The Promoted

Bryan pricey at £5.0m but Rodak may rack up the save points in Fulham defence

Having provided the lowdown on Fulham manager Scott Parker, our series on the newly-promoted Premier League sides continues with this look at the Cottagers’ defence.

We will discuss the west London side’s midfielders and forwards in our final piece.

In this article, we will assess Fulham’s overall clean sheet chances and then present a player-by-player rundown of their backline.

With the likes of Charlie Taylor, Ruben Vinagre and Luke Ayling all available for £4.5m, the Cottagers’ defenders will have a tough task in convincing us of their worth.

Their shot-stopping goalkeeper may be a save point-magnet in 2020/21, however.

We’ve again roped in the help of Brandon Kelley, Fantasy Football Scout frequenter, co-host of the Always Cheating podcast and a New York-based Fulham supporter, for this feature.


WHAT IS FULHAM’S CLEAN SHEET POTENTIAL?

Fulham only had the fourth-best defensive record in the Championship last season, having conceded 48 goals in 46 matches.

The Cottagers kept 17 clean sheets in 2019/20, five fewer than champions Leeds United (22) but three more than runners-up West Bromwich Albion (14).

It’s always a promising sign for FPL if a newly promoted side looks defensively solid in home games but, rather concerningly, Parker’s troops conceded more goals on their own soil (26) than eight other Championship clubs last season.

Overall, they were ranked sixth for fewest expected goals conceded and fewest shots conceded per match.

Their two goalkeepers, more on which in the next section, were kept busier than Leeds and West Brom’s custodians, making 118 saves between them.

The Cottagers’ league record was as follows:


PWDLFAGDPTSCS
Total462312116448+168117
Home2315264026+144710
Away2381052422+2347

CS = Clean sheets


As was the case with West Brom, Fulham tightened up in the second half of 2019/20.

Just six of their shut-outs arrived in the first 23 ‘Gameweeks’ of the Championship campaign, with the other 11 arriving thereafter.

It was perhaps no coincidence, with centre-back Michael Hector (£4.5m) arriving in the January transfer window and having a transformative effect on the Fulham backline.

The Cottagers kept ten clean sheets in the 20 games that Hector started, conceding on just 17 occasions.

Brandon Kelley told us:

Fulham’s 2018–19 squad were whipping boys and they had one of the worst defences that the Premier League has seen in recent memory. It wasn’t helped by a constant goalkeeper rotation, an injury to new signing Alfie Mawson, and needing to bed in two full-back replacements for both Ryan Fredericks and Matt Targett – both of whom were immense in Fulham’s previous push to promotion.

Some of Fulham’s defensive issues have since been fixed, notably the emergence of Marek Rodak and Michael Hector’s signing from Sheffield Wednesday. Hector has an imperious stature and eye for a tackle that reminds me (sorry, but I’m going there) of Virgil van Dijk and his solid play has almost certainly brought some of the confidence back that Tim Ream had lost during his last Premier League campaign.

Our Fulham correspondent also hailed the influence of loanee Harrison Reed (£4.5m), who remains a Southampton player at the time of writing but who did a commendable job as a defensive midfielder in the English second tier last season:

It’s also worth noting that Harrison Reed, who was on loan from Southampton last season, shielded Fulham’s defence incredibly well. If Parker is able to work a permanent deal and keep Reed in his midfield, then I’d genuinely be eyeing a Fulham goalkeeper or defender at £4.5m.

PLAYER BY PLAYER

*Figures given below are for the regulation Championship season only and exclude the three play-off matches

MAREK RODAK

Goalkeeper

Starts: 33 | Clean sheets: 13

Marcus Bettinelli (£4.5m) had started the season between the posts for Fulham but was deposed after just 12 games, with Marek Rodak (£4.5m) remaining as Parker’s first-choice goalkeeper for the rest of the season.

Rodak, who had spent the previous two years on loan at Rotherham United, impressed upon his promotion to the starting XI, going on to register 13 clean sheets in 33 starts (he was sent off early on in the 0-0 draw with Middlesbrough in October, so we won’t count that).

While clean sheets might be a significant concern for Fulham based on what we have discussed above, Rodak looks a good bet for save points in FPL next season.

Just four first-team regulars in the Championship made more saves per match than the 23-year-old Slovak (2.9), a figure that will no doubt rise with more potent attacks to come up against in 2020/21.

His save percentage of 76.9% was also the best in the English second tier, while he also significantly outperformed his expected goals conceded tally.

Our Fulham expert, Brandon Kelley, talked up the young shot-stopper’s prospects:

Perhaps the best bet for straightforward FPL returns will be goalkeeper Marek Rodak, who has proven to be a decent shot-stopper. With Nick Pope confirmed at £5.5m, many FPL managers will be looking for a new cheap goalkeeper and I wonder if Rodak’s first season in the Premier League might be reminiscent of the early days of Lukasz Fabianski (whose middle name just happens to be… Marek!).

JOE BRYAN

Left-back

Starts: 39 | Substitute Appearances: 4 | Goals: 1 | Assists: 7

Joe Bryan‘s (£5.0m) brace in the play-off final may have sealed his fate in Fantasy Premier League, with the powers-that-be subsequently opting to make him the most expensive Fulham defender in the game and hand him a £5.0m starting price.

The left-back had scored only one goal in the regular season, finding the back of the net against Wigan Athletic with an effort from just inside the Latics’ box.

While he did register more shots (38) than any other Fulham defender, his minutes-per-chance average (89.9) wasn’t even the best of the Cottagers’ backline and he had just one ‘big chance’ all season.

He had also taken only one direct free-kick before his heroics at Wembley.

It was Bryan’s assist potential that really stood out, with the 26-year-old full-back setting up seven goals in all – six of which were for Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.0m).

Firing over more crosses from open play than any other Fulham player, Bryan was also second in line behind Anthony Knockaert (£5.5m) at corner-kick situations.

A minutes-per-chance-created average of 69.7 was the best of the west London side’s defensive assets.

A word of caution, though.

Bryan’s previous full campaign in the Championship, with Bristol City in 2017/18, saw him score on five occasions and set up a further three goals.

Again priced up by FPL as a £5.0m defender in 2018/19 off the back of those exploits, he registered just one attacking return – an assist – in 2,344 minutes of Premier League football.

Always Cheating’s Brandon Kelley also urged caution, saying:

Joe Bryan took all of the headlines for his play-off final heroics, and he does look much improved since one year ago, but don’t be fooled: Bryan won’t be scoring many free kicks in the Premier League, especially if Neeskens Kebano is on the pitch. 

DENIS ODOI

Right-back

Starts: 30 | Substitute Appearances: 4 | Goals: 0 | Assists: 1

Denis Odoi made more appearances at right-back than any other Fulham player last season but few Fantasy managers will be going near the 32-year-old Belgian if he stays in west London.

Odoi was mostly a regular pick when he was available (seven of his no-shows were enforced through injury or suspension) but there was the occasional benching, most notably in the play-off double-header against Cardiff City.

The step up in class next season might be in Odoi’s favour if he signs a new deal (his contract expires this summer), with the Belgian a more defensive-minded option than Cyrus Christie (£4.5m) at right-back and a nice counterbalance to the offensive Joe Bryan on the other flank.

Odoi offers little for FPL managers to get excited about, however, with his minutes-per-chance-created average at a poor 185.8 and his last goal coming back in 2017/18.

CYRUS CHRISTIE

Right-back

Starts: 13 | Substitute Appearances: 11 | Goals: 1 | Assists: 1

Cyrus Christie (£4.5m) is a more attacking option than Odoi at right-back.

Christie’s rates of goal attempts (one every 79.5 minutes), shots in the box (one every 130.1 minutes) and efforts on target (one every 286.2 minutes) were the best of the Fulham backline but, given that he has failed to score more than one goal in each of his last seven seasons, this is no Matt Doherty we’re talking about and some context has to be provided.

Bryan bettered him for key passes, meanwhile.

Just 13 Championship starts (plus two in the play-offs) highlights the lack of security and even if Odoi leaves, Parker will surely look to reinforce his options at right-back.

TIM REAM

Centre-back

Starts: 44 | Goals: 0 | Assists: 0

In our previous analysis of Parker, we mentioned his fondness for a conservative passing game.

That begins at the back, with the three leading Championship players for passes per match in 2019/20 all being Fulham centre-halves.

Top of that list is Tim Ream (£4.5m), whose total of 3,148 passes was the highest in the English second tier last season.

His pass completion rate of 89.3% was also the best of Fulham’s defenders in 2019/20, which will aid Ream’s cause in picking up bonus points on the occasions that the Cottagers keep clean sheets.

That’s about all that Ream offers, however.

The USA international, who has scored on just three occasions in his professional career, presents next to no goal threat and had just two shots in the whole of 2019/20.

The 32-year-old centre-half only created a chance every 395.1 minutes, meanwhile.

A sizeable section of the Fulham support would like to see an upgrade on Ream as the left-sided centre-back next year but after 44 league starts under Parker last season and limited time to dip into the transfer market, the American could still be a starter heading into 2020/21.

MICHAEL HECTOR

Centre-back

Starts: 20 | Goals: 0 | Assists: 2

As we discussed earlier in the article, Michael Hector‘s (£4.5m) capture from Chelsea had an instant impact on Fulham’s defence.

The Cottagers kept clean sheets in the first three of Hector’s starts and looked much more solid from his debut onwards, with the Jamaica international dubbed ‘Virgil van Mike’ by the Fulham faithful for his dominant displays.

Brandon Kelley said of the centre-back:

Parker has talked a great deal about stabilising the club, which will surely entail a greater focus on defensive organisation. Michael Hector transformed the Fulham backline when he was signed last season and he’ll be heavily involved in tackles, blocks and clearances – all BPS-worthy actions.

It’s worth taking a closer look at those baseline bonus point-earning figures:


PlayerMinutes per clearance, block and interception (CBI)Minutes per recovery
Hector14.414.8
Mawson15.417.0
Odoi18.415.3
Christie19.124.3
Ream20.816.2
Bryan23.917.5

Add Hector’s impressive defensive contributions to those passing figures we mentioned when discussing Ream earlier – Hector was ranked third among all Championship players for passes per game – and he should be well-reflected on the Bonus Points System.

Whether Fulham are good enough to keep more than a handful of clean sheets and get him in the mix for bonus points on a regular basis is debatable, however.

For someone so good in the air, Hector doesn’t score too many goals and he managed only six attempts in his 20 Fulham appearances.

Keep an eye out for his ‘Hollywood’ passes, though: two of his raking long balls led to assists against Huddersfield Town and Sheffield Wednesday.

ALFIE MAWSON

Centre-back

Starts: 25 | Substitute Appearances: 2 |Goals: 0 | Assists: 0

FPL managers may remember Alfie Mawson’s (£4.5m) goalscoring exploits from his time at Swansea City, with the budget defender scoring four goals from centre-back in 2016/17.

He indeed had more shots (12) than Ream and Fulham-era Hector put together last season, although his minutes-per-chance average of 183 was still unremarkable.

Mawson was the fall guy when Hector arrived, losing his place and then failing to regain it after a spell on the sidelines with a knee injury.

The Hector-Mawson partnership is one that Parker hasn’t tried outside of the FA Cup and it is a possibility next season if no other bodies arrive, with Mawson more at home in Ream’s role on the left-hand side of defence.

THE REST

Marcus Bettinelli (£4.5m) started out 2019/20 as Fulham’s first-choice goalkeeper but lost his place after 12 matches, returning only briefly when Rodak was dismissed and subsequently suspended in the autumn.

It remains to be seen if returning loanee Fabri (£4.0m) features in Parker’s plans in the Premier League and a place among the substitutes looks to be about the best that Bettinelli can hope for come Gameweek 1.

Maxime Le Marchand (£4.5m) started only three games all season, deputising for Bryan at left-back on two occasions.

The Frenchman was also thrown on as a substitute in nine fixtures, often as an additional centre-half as Fulham tried to close down a match.

Steven Sessegnon (£4.5m) saw a bit more game-time than Le Marchand but eight of his nine Championship starts came in the first two months of the campaign, with the youngster initially having been drafted in to cover for the injured Odoi at right-back.

He was mostly a substitute for the remainder of the season and, barring an injury crisis, he’ll likely be well down the pecking order when football resumes in September.


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1,136 Comments Post a Comment
  1. PepSala
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How's it looking lads

    Pope 4.0
    Gomez pieters Vinagre KWP Lamptey
    KDB Salah Ziyech Bruno Soucek/Dendo
    Antonio Werner Davis

    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      You know what you’re missing. I like Pope but the rest of the defence lacks focus

    2. Squib
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I am toying with the no TAA team. Dangerous territory. Looks good but with such high ownership and potential for hauls at his price it is a big risk.
      I am thinking no LIV attackers to begin...

      1. Citizenkane91
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        The more I look at it the more it appeals to me. Using calue AS metric Robertson should be on par, Doherty and Vinagre above and if CHE sort their keeper situation, both Alonso and Reece look under priced.

        1. Citizenkane91
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          value in this case = non-appearance points per game / price

    3. Citizenkane91
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno to Rashford, Pope to Mccarthy, Gomez to VVD?

      Pieters to Taylor if you need the assurance of starts.

  2. OldBenKenobi
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Seeing more and more teams with Gordon as their 4.5 bench midfielder?

    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      People think could breakthrough season

    2. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Becauz there's no one better at 4.5

    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Who's spot would he take?

  3. Citizenkane91
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I used Tim Bayer's value model to come up with this lineup:

    Mccarthy (Nyland)
    Doherty Reece Vinagre (Lamptey, Dallas)
    Mahrez Salah Ziyech (*Pulisic) Foden (Soucek)
    Jesus Werner Antonio

    1.5 mil. itb for Aguero, Rashford, Alonso, Son, Robertson in particular.

    1. Citizenkane91
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Much depdends on the Kepa/Chelsea transfer saga ofc.

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Personally, I’d ditch the model, if that’s what it tells me

    3. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      "... I used Tim Bayer's value model ...". How exactly? Curious.

    4. Easy Cheesy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      What model is this? Do you have a link?

  4. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    damn I shouldn't look at TSB...so tempting to go Mane Sterling Son Mahrez Aguero for a few weeks before an early wildcard

  5. Shark Team
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    The differences between experts, very good and good FPL managers will be bigger than usual this season...

    1. Citizenkane91
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think a particularly good strategy' this year is to pick price rise meteors,
      players you expect others Will want, even if you don't think they are the best picks in the medium to long term. The idea being that you Will be aggressive in the price change transfer market. By GW 10 you should have a differential TV at the cost of a few hits, and a team so unusually template-y that in itself becomes a source of differentiation.

      1. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It never works out. Eventually bargains come out of hiding every year

        1. fish&chips
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          This. People say this every year and gradually drop off the message boards my December

          1. Citizenkane91
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yes, but there's a difference this year with the reclassification of some huge names. The 3-5-2 structure is not working AS well AS earlier.

  6. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy
    TAA, Taylor, Vinagre, Williams
    Salah. KDB. Fernandes, Soucek
    Martial, Werner,

    Sub: Nyland, Bernando, Stephens, Davies

    Any improvements?

    1. Citizenkane91
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I like it except for Bernardo and Stephens (Gordon a netter 4.5) Fernandez to Mahrez/Ziyech, Martial to Aguero/Jesus is one idea.

      Another team, more in line with your Manu backing, could be Fernandez to Rashford, Bernardo to Greenwood, Martial to Aguero; or, Bernardo (is he 7 or 7.5?) to Rashford, Martial to Adams/Antonio.

      1. The Polymath
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks

  7. disarrays11
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hardly seeing Kane in any teams here.
    Often see Bruno.

    Love the guy but aat same price Kane > Bruno right?

    Kane will always play 90 mins, also on penalties, won't have to start season in August..

    Or am I missing something.

    1. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Effective Ownership probably

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      You buy premium players for attacking threat not minutes played. United score more goals and Fernandes gets more points as a mid.

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Agree with this

    3. JURGENAUT
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      This is what I was thinking too

  8. Warby84
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Sterling or Aubameyang? (Salah Son my other 2 big mdf)

    1. Jay Jay Okocha
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Hopefully fixtures will solve the problem

    2. The Mighty Hippo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Auba. Take his points from last season, add an extra point for each goal and an additional point for each clean sheet.

      1. Tony Moon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        And minus a few bonus points = 230 points last season.

    3. disarrays11
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Toss a coin.

      I'd say Auba just for not having pep roulette stress.

      If lacazette leaves obviously Auba.

  9. Somar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    So United and City will miss the opening weekend ??

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12426258/man-utd-city-premier-league-fixtures-opening-weekend/

    1. disarrays11
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yep, there'll be a lot of wildcards post GW1

    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      We should be allowed to play Free Hit in GW1

    3. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      This is a Sun article of guesswork which references two other articles of guesswork

      Here's a better guesser: https://twitter.com/BenCrellin/status/1295105186365616131?s=20

  10. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    😆
    4.5 (4.0)
    TAA Robbo VVD Ferguson (Mitchell)
    Sterling KDB Greenwood (4.5 4.5)
    Aguero Wood Adams

    1. Rojo's Modern Life
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Triple Liv Def is suboptimal. They were leaking goals regularly

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        this won't be my team, but that's not to say I don't disagree with you

  11. Somar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I wonder what the pay is like here at FFS. If they need a full-time web developer, they must be paying well

  12. Budgies
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on a triple Liverpool back line and keeping them in all season? I added all their combined points up from last 2 seasons and divided it 76 and their combined average works out at 15.4pts per game!

    I tried tinkering with different teams and have come up with these:

    Pope
    Robo, TAA, VVd
    Ziyech, Kdb, Bruno, S Maximin, Soucek
    Werner, Mitrovic

    Button, KWP, Vinagre, Davis

    What is best:
    A) Ziyech, KDB, Bruno
    B) Aub, Mahrez, Rash

    Appreciate would have to tiker on defence when Pool miss a gameweek, but i weirdly like the idea

    1. SAY MY NAME
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      similar thoughts and initial team, but will probably bottle it to bring in Salah instead of the triple defence, definitely double Pool defence though

    2. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nope, you miss out on Salah/Mane points then, which would give you a better ppg.

  13. Top Punts
    The Mighty Hippo
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which players are you taking a punt on this year, either because you have a feeling they will break out and do well, or because they are a new addition to the league who's grabbed your attention? For me it's Tierney and Ziyech.

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      There's a 5.5m space so I don't mind going with a punt like Klich or Macallister.

      1. The Mighty Hippo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I was aware of Klich coming up with Leeds, who will likely be on penalties for them, but I must admit that I don't know much about MacAllister, is he likely to feature as a starter for Brighton this season?

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I hope so. Potter is a bit of a rotation geek though. Looks a decent player, I think he would do well if given minutes.

          1. Ze_Austin
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            "If given minutes" isn't a thing with Potter. Looks like a young manager trying his darn best to be a new Pep, rotating without any basis on form or fitness or finding a working system. I always notice patterns anywhere I am, and I checked for patterns in every team throughout the season, but there was no pattern to Potter

            None

            It's horrifying

    2. davidtbo
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Werner

    3. joelsprylar
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Trossard can be good.

      Almiron maybe?

      Naby Keita if Liverpool don't buy Thiago.

      One of them i think is gonna be my fourth midfielder.

    4. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Tierney is the one I’m most interested in. Only problem is that price point with so much apparent value at 4.5

      Might “punt” on Mahrez. Scarcely an unknown quantity but no one else much is looking in that direction.

    5. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ziyech and Mahrez almost certainly in. Mahrez to Pulisic if that fails

      Tierney if Arsenal finds their defensive feet. They've shown that they can

    6. Goonsquad245
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Does Werner count here? Guess he's a punt as he's new to the league and could flop...

      1. The Mighty Hippo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I must admit that I didn't really consider Werner as a punt when I initially posted, since everything about him seems to suggest he'll hit the ground running in the PL. However, it's fair to say that we've seen many others who've flopped after coming into the league with a big reputation, so I think he absolutely qualifies as a punt in this context.

        1. Geoff
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Agree with this, and agree he could be a great pick

          1. Fit of Pique
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Me too. He's my punt

    7. lugs
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      i currently have Emile Smith-Rowe as my 4.5mil bench fodder, in the hope that he will fill the Ozil sized hole in the Arsenal team, he's sure to play some part this season as a CAM as he's 20 now and very talented and apparently did very well on loan at Huddersfield this year

    8. Citizenkane91
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Doherty, Reece, no TAA in defense.

      Mahrez Foden Aguero Ziyech rather than Sterling/KdB/ 4.5 mid /Adams/Wood

      Auba and Salah over Mane (not trying to hedge bets versus TAA).

    9. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Werner, Armstrong and Lloris. Ziyech too if I can find the funds.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        The 'punt' I'm currently risking is Phil Foden.

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Might have his place threatened by that Messi guy

          1. Tinkermania
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Too old!

    10. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I will definitely own Aurier at some point this season. Armstrong appeals strongly to me as well.

    11. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Instead of focusing on players i guess my punt this upcoming season would be going 4atb. Let's see how fixtures are panned. But I'm very interested in it.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Should work very well. There's a whole host of decent 4.5 defenders so making fixture-based rotations ought to be easy.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Availability of those 4.5 is what making me think twice going big at the back too though 😀
          Taa +4*4.5 can work out too but 3 atb !

          That would allow 3 big hitters.
          Big defense allows 2 at max.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            That should work extremely well.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Which one ??

              1. Andy_Social
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                TAA, 3x4.5, even a 4m fodder.

                1. Amey
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Yeah.
                  IF we get a 4.0m enabler switching to that is very very easy.
                  Whatever the case maybe I'm trying to have only 2 sub 8m attackers. Let's see !

    12. The Red Devil
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Che Adams, obviously won't be close to ings, but should get decent amount of points for his price

    13. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I was thinking of going with Tierney but Bellerin and Saliba at cheaper price points have put me off now. I guess my puntier picks are currently Foden and Werner though I do have an eye on James Ward-Prowse at £6m, he played every minute for an improving Southampton last season, his ICT stats are great, he’s on set pieces and currently at just 2.4% ownership, so there’s lots to like.

    14. SweepaKeepa
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Some little known Argentinian... goes by the name of Aguero.

    15. Fit of Pique
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Hardly a punt, but double Liverpool defence with Robertson

      After hearing Luke's point about everyone having TAA, so where do you get an advantage out of the Liverpool defence?

      At 7.0m feels like a great use of budget that would otherwise be used on a punty midfielder

    16. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood looks very favourably priced & positioned

      I'd say he's locked into my XI as long as nothing bad/good happens in the transfer window involving his RWF slot

      1. Gregor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        They will surely be bringing someone in, might be towards the end of the window though.

      2. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Is Greenwood a punt? I thought everyone would have him at 7.5

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Probably still not yet in the “established” category due to having started less than 15 league games in his entire career

          1. Flair
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Wow, good point. Feels like a much more experienced player!

    17. Alfies leg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I think Mitrovic at 6.0 could be worth a punt.

    18. Dybala10
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Currently ASM and Dallas are the only two I would say are fairly punty.

    19. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      The Werner 'punt' is currently being punted by 1 in every 3 teams!

    20. ENZO SZN™
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Teemu Werner 20G + 5A for £8.5m

      1. Gregor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        £9.5m.

      2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Jimmy & Ings hit those numbers for 8.5

        Think Werner needs to go a touch higher again at 9.5

        Of course timing is important too - if he did all that scoring this side of Christmas for example - then he’s going to be pretty valuable for the first few months & pretty disappointing for the last few etc

        But overall think he needs to do more than that at 9.5 given Ings & Jimmy’s levels

        1. ritzyd
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Pretty confident ings regresses this season

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Think Ings outscores Jimi, IF he stays fit

            • Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              He possibly could - or maybe he’ll do even better if southampton keep improving under Ralphie

              But even if Ings does regress or get injured - remember there’s still Jimmy hitting those 25 returns type levels for 8.5 too

      3. FPL_BallX
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Reece is value for days, should Lampard continue with his wing back approach. A full million cheaper than Dave and averaging a shot on goal every 84 mins for a top 6 side

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Keeper and CD issues before I consider a Chelsea defender.

      4. Cak Juris
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Harry Kane

    21. Klopp's Kids
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Pick two!

      1) Doherty
      2) Adams
      3) Mitrovic

      1. Budgies
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        1 & 3

      2. The Mighty Hippo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        1 and 3

      3. SAY MY NAME
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        1 and 3

      4. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        1 and 2

        Think Doherty is the second most exciting defender in the game and is underpriced. Argument for Mitro of course but think Adams has much better players around him and is good enough to benefit.

        1. Aztec Kamara
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          But how many games will he play? Seemed to be playing 1 in 2 or even 3 at the end of the season.

        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          1 and 3. I'm assuming Mitro will get all of Fulham's (few) goals whereas Adams picks up Ings' sloppy seconds.

      5. Ze_Austin
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Doherty: points
        .......

        Mitrovic: minutes +/- points
        Adams: points if he starts all games, which isn't what Ralph does with him, but you might hit gold there if it happens

      6. Goodison Gladiators
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        1

        Don't get the others

    22. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      How much are people treating next season as a completely new entity and how much weight is being given to end of season form?

      Seems to me we’re in new territory here. The break between next season and last is uniquely short. Arguable that there’ll be a greater carry over from last season into this than normal?

      The really form premium from end of last season is getting almost no interest. Less than 10% ownership. Feels odd.

      1. Netley Lucas
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm viewing Liverpool differently from their drunken end. Fresh start, let em ignore Mo, be a nice differential.

        1. Cok3y5murf
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Salah a differential? I've seen him in almost every RMT.

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            25% owned at the moment, sensational stuff.

            Hopefully wont rise either, the masses will flock to KDB and Bruno, and those that go with 3 premiums will be split between Salah and new shiny midfield Auba.

            1. Cok3y5murf
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Not being as template as KDB and Bruno doesn't make him a differential. 25% is never a differential. Like I said, almost every RMT here has Salah in it, and there are a lot of good players here. The masses consist of a lot of casuals.

              1. Goonsquad245
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                It's a differential compared to his usual 40-50% at the start of the season. If you cap him GW1 it's amplified too.

              2. Ze_Austin
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Also, GW1 ownership usually has a lot to do with total points people can see there as they're picking teams, the players people owned who were doing well towards the end of the season (nostalgia picks, but this doesn't necessarily make them bad, except guys like Lund)... And the Man U fanbase - well, other fanbases too

                Auto-pick deserves a mention, as well as topscorers from the Championship and the extreme budget guys with any sliver of a chance of being the new Lund

                Kane finished the season remarkably but is being boycotted by the masses due to his presence far below Ings and Jimenez on the table, for example. Vardy didn't finish so well but is the topscorer among forwards, yet is being boycotted as well... Again due to those 8.5s with high points

                Mids have a lot to do with end-season flourish, but Grealish still makes it to 13% ownership because he's the highest-scoring 7.0m mid

                It's a blend of "casual" and "serious" picks I can see at the moment, with serious picks having quite the ownership advantage. Maybe because we still have under 1M players in the game, and those who've already picked teams are more likely to be attention-paying addicts? Maybe...

                Shock factor: Pulisic is currently owned by 8.7%: Sterling by 8.3% :/

                1. Goonsquad245
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Yep - the masses will flock to KDB (top of the points charts) and Bruno (MUN darling). Obviously both good picks, but will have massive ownership GW1 regardless.

                2. Cok3y5murf
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Sterling's ownership is affected by KDB's just like Mane's ownership is affected by Salah's. Plus he would've lost a few owners after that open goal he just missed.

      2. The Mighty Hippo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        It's certainly an unusual start to a new season. I think we do have to look at end of season form for some teams, especially regarding their reaction to playing in empty stadiums with the potential of home advantage being reduced for some teams who typically had a partisan home support. We should also probably disregard the sluggish performances of Liverpool in the latter part of the season, since they essentially had the league sown up by that point.

        We may actually see some teams start the season a bit jaded and sluggish (City and United spring to mind following their European competition disappointments). We witnessed similar responses from the teams who had Europa Cup duties in recent seasons (Wolves, Burnley etc.) which resulted in them having a reduced summer break in comparison to others in the league.

        1. Ze_Austin
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Excellently put, thanks

    23. Chris Maudsley
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      OK, here goes for another season:

      First Draft:

      Ryan - Nyland

      TAA - KWP - Taylor - Dallas - Ferguson

      Salah - KDB - Auba - Bruno - Stephens

      Mitro - Bamford - Davis

      Accept that the forward line is light, but I think it's worth the risk.

      Any thoughts on this guys?

      1. Netley Lucas
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Button-up Ryan. You've 5 good players, try to get 7.

      2. davidtbo
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        4-4-2 ?
        Yeah, you just need to take a -4 to get Warner, Kane or Auguero when they start to be on fire

        1. Chris Maudsley
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          But to get one of those, who would I take out?

    24. xHaTr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Like this current draft, any thoughts?

      Ryan
      TAA Vinagre Taylor
      Bruno Soucek Salah Greenwood KDB
      Werner Mitrovic

      Button Walker-Peters Ferguson Davis

      1. Stimps
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        So Greenwood, KDB, Bruno on your bench for GW1?

    25. Champions League Varane
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      So.. we go Manchesterless for the first week and maybe even second and then pull our wildcards “early”?

      This is considering they won’t be playing gameweek 1.

      1. xHaTr
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Wildcard too valuable, pick KDB and one United and bench them for a week

    26. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      The way i read it is that you won't get into trouble for entering a money league but if you are the organizer of such a league then you may be in trouble.

      Anyone here familiar with the TV series The Wire will remember Bunny Covlin's speech where he introduced the concept of the "paper bag" to his underlings.I think fpl managers interested in joining or entering such arrangements need a "paper bag" right now so both managers and fpl can go on together during this civic dilemma.

      So from now on the bag man/women needs to me someone that does not play fpl so they cant be kicked from the game.The in game league admin in this way will have noting to do with any transactions and be in the clear technically if i'm not mistaken?

      Maybe it might be wise for such league organizers to hand the control to a trusted wife,partner,brother,sister,cousin 😉 😉 nudge nudge.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Me personally, I see absolutely no issue with cash leagues so I'm surprised FPL have taken this decision. Are they now going to close down patreons too? Where do they stop?

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          they should close patreons.

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yep. Nothing against those doing it, but the game is free.

        2. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Any such leagues that i know of are very gentlemanly affairs and i would hate to think that the managers that go to all that trouble of organizing them could get the chop for some reason.When you enter such arrangements there is always an element of risk involved and you just have to live with that.

      2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Lot of fuss about nothing . They have had this rule many years i was shown just the other day. Nothing new , just re-worded . Just covers them

        1. Ze_Austin
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Exactly. Gives them legal immunity from lawsuits if a player gets scammed by a money league they entered. The same FPL which hasn't had the funds to upgrade their site's servers or diligence to find out that Saliba is expected to be nailed... Wouldn't have the time nor diligence to investigate every potential money league they find. It's there as a placeholder in case they ever need to bring it up, just like that their "We have every right to do anything we want" rule they brought up when handling racism, which I'm fine with any way

          The reaction to their rewording is understandable, but a bit... Overstated? You'll be fine with your money leagues except if a scandal happens, like someone reporting you if you win the game or they feel hard done by, and all that. This is more of an issue for the influencers than the many of us who just consume content and have fun with all this tinkering stress

          1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Spot on. It is kind of like multi teams. They aint going to search for them as it brings the numbers but if somone proves it to them they have to be shown to act. Ending cash leagues would mean they lose a lot of their audience who would go over to sky or fan team . Not good for business

    27. Klopp's Kids
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Son overlooked at 9M? Or not much faith in Spurs under Mourinho?

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Good value - problem of early Europa putting me off

      2. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        probably be in quite a few teams if they have a nice start

      3. FPL Theorist
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        People seem to prefer the cheaper Ziyech or Greenwood.

      4. The Mighty Hippo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        He's a solid pick and has been overlooked in a lot of drafts so far. I'd expect to see him feature a lot more once the fixtures are announced (especially if Utd. and City miss GW1).

      5. UnitedFan
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        A few might be tempted if they have good fixtures.

    28. FPL_Gyarados
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Hi, I'm making a 10 team H2H league with two knockout rounds if anyone would like to join.
      Just 1 spot left!

      Code is: 6euh7k
      Thank you

    29. Man Chest Hair United
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Feedback on this draft?

      Ryan
      Taa Vinagre Taylor
      Salah KDB Bruno Greenwood Soucek
      Werner Adams

      Button KWP Ferguson Wickham

      Not too fussed about the weak bench at least one solid playing reserve

    30. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      and here it is, the Soton-heavy GW1-2/3 differential XI(plus TAA) 😆

      McCarthy (4.0)
      TAA Vinagre Ferguson (Mitchell Williams)
      Mane Sterling Son Mahrez Armstrong
      Aguero Adams (4.5)

    31. Stimps
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Still waiting on fixtures, but thoughts?

      Mccarthy
      TAA Taylor Vinagre
      Salah Auba Ziyech Saint-Max
      Werner Ings Mitrovic

      4.0 Soucek KWP Douglas

    32. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Why would Chelsea and Wolves not get GW1 off also?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Comfortably 30+ days rest. They're trying their luck while they can.

    33. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If Manchester blanks, looks easy enough if you've planned for Kev/Raz, Tony & Greeny. Kev & Tony to Aubs/Mane & Jim/Ings and bench Greeny. Then either take a hit to reverse or do it over 2 & 3, no obvious need to WC in 2 unless it's a Manc derby DGW, may as well play the single in the 1st midweek if they're thinking that soon.

    34. jimmy.floyd
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A Ayling
      B Dallas

      1 Taylor
      2 Bardsley

    35. FreddyP3
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Pope
      TAA Robbo Egan Taylor
      Salah Rashford Mahrez Ziyech
      Jimenez Antonio

      A crap bench and 0.5itb

      What yall say? I made the mistake last season of going double pool def and it was so fun so thought I should do it again 🙂

      1. FreddyP3
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Oops Taylor was supposed to be Vinagre

      2. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Looks pretty good considering the fairly heavy backline.

        Got to think the bench must be struggling, but as long as you have one player definitely getting minutes to come on if needs be could be good

        Like the Ziyech pick, cant quite squeeze him into my side

        1. FreddyP3
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I was really surprise to see Z at 8.0, expected him at least a million more. So he was one of the first names in the team

          Thanks for the feedback. Havent done much scouting on the cheap bench options, hope some bargains will emerge when pre season matches begin

    36. SpaceCadet
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Better option?

      A. Ings greenwood
      B. Werner traore

      1. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        A

      2. jimmy.floyd
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        A

      3. Sanchit
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        B

    37. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Early, early days but looking at this at the moment.

      McCarthy
      TAA - Taylor - Vinagre - Lamptey
      KDB - Auba - Salah
      Jimi - Antonio - DCL

      Nylaand - Romeu - Stevens - Bernado

      Tough tough year to pick with so many good big budget players to choose from. Any thoughts on the side so far?