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Eliteserien Runde 12 – Looking forward to the Double Gameweek

In my last couple of articles, I’ve focused on the top defensive and midfield Fantasy assets so it only follows that this week’s focus will be on the top-scoring forwards in the game. As Gameweek 12 is the first double-gameweek of the season, I’ll also include how I’m going to approach this Fantasy milestone.

88 games in and we’ve had 261 goals. That’s three away from exactly three goals a game. To compare, the Premier League season ended with 1,034 goals over 380 games, or 2.72 goals per game. That’s pretty high, but we’d need another 106 goals to match the lust for goals that has been quite prevalent in Norwegian’s highest footballing tier.

The top 10 goal-scoring forwards in ESF have scored 53 goals between them, or 20.31% of the entire goals scored in the league. Again, to compare with the Premier League that would be like the top 10 point-scoring forwards ending the season on almost 24 goals each. In case you’re wondering if that’s impressive or not, I’d say it probably is.

Of course, the top 3 forwards (Junker 10, Borven 8, Fridjonsson 8) do skew our numbers somewhat (they contribute for just under 50% of our 53 goals) but still, we do have other players who are performing well enough to be considered alternative Fantasy options.

After looking at our Top Ten forwards, I’ll address the elephant in the room that is the first double gameweek of the season and how I will be approaching it. I’m not against taking a hit but just because we are entering a DGW doesn’t mean I think spending points to make transfers is always necessary. As ever I encourage debate on the subject, so please comment below with your own strategy.

The top 10 forwards we’ll be looking at are as follows:

1. Kasper Junker (86pts)

2. Torgeir Borven (64pts)

3. Holmbert Fridjonsson (50pts)

4. Daouda Bamba (46pts)

5. Lars Jorgen Salvesen (46pts)

6. Leke James (44pts)

7. Ohikhuame Omoijunafo (40pts)

8. Veton Berisha (40pts)

9. Moses Mawa (38pts)

10. Matthias Vilhjalmsson (38pts)

We’ll be looking at the following 10 categories:

1. Goals Scored

2. Assists

3. Total Shots/Shots on Target/% Conversion Rate

4. Big Chances Missed

5. Penalty Goals

6. Bonus Points

1) Goals Scored

Unsurprisingly Kasper Junker leads the way with 10 goals scored after just 770 minutes. Or, 1.17 goals a game. What’s even more impressive is that he’s not even made 60 minutes on two separate occasions (one game he scored 10pts with a goal and an assist, the other he blanked) and he missed another altogether. He’s in a league of his own right now and given the way both he and Glimt are playing, I can’t see him being caught any time soon.

Last season’s top goal-scorer Torgeir Borven is joint second with 8 goals, but 6 of those came in the first four games of the season when he was still at Odd. He’s since scored just twice for new club Rosenborg (in 549 minutes, or 6.1 games) which suggests he’s going through something of a transitional period which would make sense as Rosenborg themselves are certainly far from the finished article they aspire to be.

Holmbert Fridjonsson also has 8 goals after bagging a hat-trick against IK Start on Wednesday evening. He has one of the best goals per game ratio in the league (1.09 goals/game) which is even better than it first sounds when taking the club he plays for into consideration. Only four teams have scored more than Aalesunds, but they are rock bottom of the league and already look to be the whipping boys of the division.

Molde duo Leke James and Ohikhuame Omoijuanfo have scored 6 and 4 goals respectively but seem to be sharing minutes, meaning we have two premium forwards who are not guaranteed game time. At the same time, their attacking potential (AP) is quite formidable. James is averaging 1.04 goals every game, while Ohi is a bit behind on 0.85 goals per game. However, a mere four points separate the two and Fridjonsson is just 10pts ahead of Ohi, despite having played 240 minutes more than him.

Ibrahim Shuaibu and Mathias Bringaker have both scored the same amount of goals as Ohi (4) pushing Salvesen and Berisha out of the top ten for goals scored. Tobias Lauritsen has scored three times (as much as Mawa and Vilhjalmsson) but will be out for at least three months due to his shocking injury at the hands of Aalesunds goalkeeper Gudmund Kongshavn.

Lars Jorgen Salvesen hasn’t missed a minute up to this point but has only scored twice. While he may be struggling to get goals, he’s one of the most nailed forwards in the league so if he picks up a bit of form it’s hard to see him not starting/being hooked early. Along with Veton Berisha (2 goals) he drops out of the top ten goal scorers despite his points tally.

Moses Mawa and Matthias Vilhjalmsson (3 goals) have as many goals as Daouda Bamba who since scoring three goals in his first three games has really seemed to struggle up front of late. The Brann forward has cut a frustrated figure since being substituted early against Rosenborg – it seems as though something is not right there.

Right now it looks like Junker is the must-have forward based solely on goal involvement, with Fridjonsson just behind. As they’re both relatively cheap, they offer great value for money, allowing funds to be thrown around the rest of the team without too much issue.

(Goals Scored: Junker 10, Borven 8, Fridjonsson 8, Bamba 3, Salvesen 2, James 6, Ohi 4, Berisha 2, Mawa 3, Vilhjalmsson 3).

2) Assists

While more associated with midfielders, assists provide another route into scoring Fantasy points and while the leading forwards may be out-and-out goal-scorers, some of the chasing pack will usually have a couple more strings to their bows and not only be able to score a good amount of goals, they’ll also offer AP in assists.

This is most certainly the case for Junker. He’s got 4 real-world (RW) and 2 Fantasy assists to give him the most out of any forward in the league. In fact, only Magnus Wolff Eikrem 7, Jens Petter Hauge 7 and Philip Zinckernagel 9 have more than him. He started the season at 8mNOK so it should be no surprise that on the cusp of Runde 12, he’s now worth an astonishing 8.9m.

Salvesen may be something of a goal-shy forward right now, but he’s contributed 5 assists in total (3RW, 2F) putting him one behind Junker. He may not be the most dynamic player going but hasn’t let his lack of goals get in the way of being a team player. Berisha has 3 assists (2RW, 1F) to go with his two goals. Viking don’t seem to be a team full of goals which is a massive concern and Berisha will have to do a lot to convince most managers he’s worth a huge 8.8m especially when Junker is a mere 0.1m more expensive.

Ohi 2, Bamba 2, Vilhjalmsson 2 and Borven 2 (1RW, 1F) occupy the next few places in our list while Lauritsen 2, sneaks in ahead of James 1. Fridjonsson and Mawa are both yet to register a single assist, showing that they are perhaps only to be valued in terms of how many goals they will score, rather than being involved in providing any kind of noticeable service to their teammates.

Overall the correlation is quite high in this category, as only two of our players miss out on the top ten for total assists. It’s a shame Lauritsen has suffered such an awful injury (one that could potentially derail his fledgeling career) as he seemed to be asserting himself as the number striker at Odd since Borven’s departure,

(Assists: Junker 6, Borven 2, Fridjonsson 0, Bamba 2, Salvesen 5, James 1, Ohi 2, Berisha 3, Mawa 0, Vilhjalmsson 2)

3) Shots/Shots on Target/% Conversion Rate

Salvesen (29) leads the way and only Zinckernagel (30) has more shots than him. The issue is that only 9 of those shots have been on target and his conversion rate is 6.9%. That’s shocking if we’re being honest. 14 of Bamba’s 24 shots have been on target and he has a conversion rate of 12.5%. That’s almost double Salvesen’s but it’s still pretty poor. No wonder these two are trailing their peers – they’re being far too wasteful.

Junker, on the other hand, has had 10 fewer shots than Salvesen – 19 – but 12 of them have been on target and his conversion rate is 52.63%. Once again, a Bodo/Glimt player catches the eye and not just because of their bright yellow kit. Quality over quantity has been a concurrent theme in these articles – this is a perfect example.

Fridjonsson’s numbers are equally as impressive. He’s had 18 shots, with 11 being on target and a conversion rate of 44.44%. For someone who is playing for the team rooted to the bottom of the league – that’s good going. Borven has had a total of 17 shots with 9 being on target and a conversion rate of 47.06%. Since joining Rosenborg he’s had just two shots on target in seven games which should be cause for concern for his owners – he’s not playing like he was at Odd.

Vilhjalmsson has had the same amount of shots as Borven, actually being more accurate (11 on target) even though his conversion rate is almost 3 times worse (17.65%). Berisha is in a similar boat (15/7/13.33%) perhaps indicating these guys are not who we should be looking to for goals at this moment in time. Due to Vilhjalmsson’s age and his slightly deeper positioning and Berisha’s lack of instinct, I can’t say I expect to see much difference in this area over the next 5-10 games.

Ohi Omoijuanfo has had 16 shots (8 on target) and a conversion rate of 25%. Not too shabby at all, but his teammate Leke James, while having fewer shots (15), has 11 on target and a far superior conversion rate of 40%. If money is no object and you’re finding it hard to choose between these two, pretty much all the information we have to this point shows that James is the much better option.

Mawa has a respectable 15 shots with 8 on target and a conversion rate of 20%. I feel as though if he was able to produce 29 shots like his partner Salvesen, he’d be scoring a few more goals. He’s capable of getting in good positions and links up well with those around him so potentially if he’s given the chances to get in front of goal a bit more, he may well become a bit more productive.

I’m happy to suggest we should consider how many chances our forwards are getting but judge their accuracy rather than a lust for shots. Sometimes it’s better not to shot, looking to draw a teammate into the next phase of play rather than simply hitting the ball vapidly towards goal. It seems as though Salvesen is trying too hard to impress those around him and needs to focus a bit more on his shooting in training.

(Shots/On Target/% Rate: Junker 19/12/52.63%, Borven 17/9/47.06%, Fridjonsson 18/11/44.44%, Bamba 24/14/12.5%, Salvesen 29/9/6.9%, James 15/11/40%, Ohi 16/8/25%, Berisha 15/7/13.33%, Mawa 15/8/20%, Vilhjalmsson 17/11/17.65%)

4) Big Chances Missed

It’s only natural to be concerned with the form of our players and simply rage-transferring those who are failing to return on our investment can actually do more harm than good. Whether or not our players are taking their big chances is hugely important. We’ve already seen how wasteful the top-scoring forwards in the game have been, but how does that translate into missing big chances?

If a high points-scoring forward with not so many goals is missing a lot of big chances it can be seen as both a positive and a negative thing. They may be missing opportunities to score but, on the other hand, they are being given those chances other forwards may not have the luxury to squander. At this stage of the season, we should be mindful of some players taking their time to find their form. If the chances continue to present themselves, it wouldn’t be the most far-fetched logic to assume our premium forwards will eventually start converting those chances.

Ohi, Bamba, Salvesen and Mawa have all missed 6 big chances – more than anyone else. James has been less wasteful, only missing 2 big chances, while Berisha (4) and Vilhjalmsson (3) once again show they are a yard or two off the pace.

Junker (0), Borven (1) and Fridjonsson (1) are sending a very clear message to Fantasy managers all around the world: We. Do. Not. Miss. Borven is a special case right now as he was far more prolific at Odd, but Junker and Fridjonsson are clearly elite, efficient and effective. Triple E forwards whose value should be quite glaringly obvious.

In terms of correlation this hasn’t been too helpful, other than to show how efficient Junker, Fridjonsson and James are. The rest of our group are slightly more wasteful but it shows they are at least being given the chances to indeed score.

(Big Chances Missed: Junker 0, Borven 1, Fridjonsson 1, Bamba 6, Salvesen 6, James 2, Ohi 6, Berisha 4, Mawa 6, Vilhjalmsson 3)

5) Penalty Goals

What type of forwards do we have on our hands? A really quick look into how many goals our forwards are scoring from penalties is helpful on two levels: 1) Are they the designated penalty taker for their team? (Thus boosting their appeal) and 2) what percentage of their goals are coming from penalties rather than open play.

James, Ohi, Berisha and Fridjonsson have all scored one, Vilhjalmsson two and Borven out in front on 3. All three of Borven’s penalty goals were scored while he was at Odd. If he is not on penalty duty for Rosenborg it wouldn’t be too dramatic to suggest his appeal has severely diminished as over a third of his goals this season have come from the penalty spot.

As they do not take penalties for their clubs, Junker, Bamba, Mawa and Salvesen are all on zero. If you’ve not got Junker in your team yet, I implore you to bring him in. The guy doesn’t need special favours to score goals, he just scores. Simple as that.

Over half our top ten have scored penalties which gives us another reason to have them in our team. It shouldn’t blind us too much though, as Castro is AAFK’s usual penalty-taker and Borven scored his penalties at Odd and if both James and Ohi are playing who takes the penalties?

(Penalty Goals: Junker 0, Borven 3, Fridjonsson 1, Bamba 0, Salvesen 0, James 1, Ohi 1, Berisha 1, Mawa 0, Vilhjalmsson 2)

6) Bonus Points

This is the category in which we find the most correlation. Nine out of our ten players make the actual top ten (Vilhjalmsson unsurprisingly missing out with 0 BFP). All things considered, this shouldn’t be too surprising – if you do well across the board, you’re going to be rewarded for that. Our forwards have been awarded bonus points on 21 separate occasions, 18 of those occasions when at least one goal was scored. From this, it’s quite clear our forwards are being rewarded for scoring with a healthy supply of bonus points.

Only three times have bonus points been awarded to our top ten when they didn’t score. Bamba was awarded 1 BFP for an assist against Sandefjord and Berisha was given 2 BFP for a single assist away to FK Haugesund (ironically only being given a single bonus point when he scored and assisted at home to Sandefjord) while Mawa banked 2 BFP despite failing to either score or get an assist at home to Odd.

The list of BFP awarded to our top players is as follows:

• Junker 10 (3,2,3,2)

• Borven 5 (3,2 – Odd)

• Fridjonsson 5 (2,3)

• Bamba 7 (3,3 – when scored,1 assist)

• Salvesen 3 (1,2)

• James 5 (1,1,3)

• Ohi 4 (1,3)

• Berisha 4 (1,3 assist)

• Mawa 5 (2 no return,3)

• Vilhjalmsson 0

If we use Junker as the benchmark, we can see we’re doing pretty well in this department. BFP is a largely subjective aspect of the game – quite often we’ll see players who didn’t directly contribute as much as other players given more BFP due to their efforts in other areas. I think this system is a good one as we see players who excel in other areas rewarded for their efforts, rather than simply throwing bonus points at reactive goal scorers. Although the man in the stand could do with hanging around a bit longer after the last game of the week – we usually have to wait until the morning after for the game to update…

Conclusion and DGW Approach

At this moment in time, it really does seem like we’re clutching at straws when it comes to forwards. Junker is by far and away the must-have pick up top. Nobody comes close to his numbers and he’s playing for the best team in the league. Statistically speaking and going by any Fantasy metric of your choosing, the guy is basically essential.

Borven was great at Odd. Unrivalled perhaps. At Rosenborg it’s another story. He’s not as good. He’s in a worse team. And he’s often being played out of position. It’s hard to argue he’s worth the money, but he is a player of great quality. It has to be a case of ‘wait and see’, rather than insisting that next week will be his week. He’s scored a couple for Rosenborg but he doesn’t seem the same since moving. It seems like a poor fit to say the very least.

Fridjonsson could be a very cheap second striker. Before his price begins to rocket. I’ve avoided going for him this week as Niklas Castro will miss out due to suspension. Though Simen Nordlii is another competent provider and all-round good Fantasy asset, I feel Fridjonsson’s appeal diminishes somewhat without Castro. When he’s back for Aalesund’s home fixture against Viking, there’s a good chance Fridjonsson will come straight into my team.

Bamba and Salvesen are two heavyweight players with premium price-tags to match; poetically reflecting their own wastefulness up front with their owners’ investment in them. They’re a hard sell but do play for teams that are creating chances on a constant basis. Bamba has the potential to be an explosive player with a much higher points ceiling than he’s displaying this season, and Salvesen is in the path of some of the most creative players in the league – you’d expect in another ten games time for a huge improvement.

James and Ohi will more than likely continue to share game time, playing together on occasion. There will always be a risk attached to choosing one over the other but seeing as both have quite high ceilings, they can definitely reward any investor willing to put up with the odd cameo here and there.

Berisha, Mawa and Vilhjalmsson seem to offer the least out of all our players. If Stromsgodset decided to revert to playing with a single striker up front then Salevesen would without question get the nod ahead of Mawa, either pushing him out on the flank or back towards the bench. Vilhjalmsson is not playing up front for Valerenga and looks for less effective in a deeper role. The fact he is on penalty duty gives him limited appeal – it’s not enough to make up for the lack of goal-threat he offers.

Berisha is perhaps looked at harshly due to his value and the fact he’s not scoring as many goals as most of us thought he would, but he’s also playing for a team near the bottom of the table who often make it look harder than it should be to mount a serious attack. He’s scored as many goals as Viking defender Adrian Pereira, and set up just one more. If I was looking to bring in a Viking asset for their attacking qualities, I’d probably jump at Pereira for almost 3m less.

I currently have Junker and Ohi up front with the terribly ‘gambled upon’ Flamur Kastrati. After the double Gameweek I will be bringing in Fridjonsson for Kastrati, deciding what to do with Ohi the following week. If the rest of my team isn’t too badly affected, I may end up deciding to keep Ohi as the other options really aren’t that appealing.

Speaking of the double gameweek, I have decided to triple up on Molde assets despite taking a hit of -8pts. Whilst not being averse to taking hits, I’ve not made this move without quite a lot of consideration. Before bringing in Linde I had Viljar Myhra (in my opinion one of the best-performing keepers in the league) and Kristoffer Klaesson. Myrha is up against Bodo/Glimt and Klaesson against Brann. Both away from home. I fully expect both teams to lose, therefore I’m quite confident neither keeper will amass more than 2 or 3pts. I am confident that Molde will keep at least one clean sheet against either Sandefjord and IK Start in the double. Even if he doesn’t, he should at least halve my deficit in the very worst outcome.

Etzaz Hussain was in my team beforehand, but to be able to bring in Ohi, I had to make an extra transfer. This is where my conflict lay. I knew I wanted one of James or Ohi but would have to take an extra hit to be able to bring either of them in. James is too expensive for me as I don’t want to tear apart my midfield or defence for him. Ohi, however, allowed me to remove my most-recently bought midfielder – the brilliant Mikkel Maigaard – and bring in the ‘alright’ Niklas Sandberg as a replacement. I was happy to make that sacrifice.

Ohi comes in to replace Borven up front and provides me with not only a shield for the DGW but a chance to get some big points. He’s a huge differential compared to James (6.3% ownership – 27.5%) and goes into DGW 12 on the back of two assists and a goal as well as 3 BFP. It’s a high-risk strategy as he’s more than capable of blanking or being outperformed by James, but he’s shown on several occasions he can be just as good. Ohi was also started more last season and in general preferred to James, even if the latter was more efficient at taking his chances and scoring points.

Eikrem is obviously another choice for the DGW that most people will look to. I did say at the start of the season I thought he’d see fewer minutes and while that has been the case, he’s always a lethal player if given the chance to work the ball around. Hussain is on 3 yellow cards, putting him one more booking away from a suspension – an issue that a lot of people are aware of, making him a less attractive choice. Molde are like Manchester City in the sense they have such depth in midfield. It really does feel like a lottery at times. Add to that the fixtures they have this week – Sandefjord away and IK Start at home – they don’t need to put out full-strength sides in both games. Their only concern will be to make sure they do not drop any points at all, as they’d ideally want to be level on points with Glimt come Wednesday evening. I’m not even going to give any advice on this – this is the very definition of ‘Dealer’s Choice.’ The phrase ‘Pep Roulette’ springs to mind.

Jesper Daland is my only IK Start asset and I’m happy with that. Bringaker has become a doubt for their next game and other than Eirik Schulze nobody really stands out for any kind of potential returns. They’ll be lucky to keep a clean sheet in either of their games against Mjondalen and Molde and attacking returns seem quite slim, too.

If I avoided the moves I have made I’d be left with Klaesson in goal against Koomson at home and left to choose between Maigaard being passed out of the game at away to Bodo/Glimt or playing Kastrati (who probably won’t even start the next game) for a Kristiansund team who seem to score more when he’s not playing, away to Viking. With Linde and Ohi both potentially playing two games (at least 3 between them) and Sandberg at home to a Stabaek side who will be without Andreas Hanche-Olsen, I’m confident I’ll make up the eight points I’ve spent to bring them in and then some.

Long-term I’m happy to be stuck with these players as if I need to get rid of them, they’re easily replaced due to how much value I have tied up in each of them. Being ‘stuck with’ three Molde players is a situation I’m happy to be in, and while Sandberg may not be the answer to all my problems for the weeks ahead, he’s probably one of the best choices for this week. As he’s easily replaced by players such as Nordlii, and Stabaek trio Hugo Vetlesen, Kornelius Normann Hansen and Oliver Edvardsen, I’m happy to have him for a couple of weeks knowing I have decent replacements (all cheaper) waiting in the wings.

I wouldn’t let the DGW blind you when making your decisions on who to bring in and how to approach the week, rather let it be a part of the decision-making process you adopt. It is very an issue to be dealt with and needs to be respected as such, as well as the gameweeks that follow. I don’t think a triple up is necessary, I’ve only found myself in this position because I’ve had Hussain since gameweek 9. IK Start assets haven’t been attractive options up until now and just because they’re part of a double gameweek doesn’t suddenly transform them into such.

I’m ultimately left with a team that, if by some cruel twist of fate I’d be unable to change for the rest of the season, I’d not be too concerned about. In my experience that’s usually a good thing. My style of play may differ from yours and you may rationalise hits entirely differently to me – that’s fine – but in my head I’ve considered what I need to and I’m willing to die by the same sword I thrust into each gameweek. I’m not always right and I’m happy to admit when I’m wrong, but sometimes you need to take a little bit of a risk in order to win. Unless we’re talking about roulette, in which case just go home. Seriously, it’s not worth it.

 

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  1. The Units
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 month, 17 days ago

    Hustad and James have scored the same points over the past 3 weeks. A grand total of 3 points each!

    1. Eytexi
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 17 days ago

      We seem to be getting early Molde team news on the weekly from Snowman now. A lot of Molde's upcoming fixtures are the first of the gameweek as well. Next time James is benched, he's gone for me.

      1. MTPockets
        1 month, 16 days ago

        Thinking the same. Proven a terrible transfer so far, and my ownership returns have been 3,0,1,1,1
        Regular rotation with Ohi isn't something I want to endure either. Issue is who to replace him with

        1. ReindeerHotdog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          1 month, 16 days ago

          This is my issue. Currently got Ohi but not sure who else I'd want up front.

          I have Fridjonsson and Junker.

          Rest of my squad is basically who I want going forward bar one or two players who I can get even with Ohi. I can get a bench which is full of playing players without having a poor overall team.

          I'll probably just leave Ohi in and on those days we have early Molde news I'll at least know whether to bench him or not or take the risk on a cameo.

          1. MTPockets
            1 month, 15 days ago

            I have Junker and Strand Larsen who was just a short term punt as fixtures now aren't good.
            Really not sure about replacement but will probably go back to 3-5-2. Without James.

  2. ReindeerHotdog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 month, 16 days ago

    Lars Arne Nilsen no longer head coach at Brann.

    Their next game is away to Molde. Not sure whether that's good timing or not. Kind of even happier I have triple Molde going into that game.

    Could make Bamba a more viable asset moving forward.

    1. Hotdogs for Tea
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 16 days ago

      my triple Molde may end up being just the keeper with Hussain one card away from a suspension and James one game away from rotation ... Molde are the Man City of Eliteserien with BG the Liverpool 🙂

      1. ReindeerHotdog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 month, 16 days ago

        Yeah I've made that comparison a few times this season.

        Molde have amazing depth in midfield. They really do.

        Hopefully Hussain gets his next booking when the rest of my players can fill in for his suspension...

        Happy with Ohi in my team. With a couple of transfers I can get the team I want even with him included.

    2. MTPockets
      1 month, 16 days ago

      Maybe as they evidently haven't been a high-scoring team for a while. But Bamba's already one of the most selfish footballers I've seen play, so perhaps he's just not good enough/as good as he thinks he is.

      1. ReindeerHotdog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 month, 16 days ago

        Yeah I get that about Bamba being selfish, but he's looked so frustrated and annoyed this season whereas Koomson for example, the exact opposite.

        Seems like something else is going on but I guess we'll never know.

        I suspect we'll either see more of the same or he might cut a more energetic, enthusiastic figure going forward. The staff around the players are way more important than most think - players need good man management to do well, that's what the modern game is about.

        If things stay as they are I really hope Hustad gets more minutes. Deserves a chance if Bamba is going to carry on this way.

        1. MTPockets
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Maybe. I'm no expert on gauging the man management aspect but Brann's striker should certainly be scoring more, and this isn't a new problem.

          Contrasted with Koomson, who works much harder around the pitch for the team + makes/takes his chances, he comes across more like an annoyed diva than a frustrated team player.

          1. ReindeerHotdog
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            1 month, 15 days ago

            He's clearly frustrated. He can be an annoyed diva too, for sure.

            I don't know too much about him but yeah, he's more than likely a combination of the two.

            Koomson is in a completely different role to Bamba. I think Koomson is a great player and his momentum is definitely helping him along.

  3. ffs casual
    1 month, 16 days ago

    It must be nice being the second highest points scorer in the game and able to captain yourself every game.

    https://en.fantasy.eliteserien.no/entry/23032/history

    1. Andy_Social
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      1 month, 16 days ago

      How cool is that!

    2. Mince n Tatties
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      1 month, 16 days ago

      This is absolutely brilliant!
      What a man!
      O/R 37 - I hope he wins the whole thing!!

    3. Dupuytrens
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 16 days ago

      Nice one. No wonder he wants to stay in the Eliteserien atm 🙂

    4. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 16 days ago

      This is really cool.

      Would be great if Glimt win the league and Hauge wins this. Double champion..

    5. Ramboros
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 16 days ago

      Captaining yourself every week is cool until your performance drops off a cliff and you end up around the 20k mark like Helland.

      https://fantasy.eliteserien.no/entry/15137/history

      Fantasy FK is doing an episode with Hauge that should be released tomorrow morning.

  4. Ramboros
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 16 days ago

    I am playing my WC this week and will be shuffling more money into defence moving forward.

    Makani - Vieira
    Reginiussen - Borchgrevink - Fredriksen - Ulvestad - Daland
    Pellegrino - Zinckernagel - Hauge - Koomson - Normann Hansen
    Junker - Berisha - Fridjonsson

    3.1 ITB

    Gone are Molde's heavy hitters. A Molde striker is more in consideration than Eikrem as I think there's more room to swap premium striker from game to game. Berisha's game against AaFK interests me more than the Molde's game against Brann, especially since it's impossible to get inside information on a Monday game.

    I'm not sure if it's worth having 3 playable forwards, but budget is not an issue without offensive Molde assets. Normann Hansen is good value for his price, but value is not as important when you are dropping the premiums. Velde is perhaps more appealing the next 3 games. That would perhaps give me too little flexibility, even if I ultimately think you should commit to a 3-5-2 this year.

    1. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 16 days ago

      Normann Hansen is a good pick. You can't really go wrong with any of the Stabaek boys really. He's great value for what he offers.

      I like the defence other than Reg. Not sure he'll play all the time and for that money he seems a bit expensive.
      Valsvik would be my choice although Reitan has looked good going forward and as long as Hedenstad is out he plays.
      Other than him I'd probably go with Lund in goal if I wanted RBK defence and then spread the money on another defender.

      I personally wouldn't go with Berisha but that's just me. Not sure that Viking will score that many goals and he doesn't seem like a player with a particularly high ceiling.

      I agree with you about playing 352 rather than 343. I think 343 is best saved for a week you want to go Attack! Attack! - no sense playing that with just 2 forwards obviously.

      I have: Linde/Myhra; Sormo/Risa*/H-Olsen/Borch/Daland; Koomson/Zinck/JPH/Hussain/Sandberg*; Ohi/Junker/Frid

      I'm going to get rid of Risa and Sandberg. Could potentially bring in Solheim for a Stabek double up or go Ulvestad/Desler/Fredriksen (such as yourself) and for my Sandberg replacement I might just shift over to Velde or end up with a Stabaek mid. Castro is definitely on my radar as is Nordlii - we have options in midfielder and even though AAFK are awful, when Castro is in the mood, they score goals.

      Either way that leaves with me money left in the bank even with Ohi in my team. My bench is good enough (especially after I make those moves) to leave Ohi in my team. Until he becomes an issue I have no desire to get rid of him.
      For instance, next GW if Ohi isn't playing then Sandberg will come in from the bench. Moving forward that would be someone like Velde or Edvardsen or Castro. Not a bad back up at all.

      It definitely comes down to how you value your money and not being afraid to back those lower value assets. Think there's something to be said about being swayed by the value of players rather than what they're actually worth.

      Apologies for the lengthy response - I find it interesting to discuss an overall approach to the game. Good to see how people rationalise the same information differently. Cheers!

    2. GertJan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      1 month, 16 days ago

      I'm on a wildcard as well and the front 8 looks almost identical with exception of the 5th mid option. Money in the bank for a potential striker swap in Gameweek 14. I take it you're also interested in doing Berisha to Borven for that Aalesund game? 😉

      1. ReindeerHotdog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 month, 15 days ago

        To be honest I think Zachariassen would be the Rosenborg player you'd want in that game.

        Not sure how much you've watched RBK this season (I've seen majority of their games) but Borven looks so ineffectual in that team it's almost hard to believe.

        1. GertJan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          Yeah, could be a good option too, but I don't have midfield spots available. The likes of Berisha and Borven are players I don't even want long-term. I agree that Viking in general don't have many goals in them. Just as I'm with you on Rosenborg being terrible and their striker not worth the money.

          For me, though, it's all about targeting Aalesund's defence which has conceded an average of 3.2 goals per game. The fact even Strand Larsen got a double digit haul against them says everything, lol.

          1. ReindeerHotdog
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            1 month, 15 days ago

            Yeah I get that Aalesunds are the whipping boys of the league (something I actually said in this article hah) so it's not a bad option targeting them. My main point is that I don't think Borven himself has many goals in him and the goals are more likely to come from other sources. He may pop up with a goal or an assist but I don't see him doing much more than his teammates.

            As for Berisha I think while he might sneak an assist or a goal (possibly both) I don't think Viking will suddenly turn into a goalscoring machine just because they're playing Aalesunds.

            But it's always best going with what you think makes the most sense. We all have our own ideas as to what is the best methodology - best to back yourself rather than someone else.

            I'm trying not to be too influenced by the fixture, rather looking at form, team they play for etc... too. I've already made enough mistakes this season - trying not to be too reactive from here on in!

        2. Dupuytrens
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 15 days ago

          All RBK's forwards have struggled with the service in the last three seasons tbf. Bendtner was just playing for a place in the world cup and when that chance went due to his injury he gave up trying imo, but he was the most skilled of the bunch over that time.
          It would be nice to see how Borven can perform in a more direct attacking RBK side.
          Personally I am keeping him for their good run of fixtures and will take the resulting consequences for better or worse. As an RBK fan I would love him to do well and see some European action.

    3. MTPockets
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Looks decent. Would have said funds seem too spread out, although if you might swap fwds around game-to-game then you need that to cover getting blocked by rotation/injury. Understand the appeal but not so sure about Berisha vs aafk. Viking/his away form not great either (0 goals for Berisha, 4 goals for Viking). Away games haven't been the easiest though to be fair.

    4. Hotdogs for Tea
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      like it, only question is do you settle for Hussain for a fixed 5 in midfield and only use your transfers for the 2nd striker, and rotating the defenders depending on fixtures

    5. Hotdogs for Tea
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Makani - Vieira
      Reginiussen - Borchgrevink - Fredriksen - Ulvestad - Daland

      Of course you could go for Linde, two main defenders and 3 cheapies

      Linde,
      Hanche-Olsen/Reginiussen/Fredriksen - Borchgrevink - Ulvestad - Daland - Betten/Heggheim

    6. Paul Psychic Octopus
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Totally agree with all this. I'm on my WC this week as well. Disposing of your expensive Molde assets is like selling your house in London, downsizing and moving out (not that I would know - I'm still stuck here in my mansion).

      That said, I've still got James in attack. He probably becomes Borven again quote soon, maybe even this GW.

      I've switched back to Lund in goal, and sticking with Vieira. Thought about upgrading him to Mbaye but it's not worth it if you already have a premium goalkeeper asset. May have a problem when Hansen returns, but can address that when it happens.

      The Holy Trinity of Zinck-Hauge-Junker is awesome, but Berg is such great value for PP£m and allows other options elsewhere.

      Currently on:
      Lund, Vieira;
      Hanche-Olsen, Fredriksen, Borchgrevink, Hopmark, Daland;
      Zinck, Berg, Koomson, Pellegrino, Velde;
      Junker, James, Berisha.
      0.8m itb

  5. FPL Bielsa
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 15 days ago

    Looking to bring some Rosenburg defence in and considering Trondsen who I think already has 3 assists this season and seems a certain starter. I don’t see much discussion about him above though ? Is he a decent fantasy pick ?

    1. MTPockets
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Good player but not so popular because he's reverse out of position. Mid playing in defence so doesn't get 4cs points

    2. olebo
      • 7 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Trondsen is categorized as a midfielder and will therefore not get the defender clean sheet points, which makes it less tempting to bring him in. So you would have to look for something else if you want clean sheet points (like Faye Lund and Reginiussen). Personally, I would not bring him in, simply because of this. However, he got his 5th assist this gameweek as a playing defender, and has the third-most points as a midfielder under 5.5 and RBKs upcoming fixtures are good, so he could give some points now, but I think there are better choices. I would rather pay a bit more for a RBK player categorized as a defender.

    3. FPL Bielsa
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Ah yes my mistake, thought he was a defender for some reason !

  6. Sebinhooooo
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 15 days ago

    Hauge confirmed today he is the number one penalty taker now
    Eikrem set to start tommorow, Bjornbak outbfor minimum 3 weeks

    1. MTPockets
      1 month, 15 days ago

      Hauge - is that from the fantasy fk podcast?

    2. Eytexi
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 15 days ago

      A new twitter source for Molde news is nice, the more the merrier. Nice to have something to gun for tomorrow night with Eikrem starting as Molde defence & James returns barely help me as a non-capper.

      Hauge on penalties makes him an outstanding option should Zinck miss any games but not enough to convince me to shift my B/G armbands otherwise.

    3. Ramboros
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 15 days ago

      He didn't exactly say that he will take all future penalties. He gave away the penalty against Rosenborg as Zinkernagel asked to take it. Since then they have let Zinckernagel continue to take penalties. After 2018 they decided to move away from a penalty hierarchy and instead let the momentum decide who takes the penalties. In 2019 Moberg took the first penalty of the season with Layouni still on the pitch. Hauge took their next penalty with Layouni on the pitch, only to reverse it back to Layouni the following game with Hauge still on the pitch. The next penalty Layouni took with Moberg on the pitch. With Layouni gone, Hauge took the last penalty of the season.

      Hauge might be first on penalties, but I don't think he would've taken one against Godset with all the chances he had been missing that match.

  7. Hotdogs for Tea
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Molde to kick-Start the game week for some tonight 🙂

    1. Eytexi
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 14 days ago

      https://twitter.com/ESF_Snowman/status/1290964388548149248?s=19

      James doesn't even make the bench.

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      😆

      Thankfully I didn’t waste any chips on this pathetic DGW

    3. Hotdogs for Tea
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Scenes 🙁

      Luckily I kept my powder dry and chips safe this game week, but was worried by the 2 captains chip on Molde players such as James & Eikrem coming into this game week ... thankfully I dodged a bullet too 🙂

  8. Paul Psychic Octopus
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Becoming very frustrating selecting Forwards in this game. Only 2 have scored more than 52 pts, compared to 11 Midfielders that have.

    Rotating one premium striker based on fixtures is a decent strategy, but even then, who else do you pick?

    I was on Junker, Borven + a cheapie. But every cheapie has got crocked (Ostensen, Lauritsen, Bringaker); am running out of options. Borven needs some form of football Viagra to cure his Rosenberg impotence.

    This week - Junker, Berisha and take your pick.

    1. Hotdogs for Tea
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Third forward to cover no-shows if needed and play 5 mids & Junker ... and just pick whomever plays Aalesund each week as your second forward ?

      1. Paul Psychic Octopus
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 14 days ago

        Pretty much. If I can find even a regular starting forward around the 6m mark. Annoying to tie-up so much money in under-scoring forwards due to lack of decent options. Would really like to upgrade Berg to Hauge, great though Berger BAPs has been.

    2. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Think Junker and Fridjonsson pick themselves. Then it's a case of ultra cheap (Hustad) or taking a punt on someone else like Salvesen, Bamba, Berisha.

      Depends what rest of squad is like. Even with Ohi I'm happy with rest of my team. Suppose it comes down to what back up you have and to temper your expectations.

      Lauritsen injury was the most annoying point of the season in real world terms as well as fantasy.

  9. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Ohi pen G, Kitolano A

  10. ReindeerHotdog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Ohi converts a penalty given for handball.

    The referee and his officials then go on to not award Molde a second penalty in a near-identical situation as well as also failing to give Start a penalty for handball.

    As a new Linde owner I feel like I'm in a spider's web. The defence is atrocious but that's because half of it is currently made up of midfielders and they're playing with attacking fullbacks.

    We talk about Aalesunds being a good team to have a striker play against, I feel similarly about Molde. Start probably should've scored at least if not twice - Molde are fortunate to be going in 1 nil at the break.

  11. Paul Psychic Octopus
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    So James is missing from the squad tonight because of illness.

    Not as sick as those of us who captained him for the DGW. Some even double captained I hear.

    1. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 14 days ago

      It happens.

      It's like with Sane a couple of seasons ago (I think?) and Mane.

      The whole TC and captaincy in general aspect of the game is so heavily reliant on luck I find it hard to get too annoyed over. It's like playing roulette, but you've got an extra few colours to play with.

  12. Eytexi
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Ohi brace from 2 pens. Jammy captainers enjoy.

    1. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 14 days ago

      I like jam.

  13. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Ohi pen G, Hestad A

  14. Eytexi
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Eikrem assist, lovely stuff. Turns out Brynhildsen was the Molde asset to own.

  15. Hotdogs for Tea
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    James over Ohi ... oops

  16. ReindeerHotdog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Brynhildsen G Eikrem A.

    Jammy Eikrem owners.

    1. Eytexi
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 14 days ago

      I like jam.

      1. ReindeerHotdog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 month, 14 days ago

        Ah. Seems we have something in common.

        Jam on scones and marmalade on toast though.

  17. Hotdogs for Tea
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Come on Hussain you lumux

    1. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 14 days ago

      I think we've been very fortunate as Hussain owners to this point.

      Depending on how he plays over the next few games may see a lot of us jump on Brynhildsen or Velde.

      We have options at least. Hopefully he's not done yet but I can definitely say we've benefitted more than we probably should've from owning him.

  18. Ramboros
    • 9 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Dalan puts the ball into his own net, but the ball was already going in. Should be Brynhildsen goal, no assist.

    1. Eytexi
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 14 days ago

      No idea how that's been given as an OG.

      1. Ramboros
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 14 days ago

        I think people instinctually think it's an OG if the defender make the ball roll quicker into goal.

        1. Eytexi
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 14 days ago

          Changed now.

      2. Ramboros
        • 9 Years
        1 month, 14 days ago

        It's changed to Brynhildsen goal now.

    2. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 14 days ago

      I was horribly confused with that. Glad it's changed. It's as if that English commentator was allowed to determine whether or not it was an own goal.

  19. Eytexi
    • 1 Year
    1 month, 14 days ago

    *awaits salty RH comment re. Eikrem g* 😉

    1. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Nah. The guys the best player in the league.

      He makes everything look effortless.

      I am a fan. He's a great sub to bring on. But yeah. A bit jammy.

  20. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Why the f did I sell Eikrem

    1. Eytexi
      • 1 Year
      1 month, 14 days ago

      I sold him last night but thankfully still get these points as a parting gift. Hopefully that's him done for the season.

    2. MTPockets
      1 month, 14 days ago

      More like why the f did I buy Hestad

  21. ReindeerHotdog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    1 month, 14 days ago

    I had Brynhildsen at the very start of the season. Think he's a quality player. If he can nail down a place in this Molde XI he becomes a real asset.

    One to watch, certainly.

    I did rationalise I'd avoid Eikrem as thought he'd play a bit less - I've been lucky with that as it's impossible to predict injuries as they've come about. But ever since being on the pitch he's made a huge difference. A quality player - an incredible sub to have.

    Hestad has looked really good today but I feel like he'll either be trapped in the Modric-Bohinen void in most games or at best get an assist or two. They being a player who only gets assists means you don't really score that many points.

    Haugen is on the pitch how long and gets an assist? If he starts every week he's in my team. Problem is, he won't. Linde without a doubt best defensive option right now.

    Ohi over James this week a bit jammy but sometimes gotta go hunting for jam if you want the marmalade. Whatever that means.

  22. Hotdogs for Tea
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Linde bap ?

    1. Ramboros
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Right now I think Hestad, Aursnes and Wingo will get them. You never know though. Ohi scored 2 penalties so obviously he should get 3.

  23. TallestJohn
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Rich Uncle was the right move, just picked the wrong players. Linde, Thomassen, Hestad and Hauge the successes. Kept Pellegrino and Normann Hansen which was tempting fate a bit. Biggest error was James (K) over Zinckernagel.

    That combined with Strand Larsen first on the bench means only 1pt actually gained from if I'd rolled with my 11 available players, captained Zinck and got a jammy Ulvestad goal.

  24. Sebinhooooo
    • 3 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Thoughts On Pereira for Viking, is he just a one game wonder, or has he actually looked good recently getting forward in attacks?

    1. TallestJohn
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Bit of a one game wonder but it was a bit similar last season. Don't know why I remember this but I think he got a goal, assist and clean sheet when they beat Vålerenga 4-0, so that's 15+ of the 80pts he got. You really do have to have faith in his attacking ability when Heggheim is 4.1m.

      Nothing wrong with targeting Aalesund though, I've just got Bytyqi in for this weekend.

  25. KneejerkJoe
    • 6 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    Toughts on RBK with their fixtures?
    S08 (H)
    AAFK (H)
    MJO (A)
    STB (H)

    I did not think I would consider Borven for a while, but with this fixtures, and my transfer has to be James out anyways.

    James->
    A) Borven
    B) Salvesen
    C) Berisha

    1. The Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Such slim pickings up front. At least Borven gets on the pitch.

    2. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Zachariassen has a far higher ceiling than Borven in that RBK team.

      If you watch Rosenborg play, you'll see what I mean.

      Good reason to believe James starts next game - seems to be alternating with Ohi (if he's recovered from his illness). I'd wait a bit before swapping him out.

      I think Junker and Fridjonsson are the two to have up front then it's down to what the rest of your team looks like and who you're happy to go with.

    3. Hotdogs for Tea
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      1 month, 13 days ago

      next 3 transfers ...
      James to Berisha
      Berisha to Borven
      Borven to Wadji

      plus a bit for any mid that gets suspended to bring in a midfielder against Aalesund 🙂

      1. The Units
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        1 month, 13 days ago

        I like that plan.

  26. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    They're going to give Daland OG...

    1. Sebinhooooo
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      How do you know?

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 14 days ago

        Official source gave it OG

        https://www.fotball.no/fotballdata/kamp/?fiksId=7623208

        1. Eytexi
          • 1 Year
          1 month, 14 days ago

          Surely it's down to Opta?

          1. Team Cruel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 14 days ago

            Opta tend to favour the official source when it comes to goals/OGs. They make their own assessments when it comes to all those weird fantasy assists that aren't official assists

  27. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    1 month, 14 days ago

    3 Hestad, 2 Ohi, 1 Eikrem

    1. Sebinhooooo
      • 3 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      Confirmed?

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 14 days ago

        Yes. Will be added after they've clarified the Daland situation

        1. Sebinhooooo
          • 3 Years
          1 month, 14 days ago

          Where did you see this? Can’t find it anywhere

          1. Team Cruel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 14 days ago

            First never follows 😎

          2. Team Cruel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 14 days ago

            Here you go, man in the stand confirms it himself: https://twitter.com/PetterBT/status/1291133427329138696

            1. ReindeerHotdog
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              1 month, 14 days ago

              Think it's fair. Last bonus point was definitely between Eikrem and Brynhildsen.

              Agree with Hestad and Ohi with 3 and 2 for sure.

    2. Ramboros
      • 9 Years
      1 month, 14 days ago

      If only Zinckernagel would get bonus points as easily as Ohi.

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 14 days ago

        Zinck needs to turn up to games wearing a Berg mask if he wants regular baps

    3. ReindeerHotdog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      1 month, 14 days ago

      After watching the game I was thinking 3 Hestad, 2 Ohi and 1 Brynhildsen.

      I suppose that last BFP was gonna be between Brynhildsen and Eikrem. Fair enough either way really.

      Hestad definitely seemed a bit more influential on the games outcome than Ohi even though he scored two pens.

      Really frustrating if Daland is accredited with an own goal, though.It was going in. He just touched it and slid in with it. How that's an own goal I'll never know.

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        1 month, 14 days ago

        Yeah annoying if they change it. Firstly it's not an OG imo (for the reasons you mention). Secondly it was an underwhelming dgw and the points were already scarce, don't need further deductions.

        The OG rule needs to be looked at (not just in Eliteserien but football as a whole). All 50/50 calls should favour the attacker. Defenders don't want to be accredited OGs. Attackers don't want to be denied goals. No one wins in these situations. Unless you're 100 % sure that the ball wasn't goal bounds before the interference then give the benefit to the attacker.

        1. ReindeerHotdog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          1 month, 14 days ago

          I don't understand how anyone with half an analytical brain can look at that and infer an own goal.

          The ball was going in. Daland could have prevented it but was unfortunate not to be able to. If he wasn't there - the ball goes in. Especially as there was no other defender/player near enough to interfere with the ball. There was no other eventuality than a goal - Daland 'helping it in' didn't change that.

          An own goal should only be given if the shot wasn't going in without the intervention or if the shot was on target to begin with, but the intervention has drastically altered the course of the trajectory, thus making it impossible to know whether it would've gone in or not. (Think of a shot on target but in and around the area of the goalkeeper being deflected to the other side of the goal - that's surely an own goal).

          This is so cut and dry it needs so little deliberation. I'm not even saying that from a Fantasy point of view - that's never, ever an own goal.

          I'm not sure who would benefit for given that as an own goal, like you say. That's not the point I suppose, but still, I don't see the need (I think that's a better word) for giving this as an own goal.

          1. Team Cruel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 14 days ago

            https://streamable.com/yfpxs3

            Both fotball.no and livescore have it as OG. I'm really struggling to see why...

            1. ReindeerHotdog
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              1 month, 14 days ago

              I watched the 347 replies we were shown on Eurosport and I still really cannot fathom how someone - who you have to infer likes/enjoys/watches/analyses/understands football and its rules - has thought that is an own goal and then had multiple other people agree with them.

              Bizarre.

            2. MTPockets
              1 month, 13 days ago

              fotball.no now have it as Brynildsen G

        2. Paul Psychic Octopus
          • 9 Years
          1 month, 13 days ago

          I think it was clearly an OG, even though I haven't even seen the goal, for the simple reason that I don't have Daland.

  28. The Units
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    1 month, 13 days ago

    Taking their time updating the points.

    1. MTPockets
      1 month, 13 days ago

      They're waiting for Opta's decision on the 4th goal
      https://twitter.com/OffisiellESF/status/1291270310549913600

      1. ReindeerHotdog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        1 month, 13 days ago

        Amazed there's any deliberation needed from Opta.

        Weird.

        1. MTPockets
          1 month, 13 days ago

          I don't think leagues like Eliteserien are a high priority for Opta (regular sofascore data mistakes).
          Hopefully they'll look again and apply common sense.

          1. The Units
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            1 month, 13 days ago

            Yeah could be as they should have sorted by now.

          2. Team Cruel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            1 month, 13 days ago

            Yup. Opta seemingly couldn't care less. Which is weird because when they are the official stats provider of a league followed by hundreds of thousands you'd expect them to follow up and at the very least get the basics right.

            Same with the game developers (ISM). As soon as the FPL season starts they'll turn off the Eliteserien live rank/league updates because the traffic on their servers is too much. Happened every season so far. Combine that with Opta's negligence and we have no clue about our ranks until halfway through the next day. 15 hours since the game ended and still no final decision. People lose interest in the game when so much time passes without bonus and autosubs added.

            1. MTPockets
              1 month, 13 days ago

              I expected Opta/ISM to improve over time, but as you say that's not happening. Still think there will have to be improvements if fantasy keeps growing. If only because more money bet on it means more pressure to get it right. The alternative is all attention focused on a few leagues like fpl and the others die out, but I hope not.

  29. MTPockets
    1 month, 13 days ago

    Sormo's still flagged after coming on in the last game.
    Did he pick up a new injury?