
    c) Rico - Grealish Salah Dendo - Jimenez play 3-4-3
    d) Robbo/VVD - Richarlison/Martial Maddison Dendo - Jimenez

    Ramsdale
    Taa Soy Lundstram Kelly X
    Mane Kdb X X X
    Vardy Ings X

  19. SHOWSTOPPERRR
    • 2 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Guys Pope gng dwn tonight?
    My Pp is 4.5 sp 4.6 and cp 4.7 so a drop means sp will also go dwn to 4.5?

    1. Holmes
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Yes

      1. SHOWSTOPPERRR
        • 2 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        So better to transfer him out tonight right as I have 2ft.. Now best replacement?fab or Ryan?

        1. Holmes
          • 6 Years
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Fabianski

          Foster is also worth considering

          1. SHOWSTOPPERRR
            • 2 Years
            8 months, 21 days ago

            Thanks mate

    2. Amey
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Boom
      I'm going to drop 0.2 Tonight then with Pope & Alli.
      Might go rogue & sell Pope For a hit.

      1. SHOWSTOPPERRR
        • 2 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Is Alli gonna drop again?

        1. Amey
          • 1 Year
          8 months, 21 days ago

          Need 5k more sells to drop

  20. EL tridente
    • 2 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Start 2:
    A) Soyuncu
    B) Lundstram
    C) Traore

    1. omarali1070
      8 months, 21 days ago

      I'd say Adama and Lunds ... But you can't go wrong with soy aswell

    2. Holmes
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      BC

      1. HashAttack
        • 3 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Traore and Lundstram and 1st and 2nd on my bench ... feels wrong but not much option

    3. Teddy Brewski
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      B and C

  21. omarali1070
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Any improvements??
    Leno
    TAA, Lunds, Saiss
    Salah, Mane, KDB, Adama
    Vardy, Jimenez, Ings

    McGovern, Cantwell, Dunk, Rico

    Thanks.

    1. Teddy Brewski
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Triple wolves nice this week. Not sure about it after that though

  22. fgdu
    • 6 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    play gomez or ricoooo

  23. tucaoneo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    I briefly looked at Ben Crellin's tweets about DGWs. It seems 24 has the best possible double fixtures for Liverpool. Also if they ever get another DGW later, the league will already have been wrapped up so there'll probably be rotation hell. So 24 is the best occasion to TC Mane or Salah if you are ever going to do it?

    1. Lindelol
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Flip a coin seriously

    2. Lindelol
      • 2 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      But both away games isn't quite tempting for me.

    3. Holmes
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      If you are just looking at Liverpool for triple captaincy, then yes this is the best possible double for them.

  24. Holmes
    • 6 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Blimey, Thats not my Traore! Made his Barca debut by replacing Neymar... 😆

    https://youtu.be/OyuypiLdpPE

    1. Amey
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Watched it previously.
      Has turned into a tank now !

  25. amit1964
    • 4 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    hii
    play:
    a)ings(lei)
    b) holgate(BHA)

    1. Holmes
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      A

    2. Amey
      • 1 Year
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Ingsy

      1. amit1964
        • 4 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        no cs for everton?

  26. New Post
  27. fc_skrald
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Best captain option for this team? - the armband is on Jiménez at the moment, guess it is about time for him to get more than one goal in a game.

    Guaita
    TAA, Digne, Lundstram
    Salah, KDB, Maddison, Grealish
    Vardy, Ings(VC), Jiménez(C)

    Martin, Aurier, Hayden, Kelly

    1. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Salah for me. Spurs can’t defend. Period.

  28. Forever In Our Shadow
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    8 months, 21 days ago

    Evening chaps. Anything pressing need changing with this lot? I feel like banking the ft this week.

    Foster Button
    TAA Soy Lundy Kelly Williams
    Salah Mane Maddy Grealish KDB
    Vardy Ings DCL

    1FT 0ITB.

    1. The Dance
      • 9 Years
      8 months, 21 days ago

      Yup, look way mire than good enough to save. I’m about 1.5m iff this team, but i WC’d and lost a bit of value in players.
      Nice team.

      1. The Dance
        • 9 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        more*

      2. Forever In Our Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        8 months, 21 days ago

        Thanks. Yes the big value is tied in players I wouldn't sell unless their leg falls off. Vardy KDB TAA Ings. The rest have a couple of 0.1’s in them. Just can’t see anything that interests me tbh.

  29. Igzie08
    • 3 Years
    8 months, 20 days ago

    Walker a good differential over TAA?

    40 points behind in ML and everyone above has TAA, so debating just getting Trent or finding a way to make up ground

    1. The Dance
      • 9 Years
      8 months, 20 days ago

      Hell no, TAA every time. Besides, 40 points is nothing, try 154 in my case lol!