Fantasy League

How FFScout team have fared so far in augural Fantasy League season

Blink and you’ll miss it. How are we now a couple of fixtures past the halfway point in the season? No doubt you’ve all been waiting with bated breath to see how your favourite team of Scout writers and experts are getting on in their inaugural season of playing the ultimate form of Fantasy Football that is Fantasy League (FL).

Are Geoff and Ted (Rotation) still fighting it out for top-pot. Is Chris (El Fozzie) still languishing at the bottom of the table? I’ll put you out of your misery:

Position Manager Points
1 David 277
2 Chris 231
3 Neale 223
4 Will 219
5 Ted 218
6 Clouseau 210
7 Geoff 207
8 Mat 199

Let’s just gloss over the fact that the Scout’s ‘FL expert’ (yours truly: there would be multiple laughing emojis here if I could add them…..) is a massive 67 points off the top and move onto David’s meteoric rise to the top of the table with a very significant cushion over everyone else.

How did he do it? I have two words for you: Jamie Vardy. Remember, that’s the beauty of FL: Vardy can only appear in one team. No one else can jump aboard the bandwagon as that ship sailed when David outbid everyone else at the auction, confident, even then, that the Leicester man would have a groundbreaking season.

Despite missing the latter half of the festive chaos, Vardy still sits 12 points above the next best player, Sadio Mané, who is the only player keeping Mat afloat (having accounted for almost a quarter of his total points).

Beneath David, you could throw a relatively small blanket over the rest of us and the positions from two to eight frequently change as someone has a stellar week or one to send you back to bed for a couple of days.

Although points are harder to come by in FL compared to FPL, 30+ points in a week isn’t unheard of (probably on a par with a 100+ point week in FPL) and that could see anyone from Geoff up to Neale overtaking Chris in second spot.

David’s success to date really does highlight how FL is all about the long game as it’s amazing the difference a couple of months can make. Last time out, I looked at the best team which could, in theory, have been acquired at our auction. Of the 15 players in that ultimate squad, only three (Mané, Pukki and Abraham) would still be in the best team as of this point in time, which looks like this:

GW21 Cost £m Points
Henderson 0 16
Doherty 3 21
Baldock 0 28
Kelly 0 18
Evans 0 23
Mane 19 49
Son 13 31
Mahrez 0 33
Vardy 29 61
Rashford 13 46
Abraham 5 42
Grealish 0 20
Calvert-Lewin 0 24
Pukki 10 33
Ings 3 43
Total: 95 496

The original team would still have a very impressive 358 points, 81 more than our own table-topper, David, but 138 fewer than this latest team.

To give that context, you’d have to score 46 unanswered goals to overtake a lead of that magnitude.

However, will this still be the best team as of the end of the season? My money says it won’t be although we could probably safely lock in Vardy and Mané!

If Kevin de Bruyne continues his current form then he will probably feature too but his price at the auction (£27m) means that other midfielders represent better value for money (vfm) for now, as is the case too with Trent Alexander-Arnold who tops the fullbacks chart with 42 points (his partner in crime, Andrew Robertson is next highest with 32 points), who cost £18m.

Given that you’ve only had my view of things up to this point, it’s time for a fresh perspective and fortunately the Scout’s very own Will (aka TopMarx) was kind enough to give me his own take on both the game and the season to date:

The challenge I’ve found with Fantasy League is grasping how it differs from FPL. 

For instance, it’s much harder for defenders to score points. They only get three points for a clean sheet and if they concede more than once, each goal costs them minus one. When Southampton lost 9-0 to Leicester their defenders scored minus eight.

So with defenders frequently getting negative points, I’ve decided that non-playing defenders – who are guaranteed zero points – aren’t a bad choice! However, my best transfer this season has undoubtedly been Kasper Schmeichel. The Leicester City ‘keeper has kept six clean sheets since I’ve owned him. 

The Super Subs feature means that the concept of a bench is very different in Fantasy League, as most of your squad will play each week. You also aren’t limited to owning just three forwards, as you are in FPL. 

Because goals are worth three points irrespective of whether a forward, midfielder or defender scores, it makes sense to me to load up on strikers – the players most likely to score goals. My squad of 15 currently contains six forwards and four midfielders.

How is my season going? Well, fairly average.

At the auction last summer I decided to go for balance and avoided splashing out big money on one player. I spent roughly an equal amount on Paul Pogba, Christian Eriksen, Marcus Rashford and Son Heung-min. The first two have been a big disappointment.

It was a mistake to pick Eriksen. I thought he would stay at Spurs but he still hasn’t re-integrated into the team. I finally got rid of him this week as it has become clear his situation is unlikely to change under Jose Mourinho.

The reason I held onto Eriksen for so long is that he has the potential to do well and there aren’t a huge amount of alternatives. It’s the same reason I still have an injured Pogba in my team. 
Nonetheless, I remain hopeful players like Wilfried Zaha, Neal Maupay, Sébastien Haller, and Joshua King will score a few goals to propel me up the table. Although with David running away with it, I’ll be happy to finish second.
Will makes some interesting points, the most significant of which is the situation with defenders this season; I’ll come onto this in a minute.

However, I’d like to start with what he says about Eriksen. Will is a Spurs fan (boo/yay/meh/haha: delete as necessary) and so he knew as well as anyone that the Danish international was looking for a move abroad last summer having refused to sign a new contract. Picking up Eriksen at the auction was still a perfectly reasonable thing to do because until a player has actually signed a contract elsewhere, there is always the possibility that they will stay put.

In Eriksen’s case, that turned out to be the case, albeit with severely limited playing time, particularly for a player of his supreme ability. Taking a calculated punt is often what Fantasy Football in any guise is all about as that’s what enables you to steal a march on your opponents, and pick up players who are undervalued and have sneaked under the radar.

Unfortunately, the key word there is ‘calculated’. Not to pick on Will at all but this example is too good not to use: Will paid £15m out of his £100m budget for a player who was, ultimately, a massive punt. To put that in context, Will is also the proud owner of Son, for whom he paid £13m.

A couple of seasons ago, that pricing would probably have been roughly spot on, but what has to be factored into the equation is the likelihood that the whole sum could be wasted on a player who leaves the Premier League or rots in the reserves all season.

I’m not suggesting that you build spreadsheets to model a fair price for such players (although I’m sure that there will be people who have done precisely that!), but if you think a player who is 99% certain to stay put is worth £15m, then the same player with a 50% chance of leaving should only be worth £7.5m (and before some pedant points it out, I’ve rounded down to the nearest half million). Fantasy football, be it FL or FPL, is all about risk/reward. There are no certainties but using some simple maths can help maximise the risk/reward balance.

Will’s observation about defensive points in FL cuts to the heart of one of the biggest differences between FL and FPL. Last season, seven of the top 20 highest scoring players in both FL and FPL were defenders/goalkeepers. The table below shows the current top 20 players for each game and their respective points:

Rank FL FL Points Rank FPL FPL Points
1 Vardy 61 1 Vardy 144
2 Mane 49 2 De Bruyne 141
3 De Bruyne 47 3 Mane 140
4 Rashford 46 4 Aubameyang 123
5 Aubameyang 43 5 Rashford 122
6 Ings 43 6= Salah 118
7= Abraham 42 6= Ings 118
7= TAA 42 8 Abraham 115
9 Salah 40 9 TAA 112
10= Sterling 37 10 Sterling 110
10= Kane 37 11 Jiminez 106
12= Aguero 36 12 Kane 104
12= Jiminez 36 13 Maddison 103
14= Mahrez 33 14 Pukki 100
14= Pukki 33 15= Lundstram 98
16 Robertson 32 15= Richarlison 98
17 Son 31 17 Robertson 95
18 Jesus 30 18 Grealish 94
19= Richarlison 29 19 Pereira 92
19= Van Dijk 29 20 Baldock 91

Predictably, there is a lot of overlap between the two lists even if the players’ ranks vary slightly. The FL list has three defenders (the big three from Liverpool’s back line), and the FPL list five.

Lundstram is listed as a midfielder in FL and so doesn’t make the list but, if he had been classified as a defender, he’d have pushed Virgil van Dijk into the 21st spot (who, strictly speaking, makes the FPL list in 20th equal position with Baldock and Firmino).

What’s more telling, and cuts to Will’s point, is at the opposite end of the points-scoring table. At present, there isn’t a single player in FPL who has a score below zero and whilst I haven’t had the time to go through every single player currently on zero, I’d wager that there won’t be more than a handful of them who have actually made it onto the pitch this season.

In FL, there are 75 (yes, seventy-five!) players with a minus score, ranging from -1 to -16. Unsurprisingly, the eight players with double digits’ worth of minus points come from Norwich, Southampton and Watford.

For anyone ‘unfortunate’ (I’m being kind here!) enough to own one of these players, they would need one of their other players to score at least a brace of goals and assists (10 points) to cancel out the negative impact of each of these defenders. I often see the word ‘assets’ used to describe players in FPL but, in FL, defenders can also very much be ‘liabilities’.

Of course, this season has been highly unusual. It would have been a very brave manager who, at their auction (or when selecting their initial FPL team), would have loaded up on Leicester, Sheffield United and Palace defenders. Is there anyone who went into their auction not wanting both Liverpool fullbacks?

Yet Watford only have one fewer cleansheet than Liverpool (albeit Liverpool tend not to ship eight goals when losing their cleansheet!). Do I expect that to be the case come the end of the season? Of course not. Even if normal service isn’t fully resumed in terms of the ‘big’ teams keeping their anticipated level of clean sheets, I suspect that the teams listed above will keep fewer (relatively) than they have to date.

The real difficulty can be knowing when to get aboard an unexpectedly good defence and, equally importantly, when to know that the run is over. Most seasons, at least one of the promoted teams will surprise everyone. They will have some standout players who make exceptional Fantasy players (particularly from a vfm perspective) and one of the teams will have a defence which is as watertight as the proverbial duck’s rear orifice.

In part, I suspect it’s the surprise factor, given that 17 of the 19 teams against whom they play won’t have had recent first-hand experience of playing them. But it’s rare that the clean sheets last the full season.

Lots of people climbed onto the Wolves defensive bandwagon last season and whilst the likes of Matt Doherty and Willy Boly offered good attacking threats too, Nuno Espirito Santo’s men only kept nine clean sheets all season, with four coming in the first eight games of the season.

That’s 30 games with only five shutouts and from December to May it was literally just one a month with the exception of March. Surprising? It certainly surprised me because I had it in my head that Wolves were a good defensive shout for this season, yet at this latest rate they’ll struggle to match last season’s tally (four in 21 to date).

Everton kept 14 clean sheets last season. 10 of these came in their last 17 matches of the season. If they’d had that form in the first half of the last season, they’d have surpassed Liverpool’s table-topping defensive form of 21 shutouts.

Remember before the start of this season when the Everton defence was ‘essential’ in FPL circles, and the only question was Lucas Digne or Seamus Coleman or both? How did that work out? I remember it all too well because as well as my FPL team (which kicked off with Coleman), both my FL teams started out with an Everton defender (Yerry Mina and Michael Keane: both freebies).

It won’t surprise anyone to hear that all three teams are currently devoid of Everton defenders, but only after taking too many minus points in my FL teams.

It’s very easy to live in the past in Fantasy Football. Historically, Arsenal were one of the best teams defensively. Even long after their Invicibles season, they still had a number of defenders who regularly topped the defensive charts or scored the sorts of points you’d expect from a premium defender. I’m talking about Thomas Vermaelen. Laurent Koscielny. Hector Bellerin.

Those days are gone. Long gone.

Arsenal managed eight shutouts last season. That was two fewer than Cardiff, who got relegated. This season I could make the same point about Chelsea, Spurs and Manchester United, another three teams you’d have previously put your house on keeping plenty of clean sheets and having high-scoring defenders.

This leads me into the final point I’d like to make: the worst thing about living in the past is that nostalgia can creep in. Nostalgia is probably the worst emotion of them all when it comes to Fantasy Football in any guise.

That player you loved watching at your club for numerous seasons. Or that player who singlehandedly won you your FL or FPL league years ago. You know the guy. He now needs a walking stick to make it from the subs bench to the pitch but you’ll include him in your team anyway in the way that you hate sprouts but still stick them on your plate every Christmas. Because it’s what you do. And when you pick him up at your auction, other managers will hide their smirks or smile at you with pity. Many years ago, a fellow FL manager was a Leeds fan and built his team every auction by acquiring every former Leeds player he could lay his hands on. He never won.

Trying to remove emotion is a reason I’m so pleased I don’t support a Premier League team. For those of you who do, I honestly don’t know how you do it. For me, it would make my brain crash. It would be like asking a calculator to divide by zero. Huge ‘error’ message.

The worst conundrum I face when watching a match is when I have an attacker playing against a goalkeeper, so I know that, barring a freak assist from the goalie, I’m not going to be scoring points from both players.

If I had my Fantasy player scoring against my real-life team, which caused the latter to lose, I suspect I’d spontaneously self-combust. Ditto seeing my team win courtesy of goals by players owned by my closest Fantasy rivals. Seriously, I don’t know how you stay sane. That said, I very much hope that you do all stay sane.

Simon March wrote an excellent piece last month on the impact Fantasy Football can have on your mental health. It is just a game but it can be a big determinant for many of us, myself included, of our mood on any given weekend or matchday. So I hope you all had a very successful festive period from an FL/FPL perspective and will take some of the cheer into the short January days ahead. Happy New Year!

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Clouseau Serious (for which you can read \'stressy\') fantasy football fan. Have been playing the auction-based version with its unique squads (fantasyleague.com) for over 20 years but more recently branched out into FPL. Follow me on Twitter @FFSClouseau”

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  1. shawry
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 18 days ago

    How does this look for a set up from GW24? Anyone particularly missing?

    McCarthy 4.0

    TAA - Soy - Sidibe - Lundstram - Rico

    Salah - Mane - KDB - Grealish - Cantwell

    Vardy - Ings - DCL

    22: Willems to Sidibe
    23: Guaita & Rashford to McCarthy & DCL
    24: Richarlison to Mane

    Cheers!

    1. HarryB29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 18 days ago

      v nice, have similar plans myself

    2. linkafu
        1 month, 18 days ago

        Maddison missing

    3. iL PiStOlErO
        1 month, 18 days ago

        Bottomed.

        Can I get some opinions on what to do with Maupay? Got him 2gw ago, he looks good so should I give him next few? Have 1.3itb and 1ft so can shift to Ings or DCL if needed. Cheers.

        1. S.Kuqi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          1 month, 18 days ago

          I'd give him few more gws

        2. Popcornharen
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 18 days ago

          I'd switch to DCL, great fixture coming up

        3. bench boost for every gamew…
          • 2 Years
          1 month, 18 days ago

          got one assist and a worldlie save from kepa away from a goal latest, Everton is tough away, but then it is very nice for a while, and even Everton it could be possible to get something. his ppm is 3.8, not bad for a 5.8 striker, and that includes some early doors when he was bedded into the first 11, a bit wasteful but he puts himself into good positions and Brighton fairly attacking and on pens. I´m going to give him at least Villa and Bou, if he fails then i would reconsider as it still nice games to come but more solid defences.

          1. iL PiStOlErO
              1 month, 18 days ago

              Thats the thing, I feel returns are around the corner for him, veey active player and envolved in everything. Lets hope keeping faith will reward us. DCL seems like a worse choice when compared to him. Cheers mate

        4. wulfranian
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 18 days ago

          What would you do here?Kane out is an obvious move.Who is the best forward?I am thinking Aguero/Auba or DCL.Also do you think it's worth to get Richarlison?Maybe now that i have 2ft it's a good time to sell Aurier?

          Ramsdale
          Rico/Sidibe/Gomez
          Mane/Martial/Grealish/Maddison/
          Kane/Wilson/Vardy

          Button DLuiz/Aurier/Reid
          2ft 0.9itb

          1. iL PiStOlErO
              1 month, 18 days ago

              You can get Kun and have some fun. City can disappoint but He will not disappoint

            • iL PiStOlErO
                1 month, 18 days ago

                P.s. Rich yes, Serge out also yes.

              • Devo-McDuff
                • 1 Year
                1 month, 18 days ago

                I think you'd be daft to get Kun. He's never been a bigger rotation risk with Jesus in good form and getting itchy about starting spots. I still think Kun will play the big games but Jesus will take way too many minutes off him to justify the premium price.

              • wulfranian
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 18 days ago

                cheers

            • S.Kuqi
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              1 month, 18 days ago

              Which one should I do? 2 Fts

              A) Abraham & Aurier -> Rash & Williams

              B) Pope & Aurier -> Fab & Holgate

              Pope
              Taa-Lund-Soy (Aurier,Kelly)
              Salah-Mane-Kdb-Grealish (Cantwell)
              Vardy-Abraham-Ings

              1. Holmes (specialist in failu…
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 18 days ago

                B. Boring but hopefully results in more points over next few weeks

                1. S.Kuqi
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  Probably the wiser move. No ManU could be a rank killer against Norwich

                  1. bench boost for every gamew…
                    • 2 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    perhaps but then they have Liverpool and some stiffer teams, so while i would wait on the move, a move beforehand is not in long term necessarily a bad move. I think b is a more sound move atm

              2. wulfranian
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 18 days ago

                You have 3 defenders(Taa-Lund-Soy) to start and one sub(Kelly).I don't think it's worth to have a 4.4 defender in the bench.Get Reid(3.9) and use the money to upgrade Grealish in the future.

                1. Fitzy.
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  Grealish doesn't need upgrading, and 0.5 isn't going to help get anyone decent anyway.

                  1. wulfranian
                    • 3 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    I would prefer to have Maddison over Grealish.

                2. S.Kuqi
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  So option A would be better?

                  1. wulfranian
                    • 3 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    B imo.

                  2. wulfranian
                    • 3 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    To sell Abraham with these two upcoming fixtures it would be a mistake.

                3. bench boost for every gamew…
                  • 2 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  i beg to differ as Kelly won´t be regular once Ward is back which is anytime soon and while cheap no points other than app is boring. Grealish on pens and for a team that can´t defend and main man, hm, you need about 6 million to upgrade him?

              3. Karan14
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 3 Years
                1 month, 18 days ago

                I like B.

                But consider Ryan or Henderson over Fab as they have much better fixtures long term.

                1. S.Kuqi
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  Good point. Those West Ham fixtures are pretty rough

            • Richard Richard (AKA: Anzhi…
              • 4 Years
              1 month, 18 days ago

              Ryan
              Soy Lundstram TAA
              Alli Martial Mane KDB
              Vardy Maupay Jimenez
              Button Rico Kelly Dendo
              4.1itb 1ft

              A. Alli to Salah
              B. Alli to Sterling for a week or two.
              C. Go the pool defender route instead of either.
              Currently undecided between Vardy and Kdb for captaincy.

              1. BrutalLogiC
                • 4 Years
                1 month, 18 days ago

                Not worried about Martial fitness?

                1. Richard Richard (AKA: Anzhi…
                  • 4 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  Well true - assuming he'll recover, If not, then I'm clueless 🙂

            • aborg
              • 2 Years
              1 month, 18 days ago

              Play Alli or Ayew this GW please?

              1. Holmes (specialist in failu…
                • 6 Years
                1 month, 18 days ago

                Ayew

            • reism1
                1 month, 18 days ago

                hendo
                taa soy rico
                kdb mane adama richi
                vardy ings jiminez

                Mccarthy Zaha Kelly targett

                0.8 itb how would you upgrade

              • Davidwes
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                1 month, 18 days ago

                worth doing Aurier and Alli-------> Richarlison and Sidibe for a -8?

                1. S.Kuqi
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 7 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  No

                2. Park the bus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  wow no

                3. Devo-McDuff
                  • 1 Year
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  My god no. -8 man!

                  Both good moves, but -8 man!

              • S.Kuqi
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                1 month, 18 days ago

                Any Grealish owner benching him this gw?

                1. Park the bus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  will play him ahead of Cantwell

                2. Jullepuu
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    Between him and Soyuncu if I decide to go for Sidibe

                    1. S.Kuqi
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 7 Years
                      1 month, 18 days ago

                      I'll probably bench Grealish if I decide to bring Holgate in

                  • Davidwes
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    nope

                  • Devo-McDuff
                    • 1 Year
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    Trying to figure out whether to start him or Traore. Undecided at the moment.

                  • aborg
                    • 2 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    Benching him for Soyunchu but still torn apart as I won't be surprised if Grealish scores or assists against a leaky City defense.
                    If anything it will be an odd goal from AVL though.

                3. Park the bus
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  articles becoming far too long on this site. anyone else feel there's also too much content? (never thought that would be possible).

                  1. S.Kuqi
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 7 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    I rarely read them nowadays 🙁

                    1. Park the bus
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      1 month, 18 days ago

                      yep usually get to a paragraph, become disengaged, check the length and go straight to the comments. long for the return of the pre match preamble tbh

                  2. Holmes (specialist in failu…
                    • 6 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    Just have to increase your scrolling speed 😉

                  3. Bury94
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 2 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    Not at all, love readings the articles, I never don't read one

                4. Worsle90
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 3 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  Pope
                  TA-A, Robbo, Lundstram, Holgate
                  Mane, KDB, Traore, Martial
                  Aguero, Vardy

                  Button, Aurier, Dendoncker, Greenwood

                  1. Worsle90
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 3 Years
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    Sorry - looking for tips

                    1. S.Kuqi
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 7 Years
                      1 month, 18 days ago

                      Fts and itb?

                      1. Worsle90
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 3 Years
                        1 month, 18 days ago

                        2FT, £0.0 ITB

                        1. S.Kuqi
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 7 Years
                          1 month, 18 days ago

                          Aurier for Williams and save other ft.

                          Get Grealish for Traore next gw

                5. gomez123
                  • 6 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  is it possible to see how many people have already used their 2nd WC??

                6. dshv
                  • 2 Years
                  1 month, 18 days ago

                  Choose one:

                  1. Alli to salah
                  2. Deff to Taa

                  1. Devo-McDuff
                    • 1 Year
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    If you have Mane, 2.

                7. Jullepuu
                    1 month, 18 days ago

                    Who is the best Everton defender to go for if money isn't an issue?

                    1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
                      • 5 Years
                      1 month, 18 days ago

                      Sibide, Digne
                      Holgate good value though

                      1. Jullepuu
                          1 month, 18 days ago

                          Holgate is good value but surely Sidibe and Digne will score more points than him. Toss up between Sidibe and Digne?

                          1. Zlatanzo
                              1 month, 18 days ago

                              Of course they will, but think of what you could use the extra money for...

                        • S.Kuqi
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 7 Years
                          1 month, 18 days ago

                          Holgate

                          1. Jullepuu
                              1 month, 18 days ago

                              Interesting. I don't think that he will outscore Digne or Sidibe in the next five game weeks.

                        • KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
                          • 5 Years
                          1 month, 18 days ago

                          4.7 for a new goalie
                          Currently have Pope and would like Ryan but of course 0.1 out...

                          a) Keep Pope
                          b) McCarthy
                          c) someone else

                          1. Worsle90
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 3 Years
                            1 month, 18 days ago

                            Keep Pope

                            1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
                              • 5 Years
                              1 month, 18 days ago

                              *Tut* wanted some excitement

                        • Arteta
                          • 4 Years
                          1 month, 18 days ago

                          Whenever someone mentions Leeds United I automatically think of HENRY, CHANCE, GOAL!!!!!

                          1. Arteta
                            • 4 Years
                            1 month, 18 days ago

                            After almost 8 years it still gives me goosebumps. The stuff of legend!

                        • Davidwes
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          1 month, 18 days ago

                          my backline is
                          Rico TAA Lundstram (Kelly Aurier)
                          I really dont like rico at home to watford. Is it worth to transfer out Aurier to Holgate for a -4?

                          1. KLOPPS AND ROBBERS... the s…
                            • 5 Years
                            1 month, 18 days ago

                            Playing Rico vs Holgate + minus 4

                            Play Rico but you do need rid of Aurier

                            1. Davidwes
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              1 month, 18 days ago

                              might aswell get rid of him this week then? I do prefer holgate over rico. Just cant see bournemouth keeping a clean sheet

                          2. I SPEAK ENGELS AND DRINK GI…
                              1 month, 18 days ago

                              I dont think its worth getting nonscoring defender for -4

                              1. Davidwes
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                1 month, 18 days ago

                                Almost scored against liverpool in the fa cup though. The thing is that if I hold aurier I need to hold him until gameweek 24 to not take a hit. Really dont want him in the squad

                          3. Miguel Sanchez
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 3 Years
                            1 month, 18 days ago

                            Looks like I'm benching Alli this GW. Anything worth a move here?

                            Guaita
                            TAA Lundstram Rico
                            Salah KDB Richarlison Traore
                            Vardy(c) Jimenez Ings

                            McGovern Alli Targett C.Taylor 1FT 1.8 ITB

                            Alli can eventually go to Mané with a Richarlison downgrade or can use Alli to get Robertson.

                            1. Don Kloppeone
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 2 Years
                              1 month, 18 days ago

                              I was planning on benching Alli this week but ended up moving him in last night for fear he would drop and scupper my plans.

                              I think your team looks fine for this week to roll.

                              I’m planning on the Salah/ Mané double up myself. I just think the ceiling is so much higher and I don’t think the resulting team is too unbalanced with so many value in strikers and defence.

                              1. Miguel Sanchez
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 3 Years
                                1 month, 18 days ago

                                Cheers for your inputs - if you had both Salah and Mane who would you captain in the DGW and would you definitely TC them?

                                1. Don Kloppeone
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 2 Years
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  Based on recent performances Salah.

                                  I’m still undecided on TC. It feels very early to play it. Although TC is so often a disappointment!

                                  Will continue to monitor both over GWs 22 and 23 and decide late on!

                                  What you leaning towards mate?

                                  1. Miguel Sanchez
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 3 Years
                                    1 month, 18 days ago

                                    Will almost certainly play TC then as I think both of Salah and Mané will be given substantial minutes in both DGW fixtures with them being trickier away ties around a likely rest in the Cup.

                                    My natural inclination is to want to captain Salah as I feel he is the more explosive player and has the better record of the two away from home. As such I'm wondering whether I should bring in Mané at all if I'm not gonna be captaining him as his EO will effectively make me want him to blank so I may actually be better off bringing in Robertson instead.

                                    The safer play is to bring in Mané and TC him rather than Salah but I'm not sure I like that option. Still a couple of weeks to decide.

                                    1. Don Kloppeone
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 2 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      I know what you mean but all this stuff with wanting your own players to blank is a funny one for me.

                                      I’d rather have both, TC the better one and enjoy the points overall and not dwell on the EO etc

                          4. kuzser
                            • 2 Years
                            1 month, 18 days ago

                            What’s the best group of players to go ahead with to accomodate a 3rd LIV player guys?

                            a) Rico - Maddison Salah Dendo - DCL play 3-4-3
                            b) 3.9 - Salah Grealish Maddison -Greenwood play 3-5-2
                            c) Rico - Grealish Salah Dendo - Jimenez play 3-4-3
                            d) Robbo/VVD - Richarlison/Martial Maddison Dendo - Jimenez

                            Ramsdale
                            Taa Soy Lundstram Kelly X
                            Mane Kdb X X X
                            Vardy Ings X

                            1. I SPEAK ENGELS AND DRINK GI…
                                1 month, 18 days ago

                                I went C, then we have almost identical team. I have Dunk and Hayden instead of Rico and Dendo

                            2. pumpkinhead
                              • 5 Years
                              1 month, 18 days ago

                              Who starts up front with Kane out?

                              1. Miguel Sanchez
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 3 Years
                                1 month, 18 days ago

                                Son

                              2. iL PiStOlErO
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  Sonny boy. Thinking of getting him next week for Alli.

                                • Over Midwicket
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 8 Years
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  Lucash Moureira

                              3. Davidwes
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                1 month, 18 days ago

                                Will Alli now become a great option with Kane out?

                                1. Debauchy
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 7 Years
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  Spurs as a whole pretty toothless of late ?

                                2. Don Kloppeone
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 2 Years
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  It didn’t seem it in the last match and he was already starting to lose his sheen even before Kane got injured.

                                  1. Debauchy
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 7 Years
                                    1 month, 18 days ago

                                    Yeah , I have the biatch damn. May just bench and watch one more

                                    1. Davidwes
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      Or transfer him out to Maddison or Richarlison. If i keep him i will just play him i think

                                    2. Don Kloppeone
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 2 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      I was planning on benching Alli this week but ended up moving him on last night for fear he would drop and scupper my plans.

                              4. rokonto
                                • 4 Years
                                1 month, 18 days ago

                                When do we think Grealish will rise?

                                1. Over Midwicket
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 8 Years
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  Valentine's Day if he's lucky

                                  1. rokonto
                                    • 4 Years
                                    1 month, 16 days ago

                                    😀

                              5. Pointless
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 4 Years
                                1 month, 18 days ago

                                How did Son look yesterday? Did he play centre forward? I’m considering a switch from Alli.

                                1. Over Midwicket
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 8 Years
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  The smiling jackal himself

                                2. Don Kloppeone
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 2 Years
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  I’m thinking I’ll wait until after GW24 to see if he is delivering and then may switch one of Salah or Mané to him

                              6. phily4321
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 1 Year
                                1 month, 18 days ago

                                Ryan
                                Lundstram/Soy/TAA
                                KDB/Alli/Grealish/Mane
                                Vardy/Abraham/Rashford
                                Bench: Button/Kelly/Rico/Saka

                                1FT

                                Maddison in for Alli for free

                                Go for it?

                                1. I SPEAK ENGELS AND DRINK GI…
                                    1 month, 18 days ago

                                    I went Richarlison instead, pretty much same starting 11

                                2. Netters2018
                                  • 1 Year
                                  1 month, 18 days ago

                                  I have TAA and Salah, who best to bring in for the triple up in DGW24?

                                  a) Robbo
                                  b) Mane
                                  c) VVD

                                  1. Le Bluff
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 8 Years
                                    1 month, 18 days ago

                                    Mane.

                                  2. Zlatanzo
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      All depends on team structure, but Mane is ideal

                                    • Jarvish Scott Talent
                                      • 5 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      I think this question needs a broader view - Liverpool have great fixtures after GW24, so it is really who you want for a good few weeks, not just 24 in isolation. I would want the potential bounty of attacking points personally over this reasonably long period.

                                      1. Debauchy
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 7 Years
                                        1 month, 18 days ago

                                        This x 3

                                      2. Netters2018
                                        • 1 Year
                                        1 month, 18 days ago

                                        Thanks for the advice, it will just be for the short term i don't tend to go with tripling up on one team so thinking the potential of two clean sheets could be better than Mane and Salah?

                                        I can get Robbo in for one move as have 1.8 itb so can go sidibe - Robbo.
                                        Or take out Martial and Jimi and go with Mane and Fodder for a week or two and then bring Jimi back in.

                                  3. dbeck
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 2 Years
                                    1 month, 18 days ago

                                    Best option:

                                    A) DCL (in a 343)
                                    B) Traore (in a 352)

                                    With A my strikers would be Maupay Vardy and DCL which feels a bit weak and offers what I feel is a less flexible structure. But DCL should score more points than Traore right?

                                    1. Holmes (specialist in failu…
                                      • 6 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      Yep, A

                                    2. SAY MY NAME
                                      • 2 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      a

                                    3. dbeck
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 2 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      cheers, if long term A means I have to stick with Pope (can move to McCarthy but not sure thats worth it) where B i can do Pope to Ryan/Fab. Should this be a factor?

                                  4. Jimmy Boy
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    • 3 Years
                                    1 month, 18 days ago

                                    A) Kane > DCL
                                    Alli > Salah

                                    B) Kane > DCL
                                    Alli > Mane

                                    C) Kane > Lacazette/Rashford
                                    Alli > Son

                                    1. Jimmy Boy
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 3 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      *Got 2FT so no hits

                                      1. Villa Velour
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 4 Years
                                        1 month, 18 days ago

                                        Coin flip between A & B.

                                  5. Davidwes
                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                    1 month, 18 days ago

                                    Should we get rid of KDB for a liverpool attacker for dgw 24

                                    1. Villa Velour
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 4 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      KDB can be explosive in any game, that's the lesson I learnt after taking him out 2 weeks before Arsenal game.

                                  6. Zlatanzo
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      Best 4th mid enabler?? 5.9m and under... Currently leaning towards Doucore as a punt, Traore's fixtures after next 2 aren't great.
                                      A) Traore
                                      B) Doucore
                                      C) Jahanbakash
                                      D) Snodgrass

                                      1. Villa Velour
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 4 Years
                                        1 month, 18 days ago

                                        E) Trossard?

                                    • rnrd
                                      • 5 Years
                                      1 month, 18 days ago

                                      can't help thinking DCL is a trap ..

                                      1. Top Lad Dakes.
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 3 Years
                                        1 month, 18 days ago

                                        Same... though I thought the same of Ings and 10 or so weeks later he’s still scoring, and still not in my frontline 🙁 (Rashford Jimenez vardy)

                                        Likely to ditch Rashford after this week for him, so he’ll get injured then