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Creative Ziyech can improve Chelsea attack and offer FPL value in 2020/21

Chelsea’s new signing Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) has the potential to be the most exciting Fantasy Premier League asset at Stamford Bridge this season.

The Moroccan Wizard arrives in London tasked with transforming the creative potential of Frank Lampard’s attack, offering excellent delivery from set-plays and frequent long-distance shots.

The fact that he has been priced cheaper than Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Timo Werner (£9.5m) could make Ziyech the key man for investment if he has the desired effect on Chelsea’s front-three.

The History and Statistics

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKeypasses/g
2013/14282467994.33.1
2014/1533289613163.62.7
2015/1633295317104.92.8
2016/172827649125.63.6
2017/183430439154.94.2
2018/1929241316135.33.7
2019/202116196124.23.7







Average29.43259411.312.434.693.4

Born in the Netherlands, Ziyech started his youth career at the Reaal Dronten and ASV Dronten academies before joining Heerenveen in 2007.

An Eredivisie debut came in 2012/13, before a first full campaign in 2013/14, in which he netted nine times over 28 league appearances.

Ziyech was picked up by Twente the following year for just €3.5m and went on to notch 13 goals and 16 assists in the 2014/15 campaign. A sign of things to come as he managed 17 goals and 10 assists in 2015/16.

Those impressive seasons earned Ziyech an €11m move to Ajax in August 2016. Interestingly, switching to the Dutch giants saw Ziyech’s goal output dip in his first season, with eight fewer (nine) strikes, despite shooting more often (5.6 shots per game vs 4.9).

It was this move that brought out the best in the Moroccan’s key attributes though: creativity. As you can see from the table above, every season he spent at Ajax boasted a better key passes per game statistic than any campaign at any previous club.

It was 2018/19 when Ziyech was thrust onto the global stage as he scored 16 goals and assisted a further 13 in 29 Eredivisie appearances as well as registering six attacking returns in 11 Champions League outings.

It was his European exploits that started to turn the heads of the continent’s biggest clubs, finishing the 2019/20 Champions League groups stages with more assists than any other player (four).

Unsurprisingly, Ziyech left Ajax for Chelsea having featured in the Eredivisie team of the year three times, stringing together consecutive appearances in 2017/18, 2018/19 and 2019/20. Eligible to play for either Netherlands or Morocco, he chose the latter, currently boasting 14 goals over 32 international matches. 

Comparison

The general consensus on new signings from foreign leagues is to wait for them to settle in before investing from a FPL standpoint. However, there have been players in the past like Mohamed Salah (£12.0m), Bruno Fernandes (£10.5m) and Hazard who hit the ground running from day one. Is Ziyech capable of emulating these Fantasy greats? Let’s take a look…

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKeypasses/g
2015/16 (ROMA)3227391462.11.9
2016/1729248715112.62.3
2017/18 (LIV)342922321041.7
2018/193732622283.61.8
2019/2033288819103.91.8







Average332859.620.493.241.9

Prior to joining Liverpool, Salah managed 20 and 31 goal involvements with Roma. He averaged 2.4 shots/game and 2.1 key passes/game. Ziyech managed 24 and 29 goal involvements across his last two full seasons (2017/18 and 2018/19) and averaged 4.8 shots/game along with 3.9 key passes/game. 

The Egyptian upped his average shots/game to 3.83 per game with Liverpool and has been the player with the largest shot volume over the past three seasons. To give you an idea of how much Ziyech shoots, it is almost 30% more than Salah, although largely from outside the box. 

The Moroccan’s creative numbers are staggering too. To put it in perspective, Kevin De Bruyne (£11.5m), the Premier League’s most creative player in 2019/20, averaged 3.9 key passes per game. The Belgian has averaged 3.2 key passes/game for his last three full seasons (2018/19 not considered due to injury). 

Ziyech averaged 3.86 key passes/game for Ajax over the past three seasons. That’s about 20% more than De Bruyne. While a move to a harder league could see a drop-off in his numbers, a 20% margin certainly looks big enough to ensure Ziyech can still impress in England, especially considering how well he has performed in the Premier League.

2019-20Mins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per shot on targetMins per key pass
Tammy Abraham25.228.163.5105.8
Olivier Giroud25.629.452.6124.9
Mason Mount36.879.899.056.3
Christian Pulisic27.432.669.057.5
Timo Werner *22.828.443.953
Hakim Ziyech **18.255.852.220.8

As mentioned earlier, the Moroccan loves taking a shot. The majority of these efforts were from outside the box but it still makes him exciting and engaging to own from a FPL standpoint. As you can see, none of Chelsea’s 2020/21 key attackers unleashed a shot on goal as frequently as Ziyech last season, even Werner.

In terms of creativity, he is head and shoulders above any of his new team-mates, which bodes very well indeed. The frequency of his key passes should not only make Ziyech a potentially viable asset, it enhances the appeal of Pulisic and Werner, who are sure to fancy getting at the end of his signature crosses to the far post. 

The Prospects

Unlocking deep blocks was a problem for Chelsea last season, one that Ziyech can help solve. 82 assists in 165 matches in all competitions at Ajax, and an average of over 3.5 key passes per game for them, is nothing to be scoffed at, whatever your opinions might be about the competitiveness of the Dutch league. 

Lampard’s men were arguably too dependent on Willian for creativity in 2019/20. Mostly operating down the right flank, with very little creativity elsewhere in the team, the Brazilian’s work tended to define Chelsea’s attacking prospects. When he struggled, the team just could not break opponents down.

Furthermore, Chelsea fans voiced major complaints about Willian’s poor delivery from corners and free-kicks last season, which Ziyech is likely to take over (with the exception of penalties). The Moroccan is well-known as being one of the best strikers of a dead ball in Europe, so his presence is sure to improve Chelsea’s attacking prospects across the board.

With the Willian and Pedro departing, Ziyech looks locked in to fill the right-wing role, adding some fresh impetus to creativity from that side. His only real competition for a start in the front-three is Callum Hudson-Odoi (£6.0m), while Pulisic looks to have the left-hand side nailed down.

Encouragingly, Ziyech can also operate quite effectively as a number 10. That’s good news for Lampard who will arguably have more tactical options in terms of shape with Ziyech in the team – but also for the player himself. If he is struggling out wide in some games, he could find space to be effective by drifting into central pockets.

Another factor to consider with new players is how injury prone they are, how many games they have missed over the past few campaigns and whether these have been major injuries like an ACL or meniscus tear. Ziyech has played an average of 29 league games for the past seven seasons as well as featuring regularly in Europe which goes a long way to allaying any fitness fears.

Meanwhile, the fact he is 27 years of age means the players is more mature and developed than the rest of Chelsea’s young squad. The naivety of Lampard’s men was often cited as a reason for some disappointing results last season, so Ziyech is likely to be a key leader on the pitch in 2020/21.

There are some caveats though. Ziyech was allowed a huge amount of freedom to express himself with Ajax, often taking wasteful shots from range. As shared in the earlier table, even though he took a shot every 18.2 minutes, he only tested the keeper every 52.8 minutes. That roughly means only one of his three efforts was a shot on target, so while he might be an exciting player to own, prepare for some frustration. 

There is also of course the argument to be made about the Premier League being a much more daunting prospect than the Eredivisie but his performances against top sides in Europe do indicate this is a player of global pedigree. Many feared the same for Fernandes last year, but we all know how that turned out. 

Boasting an exciting mix of goal threat and creativity for a cheaper price than Pulisic and Werner, Ziyech is likely going to feature in my side for Gameweek 1.

1,932 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Z
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Zyech or Werner??

    1. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ziyech the target man is better option

      Points will be spread across in mid for likes of Pulisic Ziyech mount and possibly havertz

      1. HurriKane
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        *Werner the target man

      2. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        CFC have 4 players in front and so many creative midfilders. There is a huge rish of rotation....i think that i ll dodge them at start

      3. Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Lampard doesn't play with target men. More of a fluid front 3/4, like City

        Target men are rare in top 6 these days, but you might have that with Kane...

    2. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ziyech. More routes to points (see Sterling vs KDB). More goal points due to position. Only viable 8.0m mid who might actually outscore TAA and Robbo

      Getting both could work, though

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What about Mount? He needs minutes

        1. Ze_Austin
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Same can be said about Tammy

          1. Z
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            So i ll dodge them at the start

            1. Ze_Austin
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              That works

      2. Teror
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think he's much riskier though. Holland is a weaker league. And it's not like any super clubs were in for him. Bayern wanted Werner. Obviously this is all guess work but I definitely feel much more comfortable with Werner

        1. Ze_Austin
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Ziyech did better against top teams than bottom, with the most assists in UCL. Heck, I'll just refer you to the article we're commenting on right now

          1. Ze_Austin
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Also, not many big clubs fought over Salah, Mane, Bruno, KDB, Robbo, Laporte, VVD, Kane, Mahrez, Vardy... Transfer market activity is based on many more factors than just how good a player is, so it's not exactly the best measurement

    3. Teror
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm keen on starting with both but if I were to pick one it would be Werner

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Rizicno je brate....4 napadaca- Ziru kida, a Abraham mora da igra + mnogo kreativnih veznjaka

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          "It's risky brother .... 4 attackers- Ziru tears, and Abraham has to play + a lot of creative midfielders"

          1. Z
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            hahahahahah...yes

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              English is much easier to read.

              1. Z
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                He has serbian avatar...but its true

    4. Budgies
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Will Werner impact on Abraham’s game time?

      1. TheBrazilianRonaldo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Definitely. He’s the new big signing. Abraham to be sub surely in most games and Lampard will be looking to compete in 4 competitions

      2. FPL Pillars
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Werner is just cover behind Tammy and Giroud

  2. Barnabus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    First crack at a team, thoughts?

    Ryan
    TAA Saiss Pieters Taylor
    KDB Salah Auba Rashford
    Mitro Bamf

    Nyland Soucek Davis Ferguson

    1. Teror
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Apparently bamf is dogshite. Certainly was last time he was in the prem.

      1. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Perfectly summed up here haha

        1. Barnabus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah i'm considering downgrading a Burnley defender to Branthwaite in order to upgrade Bamf to Antonio

  3. FPL Bargain
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is Luke Shaw really out long term?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yes but surely they sign a replacement

      1. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        They’ve got to really, Chilwell?

      2. The Senate
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Woodward to pay up? No way, he'll spend another six weeks faffing on Sancho, pay what Dortmund want, and say there's no budget left - whilst it's well known that the club turns over massive profits and the owners simply do not invest their own cash.

  4. Teror
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Do we think Ramsdale will be 4.5 or 5?

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      5

      1. Teror
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        This makes me sad

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          McCarthy could be lovely though

          1. Teror
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            If Ramsdale is 5 then there is no question: I will start with McCarty

          2. Ze_Austin
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Ryan

            Not sexy, but works if you ACTUALLY set-and-forget him

            1. The Ejiptian King
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Can't wait for all the "I hate Ryan" posts, probably including me. At least they'll have Ben White who seems to be the second coming of Maldini.

              1. Teror
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                I hate Ryan

              2. Ze_Austin
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                We hate Ryan

              3. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Hate Ryan

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      5

  5. TheBrazilianRonaldo
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Not sure Auba is the pick people are saying. Value wins and for 12 mill he will get 230 points. That’s great but you expect a player of 12 mill to get 230.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Really depends if you captain for the big hauls.

      1. TheBrazilianRonaldo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        For me it’s a wait and see if Arsenal are going to create more chances in new season. Yep at 12 mill need to be capping and hauling often

      2. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Any tips on how to do this?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Flat track bully, normally at home. Can also fail easily when Arsenal run out of ideas.

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Makes perfect sense to me - there's a prevailing mentality that Auba is a troll vs the weaker sides which I cannot understand at all. No worse than any other premium asset.

      3. Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Owning Auba only works out well if you permacap him

        His hauls are frustratingly difficult to catch... And he doesn't get the glut of assists that keep other premium mids from BLANKING as often

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      expectations met

      1. TheBrazilianRonaldo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        So meh, or yeah? I think he’s only still in on good runs

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          If he's on the left, no thanks. If Lacazette moves on, then I'm interested.

          1. TheBrazilianRonaldo
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Thanks good point

    3. Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      20+ goals and about 5 ass....that's not bad for mid hahaha

    4. Teror
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm worried about his age. Could be about to drop off a Sanchez-esque cliff edge any second

      1. TheBrazilianRonaldo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yep, vardy though. He’s 33 looks like 40 and bang in them in

  6. RubberDucky
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Anybody have a particular issue they would like an article on?

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        willy reduction

      2. TheBrazilianRonaldo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        How much better members do than non members who just use stats websites like understat, whoscored etc, so quantifying the average points leap for gaining paid access

        1. The Senate
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          this AF

        2. jungle
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Meh. Not everyone pays for these reasons. I am rubbish at FPL but pay because i want to contribute to the outstanding service this site provides by way of the comments. I rarely read the paid articles fully - i hate loads of stats etc. I pay because i think £15 or so a fair contribution towards the costs of running this site.

          1. TheBrazilianRonaldo
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Ok you’ve sold me. I’ll finally sign up. Had convinced myself paying is cheating (daft I know) but I like the forums and someone has to manage that and servers cost. No doubt the analysis will save me times but I enjoy by back of the envelope pre season workings

      3. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Who replaces David Silva?

        1. TheBrazilianRonaldo
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          And does kdb do better or worse For points when David silva is playing?

          1. TheBrazilianRonaldo
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            ‘Was playing’ of course.

      4. Jealous Viper
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Something to help get the captaincy right. Was dreadful last year

    • Slitherene
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      What about this differential 11?

      Ryan
      AWB Ake Justin Vinagre
      Rash Auba Ziyech Jota
      Aguero Vardy
      Button Bamford Soucek Taylor

      1. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        No salah or a city mid?

        1. Teror
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          No Trent either... dios mio...

      2. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        no no no

      3. Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Is jota even nailed?

    • EL_FENOMENO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      a) Wood + Bruno
      b) Martial + Ziyech
      c) Werner + Greenwood

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I like C.

      2. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        B just but I do prefer Werner over martial just depending on fixtures being announced hopefully tomorrow

      3. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not B

      4. Blue&White85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        C

    • Drafting Away
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Hey guys for a draft game so ignore fixtures, in what order would you pick these players for most points by end of season
      A. Salah
      B. Auba
      C. De Bruyne

      All great first picks but what order would you go?

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I got them all hahah

        1. Drafting Away
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Haha yeah I would too but it’s a draft game I MAY only get one if I’m lucky

          1. Z
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            W/O fixtures....Auba. But we need to wait

        2. The Pesci challenge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Same but I think maybe in that order (abc)

      2. Drafting Away
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeh agreed, Auba as a kid is huge but Salah takes most shots every year and it’s not even close haha

        1. Drafting Away
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Mid* not kid

      3. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        ABC

      4. Whiskerz
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        A. C. B

      5. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        A, C then B. I’m not buying the Auba midfielder hype. He’s statistically the weakest big hitter in many areas. I’d rather have Rashford as a newly transitioned midfielder.

        1. Goonsquad245
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I think being a midfielder improves his appeal a lot, but only as much as his increase in price.

          Value remains the same as last season for me.

      6. I Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        CAB

    • FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Werner's record as a player, you can't tell me that at 24, he ain't going to get better. Wait for Havertz with his deadly passes to find this guy most of the time. Werner's conversion rate is also deadly.

      https://www.transfermarkt.co.za/timo-werner/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/170527

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        No questions he’s an unbelievable pick even from the start. Very complete striker and hopefully has pens

      2. TheBrazilianRonaldo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Shush we know. Hoping he’s not in entry team!Surely he’s the stand out value pick of new season

      3. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Totally agree but I know what will happen Werner won’t score in gw1 and everyone will go told you so, take him out and then he will score points in virtually every game he plays. I’ve got him and I will be patient with him (a run of 6-8 games)

      4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        His last 3 seasons were more Danny Ings/Raul Jiminez level

        Big jump in output this year though for sure - interesting to see does it survive the transition

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Only thing bothering me is he has an ear condition. Too much loud noise and he starts clutching at his ears.

          But at 9.5 I am willing to roll with it.

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Nagelsman seemed to suggest he might struggle vs packed defences:

            https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2020/8/15/21369881/should-we-be-concerned-about-timo-werner-and-packed-opposition-defenses

            Watched this clip briefly of all of his 28 goals this season - he reminds me a lot of Pulisic in the pacy direct running style - don’t really know what to make of him - lots of unknowns but looks pretty pacy & direct for sure - I could see him & Pulisic giving defenders nightmares - but would they need a big physical presence a la Giroud for them to play off properly? Werner does look pretty strong too in fairness to him

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bRPncvNfgY

            But definitely might take a punt on him at 9.5 for the lolz . Maybe...

              1. Ze_Austin
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                This makes me want Ziyech and Pulisic even more

          2. Klaren
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I don’t know if it happens often but I remember him getting subbed out in the first 30 min in a CL match because the stadium was too loud.

        2. Ze_Austin
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Thank you! My point made

          And the goals came for a team with an unbelievable attack last season, one that can blow any team away. Chelsea has the potential to become that, but it's still potential... And their defence/midfield problems will affect their ability to control the game enough to have a 28-goal striker

          Expecting around 20 goals and 10 assists, which is still good... But not the Kane/Henry-esque expectation I see flying around

        3. The Ejiptian King
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Interesting if it was personal progression by him or Nagelsmann's system, RBL seem to create a lot of chances.

      5. Karan14
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If United have better fixtures Martial for 0.5m less might be a better option.

    • Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I rpomised myself that Bruno would be the 1st player in my team this season but tempted to go without him again. Which would you go with?

      A) Martial & Greenwood
      B) Bruno & 6.0 striker

    • Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone worth going for alongside Werner and Antonio upfront?

      Don't know what they're thinking making Rashford and Aubameyang midfielders. I'd have preferred Mane and Salah being made strikers.

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Mitrovic

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Is he still half decent? 6m in midfield better spent and fodder up top?

      2. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Martial.

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          yeah perhaps. Rashford and Greenwood getting an extra point per goal + CS, is a little more enticing though.

      3. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think people need to chill out with Antonio. Not sure why no one is expecting the old Antonio, who’s second touch was always a tackle, to return now we aren’t fighting for survival.
        Werner is great value

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I think price is driving it, mate. That and his strong finish to the season. I'll go with Haller if he's ready to start the season.

          I can see Werner doing well. Have been impressed every time I saw him last season and his style of play should translate to the Prem.

          1. Ask Yourself
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Haller could be in for a big season, could be this year’s Jiménez. Hope we get to see some pre season from him

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Injury record worries me but at least he's a straight swap to Antonio.

              Just trying to work out if Ings or Jimenez are worth 2m more...

            2. SweepaKeepa
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Interesting... thanks... certainly started last season well!

        2. Ze_Austin
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          This might be a scenario where Moyes's lack of tactics actually helps FPL. Their starting XI finished the season strongly, so he'll stick to it and start this season strongly...

          ...then drop off after 8 games, at which point one of the other 6.5M strikers would have emerged, or a 4.5 to 6.0m attacking defender for an easy swap

      4. TheBrazilianRonaldo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        On Mitro depending on run. He’s in now as third

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          cheers fella

      5. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Lots of very decent 6-6.5 options

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          "lots"?

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            OK - a couple 😀

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              😀

    • KDB > Henderson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Going with no City gives me a hell of a team, what do you guys think to this 451

      Martinez
      Trent Vinaigre Pieters Williams (Utd)
      Auba Salah Bruno ASM Ziyech
      Werner

      Bench: Ferguson, Wickham, Davis

      1. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Don't like ASM, Ziyech, Williams, or Martinez (although I guess you can just switch him to another 4.5)

        Aside from that great!

      2. CroatianHammer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        decent at a glance...

      3. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not bad but needs a city mid

      4. The Senate
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        KDB will regularly outscore Auba and costs less

        1. The Senate
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Same story with Werner:
          Martial and Jimenez better options for less £

    • Bielsa's Bucket
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      So, how much are you currently putting into your front 3 at moment?

      I am £18.5 - going down the cheap route this year.

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        17M....this year is all abot midfilders

      2. SHOOTER MCGINN
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        23M-24.5M. Still think there's value up top and don't want to overload on big hitting midfielders.

    • Laalman
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thoughts on first draft? Looking to play 4-4-2/ 3-5-2

      Ryan Button

      TAA Vinagre KWP Saliba 4.0

      Salah KDB Rashford Ziyech Armstrong

      Martial Antonio 4.5

    • Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Some advices for 5M mid?

      1. CroatianHammer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Soucek should be your only thought in that bracket. Grady is 5.5 and while the kid is rated I can't imagine Moyes gives him much time...

        1. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Moyes has only ever been anti Grady

      2. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Soucek or Ritchie with pens unless they sign a replacement

        1. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Ritchie could be a nice choice

    • KDB > Henderson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Thoughts on above team?

      Community thoughts much appreciated

      Cheers

      1. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        You cant make team wo fixtures bro....wiat for a week. Everything could change

    • Jasefayce
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Gents, feedback on this!

      R.James, TAA, Gomez
      Auba, Son, Ziyech, Greenwood, Foden
      Werner, Martial

      Ferguson, Braithwaite, K. Davies

      1. Jasefayce
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Nyland 4.0 in goal

      2. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Strong team throughout - you're captaining Auba most of the time?

        1. Jasefayce
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Certainly Auba (c) would be the safe bet unless anyone comes flying out of the gates.

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Certainly not terrible, but I would much much rather have Salah at the same price.

            1. Jasefayce
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Hoping double LIV defence will plug that gap! Easy switch if it doesn’t work out though.

    • FPL Blow-In
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If Pulisic is declared fit then surely he is the pick of the Chelsea lads to begin with? Already proven he can score big hauls.

      1. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Probably yes initially but I’m confident that Werner does it as Ziyech and pulisic are there to provide Werner to score

      2. Jasefayce
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I’ll definitely be looking to upgrade Ziyech to Pulisic as soon as he’s fit.

      3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Nailed into my team if he’s fit

        Incredible value there (when he’s fit)

      4. Klaren
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Didn’t he score only one big haul last season?

        He is terrible with bps so needs a goal and an assist to get to double digits.

    • KDB > Henderson
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Agreed Pulisic the safer bet but Ziyech could be explosive also, I’m def having Werner from start

    • Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Respect to both Manchester clubs for not wanting to use their wildcards early.

    • FC Hakkebøf
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Is Maddison overlooked at 7.5?

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        7.0

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Absolutely

        Not

    • The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Zophar, you are a Chelsea fan, so aren't you a little bit biased about Ziyech's progress?

      1. The Polymath
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Sorry I meant prospects, not progress.

      2. HollywoodXI
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think Ziyech will be a steal at 8m

        1. The Pesci challenge
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          It’s a better pick than Willian

        2. Z
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          What about Mount or even Havertz? Too many players that must rotate

      3. Nanoelektronicar
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I also had feeling the article is biased, but 8.0 for a player with certain allroundability to score points in Chelsea team looks promising for sure.

    • huwwilliams_
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      First draft, thoughts?

      McCarthy
      TAA Saliba Vinagre
      Salah KDB Bruno Foden Gucci
      Richarlison Jimenez

      Steer Douglas Ferguson Davis

      1. FC Hakkebøf
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not a fan of rich.. Unsure about Fodens gametime.. Definetely a risk with that bench

        1. huwwilliams_
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah might have to re think foden, might be one for later stage in the season when the bench'll be abit stronger. Everton must improve next season and he's key to almost everything good they produce

      2. The Pesci challenge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        No Aubameyang will hurt. Richarlison is a no at the moment, foden is wait and see. It depends on fixtures

        1. huwwilliams_
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Who out of Bruno Salah and KDB do you sacrifice for Auba?

          1. Z
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Bruno....but we gonna need to wait fixtures

    • have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Need fixtures!! Just going in hypothetical circles here

      1. Ask Yourself
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Hopefully tomorrow now we know everyone will be safe to play GW1 x

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          fingers crossed 🙂

    • Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Is there any Palas fans?

      Is there any hope for Meyer this year?

      1. Forever In Our Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not a fan but I see them doing nothing special. MI’d table obscurity. Meyer will be just that, mediocre.

      2. Ghost Ship
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Sadly, Hodgson is not the manager to develop any attacking player.

        1. Ghost Ship
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          But I still love him.

    • Jay Jay Okocha
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      What's the latest on Matip's injury?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Doing individual training with Henderson, not in full team training yet unless I'm mistaken. Via LFCTV videos.

        1. The Ejiptian King
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Reckon you'll sign a 4th choice CB to replace Matip or just go with Hoever or van den Berg?

          1. The Ejiptian King
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Replace Lovren, sorry.

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Unless we sell, we won't sign. So depends if we can get players off our books otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if Fabinho is 4th CB option.

    • Whiskerz
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A little bit left field, but I like it...

      Pope . 4.0
      TAA . Aurier . Vinagre. Taylor 4.0
      Salah. KDB . Greenwood . Foden. 4.5
      Werner. Jiminez . 4.5

      Wish I could just find that .5 to turn aurier into doherty.

      1. Laalman
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Downgrade pope to fund Doherty

    • Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Seen a few teams with vinagre in them. Will he start for Wolves?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, Jonny is injured.

        1. Forever In Our Shadow
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Aha.

      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Needs more salt

        1. Forever In Our Shadow
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          😉

      3. Z
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Otto is injured so he is nailed at start....and for that walue- great choice

    • xHaTr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Early Thoughts?

      Ryan
      Vinagre TAA Taylor
      Bruno KDB Salah Saint-Maximin Greenwood
      Antonio Jimenez

      Button Walker-Peters Ferguson Davis