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Recapping the best Norwich players ahead of FPL restart

The Fantasy Premier League assets at Norwich are likely to be few and far between for the remainder of 2019/20 – but there is still plenty about their squad that FPL managers should be aware of.

We are currently recapping which players went into the coronavirus (COVID-19) suspension in the best form, using each club’s last six matches for the analysis.

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  1. the vanisher
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Engels nailed for Aston Villa? only have 4.3 for my last BB spot

    1. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      What about Targett?

      1. Forza Papac
        • 4 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        He's 4.4

    2. Jellyfish
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      No, Smith tends to rotate Engels with Konsa so I'd avoid.

      If you've only got 4.3 then Aarons is a decent pick

  2. King Kohli
    • 7 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Which Sgw player do you think will outscore their Dgw counterpart?

    I think Mane outscores Sterling this week

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      TAA and Wolves/Chelsea assets too

    2. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      I was just looking at my free hit team and had exactly the same thought about Mane. I can't justify the outlay for Sterling when Mahrez could do equally well for a lot cheaper.

      Abraham/Jiminez probably good options too.

  3. FPLord
    • 10 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Played my WC just a couple of weeks ago. It feels kind of wrong to ignore the unlimited transfers and play my FH chip, but don't find a way to set up a team that covers the DGW and the upcoming fixtures. Would you rather FH with this team?

    Leno Pope
    TAA Saiss Alonso Taylor Tanganga
    Salah KDB Fernandes Sarr Hayden
    Auba DCL Jimenez 0.1

    1. CFC1990
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Yeah team looks good going forward

    2. HamezMace
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      My advice to people in this boat is to use unlimited transfers to get a cheap bench of DGWers that won’t affect your main 11. (Saka, Nketiah/Martinelli, Targett/Mings/Reina for example)
      Then pick an 11 you’d be happy with for the rest of the season.
      Probably include one of Auba or Aguero as they will be highly captained this week.
      One of KdB/Sterling/Mahrez.
      And you probably have SHU defenders already anyway.

    3. the vanisher
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      You can change Pope,Alonso, DCL and Taylor to accomodate 3 or 4 DGWers and BB

      1. FPLord
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Not keen on the super cheapies as I don't think that they will score me many points this week. If I use the unlimited transfers I'd just do the following:
        Alonso > Egan
        Salah > Mahrez
        Sarr > Grealish
        DCL > Aguero

        Would then probably bring Mane/Salah with the money of Auba or Aguero in GW33

  4. Ibra
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Is there any reason to have any City-players after this DGW?

    A) They have nothing to play for
    B) They have a lot of good players
    C) Pep has 5 substitutes per match

    Why Pep would use his best players in starting XI twice in a week as they have nothing to play for and he has a lot of options? When players play twice in a week it increases risk of injuries a lot which could affect City's next season.

    1. CFC1990
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      To be honest I think a lot of attackers wont play 90 mins. Even if players dont start games they will probably come on

      1. HamezMace
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Yep, it’s a minefield that’s impossible to predict.

    2. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      They can´t be rested all the time either if he wants them to be fit and play well together. But you have a point.

      1. Ibra
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Yeah so if they have a two games in a week they could use these guys in a midweek game:

        Sterling - Aguero - Bilva
        KDB - Rodri - Dilva

        And these guys in a weekend game:

        Sane - Jesus - Mahrez
        Foden - Fernandinho - Gundogan

        I guess KDB is the most nailed attacking player for City and I don't see any reason why he would start over 75% of City's remaining games.

    3. FPLord
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      City will always score loads and their fixtures from GW33 onwards are great. Difficult to go without but I get your point. KDB and maybe Laporte are the way to go forward for me.

      1. Ibra
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Yeah, they'll probably score a lot of goals but this is very unusual situation. Players aren't in as good shape as they are normally. City has a lot of options and now when they haven't anything to play for, they could give some minutes also to youngsters like Foden and Garcia.

        1. jason_ni
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 23 days ago

          Im prob going to stick with Kdb, and Foden as cheap option, I think he'll get plenty of minutes in the run in, well at least as many as the other city options, but could be way off.

    4. Ron_Swanson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Agree on points B and C, but not A. These players want to win each game regardless

    5. Jellyfish
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Got a feeling Jesus may get some good game time in the run in so will be watching him

  5. CFC1990
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Where do you guys stand on the Mahrez vs Sterling debate?

    Is it worth getting Mahrez in at the cheaper price to allow upgrades elsewhere?

    In my situation it allows me to keep both TAA and Doherty, both of whom I have value in, after my current BB.

    What do you guys think?

    1. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      I have Mahrez for the exact same reason 🙂

    2. King Kohli
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Mahrez.
      Not much between them, might as well go for the cheaper one and improve squad elsewhere

    3. CFC1990
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      It looks as though Mahrez has been over performing and Sterlimg underperforming. I think Sterling more likely to start but who knows

    4. Sun Jihai
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Mahrez
      Sterling is completely overrated as a player

    5. merin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Neither. Going Laporte, KDB and Aguero

    6. El Presidente
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Sterling probably will play more minutes. Perfomace wise, who knows? If their cost was similar who would you go for?

  6. grooveymatt65
    • 6 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    What do you think about this BB team? I plan to Wildcard next GW. I realise I am risking it by not having TAA lol.

    Leno Henderson

    Basham Robertson Bednarek Targett Egan

    Sterling De Bruyne Saka Barnes Grealish

    Aguero Aubameyang DCL

    0.2 itb

    thanks guys

    1. Hitmonlee
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 23 days ago

      I feel like you need Lundy and Trent, Saka not nailed and I’d swap DCL for Pukki

      Just my opinion!

  7. CONNERS
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Unsure about what to do with Salah for GW30 re his injury and missing training, etc.

    Was intending to play him but now considering a swap for Mane.

    Hold for now and wait for any news?

    1. Hitmonlee
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Didn’t realise he was injured! Makes even more sense to FH now.

      If I was starting from scratch I’d pick Mane anyway.. I chose him at the beginning of the season when everyone else picked Salah. It worked wonders for me.

    2. HamezMace
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      I don’t know if we’ll get more news now.
      But yes, a real concern, I don’t see him starting after missing both of the ‘preseason’ friendlies.

    3. CONNERS
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 23 days ago

      I don't think it's anything significant - perhaps just a precaution.

    4. Jon Walter's Hatty
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      For those of us needing to reinvest the cash for the DGW it's a green light...

      1. baps sniffer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Yes, the only question is what do with Mane. BB is expensive, every penny needed and it is Derby.

      1. Jon Walter's Hatty
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Maybe they both start on the bench and come on if things are not working out.

      2. Jullepuu
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 23 days ago

        I think that Klopp starts Salah every game until the title is confirmed

  8. Hitmonlee
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 23 days ago

    The closer we get to the deadline, the more I’m starting to see that DGW players aren’t essential, feels like “scraping the barrel”.

    Based on that, I’ve come up with the following FH team, 8 DGW players and 3 SGW that I feel will perform well:

    Hendo
    TAA / Doherty / Lundy / O’Connell
    Sterling / KDB / Grealish
    Aguero (c) / Auba / Jimenez

    I could swap Jiménez for Tammy and upgrade O’Connell to Baldock instead, just not sure how nailed Tammy is as Giroud was showing form.. Thoughts?

    1. HamezMace
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Yes if you’re not BB’ing I think you can justify those 3 SGWers performing as well as any of the DGWers you could afford to replace them.

    2. Jon Walter's Hatty
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      The main question is the value tied up I think. For example TAA could become Alonso with 1m+ spare to upgrade your bench (unless for some reason you will use FH this week). If you want players with value tied up for the long term then keep them.

      1. Hitmonlee
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 23 days ago

        It’s a FH team mate

  9. what's my name
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    for gw 30+
    a. Tammy + Mane
    b. Jim + Bruno

    1. SHOOTER MCGINN
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      A

  10. ChelseaBlues223
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 23 days ago

    My FH team. What do you think?

    Hendo
    TAA, Stevens, Baldock
    Sterling, KDB, Grealish, McGinn
    Kun, Auba, Abraham

    1. what's my name
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      template so probz good

  11. MrCloppity
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Free hit played. Is this good to go?

    Henderson

    Baldock Lundstram Alexander-Arnold

    De Bruyne Fernandes Mahrez Saka

    Abraham Agüero Aubameyang

  12. Vazza
    1 month, 23 days ago

    On a FH, which combo is better -

    1. Leno, Mane, McGinn
    2. TAA, Martial, Abraham (or Jimenez)

    1. Vazza
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Any suggestions?

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      2 probably

  13. Lignja
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    xxx, Reina
    Taa, Saiss, Lundstram, Lascales, xxx
    Kdb, Mahrez, Mount, Grealish, Saka
    Auba, Aguero, Vardy

    BB this week, have FH and WC

    A. Pope, Target
    B. Mcarty, Egan

    Thanks

    1. King Kohli
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      B

  14. liverpool01
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 23 days ago

    FH

    Leno
    Boldok, Stevens, Lundstram
    Kdb, Mahrez, Pepe, Grealish
    (C)Aguero, Abraham, Auba

    Martin, Soyuncu, Mcginn, Kilman

    0.0 ITB

    Any thoughts?

    1. Jambot
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Like the triple sheff.u defence especially as you have the more attacking ones. Like the GK and attackers too. Personally I’d go with Sterling and another double player. I’m not sure Pepe is worth the Mahrez downgrade but that’s just me.

      1. liverpool01
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Cool thanks, yeh I have doubts about Pepe too

  15. BigBillyBass
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Current team...

    Henderson (McCarthy)
    TAA Doherty Boly (Stephens Taylor)
    Salah KDB Bruno Sarr (Cantwell)
    Auba Jimenez Ings

    No WC or TC left.

    Am I right in thinking my strategy now should be to FH in GW30 and load up for the double, then BB further down the line?

    1. King Kohli
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Yes can load up for the double

  16. Skogen89
    • 6 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    My bb team, still have wc and free hitt. How does it look?

    Leno henderson
    Taa, targett, lundstram, stevens, lascelles
    Kdb, mahrez, pepe, grealish, cantwell
    Aguero, auba, samatta

    Plan to wc next gw..

    1. Bruno BaNani
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Like it.

      I’d actually prefer baldock or O’Connell over Lundi, due to safety of starts. But his ceiling is much higher if he starts both.

      Looks like you can afford Sterling over mahrez by downgrading Pepe.

      No value in your old players, or you don’t care losing it?

      1. Skogen89
        • 6 Years
        1 month, 22 days ago

        Thanks, dunno about sterling.. Before covid he was crap so not sure i wanna go there.

        Yeah i suppose i had some value tied up, but have been burned protecting value before. I"ll go for it this time

  17. Essential
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Which combo do you prefer?

    A Samatta H Barnes
    B Abraham Cantwell

    1. Jambot
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      A

    2. Tinkermania
      1 month, 23 days ago

      A

    3. what's my name
      • 2 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      B could easily outscore A

  18. ChelseaBlues223
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 23 days ago

    A Sterling and McGinn
    B Mahrez and Fernandes

    1. Essential
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      A

    2. Ludwig Swe
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      B

    3. Jambot
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      A

  19. Oggle22
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Current team:
    Pope
    TAA Lundstarm Saiss
    Fernando's Salah Martial KDB
    Jiminez Ings DCL

    Mccarthy Stephens Mount Holgate

    Unlimited FT team (with BB) :
    Henderson
    TAA Baldock Lundstarm Saiss
    Salah KDB Grealish Cantwell
    Aguero(c) Aubameyang

    Leno Lascelles Saka Connolly

    Any help much appreciated ML rival has Salah and I'm 25points behind time to gamble?

    1. Tinkermania
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Even better gamble if you do Salah to Sterling

      1. Oggle22
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Was thinking about this but ML rival has Salah so was debating playing it safe

    2. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Still have WC? 25 points not much, no need for big punts. Looks decent, maybe Duda over Cantwell to be a bit different.

      1. Oggle22
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Yer still got my WC and who is Duda?

    3. Pep Pig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      I feel the Salah to Sterling move would be solid... Surely then give Connolly an upgrade. Though Nketiah is a more viable option who should pick up game time

      1. Oggle22
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Good shout I've got no bottle haha might go for it though

    4. XABI 15
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      I would consider FH if I were you. Your current team is great to have in 31

      1. Oggle22
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Still got my wildcard so debating going free transfers, WC straight after then save FH for end of season time when teasm have nothing to play for?

      2. Oggle22
        • 3 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Also if I don't use FH gives me a chance to BB this week

        1. XABI 15
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 23 days ago

          both good options tbh.

          Having your WC is basically like a FH if playing v close to end of season.

          So I guess your debate comes down to:

          1. For 31 having used up BB and WC
          2. Or 31 have team above and only used FH but lost out on a second playing keeper + 3 players most likely sgw in 30

          I think team above is close to what a lot of people will WC too. wolves and united exposure with some liverpool and DCL. Have a draft of a 31 WC team and see how different it is to your current team

  20. LewanGOALski
    • 8 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    I might have nailed it finally 😉

    Leno - Kepa
    Alonso - Doherty - Lundstram - Egan - Aarons/Lascelles
    KDB - Mahrez - Grealish - H.Barnes - Fleck
    Aguero - Auba - Pukki

    GW30+ BB
    GW31+ WC

    thoughts? 🙂

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Nailed it

    2. XABI 15
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      why Kepa surely better lower risk options out there

    3. Jafooli
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Your SV must be insane....

  21. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Which city players are going to get more than 90 mins?

    1. Pep Pig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Even educated guesses could be way off mate.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Yeah no doubt

        Struggling with whose worth bringing in in addition to Kdb

        Kun seems obvious but then surely he’s going to play against Chelsea

    2. Ron_Swanson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Even Pep doesn't know

    3. Skogen89
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 21 days ago

      Laporte

  22. Corgzzzz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Guys on a FH I need to fill a single gw player...

    A, TAA
    B, Alonso.
    C. Abraham.
    D. any other for 8.0m

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Answer is always TAA

      1. Kaz77
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Yep - must for the rest of the season for me

  23. BigBillyBass
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Why are people putting Leno in on a free hit? Do they want minus scores??

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      One of few ok Arsenal options - saves against City, CS vs Brighton? SHU defs cheaper than Hendo?

    2. Bruno BaNani
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Double gw and the save points are appealing. Don’t expect a cs. Not even vs brighton.

    3. HamezMace
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      He’s not in my team, but I do understand why people are picking him.

  24. Crump
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Hey all, I have a plan of action but not sure whether it would work?

    I plan on using my free wildcard to design a team for GW31+ and beyond. Once I'm happy with it, what happens if I subsequently activate my Free Hit for DGW30+? After DGW30+, will my squad revert back to how it was originally, or how it was after I made transfers using the free wildcard? I'm guessing the latter, but never had this scenario before!

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Free WC transfers will vanish (sadly)

      1. Crump
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Seriously? Well there goes my evil plan

  25. Kaz77
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Morning all
    With having no WC left, I thought I would save the BB for GW3 and the FH for when I need to attack my mini-league. Therefore, to try and maximise the double, but have a resilient team for the next few GWs the following is my plan. Grealish to come out for Mount possibly after 31. Nothing left in the bank (was going to have Mahrez in for Bruno, but I would lose 0.1 and then not be able to get him back in). Anything obvious I am missing, or suggestions as to alternatives:
    Pope/Henderson
    Aurier/Trent/Saiss/O'Connell/Lascelles
    Mane/De Bruyne/Fernandes/Grealish/Duda
    Auba/Jiminez/Abraham

  26. XABI 15
    • 4 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Current team is the below and I have FH, WC and BB left.

    Pope
    TAA Doherty Boly
    Barnes Salah Mane KDB
    Jimenez Ings DCL

    Button Soyuncu Cantwell Rico

    For gameweek 31 would you rather have:
    1. Team above + BB + WC + no playing bench in 30
    2. WC team (wont be able to afford team above) + FH + fully playing bench in 30

  27. Ayew Shaw
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Not sure who to get in for Doherty bc is he really worth 6.3??

    Pope
    TAA Doherty Baldock
    Mane KDB Fernandes Mount Cantwell
    DCL Aubameyang

    Bench: Button Rico Greenwood Williams

    Cheers

    1. XABI 15
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Doherty is great. Keep him

      1. Ayew Shaw
        • 1 Year
        1 month, 23 days ago

        Changed my team bc I needed 0.1 for cantwell but ended up changing a lot:

        Pope
        TAA AWB Baldock
        KDB Mane Fernandes Mount
        Aubameyang DCL

        Bench: Button Rico Greenwood Janmaat

        1. XABI 15
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 23 days ago

          get your 0.1 by downgrading Baldock to Egan or a cheaper SHU defender

  28. Goodbye Horses
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 2 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    I take it Bernardo Silva's off the menu then?

    Haven't seen one RMT with him in.

    1. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Which will naturally make him the GW's highest scorer.

    2. HamezMace
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      I think he’s a good option personally, but I feel KdB is slightly safer, and Aguero and Sterling have a more explosive feel.

    3. The Pesci challenge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Going more mahrez myself

    4. Ron_Swanson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      He is in my team actually - haven't posted it before, but here it is:

      Henderson
      Stevens, Baldock, Luiz
      KDB, B Silva, Pepe, Grealish
      Aguero, Auba, Abraham

      (this is a FH team)

      1. Goodbye Horses
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        That's pretty damn good, tbh.

    5. Wild Rover
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Thing is he has a low ceiling, even if he played 180 mins he's likely to score fewer points than the alternatives if they only play 120

      1. Goodbye Horses
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 2 Years
        1 month, 23 days ago

        It really comes down to Mahrez & McGinn or Bilva & Grealish in my team. Unless I dump TAA.

  29. wilson007
    1 month, 23 days ago

    How is this BB?

    Leno Reina
    TAA O'Connell Egan Basham Lascelles
    KDB Sterling Mahrez Pepe Grealish
    Auba Samatta Long

    Thanks guys.

  30. The Pesci challenge
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    1 month, 23 days ago

    Is Kane and Alli too much spurs from gw31?

    1. Ron_Swanson
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 23 days ago

      Not sure about Alli - maybe wait until you see him in GW31 before you bring him in given his ban for the first game